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Title: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 04, 2014, 10:45:53 am
Hello ladies & gentlement !

On this topic, you will find/ask/speak about everything which rely to warhammer 40.000 :)

For those who don't know the universe, you have several ways to start learning it.
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By reading on the web :

Warhammer 40.000 : Wikia :
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_40k_Wiki


The Lexicanum :
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_40,000#.U7ZlcPl_uaI

Wikipedia (not the best imo) :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000

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You can also discover the universe on Youtube.

Here a channel which explains in audio the races :

The Vaults of Terra :
https://www.youtube.com/user/VaultsOfTerra

Now some tributes videos without explanations : (just good pictures)

Imperium of man videos :
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Now another list with the other races/factions :
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Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 04, 2014, 10:51:09 am
Okey, now here some warhammer trailers :

Dawn of War :

Dawn of War 2 :

Dawn of War 2 : Retribution :

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The Lord Inquisitor trailer n°1 :

The Lord Inquisitor trailer n°2 :
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Kirman on July 04, 2014, 10:59:31 am
Okey, now here some warhammer trailers :

Dawn of War :

I use to play this one a lot. I really like it but now i'm kinda lost. There are tons of warhammer 40.000 and no idea which one i should buy.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 04, 2014, 08:02:28 pm
I use to play this one a lot. I really like it but now i'm kinda lost. There are tons of warhammer 40.000 and no idea which one i should buy.
Depends on what you like. :)

Retribution is fun if you liked original DOW.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Clockworkkiller on July 04, 2014, 08:17:53 pm
Storm of vengeance best 40k game
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on July 04, 2014, 09:19:48 pm
I just love the 40k universe, its epic and it has the ultimate badass warriors. Loved most of the games, still play dow2 last stand from time to time, still fun and great to kill hundreds of creeps
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 05, 2014, 12:09:10 am
I just love the 40k universe, its epic and it has the ultimate badass warriors. Loved most of the games, still play dow2 last stand from time to time, still fun and great to kill hundreds of creeps
Give your steam, i also play some last stands time to time :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 05, 2014, 12:12:55 am
Are the gammes any good? I am more of a fluff guy but i never rly looked into it any suggestion wwhich 1 i should start with?
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 05, 2014, 12:44:21 am
Are the gammes any good? I am more of a fluff guy but i never rly looked into it any suggestion wwhich 1 i should start with?
What are you speaking about ?
Games ? Books ?
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Christo on July 05, 2014, 01:46:17 am
After lurking some time on the lexicanum, I really liked reading about these guys.

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There is just something about merciless killing machines and spooki space mecha-skeletons that I can't resist.  :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 05, 2014, 02:10:12 am
After lurking some time on the lexicanum, I really liked reading about these guys.

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There is just something about merciless killing machines and spooki space mecha-skeletons that I can't resist.  :)
Yeah, the Necrons are pretty cools, you should watch the video i posted.
It's well made. :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Christo on July 05, 2014, 02:26:33 am
I watched some gameplay videos while deciding on a game to try out in this universe.

I looked at the space marine game gameplay in the beginning and the voice acting of the orks is just... ahahahaha
"U wot m8 i swer on me mum"

What the hell is that, I must see this  :lol:
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 05, 2014, 02:28:42 am
What are you speaking about ?
Games ? Books ?

Sorry, videogames*  :wink:
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Berserkadin on July 05, 2014, 04:30:46 am
WH40K is the definition of grimdark.

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Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 05, 2014, 10:54:03 am
WH40K is the definition of grimdark.

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Aha, when we saw how became the 20 sons of the Emperor, it's pretty good to use this awesome protection.  :lol:
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on July 05, 2014, 12:43:01 pm
Necrons and Tau OP. That is all.

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Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Angantyr on July 05, 2014, 02:10:18 pm
I installed Dawn of War II the other day, so far one the best 40k videogames I've seen.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 05, 2014, 02:28:49 pm
My old custom chapter thread on Dakka: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/539935.page

As you can see I am super bad in writing, but hey.. i enjoy doing it. :)

I then lost interest in spessmahrines and fell in love with the imperial guard armoured regiments(mostly due to reading Gunheads and my general affection for armoured vehicles)

Also before anyone goes full retard on the parts of shit that arent 100% correct fluffwise: I dont care, I do this solely for fun and because I find the 40k universe very immersive, but I dont care about the details.

