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Title: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Austrian on June 06, 2014, 04:20:20 pm
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Post by: Lannistark on June 06, 2014, 04:30:52 pm
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Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 06, 2014, 05:36:36 pm
"The system of imperial units or the imperial system (also known as British Imperial) is the system of units first defined in the British Weights and Measures Act of 1824, which was later refined and reduced. The system came into official use across the British Empire."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_the_United_States

needless to say, the attempt to go metric failed in the 80's.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 06, 2014, 05:40:33 pm
Don't put the blame on the British!

They may have introduced it but you're still using that garbage.
Although, at least the scientific sector is already using metric, dunno about engineering.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 06, 2014, 05:48:41 pm
Don't put the blame on the British!

They may have introduced it but you're still using that garbage.
Although, at least the scientific sector is already using metric, dunno about engineering.

lol, brits fault, fucking brits!  They should have let France and Spain colonize the americas, but nooooooo, they had to be greedy, take it all for themselves and start wars! dirty britmy old friends!

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Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Teeth on June 06, 2014, 05:59:25 pm
The thing is, if you grow up using those units it all makes sense through sheer experience, while the metric system always makes sense. So it's basically just the metric raised people that have problems the imperial 'system'.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 06, 2014, 08:22:30 pm
The thing is, if you grow up using those units it all makes sense through sheer experience, while the metric system always makes sense. So it's basically just the metric raised people that have problems the imperial 'system'.

Naw. I know some builders up in Canada and using Imperial units for BUILDING A HOUSE. is WAY WAY better than metric units.

16" is a pretty standard measurement for things in both Canada and US for houses. Unfortunately in Metric that's some 406 mm or 41 cm. It's a pure pain trying to do houses like that. Metric is NOT a system that should be used in small scale building. It  is harder on everyone.(this comes from my Canadian Builder I know. ANything Bordering the US, reliably uses Imperial in building because it's easy and everything comes from here.) I know he's mentioned he's dropped metric tape measures on people when they try to give him metric based measurements and tells them to quite literally "Go to Hell."

Also, farenheit is a better record for weather options. IE 80 degress versus 85 in Fahrenheit is a big difference. In Celsius that's a .2 difference. Course, for everything else, Celsius is so much easier.

Try building a house, or ANYTHING, and use metric units. Then do the same thing with Imperial Units. Much much easier.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: cmp on June 06, 2014, 08:35:24 pm
mad cuz bad (system)
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Franke on June 06, 2014, 08:44:41 pm
Emanzipate yourself of those British weirdos, don' tread on me!
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Osiris on June 06, 2014, 08:49:14 pm
UK still uses many imperial units O.o

we still use miles,yards, pints, ounces, stone, pounds, Feet and inches for height, Acres,

we use the ton and tonne

The British ton (also used in other countries that have the Imperial system of weights and measures) is equal to 2,240 pounds or 1,016.047 kg. It is sometimes referred to as the “long ton”, “weight ton” or “gross ton”.

The North American ton (only used in the United States and Canada) is equal to 2,000 pounds or 907.1847 kg. It is sometimes referred to as the “short ton” or “net ton”.

we cheat like this and use both :D

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I work in the building industry and most things are supposed to be metric but most screws are in imperial and everyone just measures to whats closer :D our metalwork is often 2 inch or 6 inch etc
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Teeth on June 06, 2014, 10:57:57 pm
Try building a house, or ANYTHING, and use metric units. Then do the same thing with Imperial Units. Much much easier.
That is a huge load of horseshit.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Nightmare798 on June 06, 2014, 11:10:31 pm
Not only they still use horrible and outdated systems for defining lenght, temperature, weight and so on, But they are fucking PROUD of it.

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Try building a house, or ANYTHING, and use metric units. Then do the same thing with Imperial Units. Much much easier.

PFFFFT BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Seriously dude? Who are you kidding? Metric units were invented so everything has uniformed and intuitive system.





Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2014, 12:45:10 am
. IE 80 degress versus 85 in Fahrenheit is a big difference. In Celsius that's a .2 difference.
? wat

80 degrees fahrenheit =26.6 celsius
85 fahrenheit =29.4 celsius

How is that any harder to read than 80/85

Certainly, all the Europeans manage it, considering 39 celsius is a huge fever whereas 36.6 is a normal temperature. Yet people somehow don't get confused nonstop about whether or not they have a fever.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Artyem on June 07, 2014, 01:22:41 am
Anders and AntiBlitz are pretty much spot on.  However, both measurements are taught and used in the US, just with more emphasis on the imperial system.  So it's not like we're completely blind to the metric system, we just have a preference to the alternative.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Chosen1 on June 07, 2014, 02:15:27 am
mad cuz bad (system)

mad cuz bad (continent)

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Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2014, 02:25:33 am
Anders and AntiBlitz are pretty much spot on.  However, both measurements are taught and used in the US, just with more emphasis on the imperial system.  So it's not like we're completely blind to the metric system, we just have a preference to the alternative.
"Preference", more like status quo bias
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: cmp on June 07, 2014, 02:27:57 am
mad cuz bad (continent)

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I can't tell if that's supposed to be patriotic or self-deprecating, but it's pretty hilarious in either case.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 07, 2014, 02:33:42 am
That is a huge load of horseshit.

Are you a builder or an Engineer? If not please shut up. I Do this for a living and I know what I'm talking about.


Just an example...
http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-to/qa/why-do-canadian-carpenters-still-measure-in-feet-and-inches.aspx
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The number 10 can be divided evenly only by 2 and 5. But the number 12 can be divided into whole numbers by 2, 3, 4, and 6. This makes for a lot less skull sweat—and better precision—when doing odd things such as dividing into thirds. One-third of a meter is 33.3333333333333 cm, but one-third of a foot is 4 in., period.

Extending this arithmetic ease to working with U.S. standard sheet-good sizes, one finds that a sheet of 48-in. by 96-in. plywood can be divided evenly three different ways in each direction: 12-in. centers (four or eight spans); 16-in. centers (three or six spans); or 24-in. centers (two or four spans). And that sure makes life easier for a hard-working framer.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Mala on June 07, 2014, 08:19:30 am
in the end it is a matter of industry standards.

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Post by: Tibe on June 07, 2014, 09:20:47 am
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That was pure gold.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 07, 2014, 09:29:59 am
Are you a builder or an Engineer? If not please shut up. I Do this for a living and I know what I'm talking about.


Just an example...
http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-to/qa/why-do-canadian-carpenters-still-measure-in-feet-and-inches.aspx
You do realize that cutting your wood planks or carpets in metric units at production gives you the exact same advantages? :x
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Teeth on June 07, 2014, 09:50:16 am
You do realize that cutting your wood planks or carpets in metric units at production gives you the exact same advantages? :x
I don't think he does.

In the end the metric system is clearly superior because it is actually a system and not a collection of terms people got used to over the years.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on June 07, 2014, 10:20:38 am
OMG AUSTRI  :shock:
cmp posted in YOUR thread  :o
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Christo on June 07, 2014, 11:07:09 am
muricans are not logic
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Post by: Osiris on June 07, 2014, 12:17:06 pm
I WANT DOUBLE DOWN SANDWICH
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Kafein on June 07, 2014, 12:48:17 pm
TIL american engineers can only handle integers.


I admit, I had my suspicions.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Paul on June 07, 2014, 12:53:08 pm
How many cubic inches is a gallon? How much does a gallon of water weight in lbs when it has its highest density(40 °F)?

One liter is 1000 cm^3 and a liter of water weights about 1 kg. Makes shit easy. I pity American engineers with their cripple units. Metric system masterrace. Ordnung muss sein.

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Post by: Christo on June 07, 2014, 12:54:44 pm
Ordnung muss sein.

Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Swaggart on June 07, 2014, 02:43:39 pm
It's funny but some of what Anders says is true. The company I work for makes telecommunications antennas and filters and all of our engineering drawings use imperial measurements (I live in Canada). When I asked why we use this, as mentioned, collection of random measurements I learned that the company was founded by an American 65 years ago and to convert our thousands of drawings into metric is unfeasible. It's particularly funny because our current engineers are mainly Chinese immigrants who are trained to use metric and they absolutely hate with a passion how they have to make measurements in fractions of an inch as opposed to using millimetres.

Tl;dr imperial sucks collosal dick.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Utrakil on June 07, 2014, 03:15:25 pm
I work for a canadian company but we are mainly in europe. as a result half of the nuts and bolts and threads are imperial and the other half is metric.
It is simply disgusting. and then you always find an idiot who forces a metric bolt into an imperial thread.
But not only this. you get your screwgun ready with a phillips bit to dismantle some woodwork and then you suddenly realize they used Robertson screws.
What the fuck!! robertson is crap why are they still in use in NA?
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 07, 2014, 04:38:57 pm
I work for a canadian company but we are mainly in europe. as a result half of the nuts and bolts and threads are imperial and the other half is metric.
It is simply disgusting. and then you always find an idiot who forces a metric bolt into an imperial thread.
But not only this. you get your screwgun ready with a phillips bit to dismantle some woodwork and then you suddenly realize they used Robertson screws.
What the fuck!! robertson is crap why are they still in use in NA?

i wasnt aware of metric screws, only bolts, or maybe im reading this wrong.  Anyways, i have tools for both metric and imperial, of which my car is metric(mitsubishi) yet my truck and other household appliances use imperial.  I prefer the metric tools really, easier to understand that a 18mm is bigger then 19mm, yet telling someone to pass a 3/4 spanner or saying "i need something bigger" turns into a task of me comparing the diameter of the tool rather then looking at the label.  Tell a friend to get you a 13/16 socket without looking at the label and see how puzzled they are.

EDIT:oh, just googled it to see what a robertson screw was, had no idea the square topped had a name, have tools for that too lol.  Do you use the star topped one in EU? idk what in the hell its called.

Double Edit: called a Torx screw, i gues that a universal one, considering its used on pc parts and what not.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 07, 2014, 04:46:26 pm
It's funny but some of what Anders says is true. The company I work for makes telecommunications antennas and filters and all of our engineering drawings use imperial measurements (I live in Canada). When I asked why we use this, as mentioned, collection of random measurements I learned that the company was founded by an American 65 years ago and to convert our thousands of drawings into metric is unfeasible. It's particularly funny because our current engineers are mainly Chinese immigrants who are trained to use metric and they absolutely hate with a passion how they have to make measurements in fractions of an inch as opposed to using millimetres.

Tl;dr imperial sucks collosal dick.
HF antennas/filters? That's voodoo and disgusting in its own right :P
But yea, I can totally understand why they might hate it.

I work for a canadian company but we are mainly in europe. as a result half of the nuts and bolts and threads are imperial and the other half is metric.
It is simply disgusting. and then you always find an idiot who forces a metric bolt into an imperial thread.
But not only this. you get your screwgun ready with a phillips bit to dismantle some woodwork and then you suddenly realize they used Robertson screws.
What the fuck!! robertson is crap why are they still in use in NA?
There are a lot motorbikes using imperial. Well, a lot means mostly Harley and Triumph :D
But you come across imperial screws/threads, they are uncommon in Europe but not unheard of.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Utrakil on June 07, 2014, 04:56:03 pm
i wasnt aware of metric screws, only bolts, or maybe im reading this wrong.  Anyways, i have tools for both metric and imperial, of which my car is metric(mitsubishi) yet my truck and other household appliances use imperial.  I prefer the metric tools really, easier to understand that a 18mm is bigger then 19mm, yet telling someone to pass a 3/4 spanner or saying "i need something bigger" turns into a task of me comparing the diameter of the tool rather then looking at the label.  Tell a friend to get you a 13/16 socket without looking at the label and see how puzzled they are.

EDIT:oh, just googled it to see what a robertson screw was, had no idea the square topped had a name, have tools for that too lol.  Do you use the star topped one in EU? idk what in the hell its called.

