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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Bryggan on June 02, 2015, 06:13:37 am

Title: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 02, 2015, 06:13:37 am
This scoundrel has declared war on my empire.  Like one man taking on many is a war.  Moonshine is a outlaw, a badass, a rogue element.  He is angry at me cuz I sent my police force to his castle, aka Tristan, the Sword of the South.  MoonShine played a bit of a joke on me; demanding Dhirim and Derchios castle in order to keep his friendship.  I counter offered, falling for his bluff.  But, giggling to himself, Moonshine gave me no answer.

So I rattled my sabre back at him.  'Tristan,' I said, 'Go to Moonshine's lands.  Don't attack, but just be there.  Everyone knows you don't piss about.  If Moonshine threatens me, I'll threaten him.  And if he continues, go take Mazigh.  That is the fief I offered to trade Derchios CASTLE for.  Then we'll see how cavalier he is about these negotiations.'

And Tristan did as he was told, and apparently did it very well.  Cuz King Tristan don't dick about, he sends a message loud and clear.

Yet Moonshine and Bryggan still remained friends, cuz they both liked pissing about.  But then Bryggan, avoiding the watchful eye of the Empress, consumed some alcohol gifted to him by Moonshine.  And he found himself blinded.

And that was the ultimate betrayal; the only thing that would make Bryggan want to hunt down his old friend and comrade: he had given him the cheap stuff.  "Damn that bootlegger!" he howled, "I will have his head!  One million silver to anyone who kills him!"

For the actual cause of this kerfuffle, please ask Moonshine to post our rather amusing RP styled steam chat.  And don't even try edit it, Moonshine, cuz I was not really that terribly  drunk that time and I kinda remember what we said!
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 02, 2015, 06:33:30 am
I wouldn't edit anything.  I particularly liked where you said that Blue sleeps with sheep, just to add him into the RP (per your contract).  Going to Wikipedia, editing a page to reflect it, and then using it as a source was genius....  wonder if it's still there. 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 02, 2015, 07:43:54 am
Blue sleeps with whatever he can get his hands on, we all know that.  And Blue admits it himself, quite proudly.

But if you are trying to make yourself the 'innocent', and trying to make me look badder than I already am- cuz I am bad ass, btw- well, you know what I'll do... whine on the forums.  Oh yeah, you know I will.

But in the mean time I'll try hunt you down.  And I'll cry when I kill you.  And I'll cry when I dance on your grave.  And I'll cry when I exhume your body and make a grossly sexual marionette show with your skeleton and that of a goat.  Cuz you're my bud, bud.  Any humiliating situation I throw you in will hurt me more that it hurts you.

Ok, 'nuff trolling, chat with you later/
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 02, 2015, 05:52:57 pm
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Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: poonerplox2 on June 03, 2015, 02:50:37 am
Blue sleeps with whatever he can get his hands on, we all know that.  And Blue admits it himself, quite proudly./

This legitly brought tears to my eyes Bryggan, how could you bend the truth like this. We all know that they have to be female.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 03, 2015, 02:54:02 am
Ok, when will this war get going so I can start rolling in some mercenary cash?  :lol:
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 03, 2015, 10:39:34 am
Ok, when will this war get going so I can start rolling in some mercenary cash?  :lol:
Whenever moonshine stops hiding and meets me on the field of battle
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 03, 2015, 02:41:20 pm
Whenever moonshine stops hiding and meets me on the field of battle

With what? I robbed him blind already. I am a greedy Jew, gotta be quicker to the punch, man.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 03, 2015, 04:26:54 pm
Whenever moonshine stops hiding and meets me on the field of battle

Sure, no problem.  I'm outside Suno.  Let's go Tristan. 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 03, 2015, 08:35:27 pm
Sure, no problem.  I'm outside Suno.  Let's go Tristan.

In EU? It'll take me a bit to get there and I'd prefer it being on NA servers, but if you insist.

With what? I robbed him blind already. I am a greedy Jew, gotta be quicker to the punch, man.
I'm sure he's gotten more gear in the last like 4 months
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 04, 2015, 02:47:11 am
Knowing our dear friend Moonshine, he will do his damndest to lead us on a merry chase.  I would bitch and whine, but I kinda always liked the 'cat and mouse'... except you got set your alarm every twenty minutes to make sure no one quick marches past you in the middle of the night.

That said, we all know Moonshine has declared against the Empire of his BFF just cuz he's bored sitting in the cobwebs of Senuzgda, rusting away.  And thank you Anders, for taking all the gear away- Moonshine is not allowed to be around sharp objects.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 04, 2015, 04:57:50 pm
Jesus christ, I just stumpled past him and he has 1700 shiny. I don't think he's rusting away  :shock:
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Talanarsis on June 04, 2015, 09:27:24 pm
Jesus christ, I just stumpled past him and he has 1700 shiny. I don't think he's rusting away  :shock:

Thats a different moonshine. Maple_Moonshine and THIS Moonshine are not the same person.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: StonedSteel on June 05, 2015, 01:25:05 am
Thats a different moonshine. Maple_Moonshine and THIS Moonshine are not the same person.

ROFL

(he really should change the name already, even i started referring to him as moonshine instead of maple, confused the fuck outta my faction mates)
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 05, 2015, 03:21:23 am
In EU? It'll take me a bit to get there and I'd prefer it being on NA servers, but if you insist.

Still twiddling my thumbs out here.  On your way? 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 05, 2015, 03:37:32 am
Tristan, you'll have a better chance of finding him in Nova Suno on the NA map than you will at Suno in EU.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 05, 2015, 04:20:04 am
SO, does anyone want goods from New Tilbaut for like 2g a piece? Fund your wars with cheap merchandise!
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 05, 2015, 04:32:53 am
Tristan, you'll have a better chance of finding him in Nova Suno on the NA map than you will at Suno in EU.
I could be wrong, but i dont believe Suno is on the NA map
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 05, 2015, 02:17:25 pm
I could be wrong, but i dont believe Suno is on the NA map

There isn't.  So are you on your way?  I'm hoping for a weekend battle. 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 05, 2015, 03:56:23 pm
Thats a different moonshine. Maple_Moonshine and THIS Moonshine are not the same person.

Oh, lol, duh  :oops:
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 05, 2015, 06:05:38 pm
SO, does anyone want goods from New Tilbaut for like 2g a piece? Fund your wars with cheap merchandise!
No, come to Uxhaul i'm GIVING away goods absolutely FREE!!!

Terms and conditions apply, subject to tax on resale
Ok, we're going to have to charge you guys for the advertising space.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 05, 2015, 06:44:17 pm
Ok, we're going to have to charge you guys for the advertising space.

Go Mufasa someone first.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Switchtense on June 05, 2015, 06:55:30 pm
Oh shit, Anakin vs Obi Wan on that SWEET lava planet!!!!!!!!!!!

Loved that planet on Battlefront 2! But hated it on Lego Star Wars.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 05, 2015, 08:18:18 pm
Oh shit, Anakin vs Obi Wan on that SWEET lava planet!!!!!!!!!!!

That would be Mustafar. And yes, it was a fantastic map on BF2, not as great as Kamino though  :)
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: njames89 on June 05, 2015, 10:39:38 pm
Or strike at karkand amirite heheahahehehehaheheh
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 05, 2015, 11:14:50 pm
Or strike at karkand amirite heheahahehehehaheheh

This was a good conversation... until this.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: njames89 on June 05, 2015, 11:46:39 pm
This was a good conversation... until this.

Free of charge just for you Jona  :wink:
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: StonedSteel on June 06, 2015, 02:13:24 am
This was a good conversation... until this.

pfff, like PFFFFFFF there r nioo gud conversation mang fuck it, its all gay

GAY GAY GAY

Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 06, 2015, 03:32:38 am
This was a good conversation... until this.

My thoughts exactly. +1
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 06, 2015, 03:58:14 am
I have no idea what that conversation was.  Wasn't Mufasa the dad in 'The Lion King'?  And I hit play on the gay video, went to get a drink, came back and actually listened to it for about twenty minutes.  Damn.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Switchtense on June 06, 2015, 09:21:16 am
That would be Mustafar. And yes, it was a fantastic map on BF2, not as great as Kamino though  :)

But the shitty rain was awful! If I wanted that much rain I would play cRPG.

Let's face it, Geonosis on Battlefront 1 was the best.

Getting your squad together in a Republic Gunship and fucking everything up without dying once. Sweet memories.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 06, 2015, 09:54:17 am
But the shitty rain was awful! If I wanted that much rain I would play cRPG.

