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Title: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: //saxon on March 05, 2016, 07:43:31 pm
Can anyone give me a link to a free live stream for this fight? cheers  8-)
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Golem on March 05, 2016, 08:21:40 pm
Is this free? Might need a VPN.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: LordBerenger on March 05, 2016, 11:57:13 pm
Can anyone give me a link to a free live stream for this fight? cheers  8-)

Spoiler Alert: Conor McPussy wins via 2nd round early stoppage TKO. And Holly Holm wins via decision. There. No need to watch it.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Golem on March 06, 2016, 06:31:33 am
Spoiler Alert: Conor McPussy wins via 2nd round early stoppage TKO. And Holly Holm wins via decision. There. No need to watch it.
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Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: LordBerenger on March 06, 2016, 07:45:21 am
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Yep. I admit I went full retard. Never doubt Diaz brothers over great white hopes. Unless it's GSP.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Golem on March 06, 2016, 12:21:13 pm
Yep. I admit I went full retard. Never doubt Diaz brothers over great white hopes. Unless it's GSP.
Conor would still win if he didn't take it to the ground, I think. He should've mantained distance and stay on the defense, preparing a BLAM out of nowhere to take Diaz down, but he didn't plan for the fight to go that way and was in no state to improvise at the end. He looked like he just chugged a gallon of whiskey, when he started wobbling, fucking hilarious.
There was also a chance for him to end the fight in the first round, when Diaz left himself exposed for Conors left hand and honestly it might have been a bait, but I think it's more likely Conor wanted to make a big fight of it to make up for Aldo and that cost him the ultimate price.
Cutting weight again is a stupid move, he should stay where he is and get gud, let them take the belt, he can take it back, when he's also got the lightweight belt. His decision to return to defend it, just erases all the hype and unpredictability.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 06, 2016, 12:28:49 pm
Someone link free coverage of the fight in russian plz... too lazy to pirate bay right now :s

I know I've been shit talking about the lack or anything good left in these forums BUT if you link free stream of the fight my faith will be restored by a proportional degree based on sound quality and video quality <3

Faith not restored.. I had to find them myself you lazy assholes  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 06, 2016, 01:28:28 pm
found one in old grainy filmstyle video and spanish. Ill take it  8-)

So fucking beautiful

Nate diaz just beats the shit out of him there towards the end there and then mcgreggor takes the fight to the ground and gets pounded
Glorious.

Anyone got a picture of mcgreggor's face when he hands over his treasured belt?

This one is pretty bad quality at some parts... lots of skipping like whoever recorded had trouble streaming... Luckily that epic fucking submission by tate at the end is nice n smooth quality. That shit was fucking epic.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Teeth on March 06, 2016, 02:02:22 pm
Don't look on YouTube. I don't know shit about UFC, but women MMA looks so clumsy, every strike and kick is telegraphed for 3 seconds. It looks nothing like the high quality motor control in the male fight.

http://forum.mmatd.com/f1-f38/holly-holm-vs-miesha-tate-t85276.html
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 06, 2016, 02:20:42 pm
Don't look on YouTube. I don't know shit about UFC, but women MMA looks so clumsy, every strike and kick is telegraphed for 3 seconds. It looks nothing like the high quality motor control in the male fight.

http://forum.mmatd.com/f1-f38/holly-holm-vs-miesha-tate-t85276.html

I disagree... That tate submission was way more epic than diaz getting mcgreggor... And trust me I wanted to see mcgreggor go down more than anything. I only mildly wanted to see holmes go down.
It is definitely different female fights and male fights, but one thing you gotta understand is the female body is more suseptible to pain. The thing about the holmes/tate fight was that holmes is dominate at counter attacking while miesha tate is worse at striking, so both of them seemed a little reserved to an extent. But when they went to the ground it was awesome... tate elbows dropping on holme and that choke at the end. gloorrious.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Molly on March 06, 2016, 02:56:37 pm
His ego got into his way in the Diaz fight. Cocky Irish idiot... -.-
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 06, 2016, 05:12:31 pm
Anyone got a picture of mcgreggor's face when he hands over his treasured belt?

He isn't handing over any belts. He's still the champion.