As I said earlier, when it comes to fluff 40k 'nerds' get really fucking annoying and unpleasant to be around. :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 05, 2014, 03:22:08 pm
I do think so, but what youll most likely see is that it hugely differs per world. In Gunheads a Lt Gen was mentioned to have fought as a tank commander himself, though it is hard to extract a clear conclusion I think it is safe to say that it does happen.

If you take the Cadia, its a world(or a group of worlds?) that is fully militarized, so I do think infantry, IF they would survive long enough (IF IF IF) could be promoted to a staff function, though what you mostly see is, fm the books ive read, is that guar get promoted for showing bravery and heroisme in the face of the enemy.

But, to be fair, a guardsmans live is practicly worth less then his gun - shows how ruthless the 40k universe is. Most will die, but some will be promoted.

I also think with the Valhallan regiments that there is a certain aristocracy that often holds the higher ranks, but i cant remember exactly.
Great book btw is Fifteen Hours, really short but powerfull story - shows exactly how expendable a guardsman is.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on July 05, 2014, 10:16:25 pm

Satisfying the OP and purpose of this thread i have a question - in the Imperial army, do you only achieve ranks through merit, or is there some aristocracy there? For example, was a Lord General always once a basic infantryman, or are they privileged people who come in with rank? If thye've had to survive enough battles to gain that rank from being just an infantryman, i think that makes them some of the most badass characters in the universe, cos those infantrymen drop like flies xD

As far as I know in the 40k universe the imperial guard distinguishes between the lower ranks (normal troops, squad leaders...) and officers. Officers are being trained differently and are usually never a "grunt". Though they do participate in battles if the situation requires it (that means being overrun and either fight or die). In general they do show up on the battlefield but rather just command and keep an eye on the overall situation than being busy with tunnel vision shooting.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: [ptx] on July 06, 2014, 12:40:42 am
Space Marine is an awesome game, so brutal :lol:

Also, first DoW, with expansions, just seems so much more fun to me than DoW2.

If you haven't played it, then you should try it, in order: Dawn of War, DoW Winter Assault, DoW Dark Crusade. Soulstorm expansion is generally considered to be inferior (it was made by a different company, afaik).

Another fun 40k game is Rites of War - it is an older tactical strategy game, quite challenging and fun, has a lot of progression to it as well.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 06, 2014, 11:15:11 pm
Clank clank clank

They nailed the sounds in Space Marine, the walking really sounds as if you are clad in a steel armor and firing that bolter feels like throwing tiny Mjolnirs around  :twisted:
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Christo on July 07, 2014, 03:45:14 am
Clank clank clank

They nailed the sounds in Space Marine, the walking really sounds as if you are clad in a steel armor and firing that bolter feels like throwing tiny Mjolnirs around  :twisted:

Too bad my PC broke down again while playing it.  :|
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 09:44:21 am
I guess that would be in keeping with the British Army parallels. And even if it was like that, to get to Lord General or similar high rank that's still a ton of campaigns that you'd have to complete/survive from 'lieutenant'
To be honnest, a lot of countries all around the world proceded like this. :)

If you still want to compare the Imperial Guard with our countries in the world, i would say that the old Russia Communism is by far the closest one.
(and not only because of the commisar  :D )


Another fun 40k game is Rites of War - it is an older tactical strategy game, quite challenging and fun, has a lot of progression to it as well.
I'll get a look at this one. :)

By the way, now they are working on another game named : "Eternal Crusade"
Here the link : https://www.eternalcrusade.com/
I really don't know what to think about it (yet)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 09:45:58 am
Too bad my PC broke down again while playing it.  :|

:S sucks mate, I for some reason cant play the multiplayer mode, as soon as I get into an online game the textures go batshit crazy - the visual effect is very much like the matrix, half of my mrine will suddenly be light green particles.  :lol:

What happened that it crashed?
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 09:50:42 am
I guess that would be in keeping with the British Army parallels. And even if it was like that, to get to Lord General or similar high rank that's still a ton of campaigns that you'd have to complete/survive from 'lieutenant'

Actually, it is mentioned that some guardmen spend their entire lives on a single world, i think there is even mention of second generation of the said guardsman fighting alongside their fathers.

