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Title: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on May 24, 2018, 03:56:51 pm
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Fucking kill me
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 24, 2018, 04:11:46 pm
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So since around 2/5th of every soldier in BF1 was black, does this mean every 4/5th soldier will be a woman and / or black in BF5(ww2)?
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Torben on May 24, 2018, 04:31:12 pm
its weird that the black guy is also sottish tho
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 24, 2018, 04:39:59 pm
its weird that the black guy is also sottish tho

Biggot spotted.
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Post by: Leshma on May 24, 2018, 04:50:20 pm
Ginger guy looks like James.
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Post by: Jona on May 24, 2018, 04:56:28 pm
Ginger guy looks like James.

Ginger guy looks like some neckbeard that heard if he shaved his head and painted his face he'd look like a discount Kratos.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on May 24, 2018, 05:38:18 pm
The trailer was pretty cringey and the in the reveal session they told us very little, but looking at the feature/changes list i'm honestly a bit excited for BFV.

This is based on the ~3 hour press only demo.


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Summary of a lot of the details.

EA/DICE really shown have shown and discussed all these things on stream and in video form. THIS is the important info people want to know about.

• No Season Pass

• Launch locations are France, Africa and Rotterdam and North Africa desert

• Coop Mode called Combined Arms

• Single player War Stories return

• Fortifications are things like sand bags, trenches, tank stoppers. Only supports can build offensively defense fortifications such as machine guns, field cannons and are much faster at building everything.

• Predetermined areas to build such as at flags, can rebuild destroyed buildings

• Attrition system - health bar is in stages, only regen up to closet stage not to 100 anymore

• Physical interactions - every action in the game requires a player interact for things like medkits, spotting, ammo, ledge grabbing (example: healing requires walking over to a health pack, character animation to pick it up, then start healing)

• No more HUD/map spotting, spotting is based on movement/changes around you

• Attrition system - much less ammo on spawn, out of ammo after a few fights, but more ways to resupply ammo in the battlefield from packs, crates, or grabbing small amounts of ammo off of bodies (all requires physical interactions)

• Revive system has a full on animation, takes a few seconds to complete, no more revive trains, takes time to complete

• Ragdolls are server side, can now drag a downed player's body elsewhere

• Any class can do a squad revive, takes longer than a medic revive, does not give full health points

• Can call for help when down such as in the trailer

• Ragdolls (player bodies) effect the environment, push down grass etc.

• Gunplay completely changed

• No more visual recoil

• Each gun has a unique recoil pattern that can be learned and mastered

• Bipods easier to use and setup

• Bullet penetration through thin wood, sheet metal, walls

• Movement change, can now dive froward, backward, left and right similar to R6 Siege prone system

• Diving has a delay to prevent dolphin diving

• Crouch sprinting is in the game

• Can burst out of widows and commando roll, no destroying windows first

• Can catch, throwback or shoot grenades

• Less grenades because less ammo

• Can tow items in the game with vehicles such as previously stationary anti-air guns, teammate can use an anti-air gun while you tow it with a vehicle

• For example, can drive a tiger tank towing a field cannon behind it or a truck towing ammo crate to resupply teammates on the front line

• Destruction explodes inwards or outwards based on where the destruction happens. Throw a grenade inside of the building? The explosion sends things outside of it. Outside of it? Breaks inwards.

• Tank driving into a building slowly destroys a building, walls slowly crack/fall, not instant

• Heavily focused on squad play, instant placed in squad when joining a game

• New squad spawning system, squad deploy system that shows what squad mates are doing in third person in real time before the tactical map screen, so spawning on squad is kicker than spawning on tactical map screen

• Since squad spawning/deploying is faster than tactical map, squad wipes are serious

• Squads accumulate points that can be spent on "squad call-ins", only squad leader can spend them in

• Squad Call-ins are V1 or JB2 rockets as seen in the trailer, supply drops with ammo/health, a smoke barrage, heavy weapon pickups (not hero kits), squad only vehicles such as Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank or the Sturm tiger

• Elite classes are gone

• Behemoths are gone

• Large, non-fatal explosions can knock a player over

• Four classes are back: assault, medic, scout, support

• Create a solider, add them to a company of soldiers, then can customize things like gender, face look, face paint, outfit, accessories, etc. and assign them a class archtype

• Class archetypes highly customizable

• Can be an assault that specializes in anti-tank or anti-infantry only, or a mix of both, etc.