The result of that fight: 15+ million dollars for Conor, 1 loss at a division he doesn't fight in, and hype train derailed until he builds himself up again.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Turkhammer on March 06, 2016, 06:22:54 pm
Don't look on YouTube. I don't know shit about UFC, but women MMA looks so clumsy, every strike and kick is telegraphed for 3 seconds. It looks nothing like the high quality motor control in the male fight.

http://forum.mmatd.com/f1-f38/holly-holm-vs-miesha-tate-t85276.html

Oh I would love to see most men on this planet, in their weight class, step into the ring with either of these clumsy, slow women.



Anyone got a picture of mcgreggor's face when he hands over his treasured belt?


Real MMA fan huh Hans?
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 06, 2016, 07:41:29 pm
He isn't handing over any belts. He's still the champion.

The result of that fight: 15+ million dollars for Conor, 1 loss at a division he doesn't fight in, and hype train derailed until he builds himself up again.

Apparently it's a division he does fight in. Not like people forced him into a weight division he didn't want to go into. He choose this and he got served.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Turkhammer on March 06, 2016, 11:48:55 pm
Apparently it's a division he does fight in. Not like people forced him into a weight division he didn't want to go into. He choose this and he got served.

What's yer point?

It kind of dismisses Berenger's argument that he's a pussy.  (the idea of calling any professional mma fighter a pussy is laughable) He's willing to fight bigger and heavier opponents.  Rather than sit back and just wait for challengers for the belt that he won from Aldo he stepped up to try a higher weight class.  That sounds like a warrior. 
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 05:07:53 am
What's yer point?

It kind of dismisses Berenger's argument that he's a pussy.  (the idea of calling any professional mma fighter a pussy is laughable) He's willing to fight bigger and heavier opponents.  Rather than sit back and just wait for challengers for the belt that he won from Aldo he stepped up to try a higher weight class.  That sounds like a warrior.

I'm just countering xant's quote where he says "1 loss at a division he doesn't fight in"... which is basically the excuse connor keeps making for his loss in the post fight conference.

If he chooses to fight in a certain weight division, he shouldn't use the change required in cutting or gaining as an excuse for his loss. That's just poor sportsmanship.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Turkhammer on March 07, 2016, 05:30:40 am
I'm just countering xant's quote where he says "1 loss at a division he doesn't fight in"... which is basically the excuse connor keeps making for his loss in the post fight conference.

If he chooses to fight in a certain weight division, he shouldn't use the change required in cutting or gaining as an excuse for his loss. That's just poor sportsmanship.

Far as I know the only explanation he's (Conor) made is that he did not use his energy in the most efficient way, whatever that means.  I don't think he's made any excuses.  He said Diaz was better that day.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Golem on March 07, 2016, 05:37:37 am
I'm just countering xant's quote where he says "1 loss at a division he doesn't fight in"... which is basically the excuse connor keeps making for his loss in the post fight conference.

If he chooses to fight in a certain weight division, he shouldn't use the change required in cutting or gaining as an excuse for his loss. That's just poor sportsmanship.
How many fights did he do in that division? That's right, 1. He doesn't fight in that division. Period.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 07:53:18 pm
Far as I know the only explanation he's (Conor) made is that he did not use his energy in the most efficient way, whatever that means.  I don't think he's made any excuses.  He said Diaz was better that day.
I guess it's a matter of opinion and how one chooses to take his words. I'll say this: he was more graceful with his loss than I expected, but nowhere near as graceful at taking the loss as holly holmes.
"...Usually I fight a man in the division I am champion in and they crumble under those shots but nate took them very well, the weight I think allowed him to take those shots very well."

How many fights did he do in that division? That's right, 1. He doesn't fight in that division. Period.

So basically you're saying:
He fought in that division, he doesn't fight in that division. period.
 :lol:

"I am not forgetting about the 155 division, I'm certainly not forgetting about the 170 division..." ~mcgregor in the post fight ufc 196 press conference

Sounds to me like he is still open to fighting in lightweight and welterweight.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 08:05:05 pm
There is a difference between having fought one fight in a division and fighting, present tense, in a division. He does not fight in 170. It was a one time thing because Nate couldn't make 155 or 160.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 08:34:14 pm
So how many fights exactly does he have to do in welterweight to be considered a division that he fights in?

Does a 2nd fight in welterweight mean he fights in that division? Does he only fight in that division after 5 or more bouts in welterweight?

