Limit 2 hand swing speed

[UrLukur]

This is actually a pet peeve of mine.  With most 1h'd weapons it's actually detrimental to "facehug" as the weapon will glance much much more (especially thrusts and overheads).  You really have to use the "sweet spot" when using a 1her.  However on my 2her and my polearm character (and you can see other 2h/pole guys do this as well) it's actually better for me to facehug people as I hit them sooner in the animation and all I have to do is aim downwards a little bit towards the feet.  It's annoying that 2hers/pole guys are more effective facehuggers than those of us with 100 or less reach (fucking 64 reach on some weapons  )

Animations and damage did it. 2h and poles have them better and deal more damage so are less affected with sweet spots.

[Xant]

Animations and damage did it. 2h and poles have them better and deal more damage so are less affected with sweet spots.

1h is op

[UrLukur]

1h is op

How so ?

[Ninja_Khorin]

The only problem I have with 1h is their hard to see animations and headshot swing. They are annoying, but I can live with it.

[UrLukur]

The only problem I have with 1h is their hard to see animations and headshot swing. They are annoying, but I can live with it.

Only with short weapons, longer are telegraphed like hell. That headshotswing have extremelly low range.

[Mouse]

2H/Polearms do not swing too fast. They are fine. As mentioned above their length telegraphs their swings so they're easier to deal with in some ways than really short weapons. I play both 1H/shield and archer and the only balance issue here that I've seen is spammable crush through on the bar mace. The only players who actually scare me with 2H/Polearms are the players who would still scare me even if they were naked with just a flanged mace. And all of them play Native.

[Punisher]

I suggest all people who keep whining about 2H still being OP, go make a 2H and see how easy it is to survive and top the scoreboard with all the throwing shit that flies around, with no shield and a 0 IF agi build.

In duels 2H are faster, as they should be and you might have problems dealing with them if you keep your shield up, but with the shield on your back a 1H can easily outspam a 2H, maybe except crazy 27 agi katana builds. If I duel a 1H with no shield that knows how to play I can do nothing against him, short weapons are a lot harder to block so once I am facehugged I'm dead; can't kite him either as most 1H'ers have high athletics as well.

[Joxer]

Swing speed on most weapons is pretty much ok. However the recovery time from a swing could use tuning based on the weight of the weapon. STR might also be included in this calculation. Only light weapons such as most 1h should be 'spammable' weapons.

[Xant]

Nnnnnnnnnno.

[Rumblood]

Hey whiny 1 hander! A 2h'er isn't out spamming your 1h weapon. Your weapon speed is 97 or 103 or whatever right? But what's that in your other hand? That shield you ask? What about it? Well ITS speed is 61! Guess what? It matters! What? Shield speed matters you say? Craziness! I can swing and block at the same time!

No, you can't. Put a shield in front of your face and try to swing a sword through it to hit what is on the other side. Guess what? You have to lower your shield and.........it takes time to do that! Don't like it? Drop the Steel Buckler and grab an Elite Cavalry Shield instead. If you are still having problems, well....your mother lied to you when she said you were just as good as the rest of those boys 

[Ronish]

The swing speed is a bit crazy. Been in fights where I cannot swing at all without my opponent hitting first (no what I block or kick).

[Xant]

The swing speed is a bit crazy. Been in fights where I cannot swing at all without my opponent hitting first (no what I block or kick).

Then, good sir, you were outskilled.

[IG_Saint]

Then, good sir, you were outskilled.

or outpinged.

[UrLukur]

or outpinged.

or outbugged, or outlagged.

[Gorath]

I can swing and block at the same time!
No, you can't. Put a shield in front of your face and try to swing a sword through it to hit what is on the other side. Guess what? You have to lower your shield and.........it takes time to do that!

lol, Amusingly phrased, but completely wrong if you're referring to what is possible IRL with sword and board combat.