Got to see itin perspective, this is not country vs country, but rather world vs world. Wars in the IoM are wars of attrition, when it comes to the imperial guard that is. Spacemarines are q tacticly strong asset that is used selectively and where it is most needed.

10000 marines per chapter aint alot for a galaxy as large as ours!



Cathapractii Pattern Terminator armour - used mostly during the great crusade..

So pretty!
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Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 10:24:47 am
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Ullanor's victory.

I let you enjoy the primarchs here, (even if i think Horus isn't that well made on this drawing :( )
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 10:34:02 am
Huehue Magnus the Red, looks so evil.. Even though he was good..

Btw, y do you think Horus is badly made here? I think hes portrayed pretty good. He was iirc a very charismatic leader.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 10:52:46 am
Huehue Magnus the Red, looks so evil.. Even though he was good..

Btw, y do you think Horus is badly made here? I think hes portrayed pretty good. He was iirc a very charismatic leader.
I freaking love Magnus & Dorn.
Magnus loyal till the end !

About Horus : Well its the point...
On this picture in my opinion he doesn't look so charismatic. (He looks more "evil" and doubtfull)
edit: I mean for me, how is he here is the Horus slighty corrupted (time or Istvaan III) and not the one described in the first book.
(Which will come a bit after Ullanor's triomph)

For me Horus is like this :
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Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 10:56:47 am
I see what you mean yeah, the artist is apparantly not that good with faces, or he is only good in making angry expressions..  :lol:

Yeah, I know that pic, there he does show a kind of warm heartedness, where he shows a.. Sarcastic smile? In the other picture.

The favoured son..
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 12:23:32 pm
I know that, and how relatively specialist the Space Marine forces are whereas the Imperial Guardsmen are the vast bulk of the meatgrinder army. I was just curious as to whether the Generals had fought their way up through ALL the ranks from the lowliest guardsman, or whether they came in as officers due to space aristocracy.

If they had come from the lowest ranks, in my opinion that makes them even more bad-ass than a Space Marine, because surviving several battles and earning commissions as a guardsman must be crazy - you have no hulking armour or doomsday weapons, just a rifle and a 30 second life expectancy.

What I always go by is the fact that the 40k universe is so massive and the IoM is so full of different lifestyles that there probably always is a world that does have that kind of hierarchy.
I know for a fact that in Hive worlds there are classes, and that the upper hive is (again, iirc, its been a long time) in fact the aristocracy - though it would sound far more likely for the aristocracy to avoid getting summoned for war at all. I think they rather pay the IoM then to send their children away.

Once a guardsman leaves his homeworld hell never see his family again, due to warp travel and how time passes by. He could for example be in service for 10 years only to return home and find that his parents have been dead for a 100 years. But 99.9999% never see their homeworld again.

Hmm, but you got to keep in mind that a space marine will be only called if the situation is severe enough, thus negating the superior (everything)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: NejStark on July 07, 2014, 02:04:58 pm
IG 4 lyf. Played 40K from age like 12-16, then recently aged 28 my colleagues got back into it, and I still had some of my army. Bopught some new stuff, repainted old stuff, and we had lots of fun battles (500-2000pts), playing 5th Ed rules.

Didnt know what colour to paint the army, and I really liked my trainers at the time, so painted my army like my trainers. Never really got into the fluff, just enjoyed the tabletop game.