Who decides these things?
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 08:57:00 pm
Facepalm.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Turkhammer on March 07, 2016, 09:04:00 pm
I guess it's a matter of opinion and how one chooses to take his words. I'll say this: he was more graceful with his loss than I expected, but nowhere near as graceful at taking the loss as holly holmes.
"...Usually I fight a man in the division I am champion in and they crumble under those shots but nate took them very well, the weight I think allowed him to take those shots very well."



Umm, he's stating a fact.  He's fought in a division where his size and weight compared to his opponents allowed his strikes to be more effective.  I think he was analyzing why he punched himself out but still could not stop Diaz with punches.  He also stated that he was in panic mode at one point.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 09:10:02 pm
Facepalm.

Yep you can't even answer that because there is no valid answer other than this:
If he does one fight in that division, then henceforth it is a weight division he has fought in. If he plans to fight more in that division (which he stated he does multiple times), that makes it a division he fights in.

It wasn't a one time thing. Unless you think McGreggor is lying to the public and you know his true plans to shy away from any future fights in welterweight division?
He might have a championship belt in featherweight, but he also fights in lightweight and welterweight. Not sure how you can argue otherwise but feel free.

Umm, he's stating a fact.  He's fought in a division where his size and weight compared to his opponents allowed his strikes to be more effective.  I think he was analyzing why he punched himself out but still could not stop Diaz with punches.  He also stated that he was in panic mode at one point.
Excuses can also be facts. It's like a basketball team playing an away game in another arena, and attributing their loss to the fact that the stadium was different than what they are used to in their home court... It might be fact that it played a roll in their loss, but it's also an excuse and poor sportsmanship. It's like saying they didn't lose because the other team was better, but rather they lost because of the home court advantage. (even though nate diaz has fought more lightweight matches than welterweight so its not really his home court either.).
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 09:12:41 pm
Apparently both English and common sense are very hard for you to understand.

Planning to become a President of the United States doesn't make the President of the United States.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 09:15:10 pm
Apparently both English and common sense are very hard for you to understand.

Planning to become a President of the United States doesn't make the President of the United States.

Mcgregor didn't plan to fight in welterweight, HE DID FIGHT IN WELTERWEIGHT!

Apparently reality is very hard for you to grasp.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 09:18:51 pm
Mcgregor didn't plan to fight in welterweight, HE DID FIGHT IN WELTERWEIGHT!

Apparently reality is very hard for you to grasp.
The fight was nominally in welterweight because it was a 10 day notice with another lightweight fighter. Two lightweights fighting at 170lbs. But I never denied that he had one fight in "welterweight", you absolute moron. You can go back and read http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/conor-mcgregor-vs-nate-diaz-live-stream/msg1209953/#msg1209953 until it percolates through your thick skull and you finally understand it.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 09:24:11 pm
The fight was nominally in welterweight because it was a 10 day notice with another lightweight fighter. Two lightweights fighting at 170lbs. But I never denied that he had one fight in "welterweight", you absolute moron. You can go back and read http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/conor-mcgregor-vs-nate-diaz-live-stream/msg1209953/#msg1209953 until it percolates through your thick skull and you finally understand it.

You are really bad at debating any kind of argument on any level.
Your comparison of planning to be president of united states doesn't make a president of united states is completely asinine. Were not talking about plans here we're talking about an actual welterweight fight that just happened, put on your thick glasses and squint those nerdy eyes to make out a glimpse of reality.

You can't even answer the question of how many fights he has to do in welterweight for it to be considered a division he fights in.

please  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 09:33:06 pm
There's a reason no one agrees with you, and it's not because of your awesome MMA knowledge mr. "when Conor gives his belt to Nate."

Conor is fighting in the 170 division when he fights 170 fighters.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 09:36:40 pm
Yeah I would change the subject too if I couldn't form any kind of valid points to support my argument.  8-)

There, there Xant. Better luck next time.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 09:37:15 pm
I changed the subject? Okay then, buddy. Whatever makes you feel better.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 09:54:16 pm
Yeah you changed the subject. The original subject was you saying that welterweight is not a division Conor fights in and my asking you "when does it become a division conor fights in?".
In all your posts since you have failed to answer the question or explain any sort of valid argument of why you think the division in which Conor just fought in, and a division he plans to fight in later in future matches, is a division he does not fight in.

