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☐ rekt
☐ not rekt
☑ Tyrannosaurus rekt
I'm absolutely stunned that this is the response by the only administrator who could punish this sort of cheating. Regardless of your opinions of Kesh and his shit-posting, KbW broke the rules by item-bombing Kesh's fief, and so far the only person to receive punishment was Kesh on the forums. Between this and the developer's general lack of care for editing textures, aim assist, wallhacks, etc., I am astonished that such a team of talented developers could treat their community so poorly.
Ever heard of a fable called "The boy who cried wolf"? This is it.
Ever heard of a fable called "The boy who cried wolf"? This is it.
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P.S. Grey Order and DRZ - you guys finally even beat the devs in a war of attrition over Strategus. Let the multi-accounting sperg commence!
Ever heard of a fable called "The boy who cried wolf"? This is it.
I'm not in charge of restoring characters, returning heirlooms or providing Strategus support.
From what I've gathered following all of the threads kesh has made in the past week or so, there's been a few, they are just sick of going on these wild goose chases and wasting their own time looking up all the shit he's accused everyone of doing. First it was Aldog multiaccounting, then it was something else, now this (maybe just aldog and this, not sure, don't give two shits either way).
Whenever he posts though I always think:
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what is the point in playing?
Or on the other hand, dont make rules if you wont enforce them?
There are a team of admins who have the ability to handle the ingame ban requests and server bans, they are willing to impartially view requests and take action. Unfortunately these same people do not have the access to investigate rulebreaking in Strat outside of server stuff like skyladders.
You can appreciate then, i'm sure, how it may frustrate some people when it looks like one hand is saying 'obey the rules or be banned' and the other is saying 'pfffff, who cares'. You must appreciate that rules exist to make the game fair and fun for everyone, there are plenty of admin-set unban essays that confirm this point and that it's something the mod values.
At the moment we have the situation that any offences committed in-server can be punished and reported, and you can expect a fairly uniform response on those. At the moment any offences committed on the map, can be freely made cos i dont know who's able or willing to handle them. And clearly without a clear or consistent area to report these, a public appeal is ignored or handled with an excellent level of maturity if it's inflamatory enough to not ignore. That's not consistent or fair
Fuck you Status Quo, if that's the case and you just want everyone to do whatever the fuck they want, then remove the 'ban/unban' section for in-server rule-breaking too. Let's just do whatever we want, let the devs and admins get on with their busy lives. Ooooooor, appoint a team who *can* and is willing to enforce rules on the ingame map, not just in the servers.
You could be right. However that does not excuse the fact that the item bomb happened and should be looked into. When the devs can decide how to police the game by their personal opinions of one group over the other what is the point in playing?
If I had posted that ban stuff instead of Kesh would it have been looked into already? I have never requested a ban before? Is this seriously how we want things to work?
in the time it took both of them to respond to the post they could have looked at the logs and handled things the correct way.
The answer is
Yes
If it would be that easy don't you think we would have done it already?
The thing is: Kesh asks/calls out cmp even though he has in his SIGNATURE that he has nothing to do with strategus. What's the point of that? Apart from trolling? cmp wouldn't even know where to start, I'm not even sure he has access to all the stuff needed. He's a good scapegoat though, I give you that.
All the M:BG devs are busy right now. Like sleep-work-don't-do-anything-else kind of busy. I could do it, but it would probably take me a full day. I don't have a full day right now. Frankly, I dont even have 15 minutes right now. We will look into it when we have the time. Or appoint people for that, and give them the appropiate tools.
Also, it wasn't anyone of the devs who warned/muted him.
Stuff will be done in due time. When we have time. There is no point in demanding stuff when there is simply no time to do it. So yes, we need a strategus team.
Kesh, BaleOhay, and Jack1; Strat team '15
My initial response was... Awesome. At least it's acknowledged. The more I thought about it however, the less it felt 'good.' In fact, it's a piss poor answer. Here's why:
Okay fine you twisted my arm, I'll join the strategus admin/oversight team.
I agree with a lot that you said, it just was very very bad timing overall. I didn't know of it. cmp doesn't have anything to do with strat. everyone was super busy. etc etc.
Daruvian, you did little this strat but complain. I'd feel more comfortable with people that don't throw in the towel when faced with small obstacles.
I dare say that makes him a good fit. He's a lot more impartial than some of the people you'd like... and if it's a big enough obstacle to make him want to quit, then it's probably a big enough one to make others want to quit. And thus, worthy of notice by a strat team.
oh good lord could you imagine a strat world moderated by daruvian? Seriously? haha Have you seen his posts?