Double Edit: called a Torx screw, i gues that a universal one, considering its used on pc parts and what not.
Yep metric is easier to understand  :D :D
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2014, 04:58:28 pm
19 comes after 18 AntiBlitz
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 07, 2014, 05:41:33 pm
19 comes after 18 AntiBlitz

Gauges of needles and piercing utensils go in reverse order, with zero being the largest, save your wit for a better attempt.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Nightmare798 on June 07, 2014, 05:58:46 pm
mad cuz bad (continent)

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Except that USA is mostly mix of great number of states, cultures and people.

And united states have 323, WHILE UK alone, being relatively small in comparsion has 117 ALONE, followed closely by germany and france.

Try to compare a state with greatest number of nobel prizes in US and a state with greatest number of nobel prizes on one state in EU.

And honestly now, just because your ancestors have invaded a land of great wealth and murdered and enslaved its population, thus having far greater ammount of resources does not mean you are any more clever or batter than the rest of the world.

EDIT: And yeah, there would be no america as we know it today without europe, do not forget that

Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Turkhammer on June 07, 2014, 05:59:54 pm
How many cubic inches is a gallon? How much does a gallon of water weight in lbs when it has its highest density(40 °F)?

One liter is 1000 cm^3 and a liter of water weights about 1 kg. Makes shit easy. I pity American engineers with their cripple units. Metric system masterrace. Ordnung muss sein.

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And you can't even unfuck Crpg with the mighty metric system.  I pity you.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Turkhammer on June 07, 2014, 06:05:03 pm
TIL american engineers can only handle integers.


I admit, I had my suspicions.

How did they ever reach the moon?  The landing must have been faked after all.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Tibe on June 07, 2014, 07:02:12 pm
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Dude you are just so bad at internet....
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Post by: Nightmare798 on June 07, 2014, 07:38:22 pm
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Dude you are just so bad at internet....

You are the one to talk mate.

Real smooth.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Osiris on June 07, 2014, 07:51:05 pm
Its clearly a troll nightmare :P hence the chicken sandwich and the american footballer and the gun tally ^^
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Nightmare798 on June 07, 2014, 08:06:27 pm
Its clearly a troll nightmare :P hence the chicken sandwich and the american footballer and the gun tally ^^

Thought it was some kind ¨god bless the US master race¨ kind-of-post, my bad.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Turkhammer on June 07, 2014, 08:17:58 pm
Except that USA is mostly mix of great number of states, cultures and people.
Yeah, so?

And united states have 323, WHILE UK alone, being relatively small in comparsion has 117 ALONE, followed closely by germany and france.

Try to compare a state with greatest number of nobel prizes in US and a state with greatest number of nobel prizes on one state in EU.
It's one country, not 50.  Are you trying to say to compare noble prizes won by Californians with those won by Britons?

And honestly now, just because your ancestors have invaded a land of great wealth and murdered and enslaved its population, thus having far greater ammount of resources does not mean you are any more clever or batter than the rest of the world.
You are on thin ice here debate wise.  Name one country in the world where this has not happened.

EDIT: And yeah, there would be no america as we know it today without europe, do not forget that
And yeah, there would be no Europe as we know it today without Africa, do not forget that.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Turkhammer on June 07, 2014, 08:20:07 pm
Its clearly a troll nightmare :P hence the chicken sandwich and the american footballer and the gun tally ^^

Not necessarily.  The sentiment is genuine.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: cmp on June 07, 2014, 08:38:51 pm
Its clearly a troll nightmare :P hence the chicken sandwich and the american footballer and the gun tally ^^

What about the 200kg women? Troll nighmare or american dream?
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Osiris on June 07, 2014, 08:47:34 pm
sorry. I am English thus i weigh people in stone  :lol: would have to convert it to have an image in my mind of how big she would be  :|
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Kalam on June 07, 2014, 08:58:12 pm
I'm not sure why we use it. What's weird is that our military uses both, like crazies.
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Post by: Tibe on June 07, 2014, 09:01:45 pm
Personally the month, day, year triangle pisses me off the most. Why is it like that? Can someone explain?
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 07, 2014, 09:06:04 pm
I'm not sure why we use it. What's weird is that our military uses both, like crazies.
I think airplanes always use feet, don't they? Not sure...

