Horse Archers get 40 Degrees of turn as well

[Wookimonsta]

Since lancers get this, why shouldnt Horse Archers?
If I cant turn my whole body, how come HAs can?

[okiN]

Because horse archers aren't putting the full weight of a one-hit lance thrust on their spine when they turn around to shoot.

[Wookimonsta]

Because horse archers aren't putting the full weight of a one-hit lance thrust on their spine when they turn around to shoot.

i am confused... i look at the lance thrust, most of it seems to come from the arm.
alternatively, give much faster ability to couch, so we can couch more often.

[Patricia]

i am confused... i look at the lance thrust, most of it seems to come from the arm.
alternatively, give much faster ability to couch, so we can couch more often.

I fucking DARE you to try and stab at someone on a fucking 90 degree angle thrust.

In real life Couches usually broke the fuck out of your lance too, so if anything we should reduce the speed at which lances can CHAINFUCKINGCOUCHES already.

[Wookimonsta]

I fucking DARE you to try and stab at someone on a fucking 90 degree angle thrust.

In real life Couches usually broke the fuck out of your lance too, so if anything we should reduce the speed at which lances can CHAINFUCKINGCOUCHES already.

guys... realism arguments have long since been established as useless. also, if you wanna talk realism, i dare you to put on chain armor and get charged by a full sized horse, k? and then just get up and walk away

also, one shotting people happens ALOT less, it only works for me on low armor targets
lastly, i dont want full turning ability back, but more than 40 degrees would be nice

[Patricia]

Except 40 degrees actually makes sense.

And couching is already a free kill on anyone that doesn't have a shield if you know how to aim, how would it be fair to reduce the cooldown?

[Wookimonsta]

Except 40 degrees actually makes sense.

And couching is already a free kill on anyone that doesn't have a shield if you know how to aim, how would it be fair to reduce the cooldown?

well, whats the reason for cooldown? is it stamina? are you too tired to do it again?

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

Except 40 degrees actually makes sense.

And couching is already a free kill on anyone that doesn't have a shield if you know how to aim, how would it be fair to reduce the cooldown?

If you know how to aim?

if your target is dumb more like 

[taimic]

i want my light lance to have at least 80° what do i have a lighter lance for if i cant move around more-.-

[Wookimonsta]

at least for couchable only lances itd be nice if i could do it more often

[Patricia]

well, whats the reason for cooldown? is it stamina? are you too tired to do it again?

Reason for cooldown is so that instead of skilllessly insta-killing 5 guys in a row, that can't do shit about it if the cavalry knows how to aim and if they have no shield, in 5 seconds, you can only kill 1 in 5 seconds.

[Wookimonsta]

Reason for cooldown is so that instead of skilllessly insta-killing 5 guys in a row, that can't do shit about it if the cavalry knows how to aim and if they have no shield, in 5 seconds, you can only kill 1 in 5 seconds.

even with less cooldown, you couldnt insta kill5 guys. you need a certain speed to do a couch, low speed couch does a lot less damage. also, just by running away, you absorb alot of the damage the couched lance does since speed bonus gets diminished.
not to mention you have to lower the lance and this actually takes alot of distance on a fast horse.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

Because HA's and lancers are not the same.

[Lichen]

It's debatable the typical angle a RL horse archer could twist to the left and still shoot but holding and drawing a bow is much different than thrusting with a lance. Horse archers already can't shoot to their right side which is realistic (assuming they are right handed, the reverse would be true if left handed). Really 'thrusting' with a lance is not very realistic at all as far as I'm aware but I understand there needs to be a balance of fun & realism. If we are talking how RL cav fought my guess is many cav in a real battle scenario were likely 1 handed with maces, flails, swords, spear throwing etc (I'm no expert historian though). I even heard of knights on cav with crossbows (apparently they were the more elite troops). 

[Mithus]

they would at least
put 60 degree to light lance
 50 to lance
and 45 to heavy lance.