Cavalry Are Still Overpowered

[Thucydides]

Im a polearm and when i carry a long spear cav avoid me like the plague, until i drop it though

[Baggy]

If u dont ull get warned by a admin.

[Digglez]

Most teams are like this because they aren't communicating with each other. It's a random match. Like I said earlier, even if I use a polearm as much as possible, not everyone on my team would have the same idea; and one man can't make such a difference. I'm still going to lose. I'll lose money, get cheaper gear, and just be an easier target to cavalry. Cavalry are at the top of the food chain and have too much control over the game.

Of course a few people use their long weapons, but it doesn't always work because cavalry are still hard to kill either way unless you team up against one of them.

News flash, the team that sticks together the best wins the VAST majority of the time.  Instead of crying on the forums maybe you could try leading your team, convince/persuade them to stick together to beat cav.

If you think cav is so easy, roll cav and you'll see the grass is always greener.  Anyone with a polearm or 2h sword (which accounts for 50% of population) and even most 1h swords can impale you in a heartbeat if you are foolish enough to charge them.  Not to mention even the players carrying anti-cav weapons die, anyone can wonder by and pick up their weapons to counter you.

Play both sides and make an informed post instead of your ignorance.

[Gorath]

Instead of crying on the forums maybe you could try leading your team, convince/persuade them to stick together to beat cav.

Because pub players in internet games are renown for their cohesion, teamwork and willingness to work together and listen to each other.

In other news;  The government is here to help you.

[BADPLAYERold]

Are you the guy that kept on trying to outrange my heavy lance with a poleaxe? Yeah, maybe you should have picked up a long spear and made it almost impossible for me to kill you instead of dieing repeatedly.

[Momo]

I made a topic about the roof/high jumper HEAVY horses, but nooo they said we have to keep that for balance....

[Smoothrich]

Yes, of all things in the game that need balancing, we need to buff rooftop camping and nerf horse jumping.  Please, if you are dumb enough to think you're safe from LLJK heavy cav squad a mere 5-10 meters off the ground, you deserve the epic leaping lance you get to end the match.  During this strain of matches, it was literally me and BADPLAYER +4 others against about 15-18 players. 

If everyone bought a pike or crossbow or something, like everyone did when Dark Karma, Marcus, and some other Chaos guys finally came on, we would've been totally shut down.  Instead you guys just tried to hide in a corner or rushed out, loaded with short 2 handers and tunnel visioned bowmen.

They've nerfed cavalry literally every patch in a row.  It can hardly be nerfed any more to justify the high costs.  The fact of the matter is cavalry just dominated medieval battlefields IRL and they do in this game.  People play like cavalry don't exist or aren't a big deal then just get wrecked from behind by them.  You can't "balance" for poor situational awareness, you should focus on improving instead.

[Overdriven]

Leaping lance is one of the best things in crpg. Something I've pulled off a couple of time in the past.

You think your safe from cav in the top floor of the ruined house on the map Ruins last player on the map. Think again infantry nub (charges down hill with heavy horse and leaps over the stairs and through the door to lance in the face).

Joking aside, cav is nerfed enough. Leave us alone please 

[Draulius]

Leaping lance is one of the best things in crpg. Something I've pulled off a couple of time in the past.

You think your safe from cav in the top floor of the ruined house on the map Ruins last player on the map. Think again infantry nub (charges down hill with heavy horse and leaps over the stairs and through the door to lance in the face).

Joking aside, cav is nerfed enough. Leave us alone please 

You're saying you don't want Cavalry nerfed just because you play them. From an infantry standpoint, it's true, they could still be toned-down. See for yourself some time.

[Smoothrich]

I do infantry all the time, with a Danish Greatsword I can kill pretty much any cav.  If I'm polearms I always bring a long spear on cav maps to support my team.  I try to not stay alone and keep an eye on where cav are.  Cav just fuck you if they catch you unaware or knock you down while you are fighting.  This isn't a matter of stats, just player knowledge of the game.

[Draulius]

I do infantry all the time, with a Danish Greatsword I can kill pretty much any cav.  If I'm polearms I always bring a long spear on cav maps to support my team.  I try to not stay alone and keep an eye on where cav are.  Cav just fuck you if they catch you unaware or knock you down while you are fighting.  This isn't a matter of stats, just player knowledge of the game.

A knowledgeable cavalry can always beat a knowledgeable infantry (unless there's a fluke). That's the thing, they always have an advantage no matter what.

[Smoothrich]

No, they can't.  Long spears and Pikes out range any lance in the game.  Danish/German Greatswords on a thrust almost have the same reach.  Infantry can carry crossbows that one shot most horses.  You can just strafe to the side at the last second and they miss the lance.  What kind of changes would you recommend anyways?  They already reduced lancing angle to much less then what it is, made horses more expensive, and have lowered all the horse stats repeatedly every patch.  Sounds like you're recommending cav is just removed from the game because it's too scary to deal with.

[Gorath]

You can just strafe to the side at the last second and they miss the lance. 

This only works against cav that pressed the couched lance key and then walked away from the keyboard.  Just saying.

Other than that I agree with everything you said.

[Tears of Destiny]

A knowledgeable cavalry can always beat a knowledgeable infantry (unless there's a fluke). That's the thing, they always have an advantage no matter what.

How? If both players are of equal skill and aware of each other, it is impossible for a cavalry unit to hurt a Pike/Long Spear user and avoid getting the horse stunned and then him or it killed. Also keep in mind that a bamboo spear is longer then even a heavy lance, and if you use it in one hand (like a shield) then your thrust animation is identical to that of the cavalry unit who has a heavy lance, and thus can still outrange him even as a spartan build...

[Seawied]

No, they can't.  Long spears and Pikes out range any lance in the game.  Danish/German Greatswords on a thrust almost have the same reach.  Infantry can carry crossbows that one shot most horses.  You can just strafe to the side at the last second and they miss the lance.  What kind of changes would you recommend anyways?  They already reduced lancing angle to much less then what it is, made horses more expensive, and have lowered all the horse stats repeatedly every patch.  Sounds like you're recommending cav is just removed from the game because it's too scary to deal with.

well said. I think this post pretty much covers the debate.