1h shield build

[Laufknoten]

Xant you noob.

I can confirm that Varyag WAS legendary. Back in the day there were only 2 heroes, Oberyn and Varyag. Both of them aboozed OP weapons to the max xD and had much higher levels and more money than the rest of us.

Varyag with his huscarl and 103(?) speed elite scimi with ghost range was impossible to block.. (for me)  He and Oberyn just dominated the servers for weeks on end.

Of course most people could not block properly back then, feints was the most advanced dueling trick, you could use a great axe in 1h mode from a horse, archers could become ridiculously deadly etc.. Was good times.

Yeah, Oberyn was quite an overlord. When he was on the server I was like "OMG, Oberyn is here  ", imagine it with a girlie voice. He's also one of the few guys I can remember from my first playing sessions about a year ago.

[Karmazyn]

If you want be the best, get many kills then 1h shield is not easy because the shield doesn’t really protect you more it slow you down, you need too many hits (if you not exploit steel pick build) so enemy even if he sucks will often run away before you can kill him or a team mate kill him before you, I’m speaking about strategus. Ofc. you can be level 30-33 and slash players under level 30 on siege server and be there the best... About duel server its not easy to say because of all the camels, cybers... auto blockers, they are banned now but you can never know is the guy really blocking good like a machine or does he use a machine.

[Bobthehero]

Xant you noob.

I can confirm that Varyag WAS legendary. Back in the day there were only 2 heroes, Oberyn and Varyag. Both of them aboozed OP weapons to the max xD and had much higher levels and more money than the rest of us.

Varyag with his huscarl and 103(?) speed elite scimi with ghost range was impossible to block.. (for me)  He and Oberyn just dominated the servers for weeks on end.

Of course most people could not block properly back then, feints was the most advanced dueling trick, you could use a great axe in 1h mode from a horse, archers could become ridiculously deadly etc.. Was good times.

And weight didnt affect your wpf, good times indeed, I wonder how my current build would have faired...

[Xant]

Xant you noob.

I can confirm that Varyag WAS legendary. Back in the day there were only 2 heroes, Oberyn and Varyag. Both of them aboozed OP weapons to the max xD and had much higher levels and more money than the rest of us.

Varyag with his huscarl and 103(?) speed elite scimi with ghost range was impossible to block.. (for me)  He and Oberyn just dominated the servers for weeks on end.

Of course most people could not block properly back then, feints was the most advanced dueling trick, you could use a great axe in 1h mode from a horse, archers could become ridiculously deadly etc.. Was good times.

I was talking post-big patch, of course. Before that shit was crazy, dawg.

[Corrado_Decimo]

And weight didnt affect your wpf, good times indeed, I wonder how my current build would have faired...

well you should take in account that AGI was a lot more useful (for swing speed bonus)and weapon master 8 meant 190-200 wpf.

good times... now is STR build galore.

[Bobthehero]

I was doing relatively well with a 24/12 shielder build back then 

[Corrado_Decimo]

I was doing relatively well with a 24/12 shielder build back then 

well me too with a 33/15 

phazh was lighting fast.. pompom was even faster. you could barely see the scimitar animation.

[MrShine]

Also remember that against good 2h player or in 1 vs 2 pole you'll loose in 90% of cases.

I can see the 1 v 2 argument against competent players (really against equally skilled players you should rarely be able to pull out 2v1s anyways) but I still don't get the "you'll lose against good 2 handers all the time" argument.  Why?  How? What exactly do these good 2 handers have over a good shielder?

Again range I get: 2 hand will get the first hit (which should be blocked).  If the 2-hander can effectively use the range advantage shielder will lose, but as a shielder pressuring the 2-hander by getting close and using good footwork you will get a whole lot of "free blocks" while the 2 hander will have to manual block all of those that you get for "free".  If the shield breaks then the 2-hander will have the ability to weapon stun and all that, but unless it's a shield breaking weapon that probably won't happy in a single duel.

I don't think it's an issue of me not playing against "good 2-handers" that brings me to this conclusion because I've played against lots of different players in battle.  I also play a heavier strength shield build with 24/12 or 21/15, so maybe that helps curb the damage difference between me and the 2 hander.

[Bobthehero]

Its because either the good 2 hander will be able to block your hits, until he breaks your shield or he simply needs less hits to kill you, (obviously depends on gear and build)

[MrShine]

Its because either the good 2 hander will be able to block your hits, until he breaks your shield or he simply needs less hits to kill you, (obviously depends on gear and build)

Perhaps, but I have 2 counter arguments to this:
1) I use a knightly heater shield, and even with 4 shield skill during my shield usually lasts for a solid fight or two.  Most shielders have 5 or 6 shield skill so theirs should last even longer
2) If the shield does break I probably have gotten a few hits in against the 2-hander, which should help with the disadvantage I have against the longer reach of the 2-hander.

[Dalhi]

Maybe I a bit overstated the percentages, but from my own experience against really good 2 handers it ain't that simple, since most of the 2 handers has agi based builds so they can simply outrun/outrange you, as you now shielder has rather heavy eq what makes him vulnerable to whose kind of oponenet movements. So it's not about breaking your shield. Avarage player with greatsword/longsword in duel can hitslash you even if you hold your shield, this is happening to me very often. What is more I'seen a lot of this kind of fights, and in most of them 2 handers won... unless they can't block properly. There is one more "dirty trick" that gives a huge advantage against shielders, kick slashing... but to be honest only a few players in EU keeps using it. With shield this technique is way more harder, if you'll miss be sure that you get hitted.
Of course if you're a decent shielder it won't be that easy to kill you, but it seems that Myltinous, to whom I was talking to, isn't any experienced in fighting with shield.

[Corrado_Decimo]

There is one more "dirty trick" that gives a huge advantage against shielders, kick slashing... but to be honest only a few players in EU keeps using it. With shield this technique is way more harder, if you'll miss be sure that you get hitted.

kickslash technique is not easy as a 2hander neither as a shielder. but there is a simple counter to that. if the shielder knows that his opponent is a good kickslasher, he should never attack him straight. should step forward to hit, advancing either on left or right (right is better because of the 1h "headslash" left attack.)

if you meet a kickslasher like wayne, phyrex, bjord, well will be hard anyway.. kicks or not.

[Gurnisson]

kickslash technique is not easy as a 2hander neither as a shielder.

You can't block while kicking as a shielder, but you can manually block with a weapon while kicking. I often use kick slashing, so that's one of the things I don't like about being a shielder.

[Corrado_Decimo]

You can't block while kicking as a shielder, but you can manually block with a weapon while kicking. I often use kick slashing, so that's one of the things I don't like about being a shielder.

not totally true. you can manual block and press the kick, but when the animation kick starts, you don't block anymore.

[Gurnisson]

Up, left and right blocks all the way through the kick animation. Down block has a window where it doesn't block.