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40 degrees turning for HA?

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Offline Patricia

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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2011, 12:53:26 am »
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I really doubt they can change the degree for individual weapons.

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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2011, 03:20:17 pm »
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Because horse archers aren't putting the full weight of a one-hit lance thrust on their spine when they turn around to shoot.

i guess you have vast experience with how lancing worked so you probably know what your saying, and showing a vid where guy demonstrates lancer attacks in all the different angles wont probably mean anything in this debate

thanks for putting "realistic" fix in a game filled with unrealistic things such as jumping attacks, circling around inf, 360 spin thrusts, archer jump turn over shots, tip of polearms stopping horses when hit in front even from sides etc etc


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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2011, 03:27:40 pm »
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Horse archers should be given more degree of freedom on the horse compared to lancers. That was so in real life, so should be expected in the game.

If you like to see more, u may search "horse archery back shots" in various cultures' histories. I recommend Turkish and Mughal sources.

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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2011, 03:28:26 pm »
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+ wooki something you forgot to mention:
HA cant fire on the left side
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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2011, 03:29:02 pm »
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If one sucks then the other should suck too. This remembers me communism :)

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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2011, 03:38:16 pm »
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The only thing i find funny about HA, is that they NEED to use both hands for their bow (in contrary of lancers or 1handers/2handers with no shield, even with a shield you could say he's holding the shield and the whatever-the-word-in-english-is of the horse), but providing the horse and the riding skill is the same, HA have no malus in riding, or melee cav have no bonus in riding.

Don't tell me this crap about HA used their knees to move the horse, wich is reflected in the riding skill. I know this, and it's definitely true. But providing the SAME riding skill, cav with one free hand should have a bonus to their riding.

What do you think ? Common sense ?
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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2011, 03:46:00 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dowp7zmM72k

What is this video suppose to show us :
-that the kid shoots on his left only
-that the kid shoots at an angle of approximately 40°
-that the kid holds at most 7 arrows on horseback
-that the horse doesn't go at full speed, nor does insane turn WHILE the kid is shooting
-it is just irrelevant
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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2011, 03:55:05 pm »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthian_shot

I think in the beginning Mount&Blade was morel like a mounted archery simulator and Armagan and friends put alot of effort in it to get it right.
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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2011, 03:59:59 pm »
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seriously Bulzur, your (as in plural) allready made nerf
-precision
-damage
-speed shot
-arrow speed
-weight of arrows

HA cost at least 8 skill point than a pure inf. So buy a shield, and use it, or stay at home, cultivate potato, and tell your grand childrens how a great warrion you could have been if all but your class had been nerfed ..... 
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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2011, 04:07:33 pm »
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seriously Bulzur, your (as in plural) allready made nerf
-precision
-damage
-speed shot
-arrow speed
-weight of arrows

HA cost at least 8 skill point than a pure inf. So buy a shield, and use it, or stay at home, cultivate potato, and tell your grand childrens how a great warrion you could have been if all but your class had been nerfed .....
HA HA HA HA HA !
I'm an archer.  :mrgreen:
I was just wondering through all thoses suggestions and adding my thoughts.
This one is kind of... unrealistic/unbalanced/stupid, but it's true that providing the same riding skill, i don't really understand why people with one free hand are not more efficient (in riding skill) than thoses with none. As simple as that.
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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2011, 05:14:04 pm »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthian_shot

I think in the beginning Mount&Blade was morel like a mounted archery simulator and Armagan and friends put alot of effort in it to get it right.

and than all the people said fuck it lets drop the "mount" part...

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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2011, 05:51:23 pm »
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i guess you have vast experience with how lancing worked so you probably know what your saying, and showing a vid where guy demonstrates lancer attacks in all the different angles wont probably mean anything in this debate

On a stationary horse with a 'lance' that amounts to a toothpick?  :lol: Go out and try and hit anything to the side while actually riding the horse and make a youtube vid. I'll be looking forward to it in failblog :D
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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2011, 06:06:44 pm »
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On a stationary horse with a 'lance' that amounts to a toothpick?  :lol: Go out and try and hit anything to the side while actually riding the horse and make a youtube vid. I'll be looking forward to it in failblog :D

i tried to poke a horse with a stick that was on full speed from a side but it didnt get stopped instantly ;/ reality is a bitch

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Re: Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2011, 06:13:00 pm »
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So did I. It hit his magnetic shield.

Oh, real life, right.

As for the topic. I've never played a horse archer and hate them. But no, this makes no sense. They should be able to shoot in a wide arc.