Fellow fans,
i think we need a complete reset of all chars to cleansen the market and enable the crowd to start anew. Maybe give each player 5 gold for each generation he had.
At the same time, INCREASE XP-gain by increasing the amounts of MULTIPLIER (maybe up to 10). This will enforce teamplay and enable players to level up more quickly, if they fight well. So every heirloom point would be earned.
This "feature" should start with the ressurection of strategus to enable an even basis for all players to act.
Please discuss the pro`s and con`s of this.
Everyone has its masterwork weapon already and swims in gold, this needs to change. The prices at the marketplace are ridiculous, thus.
For a new start, for all new players, for more fun for all of us!
Please discuss the pro`s and con`s of this.
Fellow fans,
i think we need a complete reset of all chars to cleansen the market and enable the crowd to start anew. Maybe give each player 5 gold for each generation he had.
At the same time, INCREASE XP-gain by increasing the amounts of MULTIPLIER (maybe up to 10). This will enforce teamplay and enable players to level up more quickly, if they fight well. So every heirloom point would be earned.
This "feature" should start with the ressurection of strategus to enable an even basis for all players to act.
Please discuss the pro`s and con`s of this.
Everyone has its masterwork weapon already and swims in gold, this needs to change. The prices at the marketplace are ridiculous, thus.
For a new start, for all new players, for more fun for all of us!
how about no
Yeh ofc the pro's... wait there are no pros ....Most people with a grind mentality think like this.
This is a really stupid suggestion..most of the players invested hundreds and hundreds of hours in their chars (me too)... you cant reset them.
If you DO that none of the "old" player would play crpg much longer ...
Most people with a grind mentality think like this.
When you realise it's about the journey, maybe you'll change your opinion. :)
I'm gen7 and have 2 +3 items, yet I wouldn't care if it got wiped, because I had fun doing it. It doesn't matter if he wipes or not unless you crutch on character tbh. I don't advocate a wipe, but saying NO just because you put tons of hours into your char makes me laught, you should go back to grinding instead of having fun imho.
I worked really hard for my char and my heirlooms...why it should be a good idea to reset them ???I never said it's a good idea.
His argues doesnt work...it looks like hes a new player and if he want to be a good crpg player he have to invest time to get heirlooms. Thats how it works...there are always better players than you if you just start with a game. This gold thing isnt a really problem, if other players can get enough gold (or too much maybe) you can get this too. This should be a topic in the balance section
I never said it's a good idea.maybe gringing and getting better is fun for me ?? :P :D
I said you're dumb for grinding instead of having fun and using it as an argument.
Everyone has its masterwork weapon already and swims in gold, this needs to change. The prices at the marketplace are ridiculous, thus.Now this is really funny. You think if all heirlooms are taken away the prices will go down? :lol:
as others said: bad idea. also I'm gen two for months now and have fun nonetheless. Many MW items and high gens ar not necessary to have fun in this game.well said +1
Now this is really funny. You think if all heirlooms are taken away the prices will go down? :lol:
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With all due respect, mine is better.
That must have taken some work, +1 for creativity.
Glaurung lache la boisson sti... t pas ben
I'm one of those who thinks that people that put time in a game like this should have an edge somehow with gear or something else... soooo no i don't want a reset at all, it took me a long time to get to my lil gen 7 and i deserve every looms i got, i enjoyed the grind for some time but now i just play this for the fun of it, yet i would be very pissed if they decided to destroy all the effort i put into getting my stuff/gen.
I think a bunch of people like Glaurung don't understand that the point of an RPG (cRPG) is to grind to some extent like in every other game of the same kind to be more and more powerful.. Remove that and we might as well start playing native again.
My 2 cents
I think a bunch of people like Glaurung don't understand that the point of an RPG (cRPG) is to grind to some extent like in every other game of the same kind to be more and more powerful.. Remove that and we might as well start playing native again.
Serious answer below;
Too many players have spent too much time grinding for percieved bonuses which in reality affect combat very little if at all and have become too attached to the prefixes on their weapons and armors to let some new player take away literally hundreds of hours spent (having fun a.k.a;) grinding. Let us have our cake, you can have some when you've earned it.
Fellow fans,
i think we need a complete reset of all chars to cleansen the market and enable the crowd to start anew. Maybe give each player 5 gold for each generation he had.
So i opt for a system that is enjoyabe for casual player too.
So lemme get this straight... by resetting all characters and eliminating all heirlooms... you expect prices in the marketplace to become lower? hahahahahahahahahahahaYou forgot about resetting money as well. No money, no buyers at 500000 gold.
I worked really hard for my char and my heirlooms...why it should be a good idea to reset them ???OK... and all this time I thought you were playing.
You forgot about resetting money as well. No money, no buyers at 500000 gold.
Which means no one would sell their heirlooms... EVER, marketplace would be gone essentially. To be frank resetting wouldn't really fix anything, it would just force the guy who started the thread to find a new excuse for him dying. The patches since january have already made all people within a few levels of each other most of the time and made heirlooms far less worthwhile, so there really isn't something to fix, if you are dying its most likely a) the people you are fighting have practiced and are good, b) you have not practiced and don't realize that unlike every shooter game out there you can't become a pro after 5 minutes of playing, or c) both of the above. A lot of people ahve practiced for a long time, thats why they are doing better than you.
you would be the first to create a new character and enjoy the new fun involved in it.right? ... Then why dont u just do it and have fun lvling ur character? Plz stop crying over the fact that u get beaten by better players! If it's so fun, why do u need to put everybody to ur "lvl" instead of getting better and higher lvl?