Let's face it, Geonosis on Battlefront 1 was the best.

Getting your squad together in a Republic Gunship and fucking everything up without dying once. Sweet memories.

I loved grabbing my buddies and going for a good ole "no one fucking dies" mission. Rhen Var Harbor and Kashyyk Islands (fuck spelling) were the best maps for that, in addition to Geonosis, of course. In Rhen Var we would play as clone jet troopers, hop into their speeder tank things, and assault the droid-ridden town area. After we captured the first couple of command points shit got real real fast, and thats when the "don't die" part became pretty hard. On Kashyyk we'd hop in a Y-wing and fly out to capture the Empire's CP that spawns their ships, after gunning down all of their ships, of course. Then we'd go on a couple of bombing runs til our ship was almost blown up from all the rocket hits we'd have taken, then jump out of the ship, without properly landing it first, and fall in the thick of it guns blazing. And of course if you're the one to die, you're a chump. If you die first, then I die shortly after, you're still a chump and it's your fault I died, obviously.   :wink:

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Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 06, 2015, 05:19:11 pm
EDIT: Double post sorry  :oops:
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 06, 2015, 05:19:32 pm
But the shitty rain was awful! If I wanted that much rain I would play cRPG.

Let's face it, Geonosis on Battlefront 1 was the best.

Getting your squad together in a Republic Gunship and fucking everything up without dying once. Sweet memories.
Ahh, Geonosis was fun. I only really liked Kamino because me and my brother found the BEST sniping spot that overlooked where the other team came up the ramp and you would just headshot them all  :)

Although, my most epic experience was on Yavin 4, where me and my friend with 2 respawns left held our ground in the huge temple against an army of CIS with 45 repawns left, and a bunch of tanks on top of that. Now THAT was one of those "holy shit we actually just won that" moments.  :D
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 06, 2015, 08:51:50 pm
Guys ready for the third that DICE is making, or no?
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 06, 2015, 09:00:29 pm
Not exactly waiting for it with baited breath.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 06, 2015, 10:11:51 pm
Guys ready for the third that DICE is making, or no?

Too be completely honest, no. First off like 5 companies tried to make BF3 and failed. Also, I feel like they are just going to make it a COD with laser guns and lightsabers.

BF2 was fun because you were able to do super ridiculously stupidly badass stuff like what has been mentioned. Every other shooter since 2009 has brought us crappy shoot em up styles that just do not allow for a player to be a freakin hero.

Except gears of war. Gears of war finally was a good shooter.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 06, 2015, 11:55:56 pm
I like the map where Mario has to jump on the moving platforms.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 07, 2015, 02:17:03 am
I like the map where Mario has to jump on the moving platforms.

Yeah that was a challenging one... when I was like, 4.   :P


Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Switchtense on June 07, 2015, 03:21:23 am
Yeah that was a challenging one... when I was like, 4.   :P

But that game is older than 8 years.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 07, 2015, 03:25:10 am
I like the map where Mario has to jump on the moving platforms.

Oh. My. God. Mario made me rage harder than any other game in history. Those fricken rotation fireball wheel things that you had to jump through in bowser's castle were absolute bull.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Switchtense on June 07, 2015, 03:30:01 am
Oh. My. God. Mario made me rage harder than any other game in history. Those fricken rotation fireball wheel things that you had to jump through in bowser's castle were absolute bull.

That last underwater level was way worse!
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 07, 2015, 03:34:38 am
That last underwater level was way worse!

Oh yeah your right I totally forgot the underwater levels....

Water + 2d mechanics = rage.... always. Donkey kong's polluted pool was just as bad.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 07, 2015, 03:40:16 am
It was a warm summer night in Nova Curaw, and the tavern was crowded.  Ale was flowing, and the patrons were singing.  But in a darker corner of the room sat Bryggan and Blue, pouring over a map.  The map was littered with various pieces.  Some represented cities, some represented trade routes, and then there were the armies of various colors.

"Then there is Moonshine.  We have no idea yet what he is planning..."  Growled Bryggan.  "We have forces here, and here, and we're pushing in on yet another Berzerker force."

At the moment, an out of breath Tristan burst into the room.  'There you are Bryggan!  I have him!  I have it on great authority that he's out by Suno.  It's a long trek, but I can be there in a few weeks.  We can get him!" He raised his fist defiantly as he strode over to their corner.

"Tristan..."

"I know I can do it.  I can ram my sword deep into his stomach, and watch the light fade from his eyes... it will be glorious..."

"Tristan..."

"With him out of the way, I think opposition will falter even further!  We will take all of Calradia!" 

"Tristan!"  Bryggan slammed his fist on the table.  "You have no clue what you are talking about.  Suno is far out of the way, and it would be very unlike Moonshine..."

"Bryggan, I received this!"  He reached into his cloak and pulled out a parchment.  "It's from Moonshine himself!  He has challenged me to battle!"

"Tristan, I've received reports from Camulos that Moonshine was at New Shulus.  I heard from Albus that he's in the Steppes.  There were reports that he purchased a large order of ales from Sargoth, and Sharpe's special blend out of Veluca.  I have even heard he died."  Bryggan sighed.  "You need to understand, not every enemy charges up the middle.  Moonshine is a flank fighter.  He attacks from the shadows, and causes misdirection among the army he faces.  He lets you see what he wants you to see."

"But...Bryggan, he signed this by his own hand.  He challenged me out in the fields of Suno..."  A frown crossed the great Lord's face.  He brow furrowed in thought.  "Surely he'd keep his word and face me..."

"Do what you wish.  But if he said Suno, he'd be more likely to attack Nova Suno, and you'd be the fool to chase him out to the other..."

"Regardless, I do not need permission.  I will find him, and bring you his head."  Tristan folded up the parchment, and put it back in his cloak.  "Then we will see who the greater fool is."  He turned and left.

At that point, Blue couldn't contain himself.  "Oh, I don't we need to SEE who that is.."  His laughter drowned out into the noise as the crowd, as he finished his ale.  Just then, a figure appeared with three mugs.

"I've got Squid's Demise for Lord Blue, chadzian ale for Bryggan, and a half finished water for myself."  The figure sat down, and pulled back his cowl.  He stared intently at the High King.  A smirk slowly spread out across his face.

"Moonshine!"  Bryggan hissed, as he reached for his sword.  Blue on the other hand, reached for the mug.

"Aye, now stay your hand.  If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead.  But that wouldn't be much fun now would it."  A slow smile spread across the old man's face.  "Now then, Shulus, Sargoth, Veluca, and of course, Suno...  Good scouts you have.  I've paid them well, and those that wouldn't accept payment are long buried."

"Why are you here?" 

"For your surrender of course.  I'd like the HCE to dissolve, and for the warring armies to head home..."

"Never, we'd never..."

At that point, a dagger appeared in the old man's hands.  He raised it high, and slammed it down, point first, into the table.  "Then if you wish to know where my forces are, look to New Tash Kulun.  My scouts have reported there is 300k worth of silver in it, which is one third of the bounty you placed on me..." 

Bryggan stood, and pulled out his blade.  "Bounty?  I'll collect it myself!"

At that moment, vodka 'cocktails' flew threw the windows, and the open doorway.  They burst into flame as the glass shattered upon their landing.  A chant of 'Bootleggers' erupted from outside, and inside the tavern.  Bryggan turned to face the oncoming threat, and seeing it was merely a distraction, spun about a second time.  However, the figure was gone. 

"Blue, where did he go?"

Blue sat there, staring into the mug.  He took another good swig, before raising his eyes to Bryggan.  "Who?"

"Moonshine.  Where did he go, he was right here...."

"I didn't notice.  Damn, this is good stuff.  I may have to put in an order for Calamari's ale for my personal cache.  Regardless, at least you got a free drink out of it all."

As Bryggan sheathed his sword with one hand, he grabbed the mug and downed it.  Quickly, he realized his mistake, and spit it all over the table.  "That bastard!  This isn't ale!  This is aled down water... OH, how I will get him..."
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 07, 2015, 03:49:01 am
And then a meteor struck the world and everybody died.

Strategus 5. The end.   :lol:
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: poonerplox2 on June 07, 2015, 03:53:46 am
Woah hold on a minute, why would you order me such a lowly drink as a Warden's Wrath. Everyone knows that I only drink aged items such as the classic, the Squid's Demise.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 07, 2015, 04:28:50 am

At the moment, an out of breath Tristan burst into the room.  'There you are Bryggan!  I have him!  I have it on great authority that he's out by Suno.  It's a long trek, but I can be there in a few weeks.  We can get him!" He raised his fist defiantly as he strode over to their corner.

