Hm I would say simply not actively trying to defend the flags is kickable (bannable).
stop stop stop
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where did this stupid idea come from that people should be kicked and banned from cRPG if they are not TRYING THEIR VERY HARDEST TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE ADMINS
it is a limitlessly stupid and nerdy viewpoint and it is bad and you should feel bad
In the Mod Mercenaries there's a rule for that, when a HA is last or a cav he has to dismount or fight with melee weapons otherwise it counts as delaying and also gets bannedThis isn't Merc mod
In the Mod Mercenaries there's a rule for that, when a HA is last or a cav he has to dismount or fight with melee weapons otherwise it counts as delaying and also gets banned
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You don't need a rule, you just need admins with Good Sense. That is to say, yeah, you need a rule in cRPG for this.A rule would be less for the players - we tend to ignore the silly ones anyway - but for the "safety" of the admin. Just look at the shitstorm Thomek got every single time he kicked some HA cuz he was prancing around miles off the enemies instead of actually give melee a fighting chance....
In the Mod Mercenaries there's a rule for that, when a HA is last or a cav he has to dismount or fight with melee weapons otherwise it counts as delaying and also gets banned
Hm I would say simply not actively trying to defend the flags is kickable (bannable). Its pretty easy to see if the cav is engaged in a deadly duel with another cav, or just farming valour by backstabbing infantry at the other end of the map while 1 opponent captures the flag.
Probably because Thomek is the worst admin imaginable. If you look up the antonym of "Good Sense" in a dictionary, you'll find his name there. Sensible admins like Tenne rarely cause shitstorms, for a reason.
Atas does this every single round and it drives me mad.
^This.
I dismounted a lot when I played as US Cav, but my old friendgets in tons of armour ganking a 7 str build with no athletics and a short falchion/nomad sabre made me stop doing it. Nowadays I'll just take more chances when left alone, going for the shoot-and-bump, which gets you one-hit if you miss.
In the Mod Mercenaries there's a rule for that, when a HA is last or a cav he has to dismount or fight with melee weapons otherwise it counts as delaying and also gets banned
You have the power to block my arrows with your shield, I have the power to shoot them
Stalemate.
You have the power to raise the flag, I don't, gratz you win the x5, problem?
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Andswaru it's just that enforcing such a rule would suck hard. I don't even dismount every time either but you can bet I'm circling around the flag area/ going away only to come back to it in a different angle (so I wouldn't be breaking the rule since I'm actually trying to win the round, even if against near impossible odds).
What makes this difficult is that it leaves so much room for different interpretations of the rule. It always leads to a bunch of unhappy campers "not knowing" why they were banned :D.
It must be feasible to code that players that lose the round through flags while they are still alive, are unable to get valour regardless of their score. Want valour, do a valorous attempt to win the round by charging the flags. Sure they will suicide at the end of the round, but that forces them to be reasonably close to other players at least. It seems pretty wrong that Atas and scum like him get rewarded with valour while they run, delay and pad their k/d by not having to die.
In other games ive many times seen the solution of autoslaying the survivors of the loosing team
It must be feasible to code that players that lose the round through flags while they are still alive, are unable to get valour regardless of their score. Want valour, do a valorous attempt to win the round by charging the flags. Sure they will suicide at the end of the round, but that forces them to be reasonably close to other players at least. It seems pretty wrong that Atas and scum like him get rewarded with valour while they run, delay and pad their k/d by not having to die.
Suicide > Surviving, okay.It is in fact only suicide if you are delaying scum that tries to farm valour at the expense of everyone else and die to be eligible for valour, us normal people will see it as fighting for the objective till death or victory. Surviving while your team loses by flag is the least valorous thing you can do, why should you be eligible for receiving valour in that scenario?
U can't ban or kick ppl for,playing their class. Nor can u ban them for a faulty gamemode.1 - will make the rounds last even longer when the majority is dead and waiting
Just:
1-replacing MotF with a different "catalyst":
When the round's about to finish, have a "backup call" initiated, that spawns 20 Bots/Team, which only attack Players, not other Bots. Thats when all players will most certainly die, however have the chance to get valor,or win the round even. Just like a dtv wave.
2-u can only gain score if you're close to teammates
3-perma x3 for everyone, x4 and x5 only gained by valor.
4-valor only achievable by saving/helping teammates or surviving the backupcall, not by damage dealt
U can't ban or kick ppl for,playing their class. Nor can u ban them for a faulty gamemode.
Just:
1-replacing MotF with a different "catalyst":
When the round's about to finish, have a "backup call" initiated, that spawns 20 Bots/Team, which only attack Players, not other Bots. Thats when all players will most certainly die, however have the chance to get valor,or win the round even. Just like a dtv wave.
2-u can only gain score if you're close to teammates
3-perma x3 for everyone, x4 and x5 only gained by valor.
4-valor only achievable by saving/helping teammates or surviving the backupcall, not by damage dealt
Could Admins please take this matter in hand, and start kicking cavs that are mearly trying to farm their "valour entiltment" as one of them put it this morning (which actually caused me to finally write this thread) instead of actually trying to capture the flags at the end of the round? Its quite sicking, no matter which side you are on, to watch them ride around farming points for self gain instead of trying to assist their team by actually winning the round.
hm im not complaining about any class been overpowered or not.. I actually enjoy the balance. I just dislike people who dont try for their team.
Add senni__Ti's codechange to the game!
