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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2011, 11:59:23 pm »
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so he is a peasant with a German poleaxe?
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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2011, 12:15:26 am »
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I swing, the opponent parries, I prepare another swing immediately (spam), my opponent also prepares a swing immediately after parry, their swing fires and hits first.

I am dead.

Against 1 wpf in 2h... vs my 153 and 101 speed weapon...

Reach allows your opponent to hit you before you hit them even if you have a faster weapon.

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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2011, 12:16:27 am »
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No same level as me most likely (Around level 30)

Even with a high agility build they still shouldn't be able to swing that fast. If anything the strength requirement should be high enough to prevent the option of agility based hammer wielding crush through block machines.

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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2011, 12:21:54 am »
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wait so he is a lvl 30 peasant wut? your story keeps changing, sounds like you tried to duke it out turtle vs hammer, lost and got mad
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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2011, 12:24:28 am »
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wait so he is a lvl 30 peasant wut? your story keeps changing, sounds like you tried to duke it out turtle vs hammer, lost and got mad
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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2011, 12:26:40 am »
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HarmlessPeasant is the name of the player.
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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2011, 12:31:45 am »
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HarmlessPeasant is the name of the player.

And Harmless Peasant also happens to be one of the absolute best players on the US servers, typically going 30 and 3.

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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2011, 12:35:36 am »
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Give me a warning or a ----+++ troll points or something ,  i dunno. I grew ipmatient of this shit.


SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU 1H+SHIELD FUCKFACES, LEARN TO PLAY. STOP FUCKING WHINING ALREADY.

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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2011, 12:36:30 am »
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Best because he can bypass my entire spec with a single parry, 1wpf, and a cheap but devastating 2h weapon.

^^ Btw above poster you have been reported.

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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2011, 12:56:21 am »
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1h+shield vs hammer is where you put away your shield and to spam them. Shields give a significant speed penalty.

Btw wpf is almost useless in this game anymore( except for archery).


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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2011, 12:56:29 am »
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I'm not convinced you weren't just outplayed. Either way, shielders get lots of advantages too, if one slow weapon-class can get through your shield, I wouldn't say that's too horrible.
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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2011, 01:00:12 am »
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And Harmless Peasant also happens to be one of the absolute best players on the US servers, typically going 30 and 3.

Yep, joy to watch too.  Her timing is amazing, she's typically the only one I bother watching entire rounds just to learn how to play better.  Still gets taken out by people who know how to lolstab but if she's swarmed by 10 people and none of them have range there's a fairly good chance she's coming out on top.

Anyway Konrax I don't know you so I can't comment on your skill so don't take this the wrong way, but skill should beat build no matter what.  It's the same for any class.  Against someone like pridecrusher, you really shouldn't expect to win if you use a shield, it'll just get in your way.  At least, that's what it looks like most of the time, the only times I've seen her lose fairly were against people who were competent duelists.  Never seen anyone with a shield do it, there's just too many disadvantages against someone who can manual block as good as her.
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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2011, 01:05:21 am »
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so you would like to be able to spam your 1h weapon while also having your shield out in a speed that allowes you to force the opponent 2h/polearm guy to either constantly block or die.

sounds fair to me
you got my vote!

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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2011, 01:05:40 am »
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So I guess based on this information the biggest advantage 1h has is the shield. The biggest problem 1h has is the shield.

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Re: 2h/Polearms STILL significantly faster than 1h weapons
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2011, 01:08:00 am »
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Like everything, it depends on the situation.  In this situation vs a lolhammer, you might want to put away your shield.  Another good player I've seen is Frogger, on his alt he typically puts away his shield when expecting to fight someone competent.
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