• Highly specialized archetypes called exotics such as a recon paratrooper, stealthy short-range behind enemy lines person who uses a suppressed SMG and silent gadgets like pistols and garrotes comes with silent footsteps and throwing knives

• Can change and add specialization trees such as agility, flak armor, suppressive resistance

• The more you play a class more you get more specializations/archtypes within said class

Most of the BFs since 3 were merely reskins but this one looks to change stuff around at least a bit.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on May 24, 2018, 06:34:06 pm
I agree about the features it does sound like a lot of improved mechanics. Holding out hope that it could still be good and a lot of the stuff shown was just from single player.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 24, 2018, 06:39:20 pm
So a part of the story will focus on this bitch
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Norwegian resistance fighter member(muh norwegian genetics being altered by Dice), this kinda pisses me off as I can name at least 6 male resistance fighters on the top of my head that we learned about in school but not a single woman comes to mind, Dice please.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Sagar on May 24, 2018, 08:21:30 pm
New features look promising   :)
But when they start talking about realism ... after that trailer and girl with hook ..
only I can think about is "we need weapon prosthetic"  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 24, 2018, 09:55:22 pm
I really dont care much about it, Battlefield isnt very historical anyways. If this was the case in one of those hyper realistic shooters i would understand the concern but BFV looks like another arcadey shooter just a notch above CoD so varied customization seems like a good choice in the long run.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Leesin on May 24, 2018, 10:53:45 pm
I don't really care about that shitty trailer, just seemed like your usual Singleplayer FPS bullshit. In the reveal and the details from the press interview thing, there is a huge list of great changes and new features that change the game from its shell to its core where Multiplayer is concerned ( who the fuck buys Battlefield for Singleplayer anyway? ), this is the first Battlefield game I actually have some hype for in a long time, I did enjoy Battlefield One but I was never really hyped for it, but BF V looks to surpass it by far.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Ikarus on May 25, 2018, 12:23:01 am
I'm neither angry nor happy, just really damn confused what I just saw. That random sliding in mud, shooting into the air like a lunatic, people getting mostly killed by flying vehicles.

It feels like "hey, let's make WW2, but let's make it DIFFERENT". Not authentic enough to be even remotely historically accurate, not weird enough to be a parody, just DifFerREnt.

Maybe the game will turn out fun and playable but this trailer was...disconcerting.

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Post by: Yeldur on May 25, 2018, 01:25:21 am
I always played Battlefield for the storyline as I always liked them, but after this I don't think I want to play another one lol, looks like utter shite.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: gallonigher on May 25, 2018, 03:07:39 am
wake me up when the pc bullshit has blown over.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Turkhammer on May 25, 2018, 05:40:07 am
wake me up when the pc bullshit has blown over.

Could be a long nap.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Kadeth on May 25, 2018, 05:53:33 am
Could be a long nap.

he'll be need'n a dirt nap
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Asheram on May 25, 2018, 05:54:50 am
Well at least they put out, Taleworlds is making me wonder.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on May 25, 2018, 08:49:02 am
It feels like "hey, let's make WW2, but let's make it DIFFERENT". Not authentic enough to be even remotely historically accurate, not weird enough to be a parody, just DifFerREnt.

Eh it's like Leesin said, it's just singleplayer SJW bullshit. Fit in all the weird PC shit so edgelords and SJ crusade is satisfied. And I do believe that the trailer was overblown with various ridiculous shit.

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BF1 trailer was a lot better in comparison for example. Though in the end BF series was never about realism really, but DICE can make a good game and looking at the feature/changes list what they seem to be going for here is more immersion.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Leshma on May 25, 2018, 02:03:12 pm
More alt righters with adequate skills and talent willing to work in the game industry will change storylines to fit alt right taste. Until that happens you're stuck with the likes of Alan Kertz (https://twitter.com/Demize99?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor).
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Oberyn on May 25, 2018, 02:42:46 pm
More alt righters with adequate skills and talent willing to work in the game industry will change storylines to fit alt right taste. Until that happens you're stuck with the likes of Alan Kertz (https://twitter.com/Demize99?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor).