Here it is:
http://imgur.com/a/go13V


Had a lot of fun with this army build. People always expect tanks with IG, so I sometimes took 100% inf just to fuck with ppl, and won :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uohlizzed7kr7r1/500pts%20inf%20autocannon%20spam.pdf

Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: NejStark on July 07, 2014, 03:19:23 pm
When I was younger I did do straight TAllarn, Catachan and Cadians as they looked on the box (but worse obviously), but yeah with that lot I just thought fuck it, and I think it ended up pretty good.
Im selling my valkyries and tanks on ebay at the moment though.. Take up too much space cos theyre huge. 
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 03:19:36 pm
THE PRIMARCHS & THEIR LEGIONS


Magnus The Red & The Thousand Sons :
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Rogal Dorn & The Imperial Fist :
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Perturabo & The Iron Warriors:
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Lion El' Jonson & The Dark Angels :
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Roboute Guilliman & The Ultramarines:
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Konrad Curze & The Night Lords :
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Fulgrim & The Emperor's children :
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Horus Lupercal & The luna Wolves :
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I did 9 of 18, i'll do the next later :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: NejStark on July 07, 2014, 03:51:11 pm
Herezy the absolute content monster!
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 04:04:30 pm
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/552720.page

My term cc squad and a dreadnaught(dreadnaughts are the shit) in my own chapters colors.

A thread with more detailed photos:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/555194.page

I would post them here, but im lazy..

The model i'm most proud of:

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Green stuffed the robe myself, the weapon is a combi melta that i made myself aswell :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: [ptx] on July 07, 2014, 04:21:28 pm
I agree, the bald version of Horus is one fugly ass, not charismatic whatsoever.

Eternal Crusade concept sounds bad-ass as hell :o
Love the concept of Free-to-Waaaagh, way to make the greenskins a true horde :lol:
If that game turns out to be half-decent, you can bet i will be playing an Eldar in it :D

Angron is the ultimate hypocritical asshat. Fuck him.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 04:55:26 pm
I agree, the bald version of Horus is one fugly ass, not charismatic whatsoever.

Eternal Crusade concept sounds bad-ass as hell :o
Love the concept of Free-to-Waaaagh, way to make the greenskins a true horde :lol:
If that game turns out to be half-decent, you can bet i will be playing an Eldar in it :D

Angron is the ultimate hypocritical asshat. Fuck him.
Yes the Waaagh idea sounds fun.
(I would play a Night Lord, or give me an Imperial Fist ! Or even better, give me a Fire-Warrior !)
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Angron is a fanatic rager.
His anger has no limit :)
Angron: "Blood for Horus" (The first quote before Khorne ^^)
I don't Like Leman Russ either. As i don't like his legion as well. (They are a bit "limited" @Thousand Sons book)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: [ptx] on July 07, 2014, 05:08:01 pm
About Angron, have you read the books about him in HH? His motivation for turning traitor and doing what he does? Massive cunt.

Well, you don't really have to like Leman Russ, afterall... (no spoilers?)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 05:20:09 pm
About Angron, have you read the books about him in HH? His motivation for turning traitor and doing what he does? Massive cunt.

Well, you don't really have to like Leman Russ, afterall... (no spoilers?)

i have read 7-8 books about the HH, but i didn't read Angron's story (yet)
What's the title of the book ? i forgot :(
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I am currently reading the Alpha Legion.
(I started reading HH one year ago)
Before the HH i already read many many many 40k books :)
I needed it, in order to write correctly and make as less as possible fluff errors for my own book :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: [ptx] on July 07, 2014, 05:21:15 pm
Nope, that's what everyone thinks Angron is about, but not the truth.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 05:58:58 pm
The wolves are the Emperor's executioners.. What they did on Prospero.. Well, considering the circumstances and how it must have looked in the Emprahs eyes to have the barriers of Terra breached..               

Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 06:00:59 pm
 Think Lorgar and Angron already accepted chaos before Horus fully gave in to it.

So... Blood for the blood god!
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Post by: Tibe on July 07, 2014, 06:08:29 pm
Eh I figured id make a little joke
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Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 06:19:31 pm
Hmm, Idk actually, I know Rubiks marines do(thousand sons under Ahrimans spells), but ive never really had any interest in the chaos marines.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: [ptx] on July 07, 2014, 06:35:48 pm
Afaik, champions, favoured by the gods, may be resurrected. Example: Lucius the Eternal of the Emperor's Children
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 06:39:11 pm
Hmm, Idk actually, I know Rubiks marines do(thousand sons under Ahrimans spells), but ive never really had any interest in the chaos marines.
Some "Chaos" legion are really interesting like the Thousand Sons, The Night Lords, or the Alpha Legion
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 06:45:09 pm
Some "Chaos" legion are really interesting like the Thousand Sons, The Night Lords, or the Alpha Legion

Yeah, I should look more into it, I only got some minor information in the Ragnar Blackmane series, but that already showed some fairly interesting stuff.