I dare say that makes him a good fit. He's a lot more impartial than some of the people you'd like... and if it's a big enough obstacle to make him want to quit, then it's probably a big enough one to make others want to quit. And thus, worthy of notice by a strat team.
Can someone TL;DR this for me I don't want to wade through the titty high radioactive feces that is this thread.
Side note: why would anyone mess with CMP? have you learnt nothing from me? CMP is a cunt, but he is Cunt Overlord and there is no point angering him, right or wrong, this isn't a democracy, there is no duty of care if we are honest, now is there? If there was some warband issue and you wanted responsibility and accountability from talewords or paradox or something is one thing, but crpg is free...
Kesh wants Mcdeath banned. Made post insulting CMP, draws out the real strat dev and info is given. Smooth wants admin back.
oh good lord could you imagine a strat world moderated by daruvian? Seriously? haha Have you seen his posts?
10/10 anders would def give run k thx
Wow, Smooth, you're actually a decent guy behind all that misanthropic trolling.
It was stupid but still funny to be like a cRPG Social Worker with repeat offending trolls coming into my Steam chat office to explain themselves, my admin uniform barely concealing the BORN 2 TROLL tattoos up and down my arms and understanding them pretty well.
Go Smoothrich, admin of any sort 2014-2388, long may he live.
Lel imagine typing all that shit and expecting people to read it.
The answer is
Yes
If it would be that easy don't you think we would have done it already?
The thing is: Kesh asks/calls out cmp even though he has in his SIGNATURE that he has nothing to do with strategus. What's the point of that? Apart from trolling? cmp wouldn't even know where to start, I'm not even sure he has access to all the stuff needed. He's a good scapegoat though, I give you that.
All the M:BG devs are busy right now. Like sleep-work-don't-do-anything-else kind of busy. I could do it, but it would probably take me a full day. I don't have a full day right now. Frankly, I dont even have 15 minutes right now. We will look into it when we have the time. Or appoint people for that, and give them the appropiate tools.
Also, it wasn't anyone of the devs who warned/muted him.
Stuff will be done in due time. When we have time. There is no point in demanding stuff when there is simply no time to do it. So yes, we need a strategus team.
You better fucking spin some magic time on the 13th Dec though :mrgreen:
I just want to point out that Kesh in TS is very calm and cool. He doesn't out burst or cry while in TS. He is a very good leader and knowledgeable. Pretty much what I'm saying is, don't paint a complete picture of him just by his forum post. Idk why he seems like such a asshole on his post, but really is not.
I just want to point out that Kesh in TS is very calm and cool. He doesn't out burst or cry while in TS. He is a very good leader and knowledgeable. Pretty much what I'm saying is, don't paint a complete picture of him just by his forum post. Idk why he seems like such a asshole on his post, but really is not.
Unmute Kesh 2014
Smooth NA Strat Admin 2014
Lord Dark Vader empire takeover 2015
Kesh is slimey, controlling, a whiner, very passive aggressive, has a very annoying accen
"Do your job"
Why, do you pay them?
The moment someone starts demanding the developers that gave you a game for free to do their "job", as in heeding the demands of every inconsiderate fuckwit, is the moment you lose all sympathy and good will.
Learn some fucking humility, you cheap fuck, or make your own mod and do your "job" there.
Just turn strat off and use the freed up time to work on M:BG...
As a positive side effect, people like Kesh might just leave with it.
Wow nice "Event Manager" here making us pumped up for some cRPG/Strat events lol
Wow, so cuz I am Event Manager I am not allowed to state my personal opinion that Strat is utter crap and a waste of time?
Wow, so cuz I am Event Manager I am not allowed to state my personal opinion that Strat is utter crap and a waste of time?
want to know one of the best things about strat? You can opt not to play it. Look at all the time I saved you in both playing and complaining! I need to reach out and let daruvian know that this is possible as well.
Want to know one of the best things about this forum?
I can choose to have an opinion about something and/or somebody and freely state it.
Erm.. I think maybe you are easily led. Kesh is slimey, controlling, a whiner, very passive aggressive, has a very annoying accent (That's most US citizens to people who speak English though, so I don't blame him for that). Many times when he came Eu for battles I had my finger over that ban button, but opted for muting him instead, since I'm not actually an arsehole.
You come off real self righteous. You Grace us all with your mercy. But seriously You seem like you make real quick assumptions of people if you think I am easily led. I wouldn't hold any water on you judgement of character based off your post. I mean how many times have you been on TS and spoke to him? Hand full of times maybe? Every Debate has two sides. Please tell me your not a admin.
Daruvian even people who never heard of crpg and strat know you did not play this round because it sucks. You state it in nearly every thread. I worry that you scream it randomly at people in the street.
