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Title: New language
Post by: Panos_ on February 25, 2014, 10:35:47 pm
So, I`m thinking to start learning a second foreign language apart of English

I`m caught between French, Chinese, German and Russian


I was thinking to go for French now, since they`re somewhat identical to English

Any thoughts from you guys??
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Prinz_Karl on February 25, 2014, 10:43:21 pm
Of course the most difficult language for you to learn must be chinese, I don't think you will make much success there. Considering german I would say there's many simililarities with english, even more then to french vocabulary wise, but french has an easier grammar in my opinion. I can't help you with russian, even though it seems not harder than german or french, but I don't speak russian so.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Panos_ on February 25, 2014, 10:49:08 pm
I believe the same about chinese, but IMO I have to give it a shot, if not now, mose definetly in the future.

The cyrilic alphabet was taken from the Greek alphabet, so it has many similarities with the Greek one, so it might be easier for me?
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Torben on February 25, 2014, 10:49:52 pm
Is there any impulse your future career might give to your decision?  If not,  I would choose upon the culture that interests you most/ the country you would most likely like to visit a few times in future.

I would probably go with russian cause it sounds so fucking awesome  :mrgreen:


also:  If learning a language,  I would join a clan of that language.  So who knows,  in short time you might be OdE_Panos? : )

Title: Re: New language
Post by: Xant on February 25, 2014, 10:51:35 pm
Spanish or Chinese.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Panos_ on February 25, 2014, 10:54:40 pm
Quote from: Torben on February 25, 2014, 10:49:52 pm
Is there any impulse your future career might give to your decision?  If not,  I would choose upon the culture that interests you most/ the country you would most likely like to visit a few times in future.

I would probably go with russian cause it sounds so fucking awesome  :mrgreen:


also:  If learning a language,  I would join a clan of that language.  So who knows,  in short time you might be OdE_Panos? : )

Nope, English is enough for what I`m studying, but still, you never know how life brings things  (possible migration) , so I have to be ready for everything.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Clockworkkiller on February 25, 2014, 11:12:36 pm
Learn to speak American
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Latvian on February 25, 2014, 11:14:04 pm
Go for latvian, we are small nation but with great hockey team :)
Title: Re: New language
Post by: darmaster on February 25, 2014, 11:35:08 pm
Spanish or French; first is the most spoken language (as first language, after Chinese) second is considered the international language. Par excellence. Ohh lala. German in alternative. Don't consider Chinese, we from western nations have too many difficulties in that, same goes for Russian (also Russia is bad place). 4th alternative would be Italian, best language in the world (you know I'm not a nationalist but italian is beautiful to me)



For hasty my old friends skip to 7:05
Title: Re: New language
Post by: IR_Kuoin on February 25, 2014, 11:39:29 pm
Russian can come in handy when throwing insults
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Xant on February 25, 2014, 11:42:29 pm
Quote from: darmaster on February 25, 2014, 11:35:08 pm
Spanish or French; first is the most spoken language (as first language, after Chinese) second is the considered the international language

No, that's English...
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Strudog on February 25, 2014, 11:52:14 pm
Quote from: Panos_the_Bear on February 25, 2014, 10:35:47 pm
So, I`m thinking to start learning a second foreign language apart of English

I`m caught between French, Chinese, German and Russian


I was thinking to go for French now, since they`re somewhat identical to English

Any thoughts from you guys??

Maybe learn English properly first?

Just joking, if you are looking for the most use, i would go chinese, I'm sure it will become invaluable in years to come, i was thinking of learning it.

Maybe we could have group sessions in CHINA C-rpg_1
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Panos_ on February 25, 2014, 11:57:00 pm
from english*  :(
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Kafein on February 26, 2014, 12:00:18 am
New alphabets are hard.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on February 26, 2014, 12:05:28 am
Well, in time German is like to be the new world language anyway. We are currently taking over the EU.. you'll see.

