Fortunatly UK is not a full gunny country like stupid U.S... the mad guy had only a knife. And Policemen tazed him easily. No need of gun for that.
The proof of superiority of non violent society.
Imagine a full armed population in the subway.... how many kills ?
You see a black guy taking his phone in his poket BANG BANG !! 2 bullets in his muslim head ! "Policemen, he was black and muslim ! That is a reason to kill him ! He moved his hand under his suit !"....
how can normal pple think like this ?
Just make the count : how many muslims in england / how many crimes related to islam ?
Don't make the mistake oh blinded hating point of view guided by fear. That is how fanatics think.
Oberyn and xant are HAPPY when it happens.. just because they think they are right... they are happy about chaos ! They are terrorists !
Put them in jail ! :rolleyes:
Oh ? and African are more primitive cause they live in mud villages eh ?And how about the extremely wealthy empirates that are allied to the West? We exploit them too? Yet they buy their countries stability, harass their women and have slaveworkers building footballstadiums for them.
These countries are porr because our amazing superior civilization exploited them and devastaed them during centuries....
The matter isn't Islam, it is religion (all of them) + lack of education.
They think muslims are evil.
When muslim mad kills someone they are happy
because "yeah we are right ! Muslims are evil ! look !"
so they love chaos
so they are terrorist
so enjail them !
EZ
We should worry about the REAL problem this will cause, that poor innocent muslims will have their shit religion criticized. Dumb cunt screaming "You're not a muslim!!" to the machete wielding murderer, zero fucks given about the victim, zero fucks given about the violence, what really worries them is the repercussions on THEIR people, screw the dumbass dhimmis and kuffars who still call them "british" as if they had a feeling of brotherhood for anyone but other muslims. Even the "moderates" are a symptom of a sickness, the death of civilizations that have lasted more than a thousand years only to fall victim to the self-loathing and weakness of suicidal idiots.
I seriously hope you get your throat slit like the dumb fucking sheep you are.Jeez, Oberyn, however strongly you may disagree with Pepe, why go full madman at him? I seriously hope you don't seriously hope that some person you disagree with would die.
2 crazy pple with gun legally purchased in USA : 14 death, many woundeds
1 crazy guy with knife in forbidden-guns country of UK : 1 death, 2 woundeds
a few crazy pple with guns in a forbidden-guns country of France: over 120 dead, over 350 wounded
AND YOU STILL THINK ABOUT GUNPOWER SAFETY IN CIVILIAN HANDS ????
Jeez, Oberyn, however strongly you may disagree with Pepe, why go full madman at him? I seriously hope you don't seriously hope that some person you disagree with would die.
. I seriously hope you get your throat slit like the dumb fucking sheep you are.
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You see : LOVE is stronger than HATE.
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Oh god. With pepe as the defender of reason we are truly lost. Thanks to his incompetence the Xantobantz and Oberantz of this world will convince the weak-willed to take action against all mudslimes because everyone of them is a potential threat. Thanks to that IS manages to convince even "moderate"1 mudslimes that the West wants to get rid of all mudslimes. Actual war starts. cRPG-players get stomped because they bring swords to gun fights. Terrorists win.
gj pepe
1: they don't exist tho
Can I get a little off-topic/less serious and point out that katm.co.uk article about it had a picture which was literally titled "stabbbbb.jpg"?
http://i1.wp.com/katm.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/stabbbbb.jpg?resize=300%2C178 (http://i1.wp.com/katm.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/stabbbbb.jpg?resize=300%2C178)
We should worry about the REAL problem this will cause, that poor innocent muslims will have their shit religion criticized. Dumb cunt screaming "You're not a muslim!!" to the machete wielding murderer, zero fucks given about the victim, zero fucks given about the violence, what really worries them is the repercussions on THEIR people, screw the dumbass dhimmis and kuffars who still call them "british" as if they had a feeling of brotherhood for anyone but other muslims. Even the "moderates" are a symptom of a sickness, the death of civilizations that have lasted more than a thousand years only to fall victim to the self-loathing and weakness of suicidal idiots.Just read recently about David Pizarro's series of psychological tests (the 'Kill Whitey' study) in the US to see whether people (here self-described liberals and conservatives in the American sense) hold an absolutist moral code or a utilitarian moral code. In an absolutist code an act's morality doesn't depend on context or secondary consequences, whereas a utilitarian code do take context and secondary consequences into account, for example whether taking one life can save more lives.
