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At least the US got moved up to 3rd place on the leaderboards for singleplayer. USA! USA! USA!
Breivik still in the lead. Though he's Norwegian so he probably used doping. Tests would disqualify him.
Classic Florida
Always was and always will be US´ most fucked up state
Well done USA: According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, the US last year suffered 372 mass shootings, defined as a single incident that kills or injures four or more people. Some 475 people were killed and 1,870 wounded.
Guys ex wife came out and said he used to abuse her, she thought he was mentally unstable. They were only married for a few months as a result. Guys like that are easy fodder for IS.
Also Trump using it to immediately try and score political points. Disgusting man.
Elaborate? Considering I live there, it's interesting to see someone's opinion who's clearly only read about it on his proper sheeple websites.
Bernie shall sit in the white house in November.
Basically Florida is the laughing stock of about every other state. Pretty amusing to me how ignorant you guys are of this fact.I thought that spot was taken by Alabama http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/watch/alabama-house-speaker-convicted-on-12-charges/vp-AAgUply
Elaborate? Considering I live there, it's interesting to see someone's opinion who's clearly only read about it on his proper sheeple websites.
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Bernie shall sit in the white house in November.
There's a whole thing of florida man memes. I mean its in memes. Gotta be true.
They are funny tho.
''Florida man assault quadriplegic with a fish''ROFL
Breivik still in the lead. Though he's Norwegian so he probably used doping. Tests would disqualify him.
>go to school
>get shot
>go to the movies
>get shot
>go to the mall
>get shot
>go suck some dick
>get shot
Though killing 50 solo is quite an achievement for US, gotta give them that.
And was Florida Man also the one responsible for keeping an alligator tied up and raping it repeatedly to "show it who's boss (cuz it tried to attack him or something)?"
That's some dank memes, guys. Hilarious how this is the reaction compared to the Bataclan shooting thread. Apparently the bundle of sticks angle makes people not perceive them as fully human or something. Only exception is the fucking muslim convert who immediately used it as a platform to make a political statement...while simultaneously calling Trump disgusting for immediately using it as a platform to make a political statement. Nice diversion tactics, learned from the best muslim apologists. Lol never change crpg.To me, the American angle makes me not perceive them as fully human or something.
That's some dank memes, guys. Hilarious how this is the reaction compared to the Bataclan shooting thread. Apparently the bundle of sticks angle makes people not perceive them as fully human or something. Only exception is the fucking muslim convert who immediately used it as a platform to make a political statement...while simultaneously calling Trump disgusting for immediately using it as a platform to make a political statement. Nice diversion tactics, learned from the best muslim apologists. Lol never change crpg.
Orlando Killer Worked For Company Transporting Illegal Immigrants Inside US; Was Interviewed By FBI 3 TimesHe brought in more of his mohammedan friends into the U.S. it seems, many thanks to the limeys.
In a surprising discovery, the Palm Beach Post first reported that according to state records, Orlando shooter Omar Mateen - who as we reported earlier was licensed as a security guard and also holds a firearms license - was employed by the US subsidiary of G4S plc, a British multinational security services company, whose US-headquarters are located in Jupiter, Fla, and which also happens to be the world's largest security company by revenue.
I'm surprised he has gotten this big tho seeing as the establishment wants Hillary and media promotes her as well, and most of the far right and others wants Trump.
The only way out of being a third world country is Bernie. It's far from over, and seeing as Bernie is winning over Trump in the polls with double digits and Shillary isn't, the super delegates will most likely, I think, see clear on the 25th of July. The entire fucking system is retarded tho. America isn't a demcracy, if the votings happened European style and the entire government wasnt corrupt, Bernie would be leading now, guaranteed.Is not the bulk of Europe's nations a multi party system, where there are dozens of parties running? I saw Spain, or Portugal have a lot of different parties run, and each take seats, but Austria seemed to be between two parties only.
Apparently the bundle of sticks angle makes people not perceive them as fully human or something.
It's not like you consider dem muslems fully human either.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/orlando-shooter-worked-security-company-which-tranports-illegal-immigrants-deep-insi (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/orlando-shooter-worked-security-company-which-tranports-illegal-immigrants-deep-insi)
He brought in more of his mohammedan friends into the U.S. it seems, many thanks to the limeys.
Maybe the U.S. will get lucky, and Trump will be Vlad Tepes's long lost descendant. They both want to remove kebabs afterall.
if you're black gay student who loves cinema and McDonalds. your chances of survival in the United States 0.1% :mrgreen:
There's a whole thing of florida man memes. I mean its in memes. Gotta be true.