Wonder why they keep imperial values for length, weight and stuff when they use metric for current, voltage, power and a bunch of other "physics".
Would be easier to generalize to metric overall, I guess.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Nightmare798 on June 07, 2014, 09:22:50 pm
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It's one country, not 50.  Are you trying to say to compare noble prizes won by Californians with those won by Britons?

Technically united states is union of 50 separate states. You can not compare union of 50 separate states to one state or country. That is immensely stupid.

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You are on thin ice here debate wise.  Name one country in the world where this has not happened

It could not have happened in every country, otherwise, there would not be any other ones. Try to think for a moment.

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And yeah, there would be no Europe as we know it today without Africa, do not forget that.

Your point? Are we europeans priding ourselves as superior to Africans?





Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: cmp on June 07, 2014, 09:24:48 pm
I think airplanes always use feet, don't they? Not sure...

No (http://www.bazl.admin.ch/experten/regulation/03080/03081/index.html?lang=it&download=NHzLpZeg7t,lnp6I0NTU042l2Z6ln1ah2oZn4Z2qZpnO2Yuq2Z6gpJCDeoB7gGym162epYbg2c_JjKbNoKSn6A--)
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 07, 2014, 09:45:02 pm
Stupid pdf locks, can't c&p... but yea, standard is SI units. Didn't know. Hollywood cinema is bad mmkay.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Mala on June 07, 2014, 09:48:22 pm
...

Your point? Are we europeans priding ourselves as superior to Africans?

i guess the point is that the first hominids came from africa.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Vibe on June 07, 2014, 09:50:57 pm
africa master race, where distance is measured in bananas and heat is measured by hitting yourself in the head with a club
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Post by: Nightmare798 on June 07, 2014, 09:53:52 pm
i guess the point is that the first hominids came from africa.
But that is not what I was talking about.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Mala on June 07, 2014, 10:27:20 pm
are you sure?

...

EDIT: And yeah, there would be no america as we know it today without europe, do not forget that
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Rumblood on June 08, 2014, 04:31:13 am
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This is missing 3 1/2 grams to an eight ball, 7 grams to a sack and 28 grams to an O Z. (street system of measurement) :idea: You could also try to translate this into a system of measuring the potential ass whipping if those weights come up missing, but really it varies according to what you are measuring in addition to how much it weighs.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Kafein on June 08, 2014, 12:20:30 pm
Personally the month, day, year triangle pisses me off the most. Why is it like that? Can someone explain?

The only way it makes sense to me is because it's the order in which days are sometimes described in English. Like "June the eighth, 2014".
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 08, 2014, 09:37:58 pm
2014/06/08 would make most sense...

I name my files at work this way for proper auto-sort by name and date :D
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Post by: Kafein on June 08, 2014, 11:51:19 pm
2014/06/08 would make most sense...

I name my files at work this way for proper auto-sort by name and date :D

Actually the standard way to write dates is 2014-06-08, as specified by ISO 8601
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 08, 2014, 11:57:18 pm
I guess there really  is an ISO for everything...
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Post by: Kafein on June 09, 2014, 12:12:56 am
I guess there really  is an ISO for everything...

Look up ISO 3591
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Mala on June 09, 2014, 12:52:12 am
I guess there really  is an ISO for everything...

actually, you should know this from DIN .
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Joseph Porta on June 10, 2014, 11:38:07 am
mad cuz bad (continent)

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I always found it silly comparing us with all those countries as the US practicly holds as much citizens as all those combined. Bet the nobel prize per number of citizens is relatively way lower though, but hey, from all those braindead rednecks atleast one in a billion is a smartass :D
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Post by: Nightmare798 on June 10, 2014, 04:47:38 pm
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I always found it silly comparing us with all those countries as the US practicly holds as much citizens as all those combined. Bet the nobel prize per number of citizens is relatively way lower though, but hey, from all those braindead rednecks atleast one in a billion is a smartass :D

Plot twist: All those people who won nobel prize in US are European immigrants...
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Post by: Leshma on June 10, 2014, 04:55:42 pm
Majority are jewish.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Oberyn on June 10, 2014, 05:01:25 pm
Plot twist: All those people who won nobel prize in US are European immigrants...