Reality is alt-right now. "Alt-right" tastes, another great idiotic Leshman take.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Leshma on May 25, 2018, 02:48:26 pm
Not in the gaming industry, it isn't.
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Post by: Oberyn on May 25, 2018, 03:30:46 pm
...You just implied the only reason this game exists as it does is because of soyboy brainwashed retards inserting their ideological historical revisionism in games. This isn't "realism", and the only people who pretend it is are the aforementioned soyboys. You don't need to be "alt-right" to be insulted by this idiocy.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Golem on May 26, 2018, 07:53:32 am
fucken BFV ripoff

https://store.steampowered.com/app/736220/Post_Scriptum/ (https://store.steampowered.com/app/736220/Post_Scriptum/)

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Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Angantyr on May 27, 2018, 06:31:55 pm
How far-left the Verge chooses to cover it (Polygon, unsurprisingly, came with a similar 'explanation' for its 'historicity'):

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/24/17388414/battlefield-v-fans-game-women-world-war-2-history
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By Megan Farokhmanesh
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DICE is returning to World War II with Battlefield V, and it’s doing so with the help of feeemales. Following the game’s reveal trailer and confirmation that it will include women, some fragile fans have confirmed they’ve never read a book by protesting what they see as “historical inaccuracy.” Please, keep your women out of my war games!
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Online, this infantile cry has rallied around its own hashtag — #NotMyBattlefield — and it is full of users shrieking about political correctness. “Hey...good job making a shitty unrealistic SJW ‘WWII’ game!” wrote one on Twitter. “Seen the downvotes on your YouTube trailer video? You have til October to fix this shit and give us a realistic gritty WWII experience.” “Very disappointed with the new Battlefield trailer,” wrote another. “Blatant disregard for historical events and mindless political correctness. Sad to see a much loved franchise fall apart.” On YouTube and the game’s subreddit, the comments aren’t much better. “Genderfield V,” complains one, while another whines about “gender fluid mouth breathers in Sweden [shitting] out a revisionist history SJW game shitting on everything people like my grandpa fought for.”
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It’s laughable to think that any modern video game based on a war is “historically accurate,” but even in this case, Battlefield isn’t off the mark. Women did fight in World War II, from the air force units known as the “Night Witches,” to secret agents like Nancy Wake. Lyudmila Pavlichenko is hailed as the most successful female sniper in history, as well as one of the top military snipers of all time with a credited 309 kills. Wanda Gertz began her military career during World War I and later commanded an all-female battalion in World War II. Young women enlisted in combat roles across the world. That a single British woman in the game’s reveal trailer has Battlefield players so riled up is willful ignorance that such a role could have ever existed in history.
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This ugly, familiar line of thinking reared its head before when DICE dared to put a black man on the cover of Battlefield 1.
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Battlefield V is yet another example of a game, a movie, a TV show, a cultural touchpoint that young, angry white men want to claim as their own.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Xant on May 27, 2018, 09:43:24 pm
I see a lot of talk about these Soviet female snipers, but has anyone actually looked into how the kills were confirmed, and/or heard non-biased eye witness accounts? Soviet Union was known for its propaganda and straight out lies, and those snipers were suspiciously photogenic. You have a ton of photos of Lyudmila clearly posing with a sniper rifle, how many of those exist of non-Soviet snipers? Probably not very many, you may have one or two shitty photos of them in the field where they clearly weren't the focus of a PR machine.
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Post by: Golem on May 28, 2018, 09:49:29 am
I can well believe it. You have women referenced as fighting all throughout history, but it seems to me, from what I've read, that it's always a fringe role. Like a sniper sitting - away from the actual fight - or in a situation where they can't flee. That's just a natural human instinct.
I've yet to hear of a conflict where women were the main fighting force and succeeded.
Guerrilla fighting and support roles? Sure.

Example
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Following the death of Libuše, Vlasta leads a band of women against the male forces of Libuše's widower, Přemysl. Šárka, Vlasta's lieutenant, entraps a band of armed men led by Ctirad by tying herself to a tree and claiming that the rebel maidens tied her there and put a horn and a jug of mead out of reach to mock her. Ctirad believes her story and unties her from the tree, whereupon she pours the mead for the men as a celebratory thank you gift. Little do the men know that Šárka and the maidens have put a sleeping potion into the mead. When all the men have fallen asleep, Šárka blows the horn as a signal for the rebel maidens to come out of their hiding places and join her in slaughtering the men. She is captured and defeated along with the rest of the army soon afterward.

