Meet the Archer and Crossbowwoman!

[LordRichrich]

Can people stop saying that arblast can 1 shot people in light armour? I have no looms and I can't 1 shot an archer who's wearing the nord noble out fit which only has about 8 armour or something

[kongxinga]

No way... You posted the correct differences between a bow and a crossbow! This only happens on these forums once every two months, I better mark this moment down on the calendar.

EDIT: For the record, the official NA servers use the same maps as EU does, though I am hoping to remove a select few of them... Very few NA players like that wooden fort map with the two towers connected by a bridge.

I like to take your word for it, but I have never seen the open Eu field maps on NA, and there are some truly bad "slap some buildings together, add clutter, add more clutter just to reduce framerate" maps that exist on NA that thankfully never appear on EU.

[Tears of Destiny]

I like to take your word for it, but I have never seen the open Eu field maps on NA, and there are some truly bad "slap some buildings together, add clutter, add more clutter just to reduce framerate" maps that exist on NA that thankfully never appear on EU.

Try the Official NA Servers.

[kongxinga]

Na Crpg ie the ATS servers are the official ones right? EU1 is one of the official EU ones right? Difference in map lineup is like night and day, unless it changed very recently.

*edit* I take that back. confused crpg NA ie ats with the official ones, whoops.

*ninjaed by you , thanks, now I have a place to escape the ats lineup.

[Tears of Destiny]

CRPG NA ie the ATS servers are the official ones right? EU1 is one of the officla EU ones right? Difference in map lineup is like night and day, unless it changed very recently.

No. ATS servers are not the official servers.

the official servers use the same naming conventions as the EU official servers.

NA_cRPG_1, NA_cRPG_2, NA_cRPG_3, NA_cRPG_6 (Battle, Siege, Strategus, DTV).

[Seawied]

Can people stop saying that arblast can 1 shot people in light armour? I have no looms and I can't 1 shot an archer who's wearing the nord noble out fit which only has about 8 armour or something

Ya, I get 1 shot all the time on my lightly armored characters.

[Gorath]

Ya, I get 1 shot all the time on my lightly armored characters.

How?  Ask Bale, Balb, a few LLJK guys, or anyone else on the official NA-1 battle server this morning.  I was running around with an arbalest xbow for lulz at 1 wpf (which btw has shitty accuracy compared to the 150 I'm used to) and it was taking me 2-3 shots to kill anyone barring a headshot.

[Nemeth]

Ya, I get 1 shot all the time on my lightly armored characters.

Your lightly armor characters are a fail characters then and deserve to be one shot. I can't one shot lightly armoured archers with mw arbalest and +2 bolts unles point blank (and usually not even then).

[Seawied]

 

How? It happens. Its a statistical possibility. Saying stuff like "your lightly armor characters are fail characters then" makes no logical sense whatsoever.

[Darkkarma]

And the xbowmen can jump and shoot accurately unlike an archer.  The rus bow would not have been comparative at all for damage on anything mid-tier armor or above (like 1/10th health isntead of the 45-55% shown.)  I see xbowmen dodge all the time and its really nice to be able to reload at leisure behind a crenellation/wall/tree/shielder/etc. and then pop out to shoot only when you choose to rather than having to go immediately as you draw back your bow wihtin a 1/4 second to shoot accurately.  Much harder to dodge a fast travelling xbow bolt now than a slow moving arrow.  May have been closer to balanced pre-last patch, but certainly not now.

As over done as this is, how do you guys do in the rain? How much easier is it for you to kite melee guys even as a longbowman? I sure can't do it without running around for so long that I get poll kicked or accused of delaying. The long bow, while slower is still very comparable to the Arbalest. it also has a much better rate of fire with a little over half the damage still. Also, Xbows (especially the higher end ones) are very circumstantial not only due to weather, but also by maps. Archers will always be more versatile than Xbowmen because of the fact that you can reload on the move while we can't. Reloading my bow in an open field usually means a frustrating, painful death. Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but don't bows now get more fall damage from arking your shots?

[Nemeth]

How? It happens. Its a statistical possibility. Saying stuff like "your lightly armor characters are fail characters then" makes no logical sense whatsoever.

Yes, it happens. But if it happens to you "all the time", then your build fails or you intetionally gimp yeself. I have a 9/30 character that runs around in gambeson and dies in one hit from almost anything, even a bow if the arrow catches me running at him at full speed. I die at that character in one hit all the time but I epxected that when i created it and deal with it. Do I blame the weapons for being OP because it kills me in one hit? No.

[Elerion]

I put damage tests in the first post specifically to avoid bullshit discussions like this
"It happens!"
"NUH UH!"

The shot in the first post was made at short-medium range against a character with 55 hp, tribal warrior outfit and chain mittens. I took 3 shots. One killed him, one left him with ~10% hp, one had the result pictured (~1% hp). This was with unloomed arbalest and steel bolts.

Fact:
The unloomed Arbalest w/Steel Bolts can one-shot characters in light armor (~30 armor), but will not always do so. It's impossible to get more specific without specifying conditions much more precisely.

[DumpsterNerd]

Cool well thought out post/argument.  If you really wanna go another extra mile, you should combine throwers into the mix.  I realize they're a different breed, but they fire faster than archers, they do more damage, and they have 0 accuracy bloom.


Personally, I think archers need a buff in the sense that it's REALLY hard and REALLY inaccurate to use a bow compared to xbow/throwing.  Also bows do shit damage vs plate unless you're using a longbow.  To the question is : Why be an archer?  I found that out, and am looming an arbalest for my next char.

[Elerion]

No, throwing is not comparable. It has a different function altogether.

[Ronin]

I am working on my archer (main) character to retire. Only 2.5 million xp left. What I do is throwing stones on horseback, fisting enemies on the battlefield to make them confuse while I'm naked, using a decent 1hander weapon with a hide covered shield, wearing heavy armor and supporting my team with a light lance. But definetely not archery. Because it is so boringly, uneffective and consumes large amount of gold in exchange.