Anyway, I'd myself either go for Spanish or French. I already had 4 years of French in school so I know the basics, it's not that difficult to learn if you really want it and do it properly (ie. speaking with other native French).

However I think German is really the easiest language to learn ever! Ask DKG!!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Smithy on February 26, 2014, 12:07:40 am
German, French or Russian.  Like previously stated, whichever culture you're more interested in, or whichever place you think you may visit several times, or whichever language you think sounds best. 

I'm currently learning German, and when I'm done in going to work on French or Russian.  Probably Russian because:  Водка!   :D
Title: Re: New language
Post by: darmaster on February 26, 2014, 12:09:16 am
Quote from: Xant on February 25, 2014, 11:42:29 pm
No, that's English...


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language

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Approximately 406 million people speak Spanish as a native language, making it second only to Mandarin in terms of its number of native speakers worldwide.


I know source is caca but it's English Wikipedia
Title: Re: New language
Post by: zagibu on February 26, 2014, 12:16:09 am
Spanish or French would be best in terms of effort needed/possible use you get out of them, I think. If you speak English, Spanish and French, you are pretty much set for a very large part of the world.

In your case, though, German might be best, to beg more efficiently for Euros ("Gib mir Geld, du Schweinehund, ich verrecke sonst hier!"). Although French could also help, since EU is mostly a German-French alliance with some bandwagoners.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Panos_ on February 26, 2014, 12:21:42 am
Quote from: zagibu on February 26, 2014, 12:16:09 am
In your case, though, German might be best, to beg more efficiently for Euros ("Gib mir Geld, du Schweinehund, ich verrecke sonst hier!"). Although French could also help, since EU is mostly a German-French alliance with some bandwagoners.


Zagibu, y u do dis?  :cry:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: darmaster on February 26, 2014, 12:28:32 am
You could also learn Portuguese (for Brazil) or Indian (for Brazil); they're growing fucking ridiculously. Or go with Japanese if you want an "assurance", panos san
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on February 26, 2014, 12:30:17 am
Why japanese and not chinese?..
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Osiris on February 26, 2014, 12:32:48 am
panos could learn Japanese and communicate with all the weeaboo anime lovers :P
Title: Re: New language
Post by: darmaster on February 26, 2014, 12:38:45 am
Quote from: Miwiw on February 26, 2014, 12:30:17 am
Why japanese and not chinese?..

Because I was speaking of languages on which he shouldn't spend his time. I could say the same for chinese bu it's still more worthy than these. (Speaking of indian and chinese not Portuguese)
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Mala on February 26, 2014, 12:57:58 am
if german would not be my native language, then i would not learn it. there is a saying "every rule has an exception" and this is no joke.

spanish was quite nice, basic grammar was not that hard and it has some ties with english as well.

russian, well like every slavic language it has a lot of s sounds, ohh and there are six grammatical cases (well for polish or croatian you have seven).

or you could try dutch, it is a bit closer to english  than german.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Xant on February 26, 2014, 01:05:13 am
Quote from: darmaster on February 26, 2014, 12:09:16 am

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language


I know source is caca but it's English Wikipedia

I was talking about French.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: darmaster on February 26, 2014, 01:09:51 am
Quote from: Xant on February 26, 2014, 01:05:13 am
I was talking about French.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language

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It is an official language of all United Nations agencies and a large number of international organizations.

If i remember correctly same goes for Olympics, first French language then the rest.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on February 26, 2014, 02:16:16 pm
Quote from: Mala on February 26, 2014, 12:57:58 am
or you could try dutch, it is a bit closer to english  than german.

Dutch! Do German first, then Dutch and you'll laugh a lot!!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Bulzur on February 26, 2014, 02:59:21 pm
Spanish is overrated. I really regret having chosen that language over german during my studies.

But that's maybe because i'm an EU guy, who wants to stay in Europe. And german cars good cars.