"Tristan..."

"I know I can do it.  I can ram my sword deep into his stomach, and watch the light fade from his eyes... it will be glorious..."

"Tristan..."

"With him out of the way, I think opposition will falter even further!  We will take all of Calradia!" 

"Tristan!"  Bryggan slammed his fist on the table.  "You have no clue what you are talking about.  Suno is far out of the way, and it would be very unlike Moonshine..."

"Bryggan, I received this!"  He reached into his cloak and pulled out a parchment.  "It's from Moonshine himself!  He has challenged me to battle!"

"Tristan, I've received reports from Camulos that Moonshine was at New Shulus.  I heard from Albus that he's in the Steppes.  There were reports that he purchased a large order of ales from Sargoth, and Sharpe's special blend out of Veluca.  I have even heard he died."  Bryggan sighed.  "You need to understand, not every enemy charges up the middle.  Moonshine is a flank fighter.  He attacks from the shadows, and causes misdirection among the army he faces.  He lets you see what he wants you to see."

"But...Bryggan, he signed this by his own hand.  He challenged me out in the fields of Suno..."  A frown crossed the great Lord's face.  He brow furrowed in thought.  "Surely he'd keep his word and face me..."

"Do what you wish.  But if he said Suno, he'd be more likely to attack Nova Suno, and you'd be the fool to chase him out to the other..."

"Regardless, I do not need permission.  I will find him, and bring you his head."  Tristan folded up the parchment, and put it back in his cloak.  "Then we will see who the greater fool is."  He turned and left.



As Tristan left the Nova Curaw in a heat, he rode out to where his army was camped. "Gather the camp up men, we leave within the hour." I shouted while riding for my tent. Once inside, I strode over the table and unfurled my map of NA.
"I fucking knew it, theres no such thing as Nova Suno. I"ll need to get more horses for my ride to EU. But where to get them..." I mumbled to myself, before hearing a cough from behind me. Furnavi, my loyal second in command was standing there.
"Talking to yourself and not seeing the obvious as usual I see. However your'e stubborn, so I'm not going to even try to dissuade you. If we need horses, your bannnerman General Swagathor was recently gifted New Kelredan Castle. Rumor has it after the bezerk army broke on its walls they left thousands of horses. Let us go there to acquire what we need." he said, cutting straight to the point.
"Swagathor? He has always been true. Very well, send a messenger ahead of us to tell him of our arrival." I replied, before rolling up my map and preparing for the ride. Furnavi bowed and exited the tent to carry out my orders. Soon after we were out on the road again heading towards New Kelredan. Half a day's ride to the south we were there, and Swagathor met us on the gates.
"Whats up bundle of sticks?" he greeted me. Reminding myself of his crude manner I just let it slide.
"Greetings Swagathor. I have come to request some horses from you to aid me in my hunt of Moonshine." I said as we walked back to his keep.
"Hmm, I could do that. But I like my horses. However, Arms has been camping near my castle and I dont like that homo. So if you kill him I'll give you a few thousand palfreys." I gave it a few moments thoughts before accepting. Killing arms was probably in my best interest anyways. With that I rode out to attack his army...
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Sharpe on June 07, 2015, 01:32:13 pm

As Tristan left the Nova Curaw in a heat, he rode out to where his army was camped. "Gather the camp up men, we leave within the hour." I shouted while riding for my tent. Once inside, I strode over the table and unfurled my map of NA.
"I fucking knew it, theres no such thing as Nova Suno. I"ll need to get more horses for my ride to EU. But where to get them..." I mumbled to myself, before hearing a cough from behind me. Furnavi, my loyal second in command was standing there.
"Talking to yourself and not seeing the obvious as usual I see. However your'e stubborn, so I'm not going to even try to dissuade you. If we need horses, your bannnerman General Swagathor was recently gifted New Kelredan Castle. Rumor has it after the bezerk army broke on its walls they left thousands of horses. Let us go there to acquire what we need." he said, cutting straight to the point.
"Swagathor? He has always been true. Very well, send a messenger ahead of us to tell him of our arrival." I replied, before rolling up my map and preparing for the ride. Furnavi bowed and exited the tent to carry out my orders. Soon after we were out on the road again heading towards New Kelredan. Half a day's ride to the south we were there, and Swagathor met us on the gates.
"Whats up bundle of sticks?" he greeted me. Reminding myself of his crude manner I just let it slide.
"Greetings Swagathor. I have come to request some horses from you to aid me in my hunt of Moonshine." I said as we walked back to his keep.
"Hmm, I could do that. But I like my horses. However, Arms has been camping near my castle and I dont like that homo. So if you kill him I'll give you a few thousand palfreys." I gave it a few moments thoughts before accepting. Killing arms was probably in my best interest anyways. With that I rode out to attack his army...


Good man, you understand that quality RP's are to be written in italics.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 07, 2015, 11:57:07 pm
Modified the RP piece to reflect Blue's preferred ale...
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 08, 2015, 04:52:56 am
Moonshine arrived back at New Tash Kalun in time to the chadzian defenders huddled up in the square.  Many of their siege shields were in tatters.  Their dead strewn all about the battlefield.  They still held their weapons high, as they chanted, "For Bryggan and the Once Upon a Time Virgin!"   Then they braced themselves for the worst.  The Bootlegger army took no mercy.  To the last man, every chadzian was cut down, and their entrails were left for the crows.

"Well then, now onto the real business.  Round up the townsfolk!"  Moonshine shouted.

"Will you butcher us too?  Put our wives in the brothels, and sell our children off to the slaver's market?"  A voice cried.

"No.  These lands have known far too many battles.  Too many lives from your town have been lost needlessly.  In fact, you've lost far too many since you were under Squidian control."  Moonshine smiled upon the people, and he waved some men forward from the rear of the line.  "Take these supplies.  Blankets, and food."

One of the men stepped forward.  He was dressed in the finest of robes, with gold around his neck.  "You are a great man."

Moonshine smiled down upon the man.  "I have not declared my terms.  This village has known crime for a long time, and I'd like that to continue.  There are two taverns, and a brothel."

The man paused.  "We do... the chadzians have their vices."

"That they do my friend."  Nimble of foot, Moonshine dropped to the ground.  "That they do.  I have no quarrel with your people.  My quarrel is with the chadzians, and their troops...  My first term.  Your public brothels will be filled with any woman in the village that carries a disease.  Any of the cleaner, younger maids... are to be kept in private.  They may service the armies that pass through, but should any chadzian step foot in this village, they are to only be served by those in the public brothel.  I expect the chadzians may be through here soon.  If you could make that happen, I'd be most grateful."

The man tilted his head, with a confused puppy dog look upon his face.  He furrowed his brows, trying hard to understand.  "That is a most odd request."

"Aye, it is.  You see, a disease that kills the chadzian troops, is a friend to me.  The less they have to fight me, the safer my own troops will be.  Plus, your pox ridden whores need work.  This will ensure they have coin to survive.  And the archer who chafes, with an uncontrollable itch on his crotch, may not find his arms so steady."  Moonshine paused.  "Your name, good sir?"

The man smiled.  "Dirkde.  I think I see where you are going.  And your second request?"

"It involves the taverns.  Bring forth the tavernkeepers.  Have no fear, I mean no harm."

Two men stepped forward next to Dirkde.  "Yes sir?"

"It is really quite simple.  Your stock of spirits...  You have plenty of chadzian Ale, do you not?"  Both of the men nodded.  "Good.  One of you will  serve the chadzian troops. You will not order more of it.  No, you will water it down.  Four fifths of every mug, served to a soldier of theirs must be water."

One of the men looked aghast.  "But business will plummet, and... and..."

Moonshine raised his hand.  "Stop.  The other will remove the signs, and go underground.  There, you will serve the patrons of this village, and anyone wearing a standard other than chadzian that passes through.  Squid's Demise, Warden's Wrath, and the Vineyards of Veluca will be your staple.  I will ensure an ample supply.  You'll split the profits.  As for the chadzian tavern... improve your menu.  They'll still spend the coin, and they'll still manage to get drunk.  Trust me."

"But they may fight more, and become unruly..."

At that moment, Dirkde chimed in.  "No, i think not.  They won't linger.  They'll spend their money, get their drink, become disease ridden, and then leave the village.  I think that's this Lord's goal..."

Moonshine smiled at him.  "That's why I leave you in charge Dirkde.  Ensure my terms are met, and the town is yours.  It's really good business for everyone."