You certainly can have and state your opinion Molly but telling someone to quit for part of a game you think should be cancelled just seems odd. How has kesh ever impacted your life?Whenever I read something that Kesh wrote, it's alienating, arrogant, demanding and way out of line. That is hardly contributing in a constructive way. I think he acts like an asshole and yes, I wouldn't mind to not ever read anything again coming from him. That is my opinion about his forum appearance and that is all I have to go by. And since this is a forum, it's all I need to know.
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I'll treat everyone the same during an event in my responsibility, even Kesh. Same for anything I use my admin rights on the server for. I am impartial in everything I do "officially". If you doubt that, please make a thread about it somewhere and ask the higher ups to investigate.
You come off real self righteous. You Grace us all with your mercy. But seriously You seem like you make real quick assumptions of people if you think I am easily led. I wouldn't hold any water on you judgement of character based off your post. I mean how many times have you been on TS and spoke to him? Hand full of times maybe? Every Debate has two sides. Please tell me your not a admin.
Huh? I don't hate him. I just don't think he should think he is god's gift, and if you have less experience of him than others, why would your opinion be so much more accurate?
AS to propaganda... I dont think you know what that word means. I don't have any aim, I dont stand to win or lose anything, and I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. Why would I spread misinformation about him in a negative light anyway? he is already muted and apparantly, unless earlier posters used the wrong wording, he is banned ingame. All I have written about that situation is that if he IS banned ingame for something that happened on forum, then that's wrong... reguardless of what I think of him, I don't think the rules are greyscale, and I don't think fairness is either.
My post was not directly releated to you, it was a broad generalization of the thread. Look up propaganda, that is exactly what is going on here. Biased misinformation opinions being spread on a public forum where anyone can read. If that is not propaganda, you might not know what it means.You should have looked up "information" instead of "propaganda".
That guy is right though. It's not that serious. Btw I have been on TS with kesh many times and observed or creep. Whatever you want to call it
Your hostility and disposition to Kesh, as a player, was more of what amazed me than your opinion about Strategus.
Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small; Though with patience stands He waiting, with exactness grinds He all.
to much work for 1 eu and 1 na honestly. would also give to much power to those individuals.Steep request I know... Unfortunately that's the only way I see it becoming functional in an effective way.
Likely 2-3 per map side honestly with 1 donkey crew (likely would be there to help but not day to day stuff)
keep it separate from the reg battle server admins because what is done on battle should not bleed over into strat stuff.
This thread is pretty much the reason why I won't play strat again. I always tried to get into it but I never could. I could get past the mechanics, and the fact that it's browser based and you literally have to be attentive to it at a moment's notice (this part is probably the worst, there's times when I can't look at a computer for days because I use one for work extensively). I can get past having to stay up to 2AM to get to a battle when I have to wake up at 6:30AM every morning to make my commute to work. I can get past having to do math to calculate how much silver I'll make, how fast I will move, upkeep and all that shit.I read that imagining the guy from your avatar speaking it, was really cool.
What I can't get past is how fucking retarded people get over this. It's literally mind boggling how seriously some people take it and the lengths they go to. The shitposting, abuse of mechanics, and general ass-hattery makes strat beyond off-putting. This community was much more chilled and relaxed before strat came along. Now it's just split into several camps of people that hate each other over pixel castles and villages.
This thread is pretty much the reason why I won't play strat again. I always tried to get into it but I never could. I could get past the mechanics, and the fact that it's browser based and you literally have to be attentive to it at a moment's notice (this part is probably the worst, there's times when I can't look at a computer for days because I use one for work extensively). I can get past having to stay up to 2AM to get to a battle when I have to wake up at 6:30AM every morning to make my commute to work. I can get past having to do math to calculate how much silver I'll make, how fast I will move, upkeep and all that shit.
What I can't get past is how fucking retarded people get over this. It's literally mind boggling how seriously some people take it and the lengths they go to. The shitposting, abuse of mechanics, and general ass-hattery makes strat beyond off-putting. This community was much more chilled and relaxed before strat came along. Now it's just split into several camps of people that hate each other over pixel castles and villages.
esoteric
Nice. Didn't read your post tbh nor anyone's here before I just shittalk, but nice, first time I've seen esoteric used in AGES.
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Niggas gettin tyrannosaurus rekt up in dis bitch.
Real talk doe. If you is a bitch ass nigga den you probably on the crpg dev team. If you is a crying wolf all damn day, den you is probs dat bitch ass nigga kesh. If you is a straight up bundle of sticks den you probs daruvian or sandy. If you is a piece of shit scum of the earth douchebag den you is probably McDeath aka McBan dat mofo masshole and give em dat sweet sweet Raw admin D and go to town on em.
