Iron Flesh needs some love!

[zagibu]

yeah buff IF, i cant wait to fight throwers with 10PT and 100HP wearing medium armor

Throwers can't really spend points on IF...

[Siiem]

Normally they'd have 70 HP with those stats. +14 HP is not a big deal in this game. That's surviving one extra hit if your opponent has a decent weapon with some power strike, which is a much needed boost for a whole 7 skill points.

It's more then 1 hit. Besides ironfelsh in combination with good armour is allready damn strong. You want those fuckers who are pure str to be like a fkn plated charger?

[Cyclopsided]

It's more then 1 hit. Besides ironfelsh in combination with good armour is allready damn strong. You want those fuckers who are pure str to be like a fkn plated charger?

Wait, you are telling me +10 HP to a guy who has 10 IF is that ridiculous? Now, ok, +20 is a pretty decent chunk (one more hit, or more if the attacker has low PS or a low dmg cut weapon) of hp.
But making it +3 hp rather than +2 HP is perfectly fine. I haven't seen one argument against that small of an increase. You guys probably wouldn't even notice that they had more HP. 

[Beleidiger]

I like the Idea with less Stunning Time and maybe more stamina against Knock Down but +3 Iron Flesh would be fine too!

And if 90% of the Posters here says wy spending Points in Iron Flesh it may really need a buff!

[Timotheusthereal]

3,325 hp per IF = 6 in IF, 20 extra health points with 18 STR. fair!

[Punisher]

I started a topic in the Suggestion Area, maybe that will get the devs attention, feel free to post there.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,1196.0.html

[panderson]

Since my thrower alt has 11 IF, I approve of this.  I need moar hp.

[1slander]

What if IF was an armor modifier.  Like a natural armor + bonus count instead of hit points.  I know it's left field but it makes sense to me.  That way a high level in IF would actually see a naked peasant having natural armor resistance.  Not really a relative referance but for example.

[zagibu]

Bumping due to ongoing IF uselessness.

[Peasant_Woman]

Thats not just a bump...That might just be a full blown

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All jokes aside, buff IF to +3 hp and be snappy about it. I might have learned python and done it myself in the time since this threads creation haha.

[Vkvkvk]

Bumping due to ongoing IF uselessness.

How is IF useless in any way or form? If it was useless, people wouldn't stack that shit and use all their skill points in it, I don't know for EU but in NA, people pretty much Max IF so most of the strenght builds have 7-9 IF easily ontop of their loomed heavy armor, so they take a ridiculous amount of hits due to 7-9 IF and average 65 body armor and above.

If Ironflesh was useless, people wouldn't level it up over WM, which they do, if Ironflesh is useless and people max it over WM, then WM is totally worthless.

Also jesus christ, that necro is over a year old, don't bring that shit back.

[Bobthehero]

Feel free to buff, or don't

[TugBoat]

I agree to a certain extent. I think that str builds especially 2hs are very vulnerable to throws, couched lances, arrows, crossbows, it would be nice to be able to take more ranged hits

[zagibu]

I have 10 IF and barely notice any difference to 0 IF. Any skill at level 10 should be worlds apart from 0. Worlds.

[ArchonAlarion]

What if IF was an armor modifier.  Like a natural armor + bonus count instead of hit points.  I know it's left field but it makes sense to me.  That way a high level in IF would actually see a naked peasant having natural armor resistance.  Not really a relative referance but for example.

yeah that's what IF really should be. STR increases your body mass, IF would be the toughness of your skin and general resistance to pain.