And with that, Moonshine and his army melted into the forest.... 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: njames89 on June 08, 2015, 10:47:06 pm
Vaguely amused James pissed from the ramparts in the general direction of the bootleggers of tash kulun. Turning to Prince Behemoth James said something along the lines of "shitpuppets everywhere, fucking shitpuppets".

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Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Talanarsis on June 09, 2015, 06:12:42 am
Vaguely amused James pissed from the ramparts in the general direction of the bootleggers of tash kulun. Turning to Prince Behemoth James said something along the lines of "shitpuppets everywhere, fucking shitpuppets".

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Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 09, 2015, 03:31:58 pm

"Whats up bundle of sticks?"


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Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 10, 2015, 05:52:44 am
Shortly after the battle for New Tash Kalun, Moonshine returned to the map.  He knew that the chadzian armies might be moving towards the village.  Typically, they hated losing anything.  He had no plans of staying close.  He believed in maneuverability.  And thus, he had to figure out what to do with the ownership.

"There was a lad who wished to rally the lands against the chadzians.  I could offer it to him."  He thought, and he quickly got to his quill.  "It's a good offer.  A fair offer."

But alas, it wasn't meant to be.  The young lad, Doom_Carrot, wrote "I wish I could revoke my alliance. However, I need the support of the HCE should stronger factions raid my land as much as the HCE needs people like me to tend their land and create buffers between them and their enemies."  He wished to become their vassal.  From 'Rise up, and fight!'  To 'Grab the plow and till!'

There was no real fervor.  No real passion.  Back to the maps he went.  He studied them long and hard.  He could move south, and hit the chadzians in the desert.  He could head west, back towards Dhirim and the Eastern Plateau... or perhaps North.  Instead, he chose to head west.  He moved his piece, a miniature beer mug, into the forests of New Dashbiga, and there, he waited. 

Imagine his surprise when he realized that the lands the new vassal would tend, happened to be his next target.  With King James still in the village, Moonshine signaled his men to move forward... 

Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: njames89 on June 10, 2015, 05:59:32 pm
Easy now Propoagandalf
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Doom Carrot was given a fief personally by a member of the HCE, because he seemed very interested in strat. None of us even knew about the transfer until quite late.

Also, hate to piss on your parade but I'm nowhere near you, and there are a few thousand of our men with pointy sticks standing in between you and I.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: mcdeath on June 10, 2015, 06:29:37 pm
EDIT: mcdeath how could you downvote patrick.... poor starfish  :cry:

Did you miss the part where I declared war on vegetables?
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 10, 2015, 07:49:31 pm
Easy now Propoagandalf
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Doom Carrot was given a fief personally by a member of the HCE, because he seemed very interested in strat. None of us even knew about the transfer until quite late.

Also, hate to piss on your parade but I'm nowhere near you, and there are a few thousand of our men with pointy sticks standing in between you and I.

Forgot who I'm talking to.  My bad.  I need to dumb things down.

One:  It was a roleplay piece.  I'm sure everyone other than you figured that out...
Two:  Roleplay pieces don't always jive with how things actually happen.  Example, I doubt Bryggan was in Curaw.  I doubt Tristan was in Curaw.  I doubt Tristan minded being involved, and i highly doubt he's actually heading to Suno like HIS piece stated.
Three:  You were the only defender to show.  If you hadn't shown up for that battle, then the transfer wouldn't have occurred.  I was giving you a hat tip, and figured I'd involve you solely for that reason. 
Four:  Even if you WERE in the fief, it's not like I could capture you.  Captures don't happen in this game... it'd be cool if they did, but they don't. 

Caught up now?  Ok good. 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: StonedSteel on June 10, 2015, 08:26:54 pm
ROFLFMAO

lol

propagandalf...

LOL


thats right up there with Liam Nerdson.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 10, 2015, 08:53:40 pm
Forgot who I'm talking to.  My bad.  I need to dumb things down.

One:  It was a roleplay piece.  I'm sure everyone other than you figured that out...
Two:  Roleplay pieces don't always jive with how things actually happen.  Example, I doubt Bryggan was in Curaw.  I doubt Tristan was in Curaw.  I doubt Tristan minded being involved, and i highly doubt he's actually heading to Suno like HIS piece stated.
Three:  You were the only defender to show.  If you hadn't shown up for that battle, then the transfer wouldn't have occurred.  I was giving you a hat tip, and figured I'd involve you solely for that reason. 
Four:  Even if you WERE in the fief, it's not like I could capture you.  Captures don't happen in this game... it'd be cool if they did, but they don't.

Caught up now?  Ok good.

Jokes on you I am in curaw. And I was going to suno until some other things happened and I was needed elsewhere. And I always enjoy being included in rp
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 11, 2015, 04:38:31 am
The tavern was empty, save for one table where 3 men were quietly enjoying a beer together.  They were not talking, just enjoying the peace and solitude of the inn, staring into the fire which was the tavern's only source of light.  In their false sense of security they did not see the robed individual quietly glide out of the shadows.

"Tristan!" the stranger cried, slapping the king on the back, "I..."  but he had no time to finish what he was saying, for Tristan's instinctive reactions snapped him out of his reverie, and he had leaned forward, kicking his own chair backwards hard into the stranger's shins and had fell forward into a roll during which he had drawn his dagger and ended up in a crouch, dagger pointed at the newcomer.  Not that it mattered, for his two companions had drawn their swords in less than a heart beat, and had the stranger covered.

"Damn you guys," the stranger said, "James, Blue- put your bloody swords away.  It's me, Bryggan!"

The three burst out laughing. "Hah," Tristan said, "the man who took on Black Company and Acre with just one comrade still lives in fear of his wife."

"Shaddup", Bryggan grumbled, "she's a fine woman.  Bloodthirsty and treacherous, just like I like em.  It's just the anti drinking stance I don't like... and most of my enemies never had access to my bedroom before."

"Damn," James laughed, "Rather than fighting you, I should have just got Witchcraft to marry you.  But still," he said, raising a finger, "I'm not complaining.  Things have gone well with you as a leader."

"True," Blue added, "With you as Emperor, or, back in the day, as High King, things went well.  I guess it's because..."  Blue stopped, a blank look on his face.

"Hmmm," Tristan said, scratching his head.

"Whatever Bryggan does or does not do is beside the point," James snapped, then turned to Bryggan.  "Have a beer, old friend, "he said, "we have a jug of Karindi Kickass Ale here, and by chadz, they really improved it."

Bryggan sat down and poured himself some ale.  "Well," he said, taking a large sip, "things seem to be going well.  King James, you are doing a great job of controlling trade.  Crime is down and our members are getting wealthy.  I cannot thank you enough for the job you're doing of running our fiefs."

"Yes, well I should thank Wix for his input," James said, "he devised a map, setting trade routes for two types of traders- the short traders, who keep S&D down in short trades, and the long distance haulers who make the profits.  Here, I'll show you his map:
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"Brilliant!" Bryggan said, "though I hope this does not fall in the hands of our enemies- it is far too important.

"Which brings me to my next point," he continued and turned to Tristan, "My good 'Sword of the South.  First of all, congratulations on yet another victory.  But what are you going to do with these villages in the steppes?  They are outside our realm of influence and, quite frankly, I have no interest in expending troops to protect them."

"I've been trying to sell them for awhile,"  Tristan said, "a few nibbles, but no real offers.  So I decided to give them to this new faction, some immigrant.  Goes by the name of Doom Carrot, of the Pelagor Empire."

"Pelagor Empire?" James mused, "he must be far from home."

"Doom Carrot..." Bryggan said, "I know that name... Doom Carrot, Doom Carrot...  Oh by Armagon... um, sorry James, by chadz!  That is the new fellow who was preaching against the rise of our empire!  Yelling in the forums and all that."

"Oh yeah, I know," Tristan answered, "but I couldn't just give it to a friend or ally of us.  Dutchy would attack immediately; and if not him, any of the other factions would strike, knowing we have no real military presence there.  Just to piss us off."

"Like we attacked those villages just to piss Dutchy off," laughed Bryggan.

"Well, despite his animosity to our empire, I thought if we gave him lands, he might start his own faction- one that would be hopefully neutral in our wars.  Perhaps start his own adventures, rather than tagging onto the ones we are on."

Blue, who had kept himself busy staring and occasionally scribbling in his ledgers, finally joined the conversation.  "It looks like Doom Carrot has already started his own adventures," he said, "Moonshine got it into his head to attack him."

"Moonshine!" the other three exclaimed.