French ? Why not. But it's clearly not what it used to be. Nobody really cares about french anymore, and now all our companies want people with fluent english. A lot of our softwares are in english anyway, even when developped in France. So... i don't really see how it could be usefull.

Except for throwing insults at Olwen. Wich would be a good point.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Boerenlater on February 26, 2014, 03:03:25 pm
Latin.
You could become a pedophile priest in the Vatican!
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Patoson on February 26, 2014, 03:22:41 pm
Panos, why the hesitation?
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Taconish for the win!
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Surhay on February 26, 2014, 03:27:43 pm
How about turkish ? :D
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Franke on February 26, 2014, 03:41:23 pm
I cannot judge on Russian, if you think the similarities between Greek and Kyrillic alphabet will give you an advantage, why not?

Chinese seems pretty hard to learn from my point of view, you could have problems to find native speakers to talk to, too.

I'd recommend you French over German, I've learned it for 4 years in school (if just I had not been so lazy  :cry:), I think it's a beautiful language and the grammar is definitely easier than German grammar.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Ikarus on February 26, 2014, 03:50:06 pm
french seems to be the easiest from the four languages you suggested
as the people say: learn the language of the country you prefer the most

chinese, french, german and russian are well spread languages so they´re all fine

 :!: also keep in mind that you´ll have to keep practicing the language, so think about how you´re going to train it and keep your skills fresh. Maybe make some visits in a country where the language is spoken? Or watch some news in that language? Articles, shows, teamspeak, ...?
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Osiris on February 26, 2014, 04:01:29 pm
learn turkish so you can insult your fellow kebabs in their native tongue
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Prpavi on February 26, 2014, 04:03:20 pm
Chinese, you can pick a job and paycheck with that here, think it's the same in Greece
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Molly on February 26, 2014, 04:46:42 pm
Quote from: Prpavi on February 26, 2014, 04:03:20 pm
Chinese, you can pick a job and paycheck with that here, think it's the same in Greece
It used to be the same here but like 5 years ago. By now most companies here (I have professional contacts to a few which deal with Chinese companies apart from my own experiences) actually expect the Chinese to being able to communicate in English. Mostly it ends with really perfect business English letters/emails but with hardly encryptable spoken English. Nonetheless, it's getting there. So at least the scientific and electronics world sticks to English it seems. Could imagine the same goes for IT.

I'd actually suggest to get those international Oxford certificates you can do for business English. They are always worth a bit more money here in Germany.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Algarn on February 26, 2014, 04:51:13 pm
French is hard, but as a lot of common points with other latin languages, like spanish, italian, you can learn others if you know some french. Also, as you said, french got a lot of common words with english, but it also got "faux amis", words that are written exactly the same way, but with totally different meanings.

Ex : Pub means advertising in french. (Publicité)

There are a lot of other examples, but this is a good one to say you that french is a hard language, even without declinations of words like in german.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Prinz_Karl on February 26, 2014, 04:55:31 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on February 26, 2014, 02:16:16 pm
Dutch! Do German first, then Dutch and you'll laugh a lot!!  :mrgreen:

Only if you have reached a level of perfection as well as knowing all dialects and their connotations and you can differentiate what's sounding odd and what not.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Tibe on February 26, 2014, 05:02:38 pm
Spanish, German or Russian. In my case anyway French is pretty useless from this side of the world I am inhabited, or where id like to be. Dont know how is it in your case. Some people took spanish as voluntary course in my last school. Didnt really seem all that hard.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Son Of Odin on February 26, 2014, 05:11:49 pm
Learn Norwegian.

Move to Norway.

Collect sweet oil monies and play in a true blackmetal band when you're not busy burning churches or admiring the view :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Torost on February 26, 2014, 05:22:09 pm
German is a very logical language.
It might come in handy when german banks take possession of all greek infrastructure in the near future.

and bonus: you can then read "mein kampf" in the original language .. a must for any golden dawn fan.