Seems HA's are just as great cunts in RL as I imagine them to be.
It is in fact only suicide if you are delaying scum that tries to farm valour at the expense of everyone else and die to be eligible for valour, us normal people will see it as fighting for the objective till death or victory. Surviving while your team loses by flag is the least valorous thing you can do, why should you be eligible for receiving valour in that scenario?
Seems HA's are just as great cunts in RL as I imagine them to be.
I think valour (the name) should be changed so you don't misinterpret it, it's supposed to show your impact in battle. Survive > SuicideI literally do not see how avoiding the objective of your team > fighting for that objective. Once again, only the people that delay for valour will see dying to get valour as suiciding, all the non-cunts will see it as doing what you can to win, even if the odds are terrible. Surviving on the losing team = delaying, as you avoided the objective of the round, therefore your impact on the battle was crap.
Seems HA's are just as great cunts in RL as I imagine them to be.
If you're fighting off somewhere else and you realize oh shit your team died, why would you suicide run to the flag? I don't see the point.The point is to prevent players like Atas and every single horse ranged from farming valour while prolonging the round by running away to the edge of the map and farming easy points from chasers. Last session I played he literally did it every single round for about 1,5 hours straight, delaying the round significantly and getting rewarded for it fairly consistently. It is a real issue. In the case you described, which is far less common, you either do your best to get to the flags and win or die, or you survive but lose your chance at valour. Which I think is fair for not even bothering to try to make your team win.
Hahahaha, that one made me laugh real hard Thomek, never thought something you'll say will make me laugh tho.
"Cunt" ha, well I can't be bigger cunt then you, I will never forget that moment, 2 years ago maybe even more, when you used to kick Spectators just because you have powers to do it, I still remember, it was 50+ active players and about 15 Spectating that day for whatever reason, and there was max 100 players on server at that time, absolutly no reason for kicking yet you did it.
Haven't you asked yourself why's there always shitstorms around you Thomek, is it really that we're all wrong and you're right ?
I guess you're just to arrogant to see the truth, how bad of an Admin you are, and how much abusing you did in all this years of your terror over cRPG community, one good deed for every hundredth bad.
And how did you even get Admin powers makes me wonder even more, I guess it was like all stupid blond girls do...you know, under the table.
I despise you Thomek, you and your actions over all this years.
Damn you Thomek, that time 700+ days ago where you kicked a few spectators!
Damn you Thomek, that time 700+ days ago where you kicked a few spectators!
Seriously?
Why does Thomek not have his admin removed already?!
This is just unacceptable!
The point is to prevent players like Atas and every single horse ranged from farming valour while prolonging the round by running away to the edge of the map and farming easy points from chasers. Last session I played he literally did it every single round for about 1,5 hours straight, delaying the round significantly and getting rewarded for it fairly consistently. It is a real issue. In the case you described, which is far less common, you either do your best to get to the flags and win or die, or you survive but lose your chance at valour. Which I think is fair for not even bothering to try to make your team win.
Hahahaha, that one made me laugh real hard Thomek, never thought something you'll say will make me laugh tho.
"Cunt" ha, well I can't be bigger cunt then you, I will never forget that moment, 2 years ago maybe even more, when you used to kick Spectators just because you have powers to do it, I still remember, it was 50+ active players and about 15 Spectating that day for whatever reason, and there was max 100 players on server at that time, absolutly no reason for kicking yet you did it.
Haven't you asked yourself why's there always shitstorms around you Thomek, is it really that we're all wrong and you're right ?
I guess you're just to arrogant to see the truth, how bad of an Admin you are, and how much abusing you did in all this years of your terror over cRPG community, one good deed for every hundredth bad.
And how did you even get Admin powers makes me wonder even more, I guess it was like all stupid blond girls do...you know, under the table.
I despise you Thomek, you and your actions over all this years.
Common Sense is the rule.
If you have low to none chances to win a round and just trying hard to farm valor making a server (which is an average 60 players) look at you for minutes and minutes you're having none of this common sense, and you get warned for that. You keep the ass act, you get removed.
If the flags bug out (again, about 3 in 5 flags bug), you're even risking more.
Atas tries an even more disgusting method to farm valor, during the round as long as he's engaging, no problem, it's his free time he's wasting.
But when the round is about him vs several enemy players (which is 86% of the times) and forces the full server pop to watch him try to farm this so precious valor to him wasting everyone's time, he gets the same treatment. Specially since he often avoids the flags and runs from them. Warn, and a friendly bump out of the server.
It's all about common sense, you're entitled to act like a dick, it's your freaking problem, but when you make it everyone's problem, you get the boot in the ass.
Can we all just agree the common sense rule is bullshit, and you might have to go ahead and put some effort in to writing real rules?
"No drawing/delaying the round on purpose"
We're not talking about HA or anyone that tries to kill everyone or win the round here. We're talking about those that do it for valor, or even worse, pure spite. If HA has a chance and goes for it, he will not be kicked, ever.
Can we all just agree the common sense rule is bullshit, and you might have to go ahead and put some effort in to writing real rules?
We're not talking about HA or anyone that tries to kill everyone or win the round here. We're talking about those that do it for valor, or even worse, pure spite. If HA has a chance and goes for it, he will not be kicked, ever.you kicked me when i was hax 1 vs 8(including cav and archer) i was always close to the enemy shooting/bumping and trying to win. i can or cant doesnt matter. you cant punish me bc the rest of my team is dead.