Suggestion: Machine Crossbow (Please Consider)

[Armbrust_Schtze]

wheres the bullshit option?

[Peasant_Woman]

I have some alternative stats which are both closer to reality and more balanced. The idea is to make this a weapon that is useful in the right situation and fun to play with...but that no sane player would use for a serious build made to top the scoreboard. Like the peasant clothes/weapons.

Repeating crossbow
Cost: 22,157+ Gold (This is an exotic weapon and therefore should follow the rules for exotic weapons - overpriced as hell.)
missile speed: 38 (Slower than a hunting crossbow, just as fast as a longbow. Very easy to dodge over long distances.)
weight: 4.5 (This thing has 4 bolts loaded in a wooden magazine, as well as being a pretty annoying shape to carry and use.)
accuracy: 85 (Worse than any other ranged weapon, including throwing.)
difficulty: 16 (Harder to use than an arbalest and an awkward number, meaning the user with either go to 18 str to have a normal build (with less wpf for accuracy) or play a 16 str broken build.)
speed rating: 12 (Slower to reload than an Arbalest, extemely vulnerable while reloading.)
max ammo: (4) (Enough to stun for a brief moment if they all hit, not enough to achieve a kill on a full hp target.)
thrust damage: 10-12 pierce (Enough to stagger and do a little damage, but in no way life threatening on its own. Only scary to naked guys at short range.)
slots: 2 (Awkward shape)
Can't reload on horseback
Can't sheath

Its only advantage is its rate of fire, just like in real life. Useful purely for stunning enemy players, firing into groups and being a weaboo.
What say you?
Before you write a reply, try and pretend you aren't a polearms/2handers user who is sick of ranged being responsible for 12% of thier deaths because it is unfair that you didn't get to just right click like a shielder or have your own ranged weapon.

[Chaos]

I have some alternative stats which are both closer to reality and more balanced. The idea is to make this a weapon that is useful in the right situation and fun to play with...but that no sane player would use for a serious build made to top the scoreboard. Like the peasant clothes/weapons.

Repeating crossbow
Cost: 22,157+ Gold (This is an exotic weapon and therefore should follow the rules for exotic weapons - overpriced as hell.)
missile speed: 38 (Slower than a hunting crossbow, just as fast as a longbow. Very easy to dodge over long distances.)
weight: 4.5 (This thing has 4 bolts loaded in a wooden magazine, as well as being a pretty annoying shape to carry and use.)
accuracy: 85 (Worse than any other ranged weapon, including throwing.)
difficulty: 16 (Harder to use than an arbalest and an awkward number, meaning the user with either go to 18 str to have a normal build (with less wpf for accuracy) or play a 16 str broken build.)
speed rating: 12 (Slower to reload than an Arbalest, extemely vulnerable while reloading.)
max ammo: (4) (Enough to stun for a brief moment if they all hit, not enough to achieve a kill on a full hp target.)
thrust damage: 10-12 pierce (Enough to stagger and do a little damage, but in no way life threatening on its own. Only scary to naked guys at short range.)
slots: 2 (Awkward shape)
Can't reload on horseback
Can't sheath

Its only advantage is its rate of fire, just like in real life. Useful purely for stunning enemy players, firing into groups and being a weaboo.
What say you?
Before you write a reply, try and pretend you aren't a polearms/2handers user who is sick of ranged being responsible for 12% of thier deaths because it is unfair that you didn't get to just right click like a shielder or have your own ranged weapon.

Should have slightly higher cut damage imo.

Otherwise these stats look gimped enough not to cause any real commotion, while still providing us with a new novelty item. And its not japanese and therefore cannot help us be weeaboos, although the consideration is appreciated.

[Duke]

I already made a thread for the Chinese repeater awhile back:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,7426.0.html

It was not met with a warm reception.

[Phalanx300]

No new ranged weapon is. (Not that weird when everyone is playing 2 hander  )

However if its balanced then there is no problem, something most people don't seem to realise. For example the Chinese Repeater would be able to fire multiple shots, however it would be more inaccurate then the other Crossbows and the damage would be lower then the other Crossbows. Reloading it would also take longer then the other Crossbows.

Same with an Arquebus. Higher damage then Crossbows. More inaccurate then the strongest Crossbow. Takes longest to reload of all ranged weapons.

With the above in mind how exactly would it be OP?    Even if something is it can be further balanced.

Too bad of too many narrow minded players on Warband.

[Armbrust_Schtze]

better focus on fire arms!!

[isatis]

I found this is a very good idea and + it exist in real life!

but just to make this weapon a true weapon (aka not a troll weapon, a lulz weapon or a OP weapon) here my suggestion:

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mainly it's the same as Peasant_Woman but with little modification

I have some alternative stats which are both closer to reality and more balanced. The idea is to make this a weapon that is useful in the right situation and fun to play with...but that no sane player would use for a serious build made to top the scoreboard. Like the peasant clothes/weapons.

Repeating crossbow
Cost: 22,157+ Gold (This is an exotic weapon and therefore should follow the rules for exotic weapons - overpriced as hell.) 
missile speed: 38 (Slower than a hunting crossbow, just as fast as a longbow. Very easy to dodge over long distances.)
weight: 4.5 (This thing has 4 bolts loaded in a wooden magazine, as well as being a pretty annoying shape to carry and use.)
accuracy: 85 (Worse than any other ranged weapon, including throwing.)
difficulty: 16 (Harder to use than an arbalest and an awkward number, meaning the user with either go to 18 str to have a normal build (with less wpf for accuracy) or play a 16 str broken build.)
speed rating: 12 (Slower to reload than an Arbalest, extemely vulnerable while reloading.)
max ammo: (4) (Enough to stun for a brief moment if they all hit, not enough to achieve a kill on a full hp target.)
thrust damage: 10-12 pierce (Enough to stagger and do a little damage, but in no way life threatening on its own. Only scary to naked guys at short range.)
slots: 2 (Awkward shape)
Can't reload on horseback
Can't sheath