Serious: Instead of an new language, maybe learn some advanced english?
Way more useful than knowing a little of a random third language imo.

Title: Re: New language
Post by: Fredom on February 26, 2014, 05:45:21 pm
Yo Panos buddy, I like your idea of learing a new language. If I would be at your place, I would go for Russian (really interesting language and you can train with SB's :D) or German ( It's a really 'hard' language to learn but you got me, I can help you :P) or french (easier grammar than German but  ...) But never, never ever go for chinese if you are european(ut).
Greetings and gl with your choice buddy
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on February 26, 2014, 05:49:44 pm
German.
Germany and Austria are better countries than France when it comes to immigration
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Thomek on February 26, 2014, 06:08:57 pm
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Title: Re: New language
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on February 26, 2014, 06:11:40 pm
Ехал Грека через реку,
Видит Грека — в реке рак.
Сунул Грека руку в реку,
Рак за руку Греку — цап!

LEAЯN RUSSИAN
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Leesin on February 26, 2014, 06:14:42 pm
You should learn French, so you can insult them in their own language.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Latvian on February 26, 2014, 06:40:02 pm
why not turkish?
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Molly on February 26, 2014, 07:49:49 pm
Quote from: Leesin on February 26, 2014, 06:14:42 pm
You should learn French, so you can insult them in their own language.
Hands down, best suggestion yet.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: the real god emperor on February 26, 2014, 08:07:10 pm
Quote from: Latvian on February 26, 2014, 06:40:02 pm
why not turkish?

50k per session <<<

IMO Spanish is handy and a nice language, try it! Scandinavian languages are easy as well , from what I saw. I wouldn't try Chinese.If you want to learn an Asian language, Japanese is cool :P
Otherwise I can't think anything else except suggesting learning Turkish.
Biz Türkler fakir Yunanlıları severiz.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Boerenlater on February 26, 2014, 08:45:18 pm
Just on a serious note; pick a language that is closely related to yours.
Dunno what close to Greek is.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: zagibu on February 26, 2014, 08:54:14 pm
Quote from: Boerenlater on February 26, 2014, 08:45:18 pm
Just on a serious note; pick a language that is closely related to yours.
Dunno what close to Greek is.

Nothing. Hellenic is a unique language family with no close relatives.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Macropus on February 26, 2014, 09:19:25 pm
Quote from: zagibu on February 26, 2014, 08:54:14 pm
Nothing. Hellenic is a unique language family with no close relatives.
Having no relatives sounds so sad...   :cry:
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Title: Re: New language
Post by: Corwin on February 26, 2014, 09:48:06 pm
Depends. I would consider tourists from countries frequently coming to Greece and size of their breasts. Of the top of my head, I'd go with Swedish.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Torben on February 26, 2014, 10:18:55 pm
Quote from: Corwin on February 26, 2014, 09:48:06 pm
Depends. I would consider tourists from countries frequently coming to Greece and size of their breasts. Of the top of my head, I'd go with Swedish.

omg that,  so much win.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Radament on February 26, 2014, 11:21:34 pm
Pft Panos , these languages are too mainstream , here's one that you could use in some situation like child kidnapping or abduction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_language)


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no need to thank me  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Kafein on February 27, 2014, 12:20:24 am
I'd say the most useful language to learn if you travel a lot after English would be Spanish. You're set for half a continent, and you can get by with Spanish in Brazil. Much better than with English anyway.

As for asian languages, Korean is probably the easiest of the big ones. But in any case learning to speak Mandarin, Cantonese or Japanese isn't that hard. The really hard part is reading and writing.

French has a lot of status but unless you plan to enlist as a mercenary in Africa, it has dubious international relevancy.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Corsair831 on February 27, 2014, 03:47:42 pm
aprender español, es el mejor lenguaje hecho :D

www.duolingo.com
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Overdriven on February 27, 2014, 03:52:01 pm
Learn English, Spanish, Hindi, Mandarin and Arabic.

