cRPG is whinners biased

[Skurcey]

with last archery nerf, when you play an archer and are forced to use a low end armor, no hand armor and no helmet.
You are one shotted by crossbow, by cavalery and by crossbow. Even the javelin is faster than an arrow, the Rus bow is shooting at the same speed than the horn bow.
The cross bow, useable without skill point (well one or two weapon master) do more damage, has pierce damage, and the projectile is much faster, where the archer need to invest nearly all is point in archery, and 6 points in power draw.
I'm really tired that the dev listen to the cry baby that yell for a nerf, because they cant invest 3 skill points in shield.

History of patches:
-nerfed power draw
-nerfed accurancy
-nerfed big armors
-nerfed weight (so archer doesnt run from the big plate guy that one shot him, i was told)
-nerfed type of damage
-nerfed projectile speed

What s the next step?

* Skurcey goes on another game

[Christo]

What s the next step?

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Joking aside, I made an STF archer alt, it wasn't THAT unplayable, but it feelt kinda limited though.

[chadz]

Good thing you are not whining.

[Tears of Destiny]

Everytime something gets too buffed or too nerfed, I blame the community for making fail biased threads or posts and creating messes...

We do get what we ask for... Scary when you think about it...

But at the end of the day, it gives me more fun then any other mod for Warband.

Also... Original post is rather Ironic...

[Prpavi]

* Skurcey goes on another game

and ater you leave we all give allot of fuck.

[Keshian]

To be frank, the normal battle server archers do need a slight buff because of the dynamics of the goals (you have limited time!) and usually the maps (at leat on NA) are town based which hurts archers.

But on Strategus its becoeming pretty obvious that archers still are oevrly powerful in a  situation where there is NO TIME LIMIT (attackers should only have an hour before having to regroup and try attacking again) and the only real objective in very wide open maps is to kill the most tags.  So the teams that are doing best are the ones that are 40-60% xbowers and archers, which is kind of boring but highly effective.

[Skurcey]

Good thing you are not whining.

At least i dont ask you to nerf other people because they kill me

[Razzen]

To be frank, the normal battle server archers do need a slight buff because of the dynamics of the goals (you have limited time!) and usually the maps (at leat on NA) are town based which hurts archers.

But on Strategus its becoeming pretty obvious that archers still are oevrly powerful in a  situation where there is NO TIME LIMIT (attackers should only have an hour before having to regroup and try attacking again) and the only real objective in very wide open maps is to kill the most tags.  So the teams that are doing best are the ones that are 40-60% xbowers and archers, which is kind of boring but highly effective.

Yeah I mean archers should defitenely be given more time on battle servers so they can run for a longer time and/or camp for longer so the others can get shot all the time, because thats the real fun in the game! Btw I have an archer alt that I have been playing on for about 6 months, I gotta say that I think that archers are fine, except that the speed is a bit stupid, in damage then I think they are still good, I 2-3 shot people alot on my archer when his not even level 30.

[roymorrison]

* Skurcey goes on another game

Can I have your stuff?

[chadz]

At least i dont ask you to nerf other people because they kill me

No, you are asking for your class to be buffed because apparently you can't kill them.
Difference? Can't spot it.

Edit: To clarify, I have no idea how archers currently work, if they are OP or UP or whatever. I just think that the original post is so retarded in whining about whining that I just can't resist.

[Murmillus_Prime]

At least i dont ask you to nerf other people because they kill me

A buff for archers is a nerf for everyone else.

[Razzen]

No, you are asking for your class to be buffed because apparently you can't kill them.
Difference? Can't spot it.

Edit: To clarify, I have no idea how archers currently work, if they are OP or UP or whatever. I just think that the original post is so retarded in whining about whining that I just can't resist.

Yeah it obviously need to go back to native, where it shoots like a machinegun and then we need to increase the damage and maybe some aim assistance just for Skurcey!

[Babelfish]

Archers are fine.

More then fine actually, now that strategus is live again.

[Dexxtaa]

Can't tell if he means winners or whiners

[Blondin]

I don't think the nerf was based on whining, but more on efficiency.

Do you remember old strat battles?
Did you see big clans battles?
Did you see builin battles?

Ranged are still decisive for the outcome of a battle, and i guess devs wanted to give a chance to other tactics, only solution was a nerf...