They are funny tho.(click to show/hide)
Elaborate? Considering I live there, it's interesting to see someone's opinion who's clearly only read about it on his proper sheeple websites.http://www.distortedview.com/show/
The only way out of being a third world country is Bernie. It's far from over, and seeing as Bernie is winning over Trump in the polls with double digits and Shillary isn't, the super delegates will most likely, I think, see clear on the 25th of July. The entire fucking system is retarded tho. America isn't a demcracy, if the votings happened European style and the entire government wasnt corrupt, Bernie would be leading now, guaranteed.
Let Bernie make your shit country better.Won´t happen. At least they don´t get Trump, it´s frightening that he even got so far.
"Look at the math". The math clearly shows that it ISN'T over.I mean, if you follow mass media, Shillary won two months ago. Let Bernie make your shit country better.
That's some dank memes, guys. Hilarious how this is the reaction compared to the Bataclan shooting thread. Apparently the bundle of sticks angle makes people not perceive them as fully human or something. Only exception is the fucking muslim convert who immediately used it as a platform to make a political statement...while simultaneously calling Trump disgusting for immediately using it as a platform to make a political statement. Nice diversion tactics, learned from the best muslim apologists. Lol never change crpg.The LGBTXYZ community is made up of some of the most left wing radical fanatics who are first in line to make excuses for the terrorists and who have been the driving force behind changes in the West that allow shit like this to happen in the first place. The terrorist probably just killed some of his/their biggest supporters and apologists.
He already endorsed his opponent. Hillary got more of the popular vote and more super delegates.
It doesn't surprise me that a generation of bums that want free handouts would also make up fictional excuses for him losing. These are the same people who claim we have this awful gun problem in America but refuse to admit that 90% of firearm homicides are caused by minorities.
It's not like you consider dem muslems fully human either.
Link? If you mean the white house speech, he was just being clever. The super delegates will cast their votes next month.
Oh, you're one of those guys. Not gonna comment the first sentence, take a look at some of the most advanced nations in the world like the nordic countries.
But seriously? You won't admit that America has the shittiest gun problem in the western world? Far worse than any other nation, actually. And I'd really like facts on those 90% firearm homicides being caused by minorities, that would be an interesting read. I'm right-wing, national socialist style, but america is such a shithole. Just thinking about living there is giving me an headache.
Bernie lost the popular vote and the super delegate vote, anyway you look at the math Bernie lost. Just because he had the loudest most obnoxious vocal following doesn't mean the majority support him. Polls mean nothing.
Like Norway, where Breivik murdered over 70 ppl in the worst mass shooting in history? Or maybe you meant the United Arab Republic of Sweden, the rape capital of the western world? Nice signature by the way; "Ariana Grande is beautiful." LOL I guess you like girls who come from shitholes.
I'm not really sure what you're arguing against. The fact that mass shootings HAPPEN elsewhere in the western world doesn't change the fact that it happens more frequent, and much larger in the USA. I'm not sure what the fuck you are talking about in the bold part. "Maybe you meant", what? Immigration is an issue in Sweden, yes, but how is that relevant?
Believe it or not, I like a shit ton of people coming from that shitstain of a country.
Link? If you mean the white house speech, he was just being clever. The super delegates will cast their votes next month.
Oh, you're one of those guys. Not gonna comment the first sentence, take a look at some of the most advanced nations in the world like the nordic countries.
But seriously? You won't admit that America has the shittiest gun problem in the western world? Far worse than any other nation, actually. And I'd really like facts on those 90% firearm homicides being caused by minorities, that would be an interesting read. I'm right-wing, national socialist style, but america is such a shithole. Just thinking about living there is giving me an headache.
Where was the security who would usually pat down people at clubs with this amount of people?
And yes, if you're going to judge the US just on the number of gun crimes you should also take into account how many people live here.
Headline: "Orlando suspect was a bodybuilder and an abusive husband."
Anything to not mention Islam, I guess. Bodybuilder? Wut? Why are they mentioning that? From the pics they've shown he'd done it for like a month at most.
I can't give David De Gea criticism because I'm not the best, most flawless goalkeeper in the world? I can't point out that America clearly have problems with gun laws and the general state of the country because Sweden isn't a utopia? That's some shitty, flawed logic to be fair.
EDIT: Didn't read your sentence properly, my bad. Still, I can't visit McDonalds because it's originally from the united states? That's really far-stretched, my name, originally from a fictional world, created by an american author. Holy shit.
I HAPPEN TO LIKE A BOOK CREATED BY AN AMERICAN AUTHOR SO I'M NOT ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE THE COUNTRY HE'S FROM
There has been 173 mass shootings in America so far in 2016. Meanwhile, In Sweden, there has been none. One occured last year, though. Actually, that was a mass-stabbing nvm. Your laws make it incredibly easy for a teenager with mental problems to go to school and get his revenge, or for the narcissist to go and shoot every couple he sees because he can't get laid.
