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Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« on: August 01, 2014, 12:37:14 pm »
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Could Admins please take this matter in hand, and start kicking cavs that are mearly trying to farm their "valour entiltment" as one of them put it this morning (which actually caused me to finally write this thread) instead of actually trying to capture the flags at the end of the round? Its quite sicking, no matter which side you are on, to watch them ride around farming points for self gain instead of trying to assist their team by actually winning the round.

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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 12:46:38 pm »
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It's kinda hard to define a proper rule that an admin can act upon...

When the flag spawns while the cav in question is fighting someone, should he leave him be and go straight to the flag?
If not, which time frame would be appropriate for the cav to stop engaging someone away from the flag?

I know what you're talking about and I rarely see it from melee cav. When it happens, most of the times it's some kind of ranged cav. That's a hornets nest that you would be poking :P
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 01:05:50 pm »
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As Molly said most times HAs or HXs do this art of delaying as they know they cannot kill the 4 guys of the enemy team at the flag.
There is one thing that should be fixed befor that: Flags.
Almost 50% of the flags do not work. You are glad you do not have to chase this boring HA, because flags...and then: BOOM haha flags bugged, now go search this stupid HA.
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 01:06:07 pm »
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Hm I would say simply not actively trying to defend the flags is kickable (bannable). Its pretty easy to see if the cav is engaged in a deadly duel with another cav, or just farming valour by backstabbing infantry at the other end of the map while 1 opponent captures the flag.
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2014, 01:16:26 pm »
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Love it or hate(more) it, ranged cav is part of the game.
They'll probably lose the round, so why not let them get a few points to try to get valour? Should they not do that so you can save 1 death on top of getting +1 multi next round? Its not pleasant to be on the receiving end of, but the prerogative of ranged cav at all times is to incur damage to enemies from a distance, whilst taking non themselves. The flags, and few remaining players, just means they focus their attention to fewer players, potentially who cannot counter them.

I dunno man, its shit when it happens to you, but the multi makes it ok for me.
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2014, 01:26:44 pm »
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It's the exact same thing as some melee players (I could name quite a lot), instead of fighting with the team they will leave you to die so they can chase peasants/archers to get valour and of course to make themselves look good for dat K/d - when in fact their shite players.


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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 01:50:56 pm »
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You don't need a rule, you just need admins with Good Sense. That is to say, yeah, you need a rule in cRPG for this.
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2014, 02:10:35 pm »
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Hm I would say simply not actively trying to defend the flags is kickable (bannable).

stop stop stop

no

where did this stupid idea come from that people should be kicked and banned from cRPG if they are not TRYING THEIR VERY HARDEST TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE ADMINS

it is a limitlessly stupid and nerdy viewpoint and it is bad and you should feel bad

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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2014, 02:49:59 pm »
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In the Mod Mercenaries there's a rule for that, when a HA is last or a cav he has to dismount or fight with melee weapons otherwise it counts as delaying and also gets banned
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2014, 02:50:53 pm »
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stop stop stop

no

where did this stupid idea come from that people should be kicked and banned from cRPG if they are not TRYING THEIR VERY HARDEST TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE ADMINS

it is a limitlessly stupid and nerdy viewpoint and it is bad and you should feel bad

The truth^

Also, you are grouping all cav into one stereotype... Not all white people are bad at dancing, and not all Asians are good at math.

In the Mod Mercenaries there's a rule for that, when a HA is last or a cav he has to dismount or fight with melee weapons otherwise it counts as delaying and also gets banned
This isn't Merc mod

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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2014, 02:54:21 pm »
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In the Mod Mercenaries there's a rule for that, when a HA is last or a cav he has to dismount or fight with melee weapons otherwise it counts as delaying and also gets banned

Even if he's 1v1 against 2h guy with no shield and clearly winning? Idea behind the rule is good but just doens't work. Flags are good countermeasure, just if they'd work properly.

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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2014, 03:01:26 pm »
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I think people that are waiting somewhere in the back of the map to save their k/d are equally a problem. *Kuch* GTX *Kuch* Atas

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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2014, 03:03:57 pm »
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2014, 03:16:02 pm »
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If the flags actually work, it's a 100% non-issue.  If the flags aren't working, the admin needs to tell the offending delayer to go fight.  It's really that simple.
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Re: Delaying/None flag capturing Cavs.
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2014, 04:19:40 pm »
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You don't need a rule, you just need admins with Good Sense. That is to say, yeah, you need a rule in cRPG for this.
A rule would be less for the players - we tend to ignore the silly ones anyway - but for the "safety" of the admin. Just look at the shitstorm Thomek got every single time he kicked some HA cuz he was prancing around miles off the enemies instead of actually give melee a fighting chance....
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