But: a chaos base on Fenris, yo. Kinda stretches it huh.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 07, 2014, 06:59:01 pm
Yeah, I should look more into it, I only got some minor information in the Ragnar Blackmane series, but that already showed some fairly interesting stuff.

But: a chaos base on Fenris, yo. Kinda stretches it huh.
Man, the best book from Chaos legion i read so far is :
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Night_Lords_(Novel_Series)#.U7rRp_l_uaI
I only read the 1st one, so no spoil :D

But you learn so much about Night Lords, and many of them aren't corrupted.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Christo on July 07, 2014, 11:06:42 pm
What happened that it crashed?

Failing motherboard or PSU, but most likely Motherboard.

Pain in the arse because I can't really replace it.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 07, 2014, 11:24:45 pm
Failing motherboard or PSU, but most likely Motherboard.

Pain in the arse because I can't really replace it.

Dang bro its too bad you couldnt atleast finish the campaign, idk its just awesome being a spessmahrine  :lol:

Man, the best book from Chaos legion i read so far is :
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Night_Lords_(Novel_Series)#.U7rRp_l_uaI
I only read the 1st one, so no spoil :D

But you learn so much about Night Lords, and many of them aren't corrupted.

I got it on ipad books :D just havent gotten around to reading it, got a metric ton of warhammer 40k novels still to be read. I think atleast 25  :lol:
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Post by: Christo on July 08, 2014, 12:13:40 am
Dang bro its too bad you couldnt atleast finish the campaign, idk its just awesome being a spessmahrine  :lol:

Eh I give it a few days, then it will resurrect on its own.

Every now and then my PC plays this with me. It's like the biggest dramaqueen ever, playing the role of jesus with drama :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 08, 2014, 12:45:33 am
Eh I give it a few days, then it will resurrect on its own.

Every now and then my PC plays this with me. It's like the biggest dramaqueen ever, playing the role of jesus with drama :mrgreen:

Lmao I knew it all too well, my old pc had its moments where it would show blue screen (you know, blue screen :P) for 4 days straight and then suddenly worked again..  :mad: when that happened on the weekends oof I went ballistic  :lol:
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Post by: Renay on July 08, 2014, 12:53:14 am
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 08, 2014, 02:57:15 pm
The wolves are the Emperor's executioners.. What they did on Prospero.. Well, considering the circumstances and how it must have looked in the Emprahs eyes to have the barriers of Terra breached..               
And what are the Night Lords ? eh ? :D

As Konrad Curze said, the Emperor used him as a tool of death in order to erase and do all the dirty jobs.

It's pretty close to the Space Wolves' job. Even if they use different ways.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 08, 2014, 02:59:26 pm
And what are the Night Lords ? eh ? :D

As Konrad Curze said, the Emperor used him as a tool of death in order to erase and do all the dirty jobs.

It's pretty close to the Space Wolves' job. Even if they use different ways.
Iirc, the Night Lords favoured "lightning raids"? Whilst the space wolves used 'brute force'.

Im not sure though..
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 08, 2014, 03:03:56 pm
Iirc, the Night Lords favoured "lightning raids"? Whilst the space wolves used 'brute force'.

Im not sure though..
It's what i'm saying, they used different ways but for the same mission.

They were both used as "tools" in order to erase an enemy / planet
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 08, 2014, 03:06:43 pm
It's what i'm saying, they used different ways but for the same mission.

They were both used as "tools" in order to erase an enemy / planet

Btw, didnt conrad go batshit crazy in his tower?

Hmm... He wasnt traitor at first, right?

Im interested now, gonna read some fluff about it.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 08, 2014, 03:45:22 pm
Btw, didnt conrad go batshit crazy in his tower?