1200AD Chronica Boëmorum
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: zottlmarsch on May 28, 2018, 10:25:49 am
wake me up when the pc bullshit has blown over.

By that time we will all be living under Sharia law so probably best to stay asleep. Although there will be some nice things to look forward to, ie. Watching shemale cassi being decapitated live on Euronews and then it's mutilated body being dragged around the streets of vienna.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Golem on May 28, 2018, 12:21:24 pm
To be fair, it doesn't sound too bad. Obviously their PR part of the development team seems to be super focused on pleasing the senzaviles, but looks like the actual part of the team focused on making the game is making a game.
Overall it's still a cheap move, they see indie games doing what they've done a long time ago and making it better, but they only go so far - and not going all the way, with all the resources they have, proves it's not a change of mindset and any sortof of mindfulness about how games affect the brain - children who play them namely - and is just a powermove and a social engineering design with profit in mind.
It might turn out anywhere from -1 to 1, who knows.
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Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on May 28, 2018, 12:32:47 pm
The gameplay changes sound very promissing. A lot of the things they have improved are things that actively bother me every time I play. So there is promise for the gameplay. I do think it could still be very fun to play as I have greatly enjoyed BF1.
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Post by: Vibe on May 28, 2018, 12:36:26 pm
I'll be basing my hype on multiplayer gameplay which will be revealed at EA PLAY 9-11 June. If all the aforementioned features and changes are in the game and EA actually sticks to their "can't buy any game advantage" statement, this might be worth hyping for.

In the end it's EA and you can't know for sure, but I do have my hopes they've learned something from the Battlefront 2 disaster. They also had an open beta for Battlefield 1 and Battlefront 2 before their releases, so BFV will probably have it as well.

The gameplay changes sound very promissing. A lot of the things they have improved are things that actively bother me every time I play.

Yeah, a couple of things were changed that were bothering me in previous games, most notably constant instant reviving/healing/rearming that could really slow down matches.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on May 28, 2018, 12:49:54 pm
i'm a huge history sperg and really do appreciate historical accuracy, and this shit doesn't really bother me at all. maybe its the irony poisoning, but i think it is funny as all get out. fucking surreal.

it isn't like anyone but the most idiotic or subverted that are going to get the impression that the game trailer receiving so much flak is historically accurate. i do think that it is a pretty silly move, lefty virtue-signalling can be mad profitable at times, but hardly in non-indie games, especially shootan games. sure, all those indie games with progressive undertones made tons of money, but it ain't the same thing at all.

It’s laughable to think that any modern video game based on a war is “historically accurate,” but even in this case, Battlefield isn’t off the mark. Women did fight in World War II, from the air force units known as the “Night Witches,” to secret agents like Nancy Wake. Lyudmila Pavlichenko is hailed as the most successful female sniper in history, as well as one of the top military snipers of all time with a credited 309 kills. Wanda Gertz began her military career during World War I and later commanded an all-female battalion in World War II. Young women enlisted in combat roles across the world. That a single British woman in the game’s reveal trailer has Battlefield players so riled up is willful ignorance that such a role could have ever existed in history.

oh god now THIS is fucking comedy dude, what the fuck? because in the many years of the Second World War spanning 5 continents, there were bound to be SOME FEW females using firearms against the enemy, some females acting as agents in the French Underground and elsewhere, and some Soviet propaganda, it is not historically inaccurate to portray a woman with a fucking hook for a hand parachuting in for cowwadoody bullshit, equipped with her trusty nail-bait (perfect for bashing the fash, amirite?!)

jesus christ im glad that i enjoy this shit or i would be mad all the time
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on May 28, 2018, 01:08:46 pm
I was honestly more bothered by how chaotic and all over the place the trailer was in general rather than the historical innacuraccy. Shit happening left and right, no battle lines established soldiers just blazing in from everywhere, explosions, destruction and ridiculous events happening everywhere, camera spinning around absolutely nauseating, impossible to keep up. Like a super edgy michael bay scene on steroids.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on May 28, 2018, 01:11:56 pm
The big problem for me lies in that I enjoy playing semi realistic recreations of the real armies/battles that occurred. It just doesn't feel authentic to have these armies composed of people that don't represent the actual make up of the armies of the period.

