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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2011, 01:41:35 pm »
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No excuses then, you should be able to counter the cavalry.

My Elegant can take most cav alone, only the very skilled lancers give me a slight headache.
doesn't matter how much you can kill cav, they will just rape the rest off your team that can't and it ends with you being last alone vs rest off enemy team.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2011, 01:43:51 pm »
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doesn't matter how much you can kill cav, they will just rape the rest off your team that can't and it ends with you being last alone vs rest off enemy team.
Funny, you and I just said the same thing. That's because it's true.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2011, 01:44:01 pm »
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The team that has 50% archers will win, the team that has a pike with every second melee player will win... there are just too many ways to look at it. I hope you get my point.
This is just a thing of autobalance. It makes matches random.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2011, 01:48:26 pm »
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The team that has 50% archers will win, the team that has a pike with every second melee player will win... there are just too many ways to look at it. I hope you get my point.
This is just a thing of autobalance. It makes matches random.
Random isn't a good thing (as you may know). It's about a 50/50 chance you'll get a team that wins (if even slightly), so that multiplier doesn't last for long.  This makes upkeep more difficult, so players are too afraid to buy better gear while cavalry steamroll them. It's very frustrating, especially since the full-cavalry clans are usually on one team, which even further reduces your chance of winning.

Cavalry have too much influence on the game.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2011, 01:54:36 pm »
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You really cant just rely on autobalancing, and a single person will rarely make a difference in 120 man battles, unless one decides to command, (take phazh for example), with some tactics and commanding one team can win round after round no matter what odds they are against ( i remember a 35v80 random battle with mercs, we kept winning for almost 2 hours).
Yeah obviously not everyone will listen, but sooner or later after some good battles people will cooperate more and remember you.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2011, 01:57:02 pm »
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Too much of anything has too much influence on this game. A team of competent crossbowmen/archers > all.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 01:59:24 pm »
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You really cant just rely on autobalancing, and a single person will rarely make a difference in 120 man battles, unless one decides to command, (take phazh for example), with some tactics and commanding one team can win round after round no matter what odds they are against ( i remember a 35v80 random battle with mercs, we kept winning for almost 2 hours).
Yeah obviously not everyone will listen, but sooner or later after some good battles people will cooperate more and remember you.
Unfortunately the Cavalry Clans have tactics and commanding already(I think they're all in vent or something).

If a mostly-infantry team manages to beat cavalry then kudos to them, they must have fought weak cavalry or used one of the best strategies ever devised.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 02:00:51 pm »
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Too much of anything has too much influence on this game. A team of competent crossbowmen/archers > all.
They're 'good' in small battles too. Fire, run backward, fire, run backward, etc...

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 02:07:17 pm »
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Don't want to sound like an arse, but use the "Modify" feature more often, please.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 02:19:18 pm »
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Don't want to sound like an arse, but use the "Modify" feature more often, please.
Why?

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 02:42:27 pm »
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Why?

Because you double-posted three times in this topic.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 02:43:43 pm »
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1. Cav is not op anymore, sure skilled lancers still give many people headaches but that's because they're skilled, not because they can roflcirclelance anyone to death.

2. As a pole/throwing hybrid, you have all the tools you need and then some to defend against cav. Practice instead of whining.

3. Stop crying about getting on the "wrong"" team - you want to win, make a fkn effort to organize your team. Alternatively go to a smaller server, where one player can make a team.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2011, 03:08:51 pm »
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Have you tried cav out?

after the patch i took real time to adapt, i raged, I QQed, and stuff, but now I'v got it can face many players

Most 2handers and polearms can outrange cav. If you lose, Maybe you fell on a skilled cav?

After balance is sucky. When the server puts all the GK team on the same side, you know your screwed
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2011, 03:20:58 pm »
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Because you double-posted three times in this topic.
I only double-posted once. The other times I just had separate things to say.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2011, 03:22:02 pm »
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1. Cav is not op anymore, sure skilled lancers still give many people headaches but that's because they're skilled, not because they can roflcirclelance anyone to death.

2. As a pole/throwing hybrid, you have all the tools you need and then some to defend against cav. Practice instead of whining.

3. Stop crying about getting on the "wrong"" team - you want to win, make a fkn effort to organize your team. Alternatively go to a smaller server, where one player can make a team.
I can't change the whole game by myself. The fact they force me onto smaller servers is an issue that should be looked at.