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Lower upkeep on horses?

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 11:54:52 pm »
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Well you're either losing shit loads of money...and so have lots in reserve. Or are just incredibly lucky with multipliers. Apparently you can only sustain 48000 equipment and break even if you have a win/loss streak of 50-50 on the servers. And unless you are lucky, or play small servers and drag the game out. Then you are just trolling.

And considering your horse lancer nerf thread...you are probably just a troll.

around 1000-15000 since 3-4 months ,  EU1 or pecores..
Whos the troll?
You dosnt know anythings about this basic upkeep system.
Lets just say,  crpg economy is pure communism. Praise comrade chadz  .The correct money quantity is  important. Less is more....
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2011, 12:47:09 am »
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if I choose to go in normal gear

Palfrey
Heavy lance
Heraldic mail with tabard
Mail chausses
Mail guantlets
Mighty Poleaxe

in total if it breaks it will cost me around 1.2K plus (over 2K if the poleaxe breaks  :evil: )

now if I go in my heavy gear

Plated charger
Milanese Plate
Milanese Sallet
Shynbaulds
Plate Mittens
Mighty Poleaxe

now im not one of the people who have 100's of thousands of K sitting in my pocket I rarely get over 30K and keep it there, soI want to keep the little ammount I do have but I roughly worked out that if this breaks it will cost between 12K plus to repair these items before it would cost around 7K-8K. Its a big jump and even those who have a shit tone of money laying around will soon be broke by this upkeep.
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2011, 12:31:29 pm »
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Thirdly, the lance speed got increased, now if I understand it correctly, the slower a weapon the more the speed bonus, and speed bonus is a lancers bread and butter.
Haha, that's correct.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2011, 12:41:27 pm by Paul »

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2011, 12:38:34 pm »
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Horses are cheap as they are now. Breaks every 15-20th round, basically only item with no upkeep, just like the pre upkeep patch. That's why there are so many armored horses on the battlefield.

Armor and weapons brake chance seems so much higher. Paying 1.6k for destrier every 10th round (if you're unlucky) is way better than paying 4-6 times 750 gold  per 10 rounds for xbow.

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2011, 02:05:08 pm »
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i'm down 50,000... :cry:
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2011, 04:57:08 pm »
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Horses are cheap as they are now. Breaks every 15-20th round, basically only item with no upkeep, just like the pre upkeep patch. That's why there are so many armored horses on the battlefield.

Armor and weapons brake chance seems so much higher. Paying 1.6k for destrier every 10th round (if you're unlucky) is way better than paying 4-6 times 750 gold  per 10 rounds for xbow.

so far my horse breaks every 2-5 rounds and every time it breaks it cost's 1388 gold to repair. Add that up on top of armor and weapons I think its safe to say we pay more upkeep then any other class.
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2011, 05:54:27 pm »
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Horses are cheap as they are now. Breaks every 15-20th round, basically only item with no upkeep, just like the pre upkeep patch. That's why there are so many armored horses on the battlefield.

Armor and weapons brake chance seems so much higher. Paying 1.6k for destrier every 10th round (if you're unlucky) is way better than paying 4-6 times 750 gold  per 10 rounds for xbow.

Lol have you even touched a horse? They break every 2-5 rounds as Hunter says. Stop spouting random crap.

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2011, 06:06:35 pm »
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The major problem is that you can't rush into cavalry when you start crpg.
With the old upkeep system you strugled to keep your horse when you could finally get it, but now you just have to sell wife and kids just to pay a few rounds of horse riding.

The upkeep should depend a bit on the amount of gold available in the players chest.
When you have a few billion golds you don't care about a 1000+ upkeep, but when you have around 100k you get really pissed off when you lose 10k during 1 map.

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2011, 08:37:01 pm »
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around 1000-15000 since 3-4 months ,  EU1 or pecores..
Whos the troll?
You dosnt know anythings about this basic upkeep system.
Lets just say,  crpg economy is pure communism. Praise comrade chadz  .The correct money quantity is  important. Less is more....

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2011, 10:00:24 pm »
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My infantry equipment:
Kettle Helmet
Byrnie
Mail Guantlets
Mail Chausses
Awlpike
Costs: 18,784 gold

To make it cav, add a rouncey and heavy lance
Cost: 37,496 gold

To have cavalry, with the second cheapest and first usable horse, itcosts me just under double my infantry rquipment. And it's not even heavy armour!

To use with a courser, which is the next horse I'd use (because I'm a western themed knight so why the hell would I use eastern horses?) It costs 48,324
That's the same as above but with a courser instead of a rouncey
As infantry, with 50k worth of equipment, you're unstoppable, look.
Great helm, transitional armour, shynbaulds and gauntlets costs 38255. This leaves you 12,000 to spend on a weapon, which polearm wise will get you anything up to the GLA!
So the balance of power is way out, as you can see.
So lower horse price a bit, because infantry can equip more than double armour for the same price!

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 11:43:11 pm »
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I agree, horse upkeep is rediculous. Especially on heavy horses, which I get less kills when using. -_-

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2011, 11:46:43 pm »
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The developers are caring shit about horses and lancers not knowing what exactly they want to do... It's simply bullshit! First they lower the spped of the heavy lance.. now they raised it again? Well done... Thumbs up for that! You are really clever! Now I can change my MW lance back to the MW HEavy lance again, the one I got before... idiots

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2011, 05:59:34 am »
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Damn idiot devs! They know nothing.

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2011, 06:28:44 am »
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maybe lower the chance of repairs on horses, i made a post not so long ago about been constantly team switched to the losing team, and it seems to be every other map, so i don't make much money as it is, i also mentioned earlier today that the lower tier horses are terrible and not even worth using, if i want to play as cavalry i need a decent horse, i've even been resorting to riding my horse in pretty much peasant gear and repair after repair on my horse is completely fucking me, i've also had to resort to playing as infantry more and more, someone ingame said to me, "well don't ride a horse", well, it kinda sucks that i can't play my prefered class because i can't afford it...
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2011, 06:32:41 am »
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Damn idiot devs! They know nothing.

Darn, you changed it from the horse and... uh... certain shade of color statement... Afraid that the sarcasm would not translate well and be missed by some?  :mrgreen:
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