Hmm... He wasnt traitor at first, right?

Im interested now, gonna read some fluff about it.
To sum up :

He got used as a tool of death by the Emperor.
The Emperor knew how he was doing the "job" and he let him doing it.

Then, when the dirty job has been done, some voice from the Imperial authority started to yell & repport how brutal Konrad Curze was.

Konrad got called by the Emperor and then has been humiliated in public. And went back to his palace.
Konrad had a special "skill" he has visions. With the time, the visions started to ruin his life. Especially because of one always poping up.
The one where the Emperor kills him.

He already escaped to many tries of assassins.
Bored, sad, and harassed by his visions (its much more complicated but well...) he decided to let the next assassin finish him.
A bit before that, he called all his captains, and gave the crown to his favorite son and explained that he will die this night. And no one should intervene.
(The captains had enormous different point of views on everythings) => very important when they will become "renegade" because some will completly fall in the corruption of chaos, when others will stay  "pure" and fight for their "justice"
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Post by: Joseph Porta on July 08, 2014, 04:11:40 pm
Hmm, interesting, they also dont actively support any of the chaos gods, right? (Like the world eaters where khorne, etc.)
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Post by: Herezy92 on July 08, 2014, 04:21:50 pm
Hmm, interesting, they also dont actively support any of the chaos gods, right? (Like the world eaters where khorne, etc.)
Some does.
Some got corrupted by daemons etc...
it's 50/50
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Renay on July 08, 2014, 04:33:18 pm
Huh, Night Lords always looked very evil to me
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Post by: Herezy92 on July 08, 2014, 04:34:02 pm
Huh, Night Lords always looked very evil to me
Evil != corrupted by Chaos

And they hate so much the Emperor for what he did to their Father.
It's one of the few Legion which has good reasons to fight & hate the Imperium.
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Post by: [ptx] on July 08, 2014, 05:34:30 pm
Hardly. Curze might've been haunted by visions, but he became a mad murderer by choice. It was also his own choice on how to do what his legion did, as brutally and cruelly as they did it. It was under no instruction.
He also turned traitor, just for the chance to strike at his more "noble" brothers and reveled in the chance to humiliate and hurt them.

I do not know what made Death Guard turn traitor (no HH books about them so far), but, really though, only Alpha Legion (and perhaps Iron Warriors) come to mind as Legions, that turned traitor and with reasonable cause. Children of Horus/Luna Wolves, Word Bearers and Emperor's Children all got corrupted, World Eaters - Angron being an insane cunt, Thousand Sons were forced over by the events of Prospero and Night Lords were scum to begin with.
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Post by: Herezy92 on July 08, 2014, 06:49:54 pm
Hardly. Curze might've been haunted by visions, but he became a mad murderer by choice. It was also his own choice on how to do what his legion did, as brutally and cruelly as they did it. It was under no instruction.
He also turned traitor, just for the chance to strike at his more "noble" brothers and reveled in the chance to humiliate and hurt them.

I do not know what made Death Guard turn traitor (no HH books about them so far), but, really though, only Alpha Legion (and perhaps Iron Warriors) come to mind as Legions, that turned traitor and with reasonable cause. Children of Horus/Luna Wolves, Word Bearers and Emperor's Children all got corrupted, World Eaters - Angron being an insane cunt, Thousand Sons were forced over by the events of Prospero and Night Lords were scum to begin with.
Here a good link explaining the Night Lords event's : http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Night_Lords
What you say about Konrad Curze is a bit biased. (You should read the book "Night Lords" or the A-D-B trilogy.
Both are guilty, Konrad & The Emperor.

Here a quote from the link i gave you : (he didn't really had "choice" to become as he was)
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Post by: Christo on July 10, 2014, 12:32:50 pm
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Post by: Herezy92 on July 10, 2014, 01:30:28 pm

Wuuuut m8 ! Fite me irl.

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Post by: Herezy92 on July 10, 2014, 01:49:13 pm
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Post by: [ptx] on July 10, 2014, 05:26:42 pm
RIP in pieces Ferrus  :cry:
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on July 10, 2014, 06:09:12 pm
Forgeworlds model of Ferrus is one hell of a beauty..
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Herezy92 on July 17, 2014, 12:05:57 pm
Bump !

