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What do you think of the new upkeep?

Its too harsh, I cant make any money!
72 (62.1%)
Its just right, nicely balanced!
32 (27.6%)
Not sure?
4 (3.4%)
Its too low, increase further!
8 (6.9%)

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Upkeep
« on: July 18, 2011, 02:00:54 am »
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Does what it says on the tin.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2011, 06:26:04 pm by Kalam »

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 02:04:41 am »
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Try to make polls as encompassing and unbiased as possible.
you have:
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its too harsh, I cant make any money!

Its just right, nicely balanced!

Not sure?
You didn't put "It is too low, increase it further" as an option.
I don't know many who would vote for it, but that is besides the point. Biased polls are ignored by devs automatically.
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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 02:05:47 am »
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Ok we can do that

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 02:17:01 am »
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Better :)
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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 03:39:49 am »
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We aim to please, rather I hope this puts perspective on the enitire upkeep debate  :lol:

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 10:16:21 am »
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horses cost so much :(
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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 10:33:16 am »
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I'm wearing Cuir Boulli, Jason's Mask, Red Wisby, Shynbaulds, Long Arming, Heavy Cav Shield + Destrier/Crossbow (depends on ocassion). Without extra items like horse or xbow I'm slowly but steadily losing money, with extra items I'm losing money big time.

I know it's not medium tier setup but when I came back to the game I had a feeling that now it's posible to use our favourite gear without losing money. Kinda saddens me that's not the case but I'll adapt.

PS. I don't give a damn about balance, not anymore. Came back to have as much fun as posible, not to lick fasaders/pauls ball telling them how awesome they are and their godlike balancing skills.

I admit it, my idea of fun is killing peasants by trampling them, backstabbing them, using OP shit against them and the like.

Best c-rpg = pre upkeep c-rpg :wink:

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 10:36:29 am »
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I'd like a poll option for "a little bit too high, but nothing game-breaking."
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 10:37:36 am »
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"a little bit too high, but nothing game-breaking."

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 10:54:04 am »
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Haven't really done enough testing with gear setups to find my sweet spot like before the patch, so I haven't really made up my mind yet. But leaning towards this..

I'd like a poll option for "a little bit too high, but nothing game-breaking."

No vote yet.

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 12:02:12 pm »
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PS. I don't give a damn about balance, not anymore. Came back to have as much fun as posible, not to lick fasaders/pauls ball telling them how awesome they are and their godlike balancing skills.

i dont remember anyone ever saying the game was properly balanced
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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 12:11:37 pm »
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I'd like a poll option for "a little bit too high, but nothing game-breaking."

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 12:41:19 pm »
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Eh.. I don't know that the poll is going to be too informative:

Seems that a lot of players, newer ones especially, don't really have any solid idea of what upkeep costs on average.  In-game you hear a lot of "I just spent almost all my money buying this longsword, and it broke twice in 15 minutes, and now I'm broke!".  Because.. it is rather a lot of work to dig through the forums to find out the current repair costs, the current % chance of an item's breaking, and then calculate the average upkeep per tick for your equipment setup.

So first and foremost, what we really need is just the very simple addition to the website of an average upkeep indicator on the equipment screen.  (Especially since wpf now affects the chance of breakage.)  Wouldn't hurt to add the per-item average upkeep costs on the buying screen as well.

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 01:03:47 pm »
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i dont remember anyone ever saying the game was properly balanced

I was being sarcastic. Of course it isn't balanced. They use the same balancing "technique" as Blizzard does with WoW which consist of buffing something and nerfing something else (previously buffed) after some period of time. I find that lame, that ain't balancing that's playing with player base and form of trolling.

To balance something you have to find that certain sweet spot and keep it that way, then balance something else in correlation with the first thing you balanced until you achieve best posible balance. But most devs are afraid of their game's becoming boring so they use crappy FOTM system instead of trying to achieve true balance. C-rpg makers do the same thing.

Since this mod is FOTM based and since new patch always brings back something from the past (fotm throwers, fotm archers) I would like to see NO UPKEEP patch, actually I want one patch which would revert things exactly like they were 9 months ago. Make it last 2 months and choose the time when you're gonna "patch" it. I don't mind if patch after that revert things back to how they are now.

Devs, I don't blame for your incompetence (for not being able to balance the mod), I blame you for not being consistent, honest and serious. Trolling is cool, trying to be funny can be cute sometimes but I like serious "Iron Fist" devs way more than bunch of oldmy old friend trolls who know a little coding and are willing to spend their free time on making mods for cool games.

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Re: Upkeep
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 01:05:09 pm »
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Heh upkeep is ruined and only favour people that have a fully set of loomed items rdy for use and sell their remaining heirloom points at the market. the rest of us is fucked and forced to grind gold in rags to wear our medium setups.

This current upkeep rate is rather retarded and don't even help balancing the game people that sell their heirloom points can still afford to wear what ever they like thx to the market while the rest of us struggles.

Anyways i aint playing until chadz make the upkeep the same as pre patch i don't wanna log in to grind 5 maps in a row in peasant rags to wear my Byrnja and nordic warlord helmet and my main weapon its just too fuckin dull and not my style.
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