I'm not saying your country is shit and fucked up because of this alone, tho. You're not a democracy, your voting system is retarded, your government officials are corrupt and you lack basic rights like free healthcare and education. If your kind were to be educated, you might grow up to make some real change in your fucking country.
I'm not sure you understand the meaning of being a hypocrite. USA is a shit country to live in, it lacks the most basic rights and allows for so many mass-shootings to be held. It doesn't mean that good people can't be born in the country, or that those people can produce good things, and neither did I say that.
I'm sorry for offending your country, what did you interpret "shithole" as? Even if it was, quite literally a shithole, good things would still be able to come from it.
I'm sorry for offending your country, what did you interpret "shithole" as? Even if it was, quite literally a shithole, good things would still be able to come from it.
So if it's proven that certain areas are "shitholes" as you call them, which isn't far off, why would you logically use these isolated areas as the standard to dictate your laws? Is that democracy?
yes, because everyone automatically associates good things with shitty places. /s Your term was obviously offensive.
The US in nowhere near the shithole you make it out to be. I dare you to go visit a Brazilian shanty-town to get a taste of a REAL shithole; you wouldn't last a day.
In what state in America do you have free healthcare? Or free education?
In what state in America do you have free healthcare? Or free education?
Is your current voting system demcoracy?
Haha yes, it's not a shithole because there are other, worse shitholes around.
Millions of people in the US have free healthcare.
Then you clearly don't know what a shithole is.
The absolute poorest doesn't count. I would barf over America even more if they somehow took hundreds of thousand of dollars from a shot-injured hobo. That some of your 350 million population qualify for medicaid don't make it any better. So I ask again, in what states do you have actual free healthcare and education.
While I may think America is a shithole, you may think Brazil is a shithole. Brazilians may think Kongo is a shithole. Kongo may th- Well you get the point. The word is dependant on you as a person. I think it's a horrible place to live in for many reasons. But I can see that you two are clearly out of arguments and I wanna catch some sleep. Sleep tight parasite.
Where was the security who would usually pat down people at clubs with this amount of people?
That's Trump's ''fanbase''. A negative video can be made on Youtube about Bernie and the dislikes wouldn't be much. A video bringing up negative things about Trump? Prepare to get showered in dislikes and hate and whine.
And while people bring up Bernie's points and ideas as something that could only happen in a fantasy world. Trump himself never has concrete solutions to the problems and is just a demagogue who's popular among dank meme kids, far righters who got nobody else to vote for and people who fall for the BS he says. The fantasy ideas (wall), and making contradicting statements + never replying with real proper solutions to all his ideas. And how he built hype because he was loudmouthed,a celebrity, and attacked Cruz, Rubio, Carson etc for retarded reasons. Carson for making people sleepy, implying Cruz was the Zodiac killer which spread like a meme among the meme kids in Trump's fanbase, Kasich for eating in a ''disgusting'' way.
It's just a case of the people being tired of politicans and voting in a complete joke.
Bernie had extreme ideas but with solutions. Now people might think they're horrible but atleast he had solutions and wasn't acting like a pro wrestler when he's talking like Trump does.
In Sweden he would cut up the school with a sword, so no luck there.
The Christian Right has introduced 200 anti-LGBT bills in the last six months and people blaming Islam for this. No. #PulseNightclub
Mmm, and how terribly gauche for anyone to talk about all the myriad mass shootings in the US in a thread about a single mass shooting the US. Completely off-topic in your Islam thread.
What red flags? Haven't you been paying attention? The real issue is availability of guns and the murder rate in the US, not islamic radicalism. Just look at all the redneck good ol boys strapping semtex on themselves before going out on suicide missions, this is clearly an ingrained problem of barbaric american culture. Let's listen to some retarded bundle of stickss talk about these incredibly salient issues that relate to this event 100%.
What is the root and how do you fix it? Blame the minorities and then?
Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and sometimes its just a better idea to keep guns out of the hands of people.
What red flags? Haven't you been paying attention? The real issue is availability of guns and the murder rate in the US, not islamic radicalism. Just look at all the redneck good ol boys strapping semtex on themselves before going out on suicide missions, this is clearly an ingrained problem of barbaric american culture. Let's listen to some retarded bundle of stickss talk about these incredibly salient issues that relate to this event 100%.
This particular shooter can't hide behind a minority tag, seeing as he's part of an extremist movement. A Muslim, but separate from Muslims as a whole.