I also agree that players should be able to get more powerful then others, if they play well. But not because they invested 500 hours more in a computer game.
Agreed... heirlooms arent that important anymore (Armor heirlooms are actually the best atm imo)
Anyone can get to lvl 27-30 which is all that is needed to do well, the heirlooms are just a small bonus for people wo invest a lot of time in this game, and if that bonus is removed, some people might see their time as 'wasted'.
I don't really know how i would react to a reset, but i can imagine that i wouldn't play alot anymore, i would probably only play when there's 10+ clanmates in one server, as that is the most fun part of this game.
See, this is what I find ridiculous. You guys are basically saying you play the game ONLY to get the in game rewards. That's an odd statement, to say the least. In my point of view, the rewards I get are just the consequence of me playing the game. Because let's look at this, there is no way to get them faster. You can't grind in this game. You can't "work" for your rewards. You just get them after a certain time (an average 100 hours?). I don't understand why you guys keep pretending otherwise. The heirlooms cannot be the reason you play this game.
Grind like many did before and talk afterwards, not before, egoistic cunt.
Quite ironic. You guys are out of control. The first post was very friendly and very respectful, yet some of you hordes of heirloom-eating zombies went apeshit on the guy, insulted him and just lacked any good forum manners, in answer to a simple suggestion. And he's suppose to be the so-called troll.
At this moment, the guy that started thread have -48 awesomebar :-)
You don't need any heirloom to play, there are many good players that are 1st generation, without retirement and top the scoreboard often. Why reset? Those that wasted hours of playing to get their heirloom, get back to gen1 because of a peasant rage? No.
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I don't understand, how can you be so sure he tried to enrage you on purpose? You guys can just declare a thread as "troll-thread"?
I don't understand, how can you be so sure he tried to enrage you on purpose? You guys can just declare a thread as "troll-thread"?
I'm not for a reset, but if devs should reset to re-open Strategus then let's go i don't care.
Btw, it's funny how some of us think that a RPG must be a grinding game... Role Playing Game, this means you should acting in a way that fit to the history and personnality of your character, not that you must grind to up your attributes and skills. But i guess the mistake came from big game developers, tabletop rpg was really acting and playing, now it's just grinding, no role play anymore...
TROLLING STATEMENTS. MEANT TO INCITE AND INSULT MAJORITY OF PLAYERS
See, this is what I find ridiculous. You guys are basically saying you play the game ONLY to get the in game rewards. That's an odd statement, to say the least. In my point of view, the rewards I get are just the consequence of me playing the game. Because let's look at this, there is no way to get them faster. You can't grind in this game. You can't "work" for your rewards. You just get them after a certain time (an average 100 hours?). I don't understand why you guys keep pretending otherwise. The heirlooms cannot be the reason you play this game.
I think this would mathematically make things easier for me. My main is "only" gen 6. Worse yet, I play with a gen 1 alt all the time :lol:
But I know that it will be done sooner or later, for whatever reason (Strategus could be one). And I don't really care anyway.
Now, what would you say if Kesh said this ?
So yes, ofc we find the game funny, but when you play as many hours as some of us do, it is also nice to feel some kind of progress.
this is the wors idea ever dude people who are rich it cause the have speak hundread and thousand hours in the game if you reset the data base none of them will play longer cause you broke all there achivement and hard work btw gold is pretty easy to make with this patch agree on the fact of the xp can be better but at the same time if it get faster xp it will get also faster retirement for old player enven more then new player so your idea are against your owne word so now just keep it quiet and just dont post any retard idea like that again thanks....
It actually may not sooner or later, because this is a mod of a fulll-fledged game, not a beta of an independent game in development, so the the reset inevitability argument doesn't work. It wouldn't really matter that much in the end, the good players would still be good, the bad players would still be bad, just a whole lot more tedious to start at level 1 all over again, would be a grind to level 30 (skip the fun only way to go). It would add a little more tedium to a game that has became way too repetitive and has lost a lot of its flavor, if done without Strategus would be really easy to walk away and not look back.
Strategus was 50% of the fun of this game and instead of leaving the old version up with slight modification to fit new xp system while he knew he was going to spend months developing new strategus, chadz took it down for 6 MONTHS and counting. Keeping it up all these months could have grown the player base by 25%, I know so many people that just grew bored, quit and moved to other games that probably wouldn't have done so if they had the ability to participate in dynamic map strategy and unique battles/sieges. I mean seriously, battle server, how many times can you fight 20 random guys against 20 random guys (banner balance does help a bit) in maps you have played on so many times before and not start getting bored. Pre-January, 80% of my playing time was Strategus related (90% in December), and i feel like I keep being led along being told its coming out soon. The last "update" (April Fool's post) by chadz regarding Strategus was over 2 months ago. I kind of wish he told us it was going to take over half a year to develop (the original strategus took about 1 month before people started playing on it) so I could have taken a 6 month break from cRPG instead.
So much of the role-playing is gone without strategus, so yes people over-rely on heirlooms with tiny modifiers and levels to help, but there are no stories to follow, no role play to do, just endlessly repetitive battle/siege (camp flag every round) server.
Why the sudden rant? Yesterday was the "supposed" release date from IRC that never materialized.
I'm not for a reset, but if devs should reset to re-open Strategus then let's go i don't care.
Btw, it's funny how some of us think that a RPG must be a grinding game... Role Playing Game, this means you should acting in a way that fit to the history and personnality of your character, not that you must grind to up your attributes and skills. But i guess the mistake came from big game developers, tabletop rpg was really acting and playing, now it's just grinding, no role play anymore... hopefully chadz is more old school!!