Meet the Archer and Crossbowwoman!

[Magikarp]

Statistics mean nothing when they do not support your opinion.
Have you played anything outside Warband?  Are you aware how common it is for a game to have a 'slow but lethal' weapon?  Especially games which have a leaning to realism.  Warband, and crpg do have a leaning to realism.  Mimicking the historical lethality of the xbow is entirely justified, especially when they mimic the lethality of melee combat.  As I have said to you before, and you have always ignored, invest in shield.  You will have no difficulty getting in close.  I don't hold to nerfing a class because of your utter lack of practicality or inability to adapt.
It's your own fault you get shot.

1. They do, unless they are irrelevant.
2. Yes ofc I played other games. However there isn't any game out there like warband, so you can't make comparisons.
3. I play every single class ingame, when I am not choosing for a shield skill investmen, I know I will be more vulnerable to ranged classes. You are again completely missing the points I've made, you are the one ignoring me. Crossbows are dealing too much damage in one shot with too much accuracy. The accuracy isn't a problem, but the damage needs tweaking.

[MadJackMcMad]

Exquisite arbalest, steel bolts (91p) vs 53 body armour.

Distance = 15m

Health after each shot.

10%
Kill
15%
20%
40%
30%
30%
20%
5%
20%

This is too much, is it?

[Bulzur]

Exquisite arbalest, steel bolts (91p) vs 53 body armour.

Distance = 15m

Health after each shot.

10%
Kill
15%
20%
40%
30%
30%
20%
5%
20%

This is too much, is it?

53 body armor and 8 IF 24 Str ? 
The percentage of health remaining is irrelevant if you don't tell us how much life the guy had in the beginning. 

[Magikarp]

53 body armor and 8 IF 24 Str ? 
The percentage of health remaining is irrelevant if you don't tell us how much life the guy had in the beginning. 

Never seen This MadJack guy play on EU, so I guess he's from NA where all those silly players go for strength builds.

[MadJackMcMad]

0 Ironflesh, 15 strength.  Testing subject Plazek.

I do not use MadJackMcMad anymore, I use Grumpy.

[RagnarLodbroke]

Never seen This MadJack guy play on EU, so I guess he's from NA where all those silly players go for strength builds.

He is called 22nd_grumpy on EU!

Xbows are OP, Archers are UP, enough said!

[Nemeth]

You shoot faster = then the xbow  : either way you will never see a xbow nerf aslong as Fasader is on the dev team no point in trying.

Well last time a checked xbows got speed nerf on hierlooms, so they made the slowest weapon in game even more slow. I believe Fasaderp is still the head of the balance team. I'm looking forward to your next random shout.
Damage nerf on crossbows is kind of tricky situation imho. Arbalest can kill most guys in 2 shots, under ideal circumstances. Any nerf that would make it kill in 3+ shots actually means 50%+ nerf to them. If you look at it in melee perspective, imagine that instead of regular 3 (average) hits with your two hander, you would need 5+ hits to kill someone. That is kind of ridiculous.

[Lordark]

Xbows are GREAT defensive items. Bows are more offensive. You can shoot 2 to 3 timer faster then a xbowman so archers are a superior supressive weapon. Most maps on NA are closed city maps that FAVOR xbowmen because they have more defensive cover. On EU I think thier are more OPEN maps that favor an archer and his superior supressive powers. Start bitching at NA server owners to put more OPEN maps! I also prefer open maps because I like Horses! Remember this game is called MOUNT and blade!

[Tears of Destiny]

Xbows are GREAT defensive items. Bows are more offensive. You can shoot 2 to 3 timer faster then a xbowman so archers are a superior supressive weapon. Most maps on NA are closed city maps that FAVOR xbowmen because they have more defensive cover. On EU I think thier are more OPEN maps that favor an archer and his superior supressive powers. Start bitching at NA server owners to put more OPEN maps! I also prefer open maps because I like Horses! Remember this game is called MOUNT and blade!

No way... You posted the correct differences between a bow and a crossbow! This only happens on these forums once every two months, I better mark this moment down on the calendar.

EDIT: For the record, the official NA servers use the same maps as EU does, though I am hoping to remove a select few of them... Very few NA players like that wooden fort map with the two towers connected by a bridge.

[Lordark]

Thanks DOOD!

[Remy]

Very few NA players like that wooden fort map with the two towers connected by a bridge.

For some reason my FPS on that map falls dramatically and I find I leave when that map shows up in Europe.

[Tzar]

Hmn why havent throwing been mentioned....

Xbows are the only ranged my old friendotry thats OP

[Magikarp]

Hmn why havent throwing been mentioned....

Xbows are the only ranged my old friendotry thats OP

Because throwing is fine and actually not meant for medium to long range combat.

[Tzar]

With mw war darts and 7 pt i had to use 7 war darts on guy in Blue Tunic over Mail thats retarded

[Tears of Destiny]

With mw war darts and 7 pt i had to use 7 war darts on guy in Blue Tunic over Mail thats retarded

This thread is comparing long range classes, not the close in shotgun style of throwing that at best can be used at medium range.

We do have other throwing threads if you would care to venture into those.