But, the past is a large part of the social problem we're seeing today with black on black violence.
And easy access to guns is certainly an enabler of today's active shooter, an impossible to profile lunatic, contrary to every hindsighter's "This could've been prevented if they just through him in prison for that one traffic ticket or that one time he told his buddy at work that he hates America."
Seriously he was going to pride to 'look for a friend' fully loaded up with assault weapons and trying to make a homemade bomb. If that's his story then that's what they have to report but sounds like a pile of crap.
I'm not defending anything. Simply showing your statement was bollocks.
And you've learned this where, exactly? That he was planning to do serious harm and was only stopped at the last second? Strange, you'd figure someone willing to go out in a suicidal blaze wouldn't let himself be stopped by something as a simple as a traffic cop, armed as he was with assault rifles and explosives. You'd think investigators in charge of his case would've mentioned something, not gone out of their way to clarify in the media that the information that he was planning harm was erroneous. Oh well, I'll def listen to the impressions of some muslim convert retard that endlessly defends his shit addopted religion instead, and likes to pretend the worldwide scourge of islamic terrorism is negligible or equivalent before the monstrous, blood-soaked culture of Amerikkka, that's much more reliable
He was able to hide behind a minority tag to conduct this attack and avoid further investigation and keep his right to own an assault rifle.
We'll see, both on the Orlando shooter would-be suicide bomber and this guy, once they release all the info. Of course whatever the truth of the matter you will remain convinced the islamic angle on the attack that caused 50 deaths is unimportant, because you're a muslim. Not trying to defend anything, lol gtfo. Every single fucking time there's an islamic terrorist attack you show up and start throwing false equivalencies and casting off any responsability from your religion. But but a white guy!!! But but guuuun controoool! Fucking pos bundle of sticks. What ulterior reason did the murderous hostage taker have in Paris? Let me guess, nothing to do with Islam again, here's a list of other factors, hahaha. Do you not start feeling even a little bit of shame after the, what, 50th time you've used these arguements in similar instances? Any sort of cognitive dissonance? Oh well, I'm sure you'll get plenty of opportunities to trott them out again, have no fear.
And they say TV doesn't effect behavior. GoT should be banned.
Read somewhere also that some guy at the club went retard mode and held one of the exit doors shut (HOLD THE DOOR/HODOR) and pretty much kept them all stuck inside.
But then if Islam plays a part, what do we ought to do to solve this problem, Overdriven? Surely the solution is in some way related to Islam. By accepting Oberyn's premise, you have to confront what he actually wants to argue.
O Oberyn you never fail to astound me with how idiotic you can be.
At what point have I stated that it's unimportant? He pledged his allegiance to IS right before doing it. Heck sounds like this guy was a closet gay, probably couldn't handle the conflict with religion, was fucked up mentally, somewhere along the line got in contact with IS and they promised him if he did it he would get into heaven and erase any 'haraam' thoughts he was having.
The nuances of my arguments always fall on deaf ears when it comes to you. You have your own hardcore set values and nothing anybody says will change those. It's why arguing with you is such a joke. The nonsense you spew half the time is just laughable and you tend to ignore 90% of what anyone says for your own agenda.
Pretending gun laws aren't part of the problem is just blind. It's all part of the problem. This guy just walked into a shop and bought some guns a couple of weeks before going on a killing spree and no one challenged him, despite the fact he was investigated multiple times for possible terrorist links. Even if they were inconclusive that should have thrown up some bloody red flags right there.
There are many issues at play here, a large one being Islam, but also gun control and other factors. You can't ignore others just to pursue your own fucked up 'I hate Islam' angle and pretend that all the others don't play a part.
If only semtex wasn't available over the counter, america wouldn't be plagued with suicidal attackers using the stuff as a fashion statement, such an american thing to do. Not like Islam preaches that gays are sinners that must be executed, this was merely an insane closet homo with access to firearms. Islam is blameless, as usual, this is nothing but fanatics that can't properly be called muslims because they so misunderstand it's message of peace and tolerance. Violence against homosexuals is not an institutionalized and common occurence in literally every single muslim majority country, there are no tenets in the religion promoting it. When some insane christian does a terrorist attack on an abortion clinic, the source of his anger and rational is very clear. When it's a muslim it's vastly more nuanced though.
The solution is related to Islam. And has been coming through in a lot of western countries. A big part of the problem is the Wahhabi interpretation of Islam that has taken hold in much of the middle east. If other countries can move away from that particular ideology then it would go a long way to changing what's wrong with the Islamic world. It's already happening with a lot of younger Muslims in Western countries.