Would prefer they stuck to the actual uniforms and armies that fought the battles.

+1 for being able to call for medic when you are downed.

Medic_Player -2m away
Medic_Player -7m away
Medic_Player -15m away
Medic_Player -20m away
...reeeeeeeee


Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on May 28, 2018, 01:45:39 pm
The big problem for me lies in that I enjoy playing semi realistic recreations of the real armies/battles that occurred.

Well, Battlefield games were always fun before authenticity or realism anyway. If you want that you're better off with either Post Scriptum or Hell Let Loose or even Red Orchestra/Day of Infamy. I'll be disappointed if I can't jihad jeep some yanks für mein Führer.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on May 28, 2018, 03:09:40 pm
Eh I don't need a lot of authenticity but in some areas like the soldiers/armies fighting it seems like a mistake not to use the actual units that would have been fighting.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Sniger on May 28, 2018, 04:24:58 pm
looks like a BF1 reskin to me.

also, whats up with the painted faces and artificial limb? im not sure any english speaking nation had women in WW2. russia did but thats russia.
 
realistic? not really, not ever, not when theres an EA logo on it

i enjoyed 1942, vietnam and especially bad company 2. bf1 mixed feels
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on May 28, 2018, 04:51:14 pm
Yeah I would definitely not have opted for bright blue face paint being an option in the game nor would I have said that soldiers should have artificial metal limbs. If that stuff is just in the single player campaign then it wouldn't matter as much to me.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 28, 2018, 05:13:19 pm
Yeah I would definitely not have opted for bright blue face paint being an option in the game nor would I have said that soldiers should have artificial metal limbs. If that stuff is just in the single player campaign then it wouldn't matter as much to me.

It'll be in multiplayer so people that are disabled can show you that you have an able-bodied privilege even in the virtual world.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Jona on May 28, 2018, 07:42:06 pm
i enjoyed 1942, vietnam and especially bad company 2.

I haven't really enjoyed a bf game (or any multiplayer-based fps) since bad company 2. Maybe I'm just getting old...
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 28, 2018, 09:02:19 pm
Bad Company 2 will always be my favorite Battlefield game, felt the most balanced to me, especially when it comes to soldiers and vehicles. In BF3 and BF4 it can be very hard to take out a tank / fighter jet due to them taking a lot more damage and specific upgrades that you unlock. In Bad Company 2 a tank was usually out of commission after 2 - 3 rpg rounds while in BF4 for example it can take 5, not to mention if you got a guy repairing it, no way you'll take it out alone.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Casul on May 28, 2018, 09:04:43 pm
Thank god I am not into shooter bullshit at all, unless its called BORDERLANDS
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Golem on May 29, 2018, 01:20:50 am
It'll be in multiplayer so people that are disabled can show you that you have an able-bodied privilege even in the virtual world.

How funny would it be if it turned out the game actually gives you a disadvantage if you play a pirate or a woman.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Xant on May 29, 2018, 05:35:34 am
How funny would it be if it turned out the game actually sends you 5 million dollars every time you kill someone xD BrokeBack
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Kadeth on May 29, 2018, 05:39:01 am
this looks gay, we need more vibe korean MMO reviews
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on May 29, 2018, 08:45:43 am
this looks gay, we need more vibe korean MMO reviews

shit nigga i was about to cover bless online but it honestly looks too boring even for someone like me, who touches the most unholy korean shit
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Post by: Grytviken on May 29, 2018, 08:54:52 am
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Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Golem on May 29, 2018, 09:07:23 am
How funny would it be if it turned out the game actually sends you 5 million dollars every time you kill someone xD BrokeBack

That wouldn't be very funny, have you seen Fargo?
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Torben on June 02, 2018, 08:05:55 pm
looks like a BF1 reskin to me.

also, whats up with the painted faces and artificial limb? im not sure any english speaking nation had women in WW2. russia did but thats russia.
 
realistic? not really, not ever, not when theres an EA logo on it

i enjoyed 1942, vietnam and especially bad company 2. bf1 mixed feels

Bf 2 was rly fun tho 2
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on June 07, 2018, 09:07:49 am
A few gameplay changes in detail:
https://www.battlefield.com/news/article/battlefield-5-deep-dive-gameplay-changes-and-additions

I especially like this part, which I found mildly annoying in previous BF games:
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Where you aim is where you’ll shoot. This will always be true in Battlefield V. Disregarding bullet drop over longer distances, the bullet will go where you have your sights. There will be no RBD (random bullet deviation).

