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Remove ladders from battle?

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Offline jemoeder

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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2011, 12:25:49 am »
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Damn ladders should be banned in normal battle and siege. Players may need to adjust their rambo running into battle style so they can take advantage of the archers in their team but the ladders as it stands now are just crazy. 10 dudes on a roof shooting from close range at people unhindered and none can though them. In Siege they also suck. Defenders can only win by creating a bottleneck where they can hold the enemy. Now there is just a huge ladder spam and no place is safe for defenders and the walls are actually a disadvantage often because attackers tend to jump on you from places you cant see. 

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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2011, 10:59:43 am »
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Indeed.

Most of the ranged gets to a well protected roof in 30-40 seconds, you have no time to counter because they destroy the damned ladder, and even if they leave it on, it's just a death trap.

Remove them, for sanity's sake.

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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2011, 12:52:12 pm »
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OK, delete ladders but add acrobatics. (If u want realism)

We can climb some roofs use our hands. Its realistic. We cant crouch and u talk about realism.

Archery already nerfed 6 time and HORSE ARCHERY end! Archers last option is roofs. U want easy kills.

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ranged cowering on the roof

We dont fear 2 handers, u fear archers. We cant use heavy armor or ironflesh build and now we cant use horse because bows dont good on horseback. If u want sandbox game pls play with dummy bots. I have 8 power draw, +3 horn bow, +3 bodkin BUT cant kill head shots. All like terminator, arrow enter brain from eye but chracter return.
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2011, 01:10:28 pm »
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OK, delete ladders but add acrobatics. (If u want realism)

We can climb some roofs use our hands. Its realistic. We cant crouch and u talk about realism.

and while we talk about realism, add option to set the building on fire to torches, so we can somehow get them off these roofs

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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2011, 03:25:05 pm »
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I agree. most rounds there are 2 sets of roof camping archers. a melee clusterfuck and cav riding round wondering who they are supposed to attack.
when one side wins the melee its just waiting for the roof campers to get down. it is boring!

keep ladders in siege sure but why do we need them in battle?



and please dont just say get a shield :/ the game isnt shield vs archer :D
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2011, 03:43:03 pm »
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Cavs eat archers at dinner.

Why vote ? I think only archers pick "no". 2 handers and cavs like this poll because no one say "no" for more kill.

Any one see 40-5 ratio archer ? But i see 40-5 ratio 2h and cav. No ladder = 50-5 ratio cav and 2h.

I say again, archery nerfed enoughly, stop crying. Bow and arrow not toy (but now like toy) its weapon.

If u hate archers suggest "no ranged servers" but pls dont suggest nerf.
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2011, 05:17:41 pm »
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Also, to counter the get a shield argument. When you are a 2h, you can't use your shield and attack simultaneously. A lot of the getting hit by ranged happens while youre in a melee fight. Also using that shield makes you vulnerable to suprises, cause when you holster it you get hit.

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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2011, 05:56:45 pm »
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U want easy kills.

This is what it comes down to. They hate getting shot and want ranged to be easy prey. Lets not pretend there are nearly as many ladders as there were before the slot patch. Ranged can't bring there own anymore if they still want to shoot. The ability to take the high ground adds another layer of strategy to the game and it will be a sad day when/if these folks get their way.  Sometimes I think some people would rather every map just be a big field where everyone takes a 2 hander and runs at eachother.
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2011, 06:07:52 pm »
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its nothing to do with easy kills. 4-5 archers in a group on the ground isnt an easy kill. what we want to do is PLAY crpg. not spend the entire round hiding and watching 2 massive groups of ranged players camping on a couple of roofs
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2011, 06:11:49 pm »
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its nothing to do with easy kills. 4-5 archers in a group on the ground isnt an easy kill. what we want to do is PLAY crpg. not spend the entire round hiding and watching 2 massive groups of ranged players camping on a couple of roofs

So you spend the entirety of every round just hiding from ranged?  Either BS or you need some better tactics my friend...
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2011, 06:17:24 pm »
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Ladders have nothing to add on battle servers besides turning the game into a mediaval zombie shooter for the legolass wannabe´s

I dont understand why the majority of you archers dont go play left for dead 2 or something..  :arrow: http://www.l4d.com/game.html
« Last Edit: September 03, 2011, 06:18:42 pm by Tzar »
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2011, 06:29:05 pm »
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Ladders add strategy. This is not zombie kill game, its strategy game. "roof delaying" already banned in rules and admins kick or ban delayers.
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2011, 06:33:19 pm »
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Ladders add strategy. This is not zombie kill game, its strategy game. "roof delaying" already banned in rules and admins kick or ban delayers.

Being unable fight back makes it a zombie shooter.

Remove ladders from battle all ready.
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2011, 06:35:08 pm »
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Being unable fight back makes it a zombie shooter.

Remove ladders from battle all ready.

You're probably one of those guys who breaks the ladder so you can complain about not being able to get up there
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Re: Remove ladders from battle
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2011, 06:40:04 pm »
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Being unable fight back makes it a zombie shooter.

Remove ladders from battle all ready.

Ok, if 2 handers dont want ladders my deal is :

- Remove ladders from battle

- Give back archer damage, archer missile speed and horse archery.
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