In India where my wife is from they are also moving towards more liberal interpretations. Heck I sat and watched an Imam and the 'elders' make a decision about whether I could actually get married in the mosque. Go back 20 years and my in laws are convinced they would have chased me out. But times a changing. And fortunately it was in a very cosmopolitan part of India.
A big part of the problem is that Wahabism is the state ideology of Saudi, so it has massive weight behind it. If you go back even to the 50's and earlier, many of the now hardcore conservative Islamic countries were incredibly liberal before it's rise.
It's a problem that will probably take decades to resolve, if ever. Just like there are still hardcore fanatics in any religion, I'm sure there always will be in Islam. But with education, social media ect. At least some change can be brought about. Particularly if education is brought to the masses in the Middle East. Which it's severely lacking at the moment. State sponsored religion is simply an easy tool to control people until more varied and wider education comes about.
The thing Oberyn misses is that he see's Islam as just one thing and as such he thinks when I defend aspects of it, I'm defending all of it. Then he'll quickly google some things and pretend he know's wtf he's talking about and go on a ridiculous rant again.
Once again ignoring what I said.
As this happens every thread I'm just going to cut this short now as it'll drag out for 50-100 pages.
You're a bloody moron Oberyn. Plenty of people here can see that.
I'm done.
Once again ignoring what I said.
As this happens every thread I'm just going to cut this short now as it'll drag out for 50-100 pages.
You're a bloody moron Oberyn. Plenty of people here can see that.
I'm done.
Think about it this way: I tried to get to the heart of the issue and you answered in a way that makes sense. Of course, you didn't actually provide a solution, unless waiting idly is a solution. Similarly, Oberyn avoids spelling out what he wants because there's really no way to make that sound nice.
And they say TV doesn't effect behavior. GoT should be banned.
Until people know any better they will continue believing it.Sort of like Islam, huh?
Those poor misguided children need a White Saviour to show them how to Islam properly. They merely need more education, and eventually western mores and Islam will merge into a contented, peaceful whole, because western mores are so clearly universal and will eventually be accepted world-wide by all peoples and creeds. They must, or these idiot's entire worldview comes crashing down.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/europe/uk-london-bans-negative-body-image-ads/index.html
London is one step closer to sharia. Female models are offensive.
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wat? overproduction and the resulting low oil price is killing the US fracking industry. they'd love a price increase.Damn, I was going on 2009 autopilot, you are correct.
wat? overproduction and the resulting low oil price is killing the US fracking industry. they'd love a price increase.
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A study that shows boys growing up in religious Muslim families are more likely to be violent seems set to reignite the debate over religion and integration, a media report said on Sunday.
The study, which involved intensive questioning of 45,000 teenagers from 61 towns and regions across the country, was conducted by Christian Pfeiffer of the criminal research institute of Lower Saxony.
Pfeiffer said that even when other social factors were taken into account, there remained a significant correlation between religiosity and readiness to use violence.
ACLU’s LGBT and AIDSliterally cancer
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Those poor misguided children need a White Saviour to show them how to Islam properly. They merely need more education, and eventually western mores and Islam will merge into a contented, peaceful whole, because western mores are so clearly universal and will eventually be accepted world-wide by all peoples and creeds. They must, or these idiot's entire worldview comes crashing down.
In a thread where we mock how people blame video games every time a deranged nerd goes on a killing spree.
We *know* that's bollocks. Just because games contain and promote a lot of violent doesnt force anyone to become a killer. We dont all turn into aggressive nerds furiously dissolutioned with the current state of society. Unlike Islam which immediately turns you into a coldblooded killer and should be banned.
For Oberyn to storm into the thread and say 'that's bullshit focusing on only one possible cause (gun control)', then proceed to stand on his soapbox about how Islam is entirely to blame and nothing else is relevant. For example, how this mass shooting isnt really a 'mass shooting', i believe i was accused of being irrelevant by even mentioning mass shootings in general (specifically that i might as well be talking about deaths by road accident or cancer with the same level of relevance lol). Like a cereal box, if you stick a muslim's face on it clearly it stops being a box of cereal.
How hard was your dick when you realised this boring 'another mass shooting in the US' thread (yawn) actually involved a real life muslim?
I noticed nobody has voted for Basketball...WTF
I noticed nobody has voted for Basketball...WTF
The poll is invalid anyways, since ice hockey isn't no.1
We're not black.
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It was armed and dangerous, it should have never been let near the baby.
Oh wait, the gorilla you said?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/14/admit-it-these-terrorists-are-muslims.html
progressive and reasonableGet with the times.