In addition to this (not covered in the article), apparently suppresion effect in BFV will only be visual and won't make you inaccurate.

EAPLAY is this weekend so we'll see some multiplayer footage finally.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Jacaroma on June 09, 2018, 01:56:29 am

In addition to this (not covered in the article), apparently suppresion effect in BFV will only be visual and won't make you inaccurate.
So you don't want your bullets to be random when you're being suppressed?
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 09, 2018, 09:06:45 am
You guys have clearly never been shot at, when you do your arms kinda spasm randomly and you shoot wherever tbh.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on June 09, 2018, 09:19:47 am
So you don't want your bullets to be random when you're being suppressed?

No?
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Post by: Vibe on June 09, 2018, 08:19:40 pm
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Post by: Xant on June 10, 2018, 12:22:18 am
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Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Golem on June 10, 2018, 12:22:21 am
So you don't want your bullets to be random when you're being suppressed?

Their new feature they are touting is that all weapons will shoot where you point them and have a learnable recoil pattern, so you can master each weapon. Would be pretty retarded if they scrapped that as soon as two people started shooting at each other.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Asheram on August 20, 2018, 09:57:46 pm
Michael Bayttlefield 5.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on September 05, 2018, 10:33:36 am
Battlefield V Open Beta tomorrow
September 6, 1 am PT (10 am CEST)
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on September 07, 2018, 11:01:40 am
Some impressions after playing for a few hours yesterday:

PROS
- The new gun handling and gun accuracy. From my experience, bullets go where you aim and there's no more random spread (except I think on machineguns). This is a huge change from the RNG fest from previous Battlefield games. To compensate that the guns appear to have more recoil. All in all a great change and makes gunfights more skill based.
- Love that there is no more 3D spotting. I think it drastically changes how the game is played. You actually have to check your surroundings and look around yourself, not just scan minimap/game for doritos. It also gives more options to flank and not be immediately revealed to the entire enemy team as soon as someone presses a single button.
- The low ammo count and not being able to regenerate to full HP makes reliance on your squad and teamwork way more important.
- The above two points all make the game slower, which imo is a good thing. No more brainless rushing and constant chaotic fights. While you can still do that and some parts of the map can get chaotic, I think it's overall a big improvement to how the game plays.
- I thought Fortifications were a side-thing DICE put in so they can say "look here's some sandbox stuff you can build", but I was pleasantly surprised at just how many spots you can build fortifications. You can completely block off roads in Rotterdam map for example, and if you have a Support class, they can build advanced fortifications such as barbed wire and tank blockers, putting even more value to Support class, which was somewhat useless in previous BF installments.

CONS
- The weapon upgrade system feels somewhat mediocre. It's basically two paths that you can take and every tier you unlock is a straight upgrade. There's no decision making here, no side-grades where you decide if you want to sacrifice one statistic to improve another. Definitely a downgrade from previous BFs. It's also not related to attachments, which are purely cosmetic now, except for sights.
- You can't unlock new stuff mid-match. You have to go back to main menu to unlock new stuff, then you can swap to it mid-match. Hopefully this is something they'll change on release as it's completely retarded to have to do that.
- While it's nice having to rely on Supports to resupply your low ammo count, I feel like the ammo you spawn with is a bit on the low side. Hopefully they increase that so you don't run out of ammo as fast as you do now, but will still have to rely on supports to resupply you.
- The downed state system is a bit weird now, LMB speeds up your death, RMB calls for help but slows your death timer. Feels a bit unintuitive, but it's confirmed they plan to change that already by speeding it all up.
- Bipods deploy automatically and you're locked into this animation when that happens. Incredibly annoying and needs to change.
- The colors are a bit over the top, imo. Brights are too bright, dark is too dark.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Algarn on September 07, 2018, 12:32:43 pm
The the attrition feature itself is enough not to make me play. Who thought it was a good idea to give 3 or so mags on spawn ?
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on September 07, 2018, 12:46:50 pm
Yeah 3 mags is very low, I doubt that'll make it to release but who knows.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on September 07, 2018, 12:57:21 pm
Didn't get the chance to try the beta but hearing mixed reviews from those who did.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Vibe on September 07, 2018, 01:02:28 pm
There's good stuff and there's bad stuff. I think overall it's an improvement over previous Battlefields, but it is a matter of taste. If you're looking to rush in mindlessly like in BF4 you're probably not going to like BFV, as it has a different pace. I think a lot of the hate comes from the shit they had with cosmetics and races and women and DICE's dumb ass comments and replies to their players, which is completely understandable, but is not telling on how the game actually plays.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: njames89 on September 07, 2018, 01:21:30 pm
Yeah I am most interested about the gameplay changes. I've already resigned myself to the fact that I will be a  lesbian cyborg mauri warrior. The building defenses / added destruction / revamped gunplay are probably the most interesting features I have heard described.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Thryn on September 08, 2018, 01:37:09 am
guns feel awful imo, the bullet velocity is laughably slow