You lose the fight.You should go win some UFC championships with your love.
violent racist agressions my family, friends and myself have suffered at the hands of poor opressed muslim cunts
exploiting every murder they commit for your agenda doesn't make you any different then muslim extremists Xant :*Yea, well, I dare say Xant didn't stab anyone for some fairy tale book/dude and I assume neither did he blow himself up, along with 12 other people...
The holy books of the Islamic religion are littered with violent, misogynistic, and myopic attitudes and language which are incompatible with Western culture, and which are prescribed to by far, far too many Muslims to ignore. To deny the vicious and morally reprehensible content in these books, and to engage in these mental acrobatics to try and excuse the way hundreds and hundreds of millions of Muslim people support these ideas is hypocritical, ignorant, and pathetic.but... but... First Testament... :3
Reference the polls published by Pell, Gallup, and Zogby on the attitudes of Muslims towards traditional violence and violent rejection of western culture and life.
Yea, well, I dare say Xant didn't stab anyone for some fairy tale book/dude and I assume neither did he blow himself up, along with 12 other people...
That kinda makes a difference. :|
exploiting every murder they commit for your agenda doesn't make you any different then muslim extremists Xant :*Congratulations, that's the most retarded thing I've read this week.
You see there is your logic failure. there are always some autists born in this world. just because it happens after bob said so the pesticide is not necessary its cause.
Bob says using X pesticide will cause autism in children. Joe says no it won't. A year later, Prpavi is born. Bob says "see, I told you it causes autism." Joe says "for fuck's sake, how can you be so callous as to use this tragic event to further your agenda???" *continues using X pesticide and more autists are born*
You see there is your logic failure. there are always some autists born in this world. just because it happens after bob said so the pesticide is not necessary its cause.You do know what an analogy is, right?
this exact same logic failiure is seen a lot in the current discussion about islam and refugies. But fear hinders the brain to function in a logic way. Fear triggers the flight or fight mecanism.. this is why fearsome people first want to close all borders and lock themselve in a save place( flight) or start attacking random people with different background or light up refugieshelters(fight).
But it is funny to see that you Xant who always talks like you are strong and fearless react in this way.
Yes. but if an analogy is based on a logic mistake than anlog to this the whole argument might be based on a logic mistake.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
We should worry about the REAL problem this will cause, that poor innocent muslims will have their shit religion criticized.Stop being so negative Oberyn. Diversity, tolerance and multiculturalism will be your shield, you don't need guns. The Muslim couple who shot up a bunch of disabled people in wheelchairs at a holiday party in California was just "job related", they forgot to bring out the falafel.
You are just scared..... afraid pple...
I can't blame you... Fear is natural for poorminded men.
Just hide into your white racist fortress and close the door... lock it. Stay inside with your friends.
WE don't need weapons cauz WE have no fear. That makes great difference with you !
You are just scared..... afraid pple...
I can't blame you... Fear is natural for poorminded men.
Just hide into your white racist fortress and close the door... lock it. Stay inside with your friends.
WE don't need weapons cauz WE have no fear. That makes great difference with you !
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Pepe, your stupidity is astonishing. Btw, aren't you a teacher? I feel sorry for your pupils...
The ennemy is violence and hate, the evil is ALL RELIGIONS, not culture or pepole.
You are right. But Islam is religion. The 2(culture and religion) coexsist side-by-side. Always together. And thats why it is primitive. If you ripped the religion part out of it, its nothing even similar to islam anymore.
Actual Spain is magnificient BECAUZE of the islamic culture period too....
This is Cordoba :
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It was a mosquee... The islamic sattes in spain were as lovable as catholic states of Europe...
Just learn some history and stop thinking you are the center of the world...
The ennemy is violence and hate, the evil is ALL RELIGIONS, not culture or pepole.