The only way out of being a third world country is Bernie. It's far from over, and seeing as Bernie is winning over Trump in the polls with double digits and Shillary isn't, the super delegates will most likely, I think, see clear on the 25th of July. The entire fucking system is retarded tho. America isn't a demcracy, if the votings happened European style and the entire government wasnt corrupt, Bernie would be leading now, guaranteed.
If everyone in the nightclub had a gun this would have never happened.Everyone in the nightclub had the power to stop this ONE man the second he started shooting, the reason they died is because they were scared, it's nothing to fucking do with having a gun, it's to do with whether they're able to push aside that fear and fight back, if some people had jumped on this fucker and wrestled the gun from him lives could have been saved, but nobody did that. Human fear will always take control, if everyone had a gun all that would have happened is that more civilians would have died due to their hands shaking from all the fear, they would have killed many more civilians before they ACTUALLY hit the guy. Unless you're saying they'd all been trained to wield a firearm, in which case, yes, they probably could have. But forcing this thing which says "WEL IF DEY HAD A GUN NINE ELEVUN NEVUR WUD HAV HAPEND1!11!1" is just fucking retarded, not everyone in the world wants to have a gun, and saying this won't change a bloody thing lol.
Everyone in the nightclub had the power to stop this ONE man the second he started shooting, the reason they died is because they were scared, it's nothing to fucking do with having a gun, it's to do with whether they're able to push aside that fear and fight back, if some people had jumped on this fucker and wrestled the gun from him lives could have been saved, but nobody did that. Human fear will always take control, if everyone had a gun all that would have happened is that more civilians would have died due to their hands shaking from all the fear, they would have killed many more civilians before they ACTUALLY hit the guy. Unless you're saying they'd all been trained to wield a firearm, in which case, yes, they probably could have. But forcing this thing which says "WEL IF DEY HAD A GUN NINE ELEVUN NEVUR WUD HAV HAPEND1!11!1" is just fucking retarded, not everyone in the world wants to have a gun, and saying this won't change a bloody thing lol.
Oh man what a thread. I really missed the wacko boat.
The cause of this act of terror was not the availability of firearms, it was dangerous ideology that we need to fight aggressively at home and abroad. It compounds on the tragedy of this event that people are focusing on scoring points for their political leaning rather than pursuing containment of that ideology which will continue to threaten us.
Even if you think "gun cuntroll" (whatever that means) is a good idea, it isn't legally feasible. You may think it's funny when rednecks and the like yell SECOND AMENDMENT and consider that an argument, but it really is. The Constitution is the highest law in America, all other laws are subject to it. Should a legal challenge be made, it would not survive Constitutional scrutiny ("shall not be infringed" and all that), if the Supreme Court is doing what it is supposed to do (which is not a given, I will admit).
That means that you would need to further amend the Constitution to negate the Second Amendment (which would be circumcising the Bill of Rights and basically amount to a betrayal of American founding values and probably the beginning of some sort of thousand year darkness). To do this you need a supermajority in both chambers of Congress (not happening), and then ratification by three-fourths of State legislatures (even more not happening).
Not at all surprising that a fascist piece of shit would be feeling the Bern (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421369/bernie-sanders-national-socialism).
Thank God that America is not a democracy (a classic Greek idea, like molesting little boys), it's a Constitutional Republic, and you're just another European Nazi who doesn't know what he's talking about (both in substance and scale - until you have one European government stop comparing your old world backwaters to America, have fun sucking Walloon bureaucrat dick by the way). Government corruption doesn't happen nearly as much as conspiracy theorists like you think. I find it pretty laughable that Sanders' only chance resides in the super delegates that he and his followers repeatedly blame for his loss to "the system" (how many more votes has Hillary won now? Three million? lmao). Right now the super delegates are doing their jobs, not that they need to. If the GOP had had them too we'd be much better off.
Shoutout to the other guy that voted for Baseball.
So today a white Britain First supporter shot, stabbed and killed a Labour MP up North.It's shit like this that makes you apologists look retarded.
Bet he was secretly Muslim. It has to be so to support some of the crack pots on here.
It's shit like this that makes you apologists look retarded.
Yes, white people commit crimes in white countries. That can't be helped, and it's to be expected. You can't decide to not bring in people of your own nationality to your country. You can't return them to their country of origin.
"Oh no, a Danish person robbed a bank in Denmark! This means it's okay to bring 500,000 immigrants who rape at 20x higher rate than natives and have a relatively high risk of being/becoming radicalized and turning into mass murderers."
"Oh, you have the flu? Well, your body is already sick with no artificial external help, so let me just inject you with AIDS."
But forcing this thing which says "WEL IF DEY HAD A GUN NINE ELEVUN NEVUR WUD HAV HAPEND1!11!1" is just fucking retarded, not everyone in the world wants to have a gun, and saying this won't change a bloody thing lol.