"Now why the hell would Moonshine attack an avowed enemy of ours," Bryggan asked, "I thought his whole plan was to try hurt the empire?"

"Well, he has been sitting in his castle doing nothing for so long, he must have gone insane," James suggested.

"Oh, that's true beyond the shadow of a doubt," Tristan said, " going on a 'rampage' with a couple hundred men.  I can't believe I almost marched to Suno... I was expecting an actual army... a fight... a glorious battle."

"You overestimate our enemies' honour as much as you overestimated their strength," James sighed, "I've said it before, and I'll say it again- we are surrounded by shitlords."

"I get the idea that Moonshine considers himself some sort of rogue guerrilla fighter," Bryggan said, "his little show in Curaw proved that.  Like his little gnat bites would hurt the empire. I thought we'd let him buzz around til someone ran into him.  But I can't understand why he would attack our enemy?"

"I think Moonshine is a little less of an idealist and a little more of a brigand," Blue suggested, "Dashbigha has 300,000 silver in it.  Moonshine never traded, and the taxes from his fief would not build a suitable army.  He needs money, and I guess silver is more important to him than fraternity."

"Oh, that scoundrel," Bryggan murmered, pouring himself another tankard, "So what do we do?  Do we help this enemy of ours to prevent another enemy getting the silver?  With Doom Carrot in charge of Dashbigha, I'm sure he will make some pact with Dutchy."

"You really ought to leave the south more," Blue said, "weren't you gentlemen just in Curaw?  Well, if you had left the taverns once in awhile, you would have heard Dutchy threaten Doom Carrot.  Pretty much said that anyone who was not a direct vassal of his will be crushed and their lands taken back."

James guffawed in a rather unkingly manner, but the situation demanded it.  "Now that is rich," he said, "here the world is saying we are the evil empire, yet when we give away lands to a newcomer, they pounce on it like crows on carrion!"

"Well, I gave away these lands in good faith," Tristan said, "I feel it would besmirch my honour to not help Doom Carrot hold it at least for a little while."

"Very well," Bryggan said, "we go help our enemy defend against our enemy.  And I think we should take efforts to protect this particular enemy's independence.  Nothing has been signed concerning peace with Dutchy... the war with him just kinda petered out."

The others were all about to comment, but Blue raised a hand.  "The senate, gents," he said, "the senate."
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: mcdeath on June 11, 2015, 04:40:32 am
Please put the rp in italics. PLEASE!!!



Edit: Also a TL;DR would help out as well.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: sJimmy on June 11, 2015, 05:26:32 am
Bryggan grumbled, "she's a fine woman.  Bloodthirsty and treacherous, just like I like em. 

Who knew, a man whom is "holy" enjoys Bloodthirsty and Treachery, and its his wife!... Pure Gold RP +1
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 11, 2015, 10:11:04 am
Please put the rp in italics. PLEASE!!!
the rp
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: mcdeath on June 11, 2015, 10:23:09 am
the rp

And McDeath said "Fuck you you stupid ass nigga."

Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 11, 2015, 10:37:33 am
Sometimes I call my white friends 'crackers'.  But not in public around other white people.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 11, 2015, 11:43:46 am
This sort of thing annoys me.  The Berserks attack us and we fight back, and we get crap from the community for attacking 'noobs' such as Lumetta and VonCrow.  Then, when a real noob comes, he gets ganked 2 to 1.  A fine first battle.

So, help me out here.  A new guy comes, seems interested, posts against our Holy chadzian Empire and calls people to arms against us.  Then Moonshine offers him a village right on our borders, so he says 'no'.  Then Tristan offers him a village far away from us, one that we had no intention of holding, right in the midst of our other enemies and he says 'yes'.  Makes sense, yes?

Then an enemy of us attacks this other enemy of ours, and people get up at this shitty time to crush this poor guy.  His first battle has only one kill before we are spawn raped and flags capped.

Ganks happen despite what we have tried in the past to make battles fun, but I feel no one on the opposing side wanted a fun battle.  Nobody looked at the rosters and said, 'hey, I'll try even this out'.  Is it because I said I will try guarantee Pelagor's independence?  Were you trying to stop the expansion of the HCE even though I said I did not want Doom Carrot as a vassal?  You all say you want more factions, but yet you force people to join one side or the other.

And that makes Strat boring.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 11, 2015, 12:13:19 pm
This sort of thing annoys me.  The Berserks attack us and we fight back, and we get crap from the community for attacking 'noobs' such as Lumetta and VonCrow.  Then, when a real noob comes, he gets ganked 2 to 1.  A fine first battle.

So, help me out here.  A new guy comes, seems interested, posts against our Holy chadzian Empire and calls people to arms against us.  Then Moonshine offers him a village right on our borders, so he says 'no'.  Then Tristan offers him a village far away from us, one that we had no intention of holding, right in the midst of our other enemies and he says 'yes'.  Makes sense, yes?

Then an enemy of us attacks this other enemy of ours, and people get up at this shitty time to crush this poor guy.  His first battle has only one kill before we are spawn raped and flags capped.

Ganks happen despite what we have tried in the past to make battles fun, but I feel no one on the opposing side wanted a fun battle.  Nobody looked at the rosters and said, 'hey, I'll try even this out'.  Is it because I said I will try guarantee Pelagor's independence?  Were you trying to stop the expansion of the HCE even though I said I did not want Doom Carrot as a vassal?  You all say you want more factions, but yet you force people to join one side or the other.

And that makes Strat boring.

Well, it was more 3-1 or 4-1 when it all came down to who actually showed up.

Also, most of my weapons were desperately bought with 1.2k silver just hours after the battle was declared, (cough cough because moonshine didn't even give me FIFTEEN minutes to transfer some of my new 320k silver out of Dashbigha cough cough) so I could transfer them into the village before reinforcment time ran out. So we had pitchforks and shortswords lol  :rolleyes:

It wasn't a battle. No. It was a massacre.

Thus, the EOP declares war on the bootleggers. The war shall not be abated nor shall I agree to any terms of neutrality against those wearing the green banner until the village of Dashbigha is returned.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 11, 2015, 12:26:04 pm
This sort of thing annoys me.  The Berserks attack us and we fight back, and we get crap from the community for attacking 'noobs' such as Lumetta and VonCrow.  Then, when a real noob comes, he gets ganked 2 to 1.  A fine first battle.

So, help me out here.  A new guy comes, seems interested, posts against our Holy chadzian Empire and calls people to arms against us.  Then Moonshine offers him a village right on our borders, so he says 'no'.  Then Tristan offers him a village far away from us, one that we had no intention of holding, right in the midst of our other enemies and he says 'yes'.  Makes sense, yes?

Then an enemy of us attacks this other enemy of ours, and people get up at this shitty time to crush this poor guy.  His first battle has only one kill before we are spawn raped and flags capped.

Ganks happen despite what we have tried in the past to make battles fun, but I feel no one on the opposing side wanted a fun battle.  Nobody looked at the rosters and said, 'hey, I'll try even this out'.  Is it because I said I will try guarantee Pelagor's independence?  Were you trying to stop the expansion of the HCE even though I said I did not want Doom Carrot as a vassal?  You all say you want more factions, but yet you force people to join one side or the other.

And that makes Strat boring.

The problem with this fight wasn't the rosters.  It was the time.  There's no back and forth number crunching.  It becomes a matter of 'Get the most people signed up, and pray people are awake at the time of the battle.'  it's not like a prime time battle where you can look at the Steam list and say, 'Great fight about to happen, want in?' 

Now if you want to know the reasoning behind the attack.  First off, right now, I'm a one man clan.  Second, I offered Tash Kulun to Doom_Carrot.  This is a direct quote from his response:  "It is not that I am hostile towards any of the other factions on the map, however I am allied with the HCE, and will shortly be recieving a fief transfer. I appreciate your generous offer;(relations with another faction here), I would not like to risk offending the HCE by rejecting an alliance that I have already agreed upon."

At that point I wrote to him, and told him, in strat... the last thing you want to do as a new faction, or as new member, is to ally with a faction that is already at war.  The allies of one, are counted as enemies in war.  As an enemy of HCE, I gave him a two day respite.  I didn't know where he was on the map.  I didn't know what fief he was getting.  I had my own plans, and my eyes were on Dashbiga.  Here's his response:  "I wish I could revoke my alliance. However, I need the support of the HCE should stronger factions raid my land as much as the HCE needs people like me to tend their land and create buffers between them and their enemies.  I wish you luck, should we ever meet on the field of battle again."