Its only advantage is its rate of fire, just like in real life. Useful purely for stunning enemy players, firing into groups and being a weaboo.
What say you?
Before you write a reply, try and pretend you aren't a polearms/2handers user who is sick of ranged being responsible for 12% of thier deaths because it is unfair that you didn't get to just right click like a shielder or have your own ranged weapon.

this is mainly what I pretend to have but here's my change (and this gen I am a shielder so ranged are like pfff to me!):

cost: 20k (we want an usable weapon and also why such an ankward number? 22 157 ? )
missile speed: ok, not a lot of force in that little thing
weigth: maybe 4 will be more realistic (this weapon was rather small) but let's not argue for a .5
accuracy: humm ok, a repeatition crossbow was not a precise weapon
difficulty: let's say yes because in reality this mecanism was rather complex and only skilled warrior could use it
speed rating: historically this crossbow (cho-ko-nu) was one of the fastest to reload (you just have to put bolt in the charger...) so 12 is... let's put 20 to make everyone happy!
max ammo 4: Isatis approve but we will maybe have more problem du to the normal bolt... so let's put 3
thrust damage: are you kidding?? those thing, even if we all agree of there lack of power were not little girl toys! let's make this much more damage but cut damage as those bolt would never pierce an armor therefore: 24 (add steel bolt:30) CUT damage
slot:2 ok even if this weapon is rather small
unsheatable: no, if the great maul is sheatable this weapon surely is!
also I agree that the main goal of this weapon is to stun ennemie on a big mob but I just want this weapon to be able to kill a naked peasant in less than 4 shot...

here my information site on cho-ko-nu: http://www.arco-iris.com/George/chu-ko-nu.htm

so what do you say about my stat?

[Sir_Mateusz]

No Strider I think its bad idea.  We need THIS crossbow!

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[ArchonAlarion]

I like the stats Isatis came up with, although the gold cost would need to be fiddled with after the initial introduction of the weapon.

[Phalanx300]

I think it should be made more realistic with the stats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo13R_fSvnI&feature=related

So accurate amount of bolts before reloading. So 10 Bolts. Long reload time. Inaccurate. Low Damage. It should be about the relatively fast rate of fire.

[spaceoden]

I voted "too ideal for trolling/ Annoying" because I think you guys haven't considered what this will do to every other player. Anyone who won't be purchasing this will suddenly have a completely new and strange enemy they will have to adapt to. I don't think any mod for warband has heavily used repeating crossbows. So this feature hasn't been tested yet, especially in MP. chadz won't touch this with a ten foot pole.

[Dexxtaa]

Probably already posted, but I thought the timestamp would be prudent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToxcNxED5I#t=1m

Also, the darts are severely low damage weapons, so they poisoned the tips. (paraphrase from the video).

GOOD TIMES. SOMEONE INTRODUCE POISON DAMAGE IN WSE, THEN WE CAN GET MAGES IN ON THIS WARBAND ACTION

[Strider]

Repeating crossbow
Cost: 22,157+ Gold (This is an exotic weapon and therefore should follow the rules for exotic weapons - overpriced as hell.)
missile speed: 38 (Slower than a hunting crossbow, just as fast as a longbow. Very easy to dodge over long distances.)
weight: 4.5 (This thing has 4 bolts loaded in a wooden magazine, as well as being a pretty annoying shape to carry and use.)
accuracy: 85 (Worse than any other ranged weapon, including throwing.)
difficulty: 16 (Harder to use than an arbalest and an awkward number, meaning the user with either go to 18 str to have a normal build (with less wpf for accuracy) or play a 16 str broken build.)
speed rating: 12 (Slower to reload than an Arbalest, extemely vulnerable while reloading.)
max ammo: (4) (Enough to stun for a brief moment if they all hit, not enough to achieve a kill on a full hp target.)
thrust damage: 10-12 pierce (Enough to stagger and do a little damage, but in no way life threatening on its own. Only scary to naked guys at short range.)
slots: 2 (Awkward shape)
Can't reload on horseback
Can't sheath

Its only advantage is its rate of fire, just like in real life. Useful purely for stunning enemy players, firing into groups and being a weaboo.
What say you?
Before you write a reply, try and pretend you aren't a polearms/2handers user who is sick of ranged being responsible for 12% of thier deaths because it is unfair that you didn't get to just right click like a shielder or have your own ranged weapon.

These stats make the repeater xbow useless.  85 accuracy? no. 10-12 pierce? wth? What is this a pitchfork?    It should hav like 40 pierce damage. Waaay too many disadvanages. These stats make it unable to fire far, unable to hit anyone (innacurate), unable to kill (low damage),
I think this weapon should be unable to sheath and be 2 slots. It should be ideal for a pure xbowmen with a high wpf dedication (more than 140)

[Strider]

I changed the xbows stats. Hopefully this takes a better likeing.
Has lowest shootspeed outta all xbows. lowest acurracy.
It would not be effective without high wpf in crossbows. and must be used as main weapon. (Cannot shealth).
Also is 2 slots. So it cannot be used with a 2H or polearm or even a 1H and sheild.

I feel there has never been a reason to go pure xbow build. This will provide a reason.

[Mckillroy]

One thing you are proposing a crossbow that can fire rapidly and cause good damage similar to a light crossbow but cant be fired from horse like the light crossbow. Second thing, the reason their is no rapid fire crossbow to begin with is because it would make bows completely useless (except for horse archers but don't tell them i said that!). So sorry but no .  I predict a future of Fallen every were with death machines. And even with all the restrictions then no one will use it not worth a re download.