Brain drain don't real, only patriotic feels.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Mala on June 11, 2014, 04:48:03 am
Majority are jewish.
so its a matter of the religion?
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Jarold on June 11, 2014, 05:07:13 am
I wish I grew up on metric but I didn't so now i'm stuck scratching my head when I think about the metric system. Then I just convert and carry on without any more thought.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Turkhammer on June 11, 2014, 10:20:57 pm
I think airplanes always use feet, don't they? Not sure...

Wonder why they keep imperial values for length, weight and stuff when they use metric for current, voltage, power and a bunch of other "physics".
Would be easier to generalize to metric overall, I guess.

Yes in aviation speed and distance is in notated in knots and nautical miles and altitude is in feet.  This is international (ICAO) as well as domestically in the US.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Turkhammer on June 11, 2014, 10:30:53 pm
Technically united states is union of 50 separate states. You can not compare union of 50 separate states to one state or country. That is immensely stupid.

It could not have happened in every country, otherwise, there would not be any other ones. Try to think for a moment.

Your point? Are we europeans priding ourselves as superior to Africans?

Most euro countries were amalgamated from a collection of separate states during their history.  You are immensely stupid not to think so.

Did the US cease to be a country, no, the dominant culture and population changed.  Thererfore it could and did happen in most other countries.  It's not a unique criticism for the USA. 

I'd say that about the same percentage (if not a greater percentage) of Europeans pride themselves in being superior to everyone than Americans that pride themselves in being superior to Europeans.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Kafein on June 11, 2014, 10:39:41 pm
Brain drain don't real, only patriotic feels.

This. So much this. Here in Europe we barely manage to import brains from Africa, while the US grabs the rest.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Rumblood on June 13, 2014, 07:04:57 pm
I wish I grew up on metric but I didn't so now i'm stuck scratching my head when I think about the metric system. Then I just convert and carry on without any more thought.

Metric system isn't hard at all. You've got your base term like meter or gram. The rest of the terms are some positive or negative multiple of 10. Schools spend too much time trying to get you to learn them all. All you need to know is milli (1/1000), centi(1/100), and kilo(1000) mostly.
What is hard is conceptualizing those values when you grew up with feet and pounds.  :lol: What the hell is 30 centimeters? Its a foot, but if it isn't something nice and even like that, you are back to doing a conversion in your head.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Oberyn on June 25, 2014, 01:05:13 am
I always found it silly comparing us with all those countries as the US practicly holds as much citizens as all those combined. Bet the nobel prize per number of citizens is relatively way lower though, but hey, from all those braindead rednecks atleast one in a billion is a smartass :D

That's because if you compare apples to apples in terms of numbers, i.e whole of EU vs US, the only area where the US is superior is in military spending and leeching talented people from developped and developping countries. Don't even get me started on HDI. All the excuses about how it's so obviously different for the US because it's a giant country of 300 million people suddenly don't apply when you compare it to an area of 500+ million people though, because reasons. EU might have it's Greeces and Portugals, but I'd take those over some decrepit southern or central US state any day of the week. Ironically enough it's always those states that spend vastly more federal money than they bring in who are always touting state rights and independence, Texas being the notable exception, mostly because of it's ginormous arms and oil industry. Although tbf Texas is also a center for other industrial goods and services.
Title: Re: Murica, y u do dis?
Post by: Molly on June 25, 2014, 09:14:04 am
[...]Don't even get me started on HDI. All the excuses about how it's so obviously different for the US because it's a giant country of 300 million people suddenly don't apply when you compare it to an area of 500+ million people though, because reasons.[...]
Not to mention the language barrier added to the EU.