i get more ammo for my secondary than my primary which is quite possibly the dumbest decision ive ever heard of in a shooter


edit: i think they decided to have really slow bullet velocity so that fighting at any sort of distance is pretty ineffective as compared to running and gunning which slaughters kids except you have no ammo for it
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Leesin on September 09, 2018, 07:02:22 pm
LMG velocity is an issue IMO, most of the other guns seem OK for the ranges they're supposed to be used at but I think a general rebalance is needed to really get more acceptable velocities, the rifles have decent velocity already though. BF games have always had slower bullet velocities for certain guns though so I am not sure how they are going to approach it this time if they do change it at all. I like the limited ammo, there are ammo points to restock from and a support class to keep your team going, as well as collecting ammo and stuff that you walk over. It actually makes having support classes more valuable as he can keep everyone's primary weapon in action and punishes players who only want to play Rambo ( unless they are support themselves ). You have more ammo for secondary weapon because if you have no means of getting ammo for a short time, at least you have enough for your backup weapon to perhaps keep you alive.

I think the guns feel good aside from the imbalanced bullet velocities, shooting feels much better than BF1 at least. Guns feel like they pack more punch although I think the LMG needs to retain more damage at long ranges.
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Thryn on September 09, 2018, 08:07:31 pm
LMG velocity is an issue IMO, most of the other guns seem OK for the ranges they're supposed to be used at but I think a general rebalance is needed to really get more acceptable velocities, the rifles have decent velocity already though. BF games have always had slower bullet velocities for certain guns though so I am not sure how they are going to approach it this time if they do change it at all. I like the limited ammo, there are ammo points to restock from and a support class to keep your team going, as well as collecting ammo and stuff that you walk over. It actually makes having support classes more valuable as he can keep everyone's primary weapon in action and punishes players who only want to play Rambo ( unless they are support themselves ). You have more ammo for secondary weapon because if you have no means of getting ammo for a short time, at least you have enough for your backup weapon to perhaps keep you alive.

I think the guns feel good aside from the imbalanced bullet velocities, shooting feels much better than BF1 at least. Guns feel like they pack more punch although I think the LMG needs to retain more damage at long ranges.

the upgrade system really impacts gun play, i got faster bullets and lower recoil for the stg and it's OP practically, the smgs blow tho- they do minimal damage, have low velocity, awful range falloff, and just feel weak all around. i get that it's a "close quarters" weapon and you can make the argument that it should reflect that, but it's really a waste of ammo to fire at people over 40 yards away from you lol

i think they took the guns from bf1 and replaced the ridiculous amounts of rng with some recoil that you can control; however guns are going to be good based on your upgrades

im unsure as to how long time to kill really is because the game seems really laggy, sometimes it feels like registration is so awful that 10 bullets land before they die and other times it feels like the dude gets dropped in 4 bullets. i guess it's another typical rushed EA game that will be decently playable a year after release rofl. it's progressive tho so its got that going for it #rememberalltheasianwomenwhodiedinservicetobritain
Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Gravoth_iii on September 09, 2018, 08:29:51 pm
"White man" is censored? lel

Title: Re: Battlefield V [Realistic Historical WW2 Shooter]
Post by: Asheram on September 09, 2018, 11:21:51 pm
lol that is too funny.