I mean it doesn't even need to be fifty guns, just five decently trained people would've been great.
Simply pointing out that white terrorism is a thing. There have been plenty of arguments in these threads brushing that under the carpet. Completely ignoring the role of the IRA in the past and other more recent events because it's much easier to say that all terrorists are Muslims.That's not white terrorism, that's a murder. What IRA did or didn't do is beside the point, since it's not bombing shit anymore. Radical Islam wouldn't be talked about either if it was a "well, but do you remember back decades ago when..." thing.
Throw into the mix that fortunately he didn't have free access to guns and assault weapons in particular so was only able to use an, as reported, old gun that stopped working and had to finish the job with a knife and it's quite fortunate he didn't do more harm to those who were trying to help the woman.
That's not white terrorism, that's a murder. What IRA did or didn't do is beside the point, since it's not bombing shit anymore. Radical Islam wouldn't be talked about either if it was a "well, but do you remember back decades ago when..." thing.
Did he even intend to kill anyone but that one particular person? If not, then looks like free access to guns and "assault weapons" wouldn't have mattered.
By the very definition of terrorism, it is terrorism. It doesn't matter how many he tried to kill. He killed someone with a political aim.
He injured a man who was trying to prevent him carrying out the attack. So yeah it would have mattered.
Yes and there lies the undeniable problem. Islam happens to be the only religion that seeks political dominance, which is why there are hundreds of thousands of Islamic terrorist attacks internationally for every one "white" domestic terrorist attack in the western world. I can't think of any other religion that governs every aspect of a nation's laws and government and actively politically persecutes citizens based off of religious beliefs except Islam, just look at the Middle-East ( Israel excluded) and the heart of the Islamic world.
Islam happens to be the only religion that seeks political dominance
By the very definition of terrorism, it is terrorism. It doesn't matter how many he tried to kill. He killed someone with a political aim.That is not the definition of terrorism. That is the definition of an assassination.
That is not the definition of terrorism. That is the definition of an assassination.
That is not the definition of terrorism. That is the definition of an assassination.
Nope it's the definition of terrorism.
'the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.'
So today a white Britain First supporter shot, stabbed and killed a Labour MP up North.
Bet he was secretly Muslim. It has to be so to support some of the crack pots on here.
You're assuming people who own guns just buy them and don't practice with them. Which is true for some, but most people get training or practice a little bit. Also, I think a lot less people would've died if they all had guns. One, the guy would be suppressed at least instead of having free roam to execute everyone. Two, nobody would, hopefully, be standing near the guy so there wouldn't be much collateral damage. Yes, a few people could get hit with "friendly fire", but let's face it, one gun vs fifty, no one is going to shoot up a place against those odds. I mean it doesn't even need to be fifty guns, just five decently trained people would've been great. The shooter probably wasn't even a trained professional either, so yeah. (I didn't read many details about the news story though)
I love your reasoning though. You would prefer people to try to bum rush a guy with a rifle, but you bash people having guns to fight the guy on equal grounds. So you prefer a half assed suicide charge over a half assed shoot out? You know the shooter was probably shaking with adrenaline and fear also, right?
Yes, not everyone in the world wants a gun. That's fine. However, I prefer to take my life in my own hands and protect my loved ones and myself with every means available to me. The people who live in a fantasy world can keep living in it.
Nope it's the definition of terrorism.... No, it's not. Common sense is allowed, you know. Some nutter killing a politician is not "terrorism." There is no grand goal, no organization. And what do you think an assassination is then? Was Kennedy "terrorismed"? Lincoln too? Damn terr'ist got him? Come on. You're trying to argue semantics when there's no point.
'the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.'
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Wrong, he had no affiliation to Britain First, even though they are a bunch of dickheads, he also has no party affiliation that anyone could find, the whole Britain First thing was a myth that was taken down by an eye witness of the murder who posted online, the guy is suspected of having mental illness though.
not everyone wants guns, the people in that club didn't have any, so they didn't have any. That is that.
I'm saying that they could have taken this guy on EVEN without guns.
The latest reports, as of this morning, put him at shouting 'put Britain first' before doing it, that's from multiple news sources.
Now if that had been a Muslim shouting the usual it would be called terrorism not an assassination.
I don't remember the killers of Rigby being mentally unstable in any way. Or any of the thousand other "holy warriors" that are perpetrating attacks all over the globe for purpotedly rational reasons in their eyes. I suppose the problem of islamic terrorism is really one of mental health, hmmm. I guess "arabs", afghans and pakistanis are just likelier than any other culture or people on the entire planet to be unstable loons. Wow, that's much less worrying than to think it may have something to do with the clearly stated tenets of their faith, thanks Overdriven.The Middle-East and Africa are both lower average IQ areas by any measurements out there, compared to Asia (highest IQ) and Europe. Apparantly, it's the same picture when comparing South America to North America, the average IQ in the US will fall as immigration from the south to the north intensifies.