At this point, he knows what he's up against.  He's holding to his alliance (like a good clan leader), and by all accounts, he's appearing as a vassal to HCE.  So is he REALLY safe in the steppes?  No.  He even acknowledges that the fief is still an HCE fief (hence the 'tend their land')

If he wants Tash Kulun, it can still be his.  As it appears, HCE has rejected his alliance.  Even then, that rejection didn't come until AFTER the attack had been scheduled.  What should I have done?  Walked away from my own army? 

This was solely a roleplaying decision to hit his fief.  The difference is, I'll give him a clean slate, providing HCE continues to renounce his alliance.  HCE never gives such mercy.  ;-)  I can't speak for others though... only the Bootlegger(s)

Now, one more point...  stop it with the roster posture. 

The battle for Tash Kulun, as an example.  At one point, I had 5 mercs signed.  HCE had 19.  How was that even?  'Oh, but you might have ninja'd...'  I'm sure that's what James would say.  I don't know how many battles I've 'commanded' this round, but of them all, only one had been ninja'd.  That was an undeclared war with the Starks, when they were on their afk run.  We ninja'd, we won.  I was trying to make a point about declaring wars and what not.  I thought the point was received.  ;-)

Anyway, we're in constant talks, you and I.  That battle ended up as a 17 vs 21 battle, and went down to the wire.  It was a great fight. 

But take a look at these:

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4394  21 HCE vs 11 Zerks
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4362 32 HCE vs 9 Squids

I could go deeper.  'Oh well, they might ninja...'  And you know what, valid point.  But at what point do you have to look at your own house?  When do you guys stop, and say, 'Wait, we should make these things a little more fair...'  Maybe if the rosters weren't lopsided, or the armies, or the advantages... then things may balance out... but in the mean time, your enemies are fighting you the same way you fight them. 


Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 11, 2015, 12:38:43 pm
The problem with this fight wasn't the rosters.  It was the time.  There's no back and forth number crunching.  It becomes a matter of 'Get the most people signed up, and pray people are awake at the time of the battle.'  it's not like a prime time battle where you can look at the Steam list and say, 'Great fight about to happen, want in?' 

Now if you want to know the reasoning behind the attack.  First off, right now, I'm a one man clan.  Second, I offered Tash Kulun to Doom_Carrot.  This is a direct quote from his response:  "It is not that I am hostile towards any of the other factions on the map, however I am allied with the HCE, and will shortly be recieving a fief transfer. I appreciate your generous offer;(relations with another faction here), I would not like to risk offending the HCE by rejecting an alliance that I have already agreed upon."

At that point I wrote to him, and told him, in strat... the last thing you want to do as a new faction, or as new member, is to ally with a faction that is already at war.  The allies of one, are counted as enemies in war.  As an enemy of HCE, I gave him a two day respite.  I didn't know where he was on the map.  I didn't know what fief he was getting.  I had my own plans, and my eyes were on Dashbiga.  Here's his response:  "I wish I could revoke my alliance. However, I need the support of the HCE should stronger factions raid my land as much as the HCE needs people like me to tend their land and create buffers between them and their enemies.  I wish you luck, should we ever meet on the field of battle again."

At this point, he knows what he's up against.  He's holding to his alliance (like a good clan leader), and by all accounts, he's appearing as a vassal to HCE.  So is he REALLY safe in the steppes?  No.  He even acknowledges that the fief is still an HCE fief (hence the 'tend their land')

If he wants Tash Kulun, it can still be his.  As it appears, HCE has rejected his alliance.  Even then, that rejection didn't come until AFTER the attack had been scheduled.  What should I have done?  Walked away from my own army? 

This was solely a roleplaying decision to hit his fief.  The difference is, I'll give him a clean slate, providing HCE continues to renounce his alliance.  HCE never gives such mercy.  ;-)  I can't speak for others though... only the Bootlegger(s)

Now, one more point...  stop it with the roster posture. 

The battle for Tash Kulun, as an example.  At one point, I had 5 mercs signed.  HCE had 19.  How was that even?  'Oh, but you might have ninja'd...'  I'm sure that's what James would say.  I don't know how many battles I've 'commanded' this round, but of them all, only one had been ninja'd.  That was an undeclared war with the Starks, when they were on their afk run.  We ninja'd, we won.  I was trying to make a point about declaring wars and what not.  I thought the point was received.  ;-)

Anyway, we're in constant talks, you and I.  That battle ended up as a 17 vs 21 battle, and went down to the wire.  It was a great fight. 

But take a look at these:

http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4394  21 HCE vs 11 Zerks
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=4362 32 HCE vs 9 Squids

I could go deeper.  'Oh well, they might ninja...'  And you know what, valid point.  But at what point do you have to look at your own house?  When do you guys stop, and say, 'Wait, we should make these things a little more fair...'  Maybe if the rosters weren't lopsided, or the armies, or the advantages... then things may balance out... but in the mean time, your enemies are fighting you the same way you fight them.

To put some things in context here, I recieved MANY invitations to join clans/factions, ally with them, or become a vassal. Many of the people who offered me to join them were an HCE enemy, and I DID NOT own the fief at that point. So, in order to keep the transfer, I had to reject some of HCE's enemy's offers (not pointing any fingers), which led to me being pushed around by a handful of factions to declare my friendship with someone which I obviously did with the HCE.

When you think of it this way: "Hmm, I told HCE I would accept their land, I am friendly with HCE, and now their potential enemies are asking me to ally with them... But I don't want to piss off the HCE by taking their fief AND becoming their enemy, because that's a dick move, so I will reject these proposals and risk getting raped and pray that the HCE supports the guy they just gave some land to."

It was really impossible to get started without a larger faction to help me get on my feet, but for that I needed to stay at least temperarily friendly and cooperative with them, which caused a few people to not like me, thus I tried to.... frighten them into not raping me to prolapse by saying that I am an ally of HCE as of now and they will help me defend against raiders. Which actually is turning out to be kind of true ironically lol   :lol:

The reason I said that to you, moonshine, was because I was warned by someone that you may possibly attack my village before we even started talking. Thus, when you asked me to revoke my friendship or "alliance" with the HCE, I had 2 choices:

1. Revoke it, take the transfer and (probably) not have any allies to help me keep the village if LL or you attacked, or:

2. Say that I would remain loyal to the HCE as of now, fighting their enemies and liking their allies, and hoping that they would back me up if I were to get attacked by LL or you.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 11, 2015, 12:40:39 pm

It was really impossible to get started without a larger faction to help me get on my feet, but for that I needed to stay at least temperarily friendly and cooperative with them, which caused a few people to not like me, thus I tried to.... frighten them into not raping me to prolapse by saying that I am an ally of HCE as of now and they will help me defend against raiders. Which actually is turning out to be kind of true ironically lol   :lol:

Ah, but that blade has two edges.  You found this out.  ;-) 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 11, 2015, 12:51:52 pm
Actually it was me bitching about you ninja rostering, James was the only one saying you didn't. Doom Carrot is in no way an HCE vassal. We decided to give him a fief since he was new, i fail to see how that is a crime. And yeah you ninja rostered House Stark after saying you were quitting and that we could have all your fiefs, then the minute we attacked you messaged NSIV saying "Lol nvm we're coming back lolol" and hired a roster a minute before the battle started then proceeded to do jack shit up until now.

And the only reason we had 32vs9 for the squid battle was because they attacked us during the tourney and everyone was pissed off at them and merced against them
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 11, 2015, 01:34:50 pm
Actually it was me bitching about you ninja rostering, James was the only one saying you didn't. Doom Carrot is in no way an HCE vassal. We decided to give him a fief since he was new, i fail to see how that is a crime. And yeah you ninja rostered House Stark after saying you were quitting and that we could have all your fiefs, then the minute we attacked you messaged NSIV saying "Lol nvm we're coming back lolol" and hired a roster a minute before the battle started then proceeded to do jack shit up until now.

And the only reason we had 32vs9 for the squid battle was because they attacked us during the tourney and everyone was pissed off at them and merced against them

I never made such a claim Tristan.  I said you could have Caraf Castle.  Not Assuadi.  Not Tilbaut.  Not Tadsamesh.  So when you attacked Assuadi, unprovoked, you got your asses handed to you.  By peasants.  Starks had 10 sign, Astralis had 15 sign.  Not horribly overpowering.  You ended up with 6 guys showing up for you, and we had 11.  You were well geared too I might add.  Did I mention there wasn't a sword amongst us?

The odds were in your favor, and it was your battle to lose.   And you did.

