Meet the Archer and Crossbowwoman!

[Gorath]

25th to 31st july (eu1)
Bow:            12851 (7.52%)
Crossbows:          7599 (4.45%)
Thrown:          2130 (1.25%)
Headshot:          6277 (3.68%)


1st to 7th august (eu1)
Bow:            12010 (7.06%)
Crossbows:          8560 (5.03%)
Thrown:          2067 (1.22%)
Headshot:          6172 (3.63%)


8th to 13th august (eu1)
Bow:             4812 (6.66%)
Crossbows:          3102 (4.29%)
Thrown:           866 (1.20%)
Headshot:          2373 (3.28%)

last week is kind of bad for statistics because of lag or whatever eu1 has usually only about 20ish people online.

Final results?  Nerf bows, Buff throwing, X-bows are fine.

[Tears of Destiny]

Meh, all this means is that throwing is an unpopular class. For this to be effective, we would need statistics on how many of these weapons hit the field VS the kills from said weapons.

[Jambi]

Xbow/xbow builds are retardly overpowered. pew pew 1shot


But hey! Fasader needs it to be this way... otherwise he would suck even more 

Thos statistics are shit anyways. Go play EU 1 on primetime. And count the xbows....

Thing is. Dedicated archers with 0 PS and 0 WPF its very hard too melee, so we try to avoid it

While xbowers either 1 shot... or they finish it off in melee. So the melee kill statistic... does include alot of xbowers as well.

Look at DaveUKR ie.... how many people he finishes of  melee. If the bolt didnt 1 shot them

As an archer. ever tried beating down a medium/heavy armored character with the 0 slot hammer? 

Developers looking at a bunch of numbers... to dictate a nerf/buff, plain retarded

[Mtemtko]

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Xbow/xbow builds are retardly overpowered. pew pew 1shot


But hey! Fasader needs it to be this way... otherwise he would suck even more 

Thos statistics are shit anyways. Go play EU 1 on primetime. And count the xbows....

Thing is. Dedicated archers with 0 PS and 0 WPF its very hard too melee, so we try to avoid it

While xbowers either 1 shot... or they finish it off in melee. So the melee kill statistic... does include alot of xbowers as well.

Look at DaveUKR ie.... how many people he finishes of  melee. If the bolt didnt 1 shot them

As an archer. ever tried beating down a medium/heavy armored character with the 0 slot hammer? 

Developers looking at a bunch of numbers... to dictate a nerf/buff, plain retarded

Your avatar is fucked up. Your argument in invalid.

[Jambi]

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Your avatar is fucked up. Your argument in invalid.

Says the xbower 

[Fraemi]

Kill precentages are meaningless and hardly correlate with balance.

[Mtemtko]

Says the xbower 

I'll make a video of two rounds with MW arbalest and MW steel bolts, you'll see how many people I one shot (0 with anyone that has above 10 armor) at early stage of the round.

[Fasader]

1. people ask for almost useless stats.
2. I post almost useless stats.
3. people say stats are useless.

[Okkam]

Look what I found Mte.

I have a L28 xbowman with nonloomed arbalest+ steel bolts.. the accuracy is almost pinpoint and decent dmg, rarley onehitting anyone with non-peasant armor and with 1h/2h mace its pretty efficent in melee too... today I picked up a MW arbalest+ MW steel bolts on my piker.. made 7 shots, 7 hits 6 kills at short/medium range with 1 wpf.... this thing is a goddamn elephant killer.
Didnt expect looms to make such a difference..

Now Mtemtko uses his own arbalest, and arbalest become underpowered somehow.

[Mtemtko]

Look what I found Mte.
 

Now Mtemtko uses his own arbalest, and arbalest become underpowered somehow.

Where do you see me claim that arbalests are UP, wtf okkam?
Also when I picked up that arbalest it was mid-end of the match, everyone was pretty much dead,now i'm talking about oneshots from a round start where people still have full hp.

[Malaclypse]

Thing is. Dedicated archers with 0 PS and 0 WPF its very hard too melee, so we try to avoid it

What do you mean by dedicated, I guess? My favorite archer build is 18/18, favoring a smaller, faster firing bow, having 6 points in Powerdraw, Athletics, Weapon Master, and Power Strike and the remainder in IF or whatever, putting all prof into archery. Fast firing, decently hard hitting, 1 slot bow + 2 quivers + 1slot (I preferred 1hand iberian mace) melee = viable at range against light to high medium armor wearers, viable in melee with 6ps and blunt.

[Dezilagel]

What do you mean by dedicated, I guess? My favorite archer build is 18/18, favoring a smaller, faster firing bow, having 6 points in Powerdraw, Athletics, Weapon Master, and Power Strike and the remainder in IF or whatever, putting all prof into archery. Fast firing, decently hard hitting, 1 slot bow + 2 quivers + 1slot (I preferred 1hand iberian mace) melee = viable at range against light to high medium armor wearers, viable in melee with 6ps and blunt.

This.

Also, with the new patch ranged/melee "hybrids" have become, in a sense, more powerful.

The changes to armor values "buffed" health. Considering that you now get less glances, but also less damage per hit, being low on health is now more of a disadvantage. Getting your opponent low with ranged, and then finishing him off with melee is now a great tactic, and much less boring than running for 5 mins yelling "BUT I'M SUPPORT!!!oneoneone"

[Okkam]

This.

Also, with the new patch ranged/melee "hybrids" have become, in a sense, more powerful.

The changes to armor values "buffed" health. Considering that you now get less glances, but also less damage per hit, being low on health is now more of a disadvantage. Getting your opponent low with ranged, and then finishing him off with melee is now a great tactic, and much less boring than running for 5 mins yelling "BUT I'M SUPPORT!!!oneoneone"

Again twisted logic.

1. If you need more hits to kill opponent, i can't name it Buff.
2. If you loose melee fight to ranged with 1 wpf it is your own fault.
3. There are no Main or Support class in cRPG. There are no class at all. 

[Fasader]

Look what I found Mte.
 

Now Mtemtko uses his own arbalest, and arbalest become underpowered somehow.

OH SNAP.

[Gorath]

Thos statistics are shit anyways. Go play EU 1 on primetime. And count the xbows....

So "This raw data and math is shit.  Instead you should use this anecdotal evidence to base claims by."