Op Xbows!

[Teeth]

What about focusing on nerfing players that use xbows with 1wpf?

Black soldiers= Fasader and his item balancing crew
Ape= Random player with 1wpf in xbows
AK-47= Arbalest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqH4E0VXGE&feature=player_embedded

Most interesting

[Shinobi]

What about focusing on nerfing players that use xbows with 1wpf?

Black soldiers= Fasader and his item balancing crew
Ape= Random player with 1wpf in xbows
AK-47= Arbalest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqH4E0VXGE&feature=player_embedded

lol very nice video Mtemtko, thanks for sharing the link. And yes, I support nerfing 1wpf Arbalest users too. Balance archived with upkeep alone never works that well.

[Wookimonsta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqH4E0VXGE&feature=player_embedded

that, is the single greatest video i have ever seen

[RagnarLodbroke]

So we have an archer (most likely without IF) complaining about getting killed in 1 hit from an arbalest while wearing a kaftan.

When are you going to make a thread about GLA's, Flamberge's and the like 1 hitting you? Probably never, because you can usually outrun them or shoot them before they get to you.

There's an extensive thread about xbows in comparison to bows, I suggest you read the comments from the devs there.

Oh and whenever I hit even a naked archer over long distance with +3 arbalest and +3 steel bolts, he would not die in 1 hit.

HOW THE HELL DO U EXPECT A ARCHER TO PUT POINTS IN IF? jesus christ....ur just making me more mad!
Also when u hit a naked archer he got no chance to survive from a x3 arbalest and x3 steel bolts, range doesnt matter! Pure Bullshit man....Not even a naked guy with 10 If would survive that, or he might, if he is god...

To another note..a flamberge needs to hit to kill me! Depends where he hits me, if he hits me in the head im dead! But if its a bodyhit i might survive. It also depends on the flamberge guy's build! If he is a str build with 10 ps ofc im dead! Also Spawny i know how to block... so with a slow flamberge i got np to move backwards and block!

Anyway back to topic! A archer need Powerdraw to use Bows...which means, u get 6 less skillpoints to use! And i prefer a 18/21 build as a archer, which means i need to convert some of my skillpoints to attribute points!

Got no idea how to build a xbowman, but im gonna try 18/18, and i think its gonna be a Ok build!
U also get 12 more skillpoints to spend....

[Gorath]

I still stand by my argument. All the lobbyists sons of *peep* can go to hell as far as I care. Im a xbowman myself and I am not afraid of change; the current situation is fucked up.

My opinion:
More reloading speed across the board
Less Damage acoss the board

A hybrid between the insanely fast reloads and the insanely slow reloads of c-rpg would be best.

So essentially just another bow for archery.

[Magikarp]

So essentially just another bow for archery.

You don't understand what I'm saying than.

Every weapon get's a speedincrease from heirlooming, as did the arbalest. Now the arbalest get's NO speedincrease from heirlooming, while all other weapons including bows still do. Not so general. Was changed with patch 0.232 or the lastest one.

I brought it up since you said you never saw changes since the 2nd c-rpg wipe. Since I've been playing for over a year and never witnessed a wipe it seemed relevant to your claim.

Ranged weapons get a accuracy, shoot speed and damage increase. Melee weapons a speed increase of 1 point and a damage increase. Your point?

There were 2 wipes, one before I joined and one after I joined. After the second one chadz swore to never wipe characters and gold anymore. I must've been playing longer than you than.

[LordRichrich]

HOW THE HELL DO U EXPECT A ARCHER TO PUT POINTS IN IF? jesus christ....ur just making me more mad!
Also when u hit a naked archer he got no chance to survive from a x3 arbalest and x3 steel bolts, range doesnt matter! Pure Bullshit man....Not even a naked guy with 10 If would survive that, or he might, if he is god...

Uh, most xbow men don't have x3 bolts and x3 xbow. I don't have any looms. So stop complaaining about loom modifiers, it's a whole different bucket of fish

And go 15 str and put the rest in agi

[Gorath]

HOW THE HELL DO U EXPECT A ARCHER TO PUT POINTS IN IF? jesus christ....ur just making me more mad!

You click the little button as you're building your character so that it adds points to IF.  My archer put points in IF just fine.



Strength

15/21

Archery 150 wpf
2her 80 wpf

Iron Flesh 5

Power strike 5

Athletics 7

Power Draw 5

Weapon Master 7

[RagnarLodbroke]

Uh, most xbow men don't have x3 bolts and x3 xbow. I don't have any looms. So stop complaaining about loom modifiers, it's a whole different bucket of fish

And go 15 str and put the rest in agi

well thanks for ur tip! But the old players who's been here for over 1 year they have got a x3 xbow and x3 bolts...Or they can just buy a loom on the marketplace!

[RagnarLodbroke]

You click the little button as you're building your character so that it adds points to IF.  My archer put points in IF just fine.



Strength

15/21

Archery 150 wpf
2her 80 wpf

Iron Flesh 5

Power strike 5

Athletics 7

Power Draw 5

Weapon Master 7

i prefer a 18/21 build....i got a the MW Longbow so i need atleast 6 pd!
Think i said that in my other post, Again....jesus christ!

[Gorath]

i prefer a 18/21 build....i got a the MW Longbow so i need atleast 6 pd!
Think i said that in my other post, Again....jesus christ!

Right, which means lack of IF is a failure on your part because of your own choices about your build.  Was simply saying that it's indeed quite possible and practical for archers to have IF.  Hell making an archer is like making a shielder.  Only instead of those points going into shield, they go into power draw.  /shrug.

[Magikarp]

Right, which means lack of IF is a failure on your part because of your own choices about your build.  Was simply saying that it's indeed quite possible and practical for archers to have IF.  Hell making an archer is like making a shielder.  Only instead of those points going into shield, they go into power draw.  /shrug.

No it isn't lol, going for IF as an archer is the most idiotic thing you can do. Powerdraw, athletics and weaponmaster above everything.

[RagnarLodbroke]

No it isn't lol, going for IF as an archer is the most idiotic thing you can do. Powerdraw, athletics and weaponmaster above everything.

THIS

[MadJackMcMad]

Would someone explain to me why, when a weapon is so overpowered, it still only accounts for 5% of kills?  Crossbowmen are fine because they are situational, their performance is reliant on map, gametype and the rest of their team. 

Archers do need a buff however.  Their range should be longer and their deceleration slower.  The proficiency hit to armour should be lowered so that mail is viable.  Their accuracy should also be increased to equal that of a crossbow with equal proficiency.

[Mtemtko]

No it isn't lol, going for IF as an archer is the most idiotic thing you can do. Powerdraw, athletics and weaponmaster above everything.

Well.. its your  problem if you get oneshot when you have the choice to get IF or armor for sacrificing something, dont whine then.
With studded leather coat and lordly wisbys,15str,2IF I survive arbalest bolts with 10-30% hp left..