Oh, and would you like to know why I haven't done jack shit up until now?  Pretty simple.  I let my 1400 man army, with plate, die out in November.  Back when strat was supposed to end.  I decided, you know what, Strat is supposed to end, I'll focus on the holidays.  So did a lot of other people.  So when I came back around to strat, I had to rebuild.  When you're solo, running around, it can take time to make the trades happen, get some gear, and start doing things again. 

You on the other hand, didn't start doing ANYTHING until Strat was in easy mode.  You got to take a bunch of fiefs that no one defended.  You got to use a bunch of SnD that no one cared about.  You went on cruise control.  You Tristan, have done Jack Shit in the strat world.  You've been active for what?  5 months?  Please.  ;-)





Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: mcdeath on June 11, 2015, 05:44:19 pm
For the record that HCE battle vs the squids had a huge roster advantage because Calamari left the faction and couldn't sign anyone up. They made a last minute attempt to have Thumper higher people and at that point it was too late. Also only 16 of the 32 showed up and 6 of the squids 9 showed up.

On the zerks battle of the 21 vs 11 only 12 HCE guys showed up and 7 zerks showed up.

My point is that HCE has a lot of its members sign up and not make the battle. You can't base fights off of rosters but by who was there.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Voncrow on June 11, 2015, 07:21:28 pm
I think Moonshine pointed this out, but giving a fief you took from another faction in a still active war, doesn't mean it's no longer involved in that war. That is not how war works, if you give away land in dispute it doesn't mean it's no longer in dispute. Honestly giving this new player this specific fief was a dick move. It was asking to have him attacked.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 11, 2015, 09:10:10 pm
I never made such a claim Tristan.  I said you could have Caraf Castle.  Not Assuadi.  Not Tilbaut.  Not Tadsamesh.  So when you attacked Assuadi, unprovoked, you got your asses handed to you.  By peasants.  Starks had 10 sign, Astralis had 15 sign.  Not horribly overpowering.  You ended up with 6 guys showing up for you, and we had 11.  You were well geared too I might add.  Did I mention there wasn't a sword amongst us?

The odds were in your favor, and it was your battle to lose.   And you did.

Oh, and would you like to know why I haven't done jack shit up until now?  Pretty simple.  I let my 1400 man army, with plate, die out in November.  Back when strat was supposed to end.  I decided, you know what, Strat is supposed to end, I'll focus on the holidays.  So did a lot of other people.  So when I came back around to strat, I had to rebuild.  When you're solo, running around, it can take time to make the trades happen, get some gear, and start doing things again. 

You on the other hand, didn't start doing ANYTHING until Strat was in easy mode.  You got to take a bunch of fiefs that no one defended.  You got to use a bunch of SnD that no one cared about.  You went on cruise control.  You Tristan, have done Jack Shit in the strat world.  You've been active for what?  5 months?  Please.  ;-)

I haven't done jack shit but have over 200 battles in the 7 months i've been playing, whereas you've provided like what 4? I may have not been active before hand but i've done more in 7 months than you've ever done based on everything I know of past strats from mercing in every single one since Strat 1.

Also since November you could easily have another 1400 man shiny army. As a solo player you'd make roughly 720 troops a month, so you should have almost a 8,000 man army by now not a 200 man. And the reason I didn't start playing strat until it was "easy mode" was because thats when someone messaged me and asked my to join their faction. I would've started playing earlier if someone had asked me too, I just didn't want to play solo and was too lazy to look for and join a faction.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 11, 2015, 09:50:50 pm
I haven't done jack shit but have over 200 battles in the 7 months i've been playing, whereas you've provided like what 4? I may have not been active before hand but i've done more in 7 months than you've ever done based on everything I know of past strats from mercing in every single one since Strat 1.

Looks like I hit a nerve.  So you've personally provided 200 battles?  7 months... figure 30 days per month, that's 210 days, and in those 210 days you've PROVIDED 200 battles.  Oh, you didn't provide them?  Oh, you participated in them?  Got the participation trophy for them?  Not quite as magnificent, but ok.  Now let's remove the amount of battles that were afk fief transfers...  Or perhaps just fief transfers in general.  I know you've participated in a lot of those...

My how your number keeps dropping.  So um, what have you done again?  Not your faction... you.  And if you're going to count participation, well, trust me, I've had my fair share.  Just cause you don't see the name 'Moonshine' on the roster, doesn't mean I'm not there.  I had decided that if Astralis wasn't an active ally, or enemy, pseudonym was the best course of action.  That way I could merc for one side, then the other, and not really get hounded battle after battle.

Also since November you could easily have another 1400 man shiny army. As a solo player you'd make roughly 720 troops a month, so you should have almost a 8,000 man army by now not a 200 man. And the reason I didn't start playing strat until it was "easy mode" was because thats when someone messaged me and asked my to join their faction. I would've started playing earlier if someone had asked me too, I just didn't want to play solo and was too lazy to look for and join a faction.

You must have missed the part where I took a few months off.  So the troop count drops dramatically, and I go for periods where I may hit the point and click button on the map, but it doesn't mean I'll log into NA1.  I play other games.  I go on vacations.  And I have a life.  Plus, unless I was planning on getting involved in strat, I didn't really care if I clicked 'enter a crime ridden fief' or if I chose to park right outside it.  Amazing how many troops can be lost if you're in a fief for a few hours.  But oh well.  You are correct though... the army could be bigger.  I can afford it too, but at some point, an army is lost from flag cap rather than troop death.  I'm sure you'll feel that pain at some point.  Smaller armies are easier to recover from.  :-) 
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 11, 2015, 10:07:08 pm
Looks like I hit a nerve.  So you've personally provided 200 battles?  7 months... figure 30 days per month, that's 210 days, and in those 210 days you've PROVIDED 200 battles.  Oh, you didn't provide them?  Oh, you participated in them?  Got the participation trophy for them?  Not quite as magnificent, but ok.  Now let's remove the amount of battles that were afk fief transfers...  Or perhaps just fief transfers in general.  I know you've participated in a lot of those...

My how your number keeps dropping.  So um, what have you done again?  Not your faction... you.  And if you're going to count participation, well, trust me, I've had my fair share.  Just cause you don't see the name 'Moonshine' on the roster, doesn't mean I'm not there.  I had decided that if Astralis wasn't an active ally, or enemy, pseudonym was the best course of action.  That way I could merc for one side, then the other, and not really get hounded battle after battle.

You must have missed the part where I took a few months off.  So the troop count drops dramatically, and I go for periods where I may hit the point and click button on the map, but it doesn't mean I'll log into NA1.  I play other games.  I go on vacations.  And I have a life.  Plus, unless I was planning on getting involved in strat, I didn't really care if I clicked 'enter a crime ridden fief' or if I chose to park right outside it.  Amazing how many troops can be lost if you're in a fief for a few hours.  But oh well.  You are correct though... the army could be bigger.  I can afford it too, but at some point, an army is lost from flag cap rather than troop death.  I'm sure you'll feel that pain at some point.  Smaller armies are easier to recover from.  :-)

If I attack peoples fiefs and they dont hire people to defend, how is that in any way my fault lmao. I showed up geared and ready for a battle, they hired no one in defense and just practically gave up their fiefs. I don't see how that is me being bad at the game.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 11, 2015, 10:07:25 pm
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The problem here Bryggan is that while Doom Carrot had many offers on the table, to either join factions or simply receive free fiefs, he chose the one that put him in a sticky situation. I don't think anyone but him could know what was going through his head when he decided to do a 180 and ally with his supposed "enemies," but when he did he lost any support he could have easily had from moonshine/astralis, LL, berzerks, and any other "free agents" such as HoC (the reason he lost the assistance of free agents is not because we are necessarily at war with HCE, but more often than not they are not the ones needing roster assistance). Now that Doom Carrot accepts an allegiance with HCE, he also knowingly gets involved in their wars, and well, he was given a free fief that "belonged" to someone else, someone you were at war with. There was no way that LL or others would simply let him be because he didn't fly your exact colors, you were allies. There was also no way to know that he would be so unprepared for an attack. He has been on strat for a while, and yes, he's new, but since he did hop aboard the HCE train perhaps he was given gear, or maybe the fief had some laying around, no way to know for sure.