Conquer the world (almost).
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Son Of Odin on February 27, 2014, 04:02:16 pm
Quote from: Overdriven on February 27, 2014, 03:52:01 pm
Learn English, Spanish, Hindi, Mandarin and Arabic.

Conquer the world (almost).
Or just learn Finnish and join the interned gods to create the best dolan memes and spudro spädres in the world :D
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Macropus on February 27, 2014, 09:34:59 pm
On a serious note, I'd suggest Russian. Not because it's such a great language, just it will allow you to understand what people say in the videos about Russia, like this one:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Zhyang on February 27, 2014, 09:37:37 pm
whats that video about?
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Macropus on February 27, 2014, 09:51:01 pm
Three guys tried to scare and racket a driver, telling him to go with them which he declined and insisted on solving everything right there. Seeing as they will not get anything from it, "gopnik" pierced his bus and left.

The distinctive speech of the main gopnik (the one with the knife and gun) is what makes this video great.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on February 27, 2014, 10:08:43 pm
That's like already a reason not learn russian and just avoid that country. :O
Title: Re: New language
Post by: LordBerenger on February 28, 2014, 01:23:18 pm
Learn 2 speak the language of the Conquistadors
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Wiltzu on February 28, 2014, 05:17:09 pm
Finnish, the best language!

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Title: Re: New language
Post by: Panos_ on February 28, 2014, 05:20:02 pm
But I love Winnland!

I want to listen to metal everyday everywhere  :(


What about Swedish or Norwegian??
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Wiltzu on February 28, 2014, 05:31:18 pm
Quote from: Panos_the_Bear on February 28, 2014, 05:20:02 pm
But I love Winnland!

I want to listen to metal everyday everywhere  :(


What about Swedish or Norwegian??

Swedish is ok as long as you pronounce it properly (the finnish way!). But honestly the way how actual swedes pronounce it make it sound, well gay. It is extremely beautiful language when a girl speaks it though.
This is how we in Finland joke about speaking swedish/norwegian/danish:
Swedish = Cut your balls and start speaking swedish
Norwegian = Grow other one back and start speaking swedish
Danish = Put two hot potatoes in your throat and start speaking swedish
Title: Re: New language
Post by: zagibu on February 28, 2014, 05:31:39 pm
They are nothing like Finnish. Finnish is in an own group with Hungarian. They form the Finno-Hungarian language group. Swedish and Norwegian are just Norse languages, so from Germanic descendant.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: the real god emperor on February 28, 2014, 05:38:04 pm
Quote from: Panos_the_Bear on February 28, 2014, 05:20:02 pm

What about Swedish or Norwegian??

Swedish,Norwegian and Danish re not seeming so different from German.I can understand some things they speak of even if I don't have a clue about the language.So I think they re easy to practice.

Are you really thinking to learn Russian or Asian Languages? You already know 2 alphabets, pick something easier :D

Title: Re: New language
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 01, 2014, 11:55:22 pm
Better to learn German tbh, only 5.09 mill Norwegians and learning Swedish is just gay
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Boerenlater on March 02, 2014, 01:09:21 pm
Quote from: Wiltzu on February 28, 2014, 05:17:09 pm
Finnish, the best language!

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Please don't tell me this is real.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Wiltzu on March 02, 2014, 01:12:59 pm
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 02, 2014, 01:09:21 pm
Please don't tell me this is real.

