2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons

[Sir_Ironlake]

I love how 1Handers keep whining all the time, 1H+Shield is now the most powerful build and they still whine. If you are outspammed put your shield on your back and you will spam the hell out of anyone with your 100+ speed swords. Just look on the servers, if 1H+shield would be that bad there wouldn't be so many shielders out there. However 1handers keep getting buffed

Actually, the better explanation for so many shields around might be the fact that there are so many shit flying thru the air (throwing mostly, but arrows also, bolts less) ... just sayin, you know, not the fact that they are so powerful in a fight

[Wookimonsta]

This is indeed a serious problem. I suggest that you view this link and tell me what you think about what you see there and how it could influence 2h vs 1h+shield combat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k&feature=player_embedded#!

[BlameMeForTheNoise]

153 wpf, 101 Niuweidao and Harmless Peasant consistently outswings me with 1wpf in 2h with the wooden hammer.

Guess you look kinda like this:


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[rufio]

Simply not true.

I got one of the fastest possible while still practical 2h builds.

masterwork katana 104 speed
25 agi / will be 27
171 2h wpf

Even low level 18-22 lvl shielders can get a hit in between my swings. If you can't, check your ping, your system or learn to react faster.

I never even try to "outspam" a shielder as it is suicide to try to do so. Only times I hack away at a shield is if i meet some obviously scared player that never attacks, but only backpedals, and I have time and safety to hack his shield to pieces. (requires a lot of hits) But even this is very rare.

Stop spreading the myth that katanas can outspam everything. Yes it's the fastest 2h but it's not THAT fast.

agreed, stop the whine l2p

[Gorath]

This is indeed a serious problem. I suggest that you view this link and tell me what you think about what you see there and how it could influence 2h vs 1h+shield combat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k&feature=player_embedded#!

Epic.  It's good to know the devs are aware of the issue.

[Blondin]

I guess there a lot of shielders for two main reasons :

- ranged objects spamming the air.

- you don't have to be skilled in manual block.

But not because they are OP...

It's a good class but good in defense not in attack (low damages) and you got to have timing and footwork to not be spammed by 2handers.
As said, it's not a matter of weapons stats but it's a matter of animation.
I guess this class is balanced, you can't have good protection AND good speed/damages, you have to make a choice. If you want to spam or kill ppl in one strike then play a 2hander, but then you will have to learn manual block and arrows dodging.

[Dexxtaa]

Oh oh I post here, too

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Dear two-hand weapon whiner-abouters.

I am Dexxtaa_RS. I've bought and played this game for just over 3 months now.

All I have to say about two-handers is that in the times I find one of you silly one-hander limp-wrist guys, I spend my time beating down your shield with my sword and relish in watching you panic when your shield breaks and you either

a) go nuts and try to spam the peasant or
b) go nuts and run away to find another shield.

So complain all you want, as you must realize your shield is your crutch.

Keep whinging and whining, because I love it when people call two handers overpowered. It makes my straw hat happy.

[AirPhforce]

Best because he can bypass my entire spec with a single parry, 1wpf, and a cheap but devastating 2h weapon.

GET ON HIS LEVEL

[Punisher]

Nerf Katana now, it's too fast, even a fat kid with no WPF can spam it.

Proof:
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[Golradir]

lmao, pure win.

[justme]

my 1h nordic was nerfed, who is saying that it is buffing?

[Momo]

Nerf Katana now, it's too fast, even a fat kid with no WPF can spam it.

Proof:
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XD

[Paul]

Fun fact: The only requirement to join the Ninja clan is a BMI>30.

[Gorath]

 
Oy...
This thread is still going on?
All 2her elitism aside, and 1her waaaah:  Are 2h/polearms significantly faster than 1h weapons?  No
They're faster than 1h+shields.  The problem lies in the shield speeds.  The fact that using a shield somehow gimps your melee effectiveness is crazy to be perfectly honest, it's counter intuitive.  Leave 2her/polearm speeds alone.  Leave 1her speeds alone.  Fix shield speeds.  Hell, make us have to manual block with them, that's fine.  Most of us decent shielders can manual block just fine anyways and duel 1her no shield.  Personally I like playing 1h+shield because I think it looks cool, and makes far more sense on a battlefield*.  When I think of warriors at battle I think of guys with some kind of 1h'd weapon and a shield on the other arm, which btw is used more as an offensive tool than something they cower behind.

It's just a style preference.

*I'd like to avoid realism arguments and just talk about gameplay because if we bring in realism 2hers have no place on the battlefield really other than hollywood highlander/anime bullshit.*

[DrKronic]

Actually 2h warriors were highly paid elite troops
http://www.thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html

Here read actually alot of good historical info there and elsewhere

I know history is forbidden but allowing gorath to talk out of his ass to further his weapon lobbying is retarded