And for the record, here's my tale of this morning's fight: I spoke to Moonshine lastnight telling him there was a small chance I would be around for the battle, and if so I'd merc for him to fight against shitty nighttime settings. Well, come a quarter of 5, I booted up my computer and saw the rosters. I applied to Doom Carrot instead, figuring it wouldn't do much good but might prolong the battle by a few seconds, with 10 minutes to spare. Time passed, and since I was actually awake with my computer on and all, I didn't want to miss this fight. So with 2 minutes to go, I applied to both sides. Moonshine grabbed me a minute before the fight started. I can't say for sure if others were in a similar position, but being new, apparently DC didn't realize that last minute applications exist, and it could have cost him. However, while I did get a couple kills, I didn't really do my team much good as I sincerely hit teammates over the head more often than enemies... just luckily for me our side had thicker armor. Lesson learned, don't hire me at such ridiculous hours, maybe DC was on to something here...  :lol:
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 11, 2015, 10:09:26 pm
Nobody has read my topic, did they... The pact?.... Anybody?... no?... well... ok then...  :rolleyes:

This entire conversation is pointless now really.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 11, 2015, 10:17:58 pm
Btw, unless this strat is different from previous ones, only defenders without gear get free peasant equipment. This means that your attack is ill-fated and I'm fairly certain you will spawn naked with no weapons other than your fists.  :?
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 11, 2015, 10:23:28 pm
Btw, unless this strat is different from previous ones, only defenders without gear get free peasant equipment. This means that your attack is ill-fated and I'm fairly certain you will spawn naked with no weapons other than your fists.  :?

Oh well, I have nothing to lose lol. It will just be an xp battle I guess lol.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Balikar on June 11, 2015, 10:27:33 pm
Oh well, I have nothing to lose lol. It will just be an xp battle I guess lol.

Good experience is based on the gear of the armies.  ;-)
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 11, 2015, 10:29:58 pm
It was a free fief, he decided to ally with us after we offered him a free fief. Just saying
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 12, 2015, 12:22:16 am
The problem here Bryggan is that while Doom Carrot had many offers on the table, to either join factions or simply receive free fiefs, he chose the one that put him in a sticky situation. I don't think anyone but him could know what was going through his head when he decided to do a 180 and ally with his supposed "enemies," but when he did he lost any support he could have easily had from moonshine/astralis, LL, berzerks, and any other "free agents" such as HoC (the reason he lost the assistance of free agents is not because we are necessarily at war with HCE, but more often than not they are not the ones needing roster assistance). Now that Doom Carrot accepts an allegiance with HCE, he also knowingly gets involved in their wars, and well, he was given a free fief that "belonged" to someone else, someone you were at war with. There was no way that LL or others would simply let him be because he didn't fly your exact colors, you were allies. There was also no way to know that he would be so unprepared for an attack. He has been on strat for a while, and yes, he's new, but since he did hop aboard the HCE train perhaps he was given gear, or maybe the fief had some laying around, no way to know for sure.


Just want to make a slight correction here. Moonshine, while he could probably get Astralis to sign for him easily, he is not Me(AKA Astralis now it seems). Most Astralis is Merc not strat oriented now.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 12, 2015, 01:24:55 am
Yeah, I just meant in terms of merc support.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 12, 2015, 03:24:27 am
The problem here Bryggan is that while Doom Carrot had many offers on the table, to either join factions or simply receive free fiefs, he chose the one that put him in a sticky situation. I don't think anyone but him could know what was going through his head when he decided to do a 180 and ally with his supposed "enemies," but when he did he lost any support he could have easily had from moonshine/astralis, LL, berzerks, and any other "free agents" such as HoC (the reason he lost the assistance of free agents is not because we are necessarily at war with HCE, but more often than not they are not the ones needing roster assistance). Now that Doom Carrot accepts an allegiance with HCE, he also knowingly gets involved in their wars, and well, he was given a free fief that "belonged" to someone else, someone you were at war with. There was no way that LL or others would simply let him be because he didn't fly your exact colors, you were allies. There was also no way to know that he would be so unprepared for an attack. He has been on strat for a while, and yes, he's new, but since he did hop aboard the HCE train perhaps he was given gear, or maybe the fief had some laying around, no way to know for sure.

And for the record, here's my tale of this morning's fight: I spoke to Moonshine lastnight telling him there was a small chance I would be around for the battle, and if so I'd merc for him to fight against shitty nighttime settings. Well, come a quarter of 5, I booted up my computer and saw the rosters. I applied to Doom Carrot instead, figuring it wouldn't do much good but might prolong the battle by a few seconds, with 10 minutes to spare. Time passed, and since I was actually awake with my computer on and all, I didn't want to miss this fight. So with 2 minutes to go, I applied to both sides. Moonshine grabbed me a minute before the fight started. I can't say for sure if others were in a similar position, but being new, apparently DC didn't realize that last minute applications exist, and it could have cost him. However, while I did get a couple kills, I didn't really do my team much good as I sincerely hit teammates over the head more often than enemies... just luckily for me our side had thicker armor. Lesson learned, don't hire me at such ridiculous hours, maybe DC was on to something here...  :lol:

Actually, I checked at the last minute, and hired 4 more people, but 3 of them dissapeared when I hired them, and went to the other teams side. I don't really know how that happened but it did. And it was only 4 dudes anyways, wouldn't have made any difference  :|
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Jona on June 12, 2015, 04:39:30 am
Actually, I checked at the last minute, and hired 4 more people, but 3 of them dissapeared when I hired them, and went to the other teams side. I don't really know how that happened but it did. And it was only 4 dudes anyways, wouldn't have made any difference  :|

Four dudes would have made all the difference. The final roster was 18v9, exactly 2:1. Had you snagged those 4 guys, it would have brought the rosters to 14v13, and with the defensive advantage you could have held out a lot longer than you did, if not manage to outright outlast the attackers completely due to being able to pick up their dropped weapons. The reason why some guys you hired ended up on the other side is that you didn't refresh the webpage recently enough. If you are lingering on the recruitment page for a while, then potential mercs for hire might have already been hired by the other side if they applied to both. Or maybe you didn't linger on the page at all, and you just happened to get ninja'd.
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 12, 2015, 03:56:14 pm
Four dudes would have made all the difference. The final roster was 18v9, exactly 2:1. Had you snagged those 4 guys, it would have brought the rosters to 14v13, and with the defensive advantage you could have held out a lot longer than you did, if not manage to outright outlast the attackers completely due to being able to pick up their dropped weapons. The reason why some guys you hired ended up on the other side is that you didn't refresh the webpage recently enough. If you are lingering on the recruitment page for a while, then potential mercs for hire might have already been hired by the other side if they applied to both. Or maybe you didn't linger on the page at all, and you just happened to get ninja'd.
Yeah, I was checking the page every five or so minutes for the last hour up to the fight, but whatever  :|
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Bryggan on June 13, 2015, 01:42:14 am
The problem with this fight wasn't the rosters.  It was the time.  There's no back and forth number crunching.  It becomes a matter of 'Get the most people signed up, and pray people are awake at the time of the battle.'  it's not like a prime time battle where you can look at the Steam list and say, 'Great fight about to happen, want in?' 

Now if you want to know the reasoning blah blah... 

For this I forgive the rosters.  Obviously anyone who is going to stay up til that time is doing so with a purpose; not just to see if any side happens to need a merc for a village battle (except Jona obviously).

Also I never accused Moonshine for his roster- he's obviously not going to donate his well armed army just to make a new guy happy.  The guy usually is a gentleman, but him and I have agreed to disagree on whether he was being a dick for attacking Doom Carrot within 15 minutes of him getting it.  I think he was, and he thinks he wasn't.

But I also didn't know about the pms he got.  While I was trying to ensure DC's neutrality, he was telling Moonshine he was allied with us- trying to scare him.  Bad move.

But, while I don't know what Tristan said, giving the 'new guy' a fief in enemy territory made sense.  He already claimed to be an enemy of ours in the forums, so obviously we wouldn't want him in our lands.  But Dutchy didn't do anything about Dashbigha for four weeks.  It seemed like he didn't care.  So, to let a guy was going to roster against us anyways have a village we couldn't use seemed to make sense.

But I guess the important thing is that Doom Carrot learned that shitty nighttime settings piss people off.  So, for all you noobs- night time settings is just a name- set your nightime settings for during the day if at all.

Oh, and I see this little fiasco has woken Dutchy up.  Wish he told me he was going to blitz us, otherwise I would have changed my plans for this evening... or maybe he did.  I slept 2 hours before going to work the day before yesterday, so yesterday I came home and slept and slept and slept.  Stupid late night battles!
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 13, 2015, 03:00:52 am
But I also didn't know about the pms he got. 

Yeah people gave me alot of their post menstrual syndrom-I could tell.  :|
Title: Re: Bootlegging Moonshine
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 13, 2015, 03:01:43 am
Double post.  :o