It is  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Boerenlater on March 02, 2014, 01:14:36 pm
Quote from: IR_Kuoin on March 01, 2014, 11:55:22 pm
Better to learn German tbh, only 5.09 mill Norwegians and learning Swedish is just gay
And with a German background it isn't that hard anymore to pick up Norse or Swedish.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 02:11:26 pm
German: Der Mond strahlt heute hell.
Dutch: De maan schijnt helder vandaag
English: The moon shines bright today
French: La lune brille aujourd'hui
Swedish: Månen lyser starkt i dag
Norwegian: Månen skinner i dag
Danish: Månen skinner lyse dag
Finnish: Kuu loistaa kirkkaana tänään

Translated by google. Guess it's easy to see why you shouldn't learn finnish right?  :lol:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Macropus on March 02, 2014, 04:48:07 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 02:11:26 pm
Finnish: Kuu loistaa kirkkaana tänään
Damn, Finns like double vowels a lot!  :o
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Prinz_Karl on March 02, 2014, 05:06:06 pm
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 02, 2014, 01:09:21 pm
Please don't tell me this is real.

It's real but it's looking more frightening than it is. Finnish is a language where single words are often a combination of several affixes, meaning that if we say "in my houses", in finnish it's only one word, taloissani (in+my+houses). So if you get the idea you can imagine why the declension off one word can be so complex and why there are so many combinations of one word, which also exists in every language though, just not as one word. Anyway, finnish has 16 different cases so this is indeed difficult.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Christo on March 02, 2014, 05:07:49 pm
Heck that seems a lot harder than hungarian.

Not like our language is very easy but still. o.O
Title: Re: New language
Post by: LordBerenger on March 02, 2014, 06:26:19 pm
Quote from: IR_Kuoin on March 01, 2014, 11:55:22 pm
Better to learn German tbh, only 5.09 mill Norwegians and learning Swedish is just gay

Better to learn Chinese (when China conquers world with derrr mighty rice money) or Arabic (if Arabs conquer Europe with Islam)
Title: Re: New language
Post by: zagibu on March 02, 2014, 11:38:16 pm
Quote from: LordBerenger on March 02, 2014, 06:26:19 pm
Better to learn Chinese (when China conquers world with derrr mighty rice money) or Arabic (if Arabs conquer Europe with Islam)

What money? China mostly has dollars, which will go poof soon. And Arabs are much too lazy to conquer anything. If they take over Europe, it's simply because we let them.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: F i n on March 02, 2014, 11:48:51 pm
German ofc. - so you can finally replace "Fin u my old friendit" with "Fin du Schwuchtel."
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on March 03, 2014, 12:19:19 am
Quote from: zagibu on March 02, 2014, 11:38:16 pm
If they take over Europe, it's simply because we let them.

And the problem is, that most let them do their shit... like saying Islam was part of Europe, or letting Turkey enter the EU (if that ever happens).
The only good thing was what Switzerland did, and even their half of the population didnt like the decision at all.
Anyway, I would learn some European language after all. Probably not that high chance to leave this continent at all if it's about work only.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 03, 2014, 12:27:57 am
Quote from: Miwiw on March 03, 2014, 12:19:19 am
And the problem is, that most let them do their shit... like saying Islam was part of Europe, or letting Turkey enter the EU (if that ever happens).
The only good thing was what Switzerland did, and even their half of the population didnt like the decision at all.
Anyway, I would learn some European language after all. Probably not that high chance to leave this continent at all if it's about work only.

oh no you just didn't take that bait :shock:.

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Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on March 03, 2014, 12:28:31 am
Quote from: Son Of Odin on March 03, 2014, 12:27:57 am
oh no you just didn't take that bait :shock:.

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You took it.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 03, 2014, 12:30:50 am
Quote from: Miwiw on March 03, 2014, 12:28:31 am
You took it.

No I didn't :D.