The funny thing is the strat admins cheat, just like Tydeus did at the beginning of this round. http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/who-is-incharge-of-strategus5/msg994743/#msg994743
And just when I thought all hope is lost for Smooth.. he comes back with a post that is intelligent and makes sense, from the beginning to the end.
You should choose carefully what you say, with your position in this community.
Erm.. I think maybe you are easily led. Kesh is slimey, controlling, a whiner, very passive aggressive, has a very annoying accent (That's most US citizens to people who speak English though, so I don't blame him for that). Many times when he came Eu for battles I had my finger over that ban button, but opted for muting him instead, since I'm not actually an arsehole.
I think Kesh would do very well in corporate management or US politics, maybe used car sales. He has all the skills and no morals.
EDIT: thinking back I wish I had recorded the stuff like when he is an a battle, will not stfu on TS, then starts trying to shout down an active and competent leader because in his warped mind he thinks he can do it better, despite having no grasp on the limits of the players on his team, no clue as to the goal of the faction he was fighting for, and no connection to them whatsoever.
TBH, what he needs is unmuting, because I would probably go full aspergers like too if I cared about something so bad, so inherantly broken, abusable, and boring as strategus. There are faction vs faction largescale organised games out there that are built to purpose. Strat is not built to anything. If you really care at all about cRPG you would delete your strat bookmark and never go back to it, don't click the battles tab, dont read diplomacy section, let it all die, and let everyone concentrate on something that isnt such a fucking waste of space.
I have emmanual sanders , demeryious thomas , mohammed sanu,and julian edelman
I think Kesh is the new Chosen1 because he is literally down voting every one of my posts.
Guy complained about how he had no life because he downvoted all of his posts meanwhile he does the exact same thing. #Lawl
Smoochcuntmuffing sounds hahacool but wtf is gooch?
The piece of skin in between your balls and asshole.
its a taint
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe gooch is the term for a male while taint is the term for a female
Shut up you pompous asshole jerkoff slimeball. Go burn your mouth on some chai tea bullshit garbage twat drink
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe gooch is the term for a male while taint is the term for a female
Quite an honorable attempt old chap. In fact the term is used interchangeably. Gucci Taint.
guys quick, I need a TL;DR version of this collection of words
you have not yet earned your right peasant.
guys quick, I need a TL;DR version of this collection of words
What I got from this thread was lel or lawl. Take your pick bud
there are a lot of words for it.
i dont uderstand your bullshit attitude anymore jak. we arguably had the tightest and most professional tourney team and now all we do is argue
You were one slow ass shitcock. When you RP online you aren't supposed to RP yourself.
dreadnok how about you go back home to your hut on Autism Atoll, ok pal?
christ, what is it with you jerkoff kids and autism jokes? they are atrocious! im disappointed in darcuntian.
Dread you are the fucking BEST, man. I always loved you, because it's so fucking easy to. You have the most amazing way of insulting someone and making them feel good about it simultaneously. Seriously how do you do it man? You must have a fuck ton of friends I honestly wish I knew you in real life.
When someone insults me they'll just say "You fucking queer" and somehow THAT get's to me. Makes me angry. It makes me angry because its not substantial at all. It's fucking lazy. They didn't take the time to acknowledge my weakness and exploit it. Whether it being I look like a banana or whatever.
You, on the other hand- you come up with such lovely shit right off the bat. Maybe these aren't the best "dread" examples. But the shit I've witnessed you say is a fucking class act man. You do it in such a good way- you insult without making it personal or even pertaining to them. And it's over whatever medium: Ts, in game, or on the forums.
You just ooze coolness You are bad ass bro. And when you "tell someone off" I never think "oh shit that guy got told". No one does. We all just laugh and enjoy the fucking genius that is dread.
I'll forever remember the one time we were all in frisia ts getting ready for a strat battle. There was some annoying SS 16 year old british kid (and yes he ACTUALLY WAS 16) yammering on about some stupid bullshit. He was a right pompous douche. The second you came in you had everyone cracking up. He HATED it. He kept trying to make fun of you and bring you down (because before you came in he was leading the conversation) but you just kept deflecting the shit out of him. You turned around everything he said and did it without really being a dickbag. You had us all laughing.
That's what makes the community great. People like you. Keep it up man. And seriously autism jokes are over played. More than half of you assholes would be lucky to be considered autistic. You have no mental disease and are still sorry excuses for human beings (myself included).
There are a few characters from this mod I will always remember- Dread you are one of them. I was going to pm you, but this is a shit thread and deserved another shit post.
On the off chance a mod is reading this post: I have no feelings one way or another for you.