Ironflesh needs to be changed

[Punisher]

In it's current form Ironflesh is utterly useless, you gain way more advantages by converting the extra skillpoints or putting them in a secondary skill, like power throw. This has already been discussed in this topic but I doubt the devs read the general discussion section considering the massive ammount of spam/whining threads over there.

From my perspective there are 2 ways Ironflesh can be fixed: either increase it's HP bonus, I think +3 HP/IF point would be a fair amount, either make it increase armor instead of HP (it's called IRONflesh after all), +1 armor/IF point would be fair. Ironflesh was somewhat useful for plate-wearers pre-patch, with all the damage reduction but now nobody wears plate anymore so a change is in order.

[Mak33]

Why don't we just do-away with ironflesh completely?

[Punisher]

Bump for justice. Make IF +3 HP

[Ujin]

bump

[Armpit_Sweat]

In it's current form Ironflesh is utterly useless, you gain way more advantages by converting the extra skillpoints or putting them in a secondary skill, like power throw. This has already been discussed in this topic but I doubt the devs read the general discussion section considering the massive ammount of spam/whining threads over there.

From my perspective there are 2 ways Ironflesh can be fixed: either increase it's HP bonus, I think +3 HP/IF point would be a fair amount, either make it increase armor instead of HP (it's called IRONflesh after all), +1 armor/IF point would be fair. Ironflesh was somewhat useful for plate-wearers pre-patch, with all the damage reduction but now nobody wears plate anymore so a change is in order.

Great idea!

[Punisher]

I asked Paul about this and he said the only way it can be changed is to make 1 IF point on website be 2 IF in-game. It can't add armor, that would need changing the game mechanics.

So I support this idea, make 1 point in IF on website be 2 points in-game

[Cepeshi]

+1 totally, Ironflesh needs some love so i could start putting points in there instead of turning them for more STR

edit: wrong verb used and no, not that good in english, but dont want to look like idiot

[Rumblood]

In it's current form Ironflesh is utterly useless, you gain way more advantages by converting the extra skillpoints or putting them in a secondary skill, like power throw. This has already been discussed in this topic but I doubt the devs read the general discussion section considering the massive ammount of spam/whining threads over there.

From my perspective there are 2 ways Ironflesh can be fixed: either increase it's HP bonus, I think +3 HP/IF point would be a fair amount, either make it increase armor instead of HP (it's called IRONflesh after all), +1 armor/IF point would be fair. Ironflesh was somewhat useful for plate-wearers pre-patch, with all the damage reduction but now nobody wears plate anymore so a change is in order.

Yep

[Cyclopsided]

I whole heartedly support this.

[justme]

+1

[Kafein]

I suggest to people saying "why don't we delete it", why don't we delete athletics or weapon master ?

Totally in favor of this, 3 hp per IF still seems low compared to one point for each str. It's a skill afterall and should be as useful as power strike for example.

[Matey]

I asked Paul about this and he said the only way it can be changed is to make 1 IF point on website be 2 IF in-game. It can't add armor, that would need changing the game mechanics.

So I support this idea, make 1 point in IF on website be 2 points in-game

that could be good if for example you need 6 str for 1 if... but you get 4hp. you need 12 str for 2... but you get 8hp. it sounds about the same as now... except that it takes half as many skill points for the same benefit... which makes it a lot more justifiable to put the points in and yet since you cant have 10if for 40hp, it will stop people becoming ungodly meat tanks.

so yeah
1if per 6str. 4hp per 1 if.

[The_Newer_Wind]

FULL and complete support on this. Just buff it no more stat changes nothing fancy just make it +3 hp, thats it not much, if they have 10 if thats 30 extra hit points witch is just about 2 or 1 hits with a normal weapon, can be the difference of life and death.

[Punisher]

Bump for justice.

[bruce]

I disagree about its uselessness, but eh yes, it is "underpowered" compared to some other skills available.