Pls continue on language, not immigration :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Boerenlater on March 03, 2014, 09:31:18 am
Quote from: Miwiw on March 03, 2014, 12:19:19 am
And the problem is, that most let them do their shit... like saying Islam was part of Europe, or letting Turkey enter the EU (if that ever happens).
The only good thing was what Switzerland did, and even their half of the population didnt like the decision at all.
Anyway, I would learn some European language after all. Probably not that high chance to leave this continent at all if it's about work only.
inb4 the Norwegian templar guy
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Cicero on March 06, 2014, 02:10:13 pm
Quote from: Panos_the_Bear on February 25, 2014, 10:35:47 pm
So, I`m thinking to start learning a second foreign language apart of English

I`m caught between French, Chinese, German and Russian


I was thinking to go for French now, since they`re somewhat identical to English

Any thoughts from you guys??
Ofcourse german

So u can beg in their own language to postpone your debts.It will be more accurate and emotional
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Panos_ on March 06, 2014, 02:13:21 pm
Quote from: Cicero on March 06, 2014, 02:10:13 pm
Ofcourse german

So u can beg in their own language to postpone your debts.It will be more accurate and emotional

Funny, coming from a guy who`s country men have invaded Germany . Even funnier because the Turks living in Germany, do nothing all day long, living on wealthfare and drug trafficking
Title: Re: New language
Post by: [ptx] on March 06, 2014, 02:24:39 pm
Well, to be purely practical, learning russian will let you get on throughout most of eastern europe, not just because a lot of locals will understand russian, but you might be able to at least partially understand the local languages as well, since the slavic languages tend to be very similar. This extends even to non-cyrillic slavic countries.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Cicero on March 06, 2014, 04:13:19 pm
Quote from: Panos_the_Bear on March 06, 2014, 02:13:21 pm
Funny, coming from a guy who`s country men have invaded Germany . Even funnier because the Turks living in Germany, do nothing all day long, living on wealthfare and drug trafficking
Couldnt agree more panos , u need to know that all the people that live in Turkey hates Turks that live in Germany.They are not even turkish ,

Bad point panos , bad.

Althought we sent Turks to Germany for the development of German economy :) See the difference ?
Title: Re: New language
Post by: darmaster on March 06, 2014, 04:32:31 pm
Quote from: Panos_the_Bear on March 06, 2014, 02:13:21 pm
Funny, coming from a guy who`s country men have invaded Germany . Even funnier because the Turks living in Germany, do nothing all day long, living on wealthfare and drug trafficking

?

the fact is that germany with turks "parasites" is the first european power, i wonder if the same would happen if there were greeks instead of turks there  :twisted:

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Title: Re: New language
Post by: Torben on March 06, 2014, 05:46:00 pm
you have scum in any ethnic group,  just like you have well educated intellectual elite in every ethnical group in germany.  racial hate is just the easy way to blind oneself instead of actually solving problems.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Fredom on March 06, 2014, 08:32:05 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 02:11:26 pm
German: Der Mond strahlt heute hell.
Dutch: De maan schijnt helder vandaag
English: The moon shines bright today
French: La lune brille aujourd'hui
Swedish: Månen lyser starkt i dag
Norwegian: Månen skinner i dag
Danish: Månen skinner lyse dag
Finnish: Kuu loistaa kirkkaana tänään

Translated by google. Guess it's easy to see why you shouldn't learn finnish right?  :lol:
Where's kurdish?!
Title: Re: New language
Post by: the real god emperor on March 06, 2014, 09:06:44 pm
Quote from: Fredom on March 06, 2014, 08:32:05 pm
Where's kurdish?!

Heyv va şev xweşika biriqin. 
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Prinz_Karl on March 07, 2014, 12:17:24 am
Stereotypes have true essence though, it's no concerning everyone of a cultural group but often the majority. Take for example Romas, there are exceptions and some well educated individuals but at least 90% of them are fraudulent uneducated people who use every niche in a country to live on the cost of others, scamming old people or exploiting the welfare state, and by doing this feeling no remorse because of their disrespect of other cultures. I feel sorry for the children because they grew up in this rotten culture. But anyway you can't underestimate stereotypes.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: darmaster on March 07, 2014, 12:43:39 am
Quote from: Prinz_Karl on March 07, 2014, 12:17:24 am
Stereotypes have true essence though, it's no concerning everyone of a cultural group but often the majority. Take for example Romas, there are exceptions and some well educated individuals but at least 90% of them are fraudulent uneducated people who use every niche in a country to live on the cost of others, scamming old people or exploiting the welfare state, and by doing this feeling no remorse because of their disrespect of other cultures. I feel sorry for the children because they grew up in this rotten culture. But anyway you can't underestimate stereotypes.