The ennemy is violence and hate, the evil is ALL RELIGIONS, not culture or pepole.
If you put catholicism, orthodox, hebraism and boodism with it I agree. I can take the trash box opened while you thow these shits inside ok !
Pepe, your stupidity is astonishing. Btw, aren't you a teacher? I feel sorry for your pupils...
you attack me on my personal life and job.
Where were you when Butan and Heskey literally laughed at and belittled the violent racist agressions my family, friends and myself have suffered at the hands of poor opressed muslim cunts, you hypocrite piece of shit?I was, you know, probably sitting at home listening to some music or doing something else than reading through the pages in muslim-related threads on this forum.
Good Muslims don't negate the fact that Islam itself has never been reformed to fit into modern western society like every other major religion. If it's not blatantly obvious yet the radical Muslims hide behind the good Muslims and the institution of the religion is used as a safe-place for this anti-western rhetoric to take place and inspire these type of attacks. It makes perfect sense to criticize the religion as a whole for what it is, and what it produces.Absolutely. And yet, you can criticize the religion, but you don't have to blame all the people worshiping this religion, it's two different stories, wouldn't you agree?
Absolutely. And yet, you can criticize the religion, but you don't have to blame all the people worshiping this religion, it's two different stories, wouldn't you agree?
You can judge a religion by people worshiping it, but you shouldn't judge people by their religion.
That's what Pepe means IMO, and I can agree with that as well.
And that's exactly the problem, and why these attacks will continue. They don't criticize the religion, they protect it and create excuses for it when it's blatantly churning out terrorists under the same protection as reformed religions who do none of the same. A very small percentage of terrorists does not mean the dangerous rhetoric is not plentiful in all these mosques.The way I see it, Islam as well as other religions consists of many different things written down in that holy script or the other, a person being muslim doesn't nesessarily agree with all of them, and I'm sure most of them don't accept the dangerous rhetoric you're talking about, while they do defend their religion in general. But I'm not an expert in Islam nor any other religious stuff, so my opinion on that matter may not be valid.
A very very small percentage of people join the military, less than 1% of many nation's populations. A very small percentage of Muslims are terrorists, they are downplaying the blatantly obvious dangers of allowing this religion to be an open recruiting ground for terrorists everywhere. If less than 1% of all Muslims are terrorists that is still a huge number. 0.5% of all Muslims accepting extreme ideology = 7,500,000 potential terrorists, larger than the US or Russian Army.
The way I see it, Islam as well as other religions consists of many different things written down in that holy script or the other, a person being muslim doesn't nesessarily agree with all of them, and I'm sure the majority of them don't accept the dangerous rhetoric you're talking about, while they do defend their religion in general. But I'm not an expert in Islam nor any other religious stuff, so my opinion on that matter may not be valid.
Other than that, what you basically say is Islam can be dangerous for certain people, and I agree with that, but you can't very well make it illegal or something, so the only way out (from my sleepy point of view) is education and overall life quality improvement.
A couple days ago a 'lone wolf' terrorist attack in the states resulted in the gunning down of numerous innocent people, due to the fact that these weapons are much harder to acquire in the UK than in any US state this attack had only 3 victims and the perpetrator will face justice of law.Yeah, completely ignore Paris, will you? Of course, classic apologist tactic, cherry pick your examples and pretend nothing else exists.
Considering the 2.7+ million Muslims in the UK I would say that the one knife crime incident that occurred which involved a recourse to the defence of Syrians or Islam is probably more to do with current events (syria bombing campaign / cali shooting / paris etc.) than being an 'actual' terrorist attack such as the 7/7 bombings.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
There shouldn't be Shariah courts in Europe, there shouldn't be known-terrorist suspects preaching at mosques under the guise of freedom of religion etc.
There is absolutely no order or structure to Islam once separation of state and religion is in effect, so there is none regulating what interpretation of Islam is being taught.
Christian Churches have a hierarchy. Priests, bishops and upper hierarchy and a central authority figure and many organizations. Islam has no such structure, anyone can be elected Imam or appointed from an outside country's state authority, scholars and Sharia court judges are also communally appointed.