The Middle-East and Africa are both lower average IQ areas by any measurements out there, compared to Asia (highest IQ) and Europe. Apparantly, it's the same picture when comparing South America to North America, the average IQ in the US will fall as immigration from the south to the north intensifies.
A plethora of unfortunate traits seem to usually follow from lower average IQ, such as destitution, crime, religiosity, violence, a lack of democracy (in nations with an average IQ below 90), failing infrastructure, low social capital etc.
a construct developed in psychometric investigations of cognitive abilities and human intelligence. It is a variable that summarizes positive correlations among different cognitive tasks, reflecting the fact that an individual's performance on one type of cognitive task tends to be comparable to that person's performance on other kinds of cognitive tasks.
Research in the field of behavioral genetics has established that the construct of g is highly heritable. It has a number of other biological correlates, including brain size. It is also a significant predictor of individual differences in many social outcomes, particularly in education and employment. The most widely accepted contemporary theories of intelligence incorporate the g factor.[4]
It's not that kind of IQ, it's the so-called 'g factor', or 'general intelligence'.It's highly correlated with IQ, however. And education doesn't increase IQ or the g factor (which I'm sure you know).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)
This murder reminds of assassination of Anna Lindh, who was killed by some Serbian psycho.
Not everyone need have guns, not everyone want to have guns, or would have had one in that particular instance... POOPHAMMER was satirical when he said "if everyone had a gun".
Lke Jarold said it simply means that in instances where terrorists attacks civilians, the situation would be completely different if some of the civilians were armed.
To be able to kill and wound a hundred while being literally alone, the guy needed the people inside the club to be completely unarmed, else he would have been assfucked in minutes :wink:
Though I agree with Yeldur, sometimes even unarmed civilians can save the day. There was numerous times when people intervened and defused a situation that could have caused as much casualties as in Orlando. For example the attempted terrorist attack in 2015 in a train in France, where a gunman was restrained while carrying hundreds of ammunition and an assault rifle; if he had been able to unleash all his firepower without resistance he would have done "as well" as in Orlando...
Still a much safer way to "counter" terrorists is to let willing, trained, law-abiding civilians to carry guns. As simple as.
Well it came out that he used a 1 shot gun. Possibly even a musket. So gun control has naught to do with it. You clearly haven't read back very far as I've already stated if he had access to more high powered weaponry it would probably have been worse for those trying to help her.
He had a political ideology, and that's likely the reason behind the attack. The MP had already been receiving alarming messages in relation to her stance on the EU ect and as a result they were already considering giving her extra security.
He was also supposedly mentally unstable as the Orlando shooter likely was as well. Anyone who can carry out these attacks has something wrong with them. Although there was only 1 victim with this one the attack was pretty damn brutal. He shot her in the head then grabbed her by the hair and repeatedly stabbed her.
As usual
your trying to pull arguments out of thin air based on zilch.
A little more on the shooter Thomas Mair: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/17/jo-cox-suspect-thomas-mair-bought-gun-manuals-from-us-neo-chocolate chip cookies-group-claims
fucking fuck berenger ,all muslims aren't the same just because 1 people attacked gay bar doesn't means that all muslims are mean.You are making a generalization,fucking cancer shit,you better generalize the event a bit more and deem all humanity guilty for gay bar massacre,if you are not going to do that,count your father as a muslim because he also did shitty job in planting ur seed into ur mom's uterus.
fucking fuck berenger ,all muslims aren't the same just because 1 people attacked gay bar doesn't means that all muslims are mean.You are making a generalization,fucking cancer shit,you better generalize the event a bit more and deem all humanity guilty for gay bar massacre,if you are not going to do that,count your father as a muslim because he also did shitty job in planting ur seed into ur mom's uterus.
Yes, the Danish government wondered why in Copenhagen the birth rates of handicapped children have risen 100% in 10 years. A commitee was set to examine it and it turned out that (according the BT http://www.bt.dk/nyheder/indvandreres-indavl-koster-millioner) approximately a third of the heavily handicapped children come from Muslim families, though they only make up around 13% of the total children in the municipality. Leaflets have been circulated to various mosques in the area, warning against cousin marriages, which is pointed to as one of the probable causes for the overpresentation in this milieu, while the health budget for the handicap sector has been exceeded by 43 million, with an original budget of 1.2 billion.