Totally agree with that, but i hope people remember it depends from different cultures, and not race (or ethnicity). The way you grow up is what affects your mind the most, not the size of your colour of your skin.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Kafein on March 07, 2014, 02:08:52 am
Quote from: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 02:11:26 pm
German: Der Mond strahlt heute hell.
Dutch: De maan schijnt helder vandaag
English: The moon shines bright today
French: La lune brille aujourd'hui
Swedish: Månen lyser starkt i dag
Norwegian: Månen skinner i dag
Danish: Månen skinner lyse dag
Finnish: Kuu loistaa kirkkaana tänään

Translated by google. Guess it's easy to see why you shouldn't learn finnish right?  :lol:

Actually the french version is kinda fucked up too

Quote from: Prinz_Karl on March 07, 2014, 12:17:24 am
Stereotypes have true essence though, it's no concerning everyone of a cultural group but often the majority. Take for example Romas, there are exceptions and some well educated individuals but at least 90% of them are fraudulent uneducated people who use every niche in a country to live on the cost of others, scamming old people or exploiting the welfare state, and by doing this feeling no remorse because of their disrespect of other cultures. I feel sorry for the children because they grew up in this rotten culture. But anyway you can't underestimate stereotypes.

You can't underestimate populism either.

Not that I would personally trust people living in trailer parks, mind you. The point is that they don't deserve negative or positive special treatment.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on March 07, 2014, 02:38:10 pm
Quote from: Fredom on March 06, 2014, 08:32:05 pm
Where's kurdish?!

Who cares about that? I'd personally never learn any non-european language. Asian might be another thing though because they at least offer a future.

Quote from: Kafein on March 07, 2014, 02:08:52 am
Actually the french version is kinda fucked up too
In what way?^^
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Kafein on March 07, 2014, 03:20:53 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 07, 2014, 02:38:10 pm
In what way?^^

Not a lot of striking similarities with germanic languages:

lune = mond, maan, moon, manen
aujourd'hui = today, vandag, dag, idag
brille = shines, skinner, schijnt

about "aujourd'hui" it's not even split like "aujourd" = "to" and "hui" = "day"
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Boerenlater on March 07, 2014, 03:27:51 pm
Quote from: Kafein on March 07, 2014, 03:20:53 pm
Not a lot of striking similarities with germanic languages:

lune = mond, maan, moon, manen
aujourd'hui = today, vandag, dag, idag
brille = shines, skinner, schijnt

about "aujourd'hui" it's not even split like "aujourd" = "to" and "hui" = "day"
Maybe because French isn't a germanic language??
Make the same list and now with French, Spanish, Portugese, Latin, Italian and Romanian.
Title: Re: New language
Post by: Miwiw on March 07, 2014, 03:50:18 pm
Quote from: Boerenlater on March 07, 2014, 03:27:51 pm
Maybe because French isn't a germanic language??
Make the same list and now with French, Spanish, Portugese, Latin, Italian and Romanian.

I guess Kafein meant in that short "list" I made, by comparing German to Dutch, to English, to French, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Finnish.
And in that list Finnish and French don't really fit. He probably means that.

Title: Re: New language
Post by: Kafein on March 07, 2014, 11:08:18 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 07, 2014, 03:50:18 pm
I guess Kafein meant in that short "list" I made, by comparing German to Dutch, to English, to French, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Finnish.
And in that list Finnish and French don't really fit. He probably means that.

Exactly.

Of course french would fit in a list of Latin languages, although less so than spanish or sardinian.

Anyway, Finnish is just as alien as hungarian or basque, maybe even less.