There isnt?
If there is, its entirely due to incompetent/underfunded police. There is already plenty of laws that are ready to jail people preaching the wrong thing, its finding the culprits thats hard.
Actually not strictly true. Look at the case of Abu Hamza in the UK. The UK had been trying to extradite him to the US to face charges for around a decade simply because the EU human rights courts wouldn't allow it.I mean fuck, that guy's got a hook hand as well. He's just the epitome of what a crazy person looks like. Why would it take that long to kick him the fuck out.
This despite the UK courts ruling that he should be extradited. The problem is all these people have to do is run to the EU courts and it puts a block on anything your country can do. And then it costs millions in legal battles. The process took from 2007-2012 just in the EHCR which is ridiculous.
Actually not strictly true. Look at the case of Abu Hamza in the UK. The UK had been trying to extradite him to the US to face charges for around a decade simply because the EU human rights courts wouldn't allow it.
This despite the UK courts ruling that he should be extradited. The problem is all these people have to do is run to the EU courts and it puts a block on anything your country can do. And then it costs millions in legal battles. The process took from 2007-2012 just in the EHCR which is ridiculous.
It might be my Dixieland sensibilities, but boy, the EU has the stench of an incompetent and unnecessary organization. It would be different if a great need existed for military cooperation among mainland European nations, but NATO has the great threats quite deterred. At least for the time being.lol
I mean fuck, that guy's got a hook hand as well. He's just the epitome of what a crazy person looks like. Why would it take that long to kick him the fuck out.
What's wrong with having a hook hand? Are you on fairy dust again?
And now for ignorant who talk about POITIERS, just some informations :
https://quartierslibres.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/charles-martel-imposture-historique-et-mythe-fasciste/
It was not an "Islamic invasion", only few raids from spain-arabs. they started before and continue after Poitiers with no difference. Charles Martel didn't stop annexion or conquest, he just stopped few pirates who were looting big cities in Frankia and they still looted cities after that.
Only fascists and hainous nationalists use the reference of CHARLES MARTEL ou JEANNE D'ARC to feed their hate and fear from "oriental populations"...
My advice :
- learn history
- learn cultures
- love pple
Your fear and your anger will decrease proportionnaly to your knowledge... that is how human evolves. You're still primitive.
Actual Spain is magnificient BECAUZE of the islamic culture period too....
This is Cordoba :
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It was a mosquee... The islamic sattes in spain were as lovable as catholic states of Europe...
Just learn some history and stop thinking you are the center of the world...
The ennemy is violence and hate, the evil is ALL RELIGIONS, not culture or pepole.
Alhambra isn't a mosquee.. it is most beautiful building of the times.
Our poor palaces and castles (U.S pple have no medieval castles you know !) in Europe are good... but less than arabian ones !
They were muslim too at these times... and they made great things we still admire today. Arab influence around Mediterranea is one of best events that occured in far ages.
This is why people shit all over your personal life, because it is incredibly sad that you are a teacher, that you actually think you are knowleadgeable on these subjects when you clearly have substandard, superficial, 10th grade general level at most.
People shit over his personal life because
That's the nature of Internet. Good thing it is about to change, very soon.Ok, I'm baiting. Why is this going to change very soon?
Anonymity on the Internet, of course.
Anonymity on the Internet, of course. Right now you can write whatever you want and get away with it, tomorrow that might not be the case. There will be places like this forum but those places will be under pressure.
There will be places like this forum but those places will be under pressure.Wonder how freedom of expression will be on the new Melee forum. Especially in light of the kind of off-topic debates we have here.
Wonder how freedom of expression will be on the new Melee forum. Especially in light of the kind of off-topic debates we have here.
Less "freedom" with actual forum rules that will be strictly followed by moderators, that's how I imagine it. To help that cause I'll do moderators a favor and stay away from the place.
Good to see proud cuck Heskytime defending the shit that's destroying his own country. LMAOYes, Heskey really is the quintessential cuck.
Britain much destroyed!You and a concept known as present participle need to get acquainted.
You and a concept known as present participle need to get acquainted.You want to speak rather about the continous tense than only the participle tho.