By the way, if some of you are still playing Last stand in Dawn of War 2 : Retribution, Grumpy Nic & myself are sometimes playing few rounds.
Let us know if you wanna participate. :)
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Renay on July 17, 2014, 12:59:17 pm
Bump !

By the way, if some of you are still playing Last stand in Dawn of War 2 : Retribution, Grumpy Nic & myself are sometimes playing few rounds.
Let us know if you wanna participate. :)

Add Renay on steam, the guy with the cool turtle picture!
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Christo on July 23, 2014, 04:48:35 am
This force called the Swooping Hawks got my attention.
(I just love winged stuff, flying is the shit)

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Man the Eldar surely can bring a lot of style to a battlefield.

Still waiting for somebody to make a "digestable" epic game this universe deserves. Definitely Massive Multiplayer.
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Post by: Herezy92 on July 23, 2014, 11:33:39 am
Christo, you will probably love Sanguinius. :)

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Post by: Christo on July 23, 2014, 02:10:08 pm
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Post by: Christo on August 03, 2014, 10:25:52 am
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rogue_Trader#.U93xJaPBYV8 (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rogue_Trader#.U93xJaPBYV8)

I wonder why nobody picked up the idea of creating an open world elite-freelancer like game in this universe.
Maybe using these guys I have just linked, I can't remember if other races have similar 'roles' basically.

I mean think of the possibilites  8-) While I know that the bloody melees and fights are the shit about 40k, this would be interesting to play in my opinion too. Or you should be able to support factions and join them somehow on the ground.

But I still think the most entertaining stuff would be to play both sides and just watch them kill eachother while you are sipping coffee from the bridge of your gold-plated spaceship.  :twisted:
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Angantyr on August 03, 2014, 12:57:18 pm
In general Games Workshop has been greedy and petty in welcoming good use of their license, and Blizzard more or less stole everything from Warhammer Fantasy for Warcraft, and anything from 40K for Starcraft, before either had chance to have real mainstream exposition, and now kids think Warhammer is copying Blizzard.

But Games Workshop blocks most everything so really nothing gets done, it's only been a few years since the one and only 40K movie was released, Ultramarines, which was passable but could and should've been so much better, and the games have in my opinion been pretty bad since Shadow of the Horned Rat and Dark Omen, until DoW, which is good but also could've been much better (more like Men of War and less like Starcraft, I mean there's lots of micromanagement but very little advanced tactics which even dominates the tabletop original). Also fan-made stuff are constantly blocked, for example the guy reading 40K books aloud on Youtube etc. any attempts at making fan fiction, animated movies (though seems Lord Inquisitor has gotten a green light after much unnecessary fuss and debacle) and so on.

The only thing they've been good at releasing are books and the original table top gaming, which really is ridiculously expensive since new rulebooks come out all the time and after armies started being less uniform to facilitate a higher price tag. Original Warhammer by necessity only being a hobby for spoiled kids or adult nerds, until the new generation of video games and books, where you can be a Warhammer nerd even without playing the tabletop game.

They have some of the coolest design and greatest lore, but it is seriously squandered for some reason (probably exorbitant license fees), the whole Blizzard surge could've been in the Warhammer universe, and the game industry better off for it.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Joseph Porta on August 03, 2014, 02:34:03 pm
I paid 70€ for my LR:crusader  :cry: the price tags are indeed to cry over.

Reading Gaunt's Ghosts atm, Imperial Commissars are interesting figures, Unwavering in their loyalty and impervious to bullets .

The Emperor protects!

If only c-rpg had chainswords.. A man can dream!  :mrgreen:

A 40k game A la M&B combat would be neat.
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Renay on September 06, 2014, 05:01:25 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snAMl0YU-hU&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ


https://www.eternalcrusade.com/join-the-war
Title: Re: [SF]Warhammer 40.000 Topic
Post by: Christo on September 07, 2014, 03:43:08 am
Those poor vacuum cleaners.