Instead you would prefer to change the subject to a ignorant remark I made about wanting to see a picture of conor handing over his belt. Yep I'm no MMA expert like you, sorry to break it to you:

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Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 09:55:37 pm
I answered the question on last page, derpy.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 10:06:21 pm
So then I guess we can summarize this entire argument as follows:

...1 loss at a division he doesn't fight in...
He does not fight in 170.

So how many fights exactly does he have to do in welterweight to be considered a division that he fights in?

Conor is fighting in the 170 division when he fights 170 fighters.

Good argument xant, you win.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 10:15:07 pm
Thank you, it makes perfect sense to anyone who actually knows something about MMA.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Golem on March 07, 2016, 10:19:11 pm
So how many fights exactly does he have to do in welterweight to be considered a division that he fights in?

Does a 2nd fight in welterweight mean he fights in that division? Does he only fight in that division after 5 or more bouts in welterweight?

Who decides these things?
LEARN SOME ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, THIS IS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHIT

HE FOUGHT ONE FIGHT THEREFORE FOUGHT IS THE CORRECT VERB
HE ISNT FIGHTING RIGHT NOW SO FIGHTING IS OUT OF QUESTION
HE DOESN'T FIGHT THERE REGULARLY THEREFORE IT CAN'T BE FIGHT
"What is it then, Golem? I'm out of my element here."

GLAD YOU ASSKED!
HE FOUGHT ONE FIGHT THEREFORE FOUGHT IS THE CORRECT VERB

JESUS
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 10:21:33 pm
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Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 10:51:49 pm
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HE FOUGHT ONE FIGHT THEREFORE FOUGHT IS THE CORRECT VERB
HE ISNT FIGHTING RIGHT NOW SO FIGHTING IS OUT OF QUESTION
HE DOESN'T FIGHT THERE REGULARLY THEREFORE IT CAN'T BE FIGHT


Ok so one fight = fought in that division
multiple fights even if "HE ISNT FIGHTING RIGHT NOW..." = he fights in that division

When McGregor does another fight in welterweight will it then switch to "he fights in that division"? Or does it take more than 2 bouts to be considered regularly?


What about a new up and coming MMA fighter who only has done one pro fight in, lets say, lightweight.
So would we say "He doesn't fight in lightweight division... He FOUGHT in lightweight division because it was only one round and not multiple rounds regularly.


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Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 11:03:31 pm
Nate Diaz = lightweight
Conor McGregor = featherweight champ, going up to lightweight

Conor would not have fought someone who actually fights in the welterweight division. He is not big enough yet. It is not a division he fights in, the fight was made at 170 because Nate could not start cutting soon enough. I'm not sure how much simpler I can make this for Sir_Simpleton. Having one fight at 170 because your fellow lightweight fighter can't make the cut because of short notice doesn't make you a welterweight fighter. It doesn't mean you fight in the welterweight division. It means you have one fight, because of special circumstances, at 170 lbs, against someone who is not welterweight either. He does not weigh as much as people in the welterweight division do.

As for your retarded question, an "up and coming fighter" with one fight in the LW division would be a LW fighter, because it's the division he fights it, it's how much he weighs at weigh in nights, and it's the division he's going to be fighting in.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Sir_Hans on March 07, 2016, 11:13:21 pm
The thing is though assuming you take conor's words as truth, its not a one time thing.
He stated his plans to do more fights in welterweight and he is completely open to exploring heavier weight divisions.

You say "hes not big enough yet" "he does not weight as much as people in welterweight division do". but he came in at 168 in the weigh ins.

The thing is you used the reasoning that "1 fight in a division he does not fight in." as a valid reason for his loss but mcgregors own words

"weight should never be an issue, champions should be able to go up and down and fight any challenge that comes before them" ~ McGregor @ the 196 weigh ins.
Title: Re: Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz live stream?
Post by: Xant on March 07, 2016, 11:19:55 pm
Him saying that he might do it is not the same as him doing it. Dozens of fighters have talked about moving to upper weightclasses and not done it. And more importantly, note the difference between "has", "is" and "will."

He is going up to lightweight, he has been fighting as a featherweight in the UFC.