This clan will only merc in strat battles but we wont fight for land and engage in politics. Any fief which would be given to us would be still owned by the clan/faction who gave it to us therefor also used by that originating faction. We are not aiming to attack anyone within Strategus, till at a time we would have a substantial amount of members(at least 20), and those would vote with at least 70% to participate in Strategus ... Calradia is safe from any plots out of the cruel and nasty fangs of kinngrimm :twisted: for now. Serously though one thing i didnt miss in my absence is to take care of fucking Strategus all the time. It is a great game in some areas and it is a fucking clusterfuck in other areas. So sry but for me no deal anymore ... fuck strategus :wink:
My axe is yours Kinngrimm.
As you seem to have nothing better to do, attacking 200 naked must be the highlight in your gridlock in the past 8 months.Right. We are helping out Coalition with some troops and as everybody is troop stacking due to inactivity we are doing the same.
Someone tries collecting evidence to make me look bad ^^, i can't see it working. In comparison to the actions of the agressor past or present. As you seem to have nothing better to do, attacking 200 naked must be the highlight in your gridlock in the past 8 months.Welcome to my world kinn :D
@Strudog
What did i do to you? Did i steal your cookies or kill your puppy? I remember back then, you also were spreading propaganda about the 'evil' kinngrimm. Man since you left templar and joined mercs you kind of got a dark site to yourself, try not to look down into the abyss too much while chasing after me, the abyss has this habit to stare back at you.
You have my axe, pick and shield anyway :)good to have you
No plans so far, but with this attack i do have have the first war for the new clan, will see what can be done about it.(click to show/hide)
someone not getting his facts straight.
his clan will only merc in strat battles but we wont fight for land and engage in politics. Any fief which would be given to us would be still owned by the clan/faction who gave it to us therefor also used by that originating faction. We are not aiming to attack anyone within Strategus, till at a time we would have a substantial amount of members(at least 20), and those would vote with at least 70% to participate in Strategus ... Calradia is safe from any plots out of the cruel and nasty fangs of kinngrimm :twisted: for now. Serously though one thing i didnt miss in my absence is to take care of fucking Strategus all the time. It is a great game in some areas and it is a fucking clusterfuck in other areas. So sry but for me no deal anymore ... fuck strategus :wink:
Council of Brodania
To near to our castle! kinn i know u do it on purpose
Looking forward to new drama!incoooooming :mrgreen:
So, what's the point of this thread? A member of the Wolves' Strat faction (UIF) has been attacked by a member of the Brotherhood ("Eastern Block"). Seriously, NA offers more Drama these days (not that I'm really missing EU drama :wink:)The point of this thread is a declaration of war.
The day you enter the strategus map, you accept its rules kinn: no rules :Phey butan don't get all reasonable on me ;)
As much as the Brotherhood pays for their TreacheryWhat exactly did they pay? Gridlock ... Oh right ^^... There are many small clans out there who have done more with less ressoruces, even with only the stolen roughly 7k troops, gear for more then 10k and well you know the castle.
... Declaration of Independance ...... my ars, they had been an independent clan, but then they formed a joined Strat Faction with another Clan, wait who had been the others? I must have forgotten them both already. Within the CFA i did most of the strategic planning, but everyone still was able to say "no" to my suggestions and thereby the overall strategy would change as i didn't go against the explicit wishes of the members. Oh and are they still togther with that other clan? No? What happened? Did they declare themselves independent from the independancy? ... also I TOLD YOU SO
you also pay for having been their sworn enemies.no not really, but i did pay for being their friend, a mistake which will be not repeated with those cursed once
Like strudog said, coming back from a long break doesnt erase all memory of evil and good.I may have overreacted there after all
..., Kingrimm is as evil as ever,...this also can imply, not evil at all, as 'ever' is in this context like 'before' and before i haven't been evil :P
What do they think you are trying to do ?pick one
kinn, I thought you wanted to only merc in strat with your new clan. fighting for land is the devil :'|At first that had been my intention yes, then i ilimited that statment, then my intentions changed and as of now:
dont get pulled in mate.
at war with "Coalition and friends"while i wasnt pleased to see the War with Coallition when i came back,
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I'm at war with the brotherhood ? When did this happen. I thought we made peace after the first war with the Murcs and so far they have not attacked anyone of my faction till now. Also when are you guys planning to come out of your fiefs to fight. After all the last 2 battles wolves vs Coa wolves got owned. Not happy with the 2/3-1 k/d ? We in the north are waiting and we are all hoping you put up more of a fight then the murcs.
just my two cents you of course can hide like little bitches all you want. We will see you in them 10k+ fiefs after that 1/3 rule is removed.
It's spelt Mercs not Murcs :rolleyes:
Good luck Kinn with this war, and good luck to your allies as well!
I'm at war with the brotherhood ? When did this happen. I thought we made peace after the first war with the Murcs and so far they have not attacked anyone of my faction till now.We would like to keep up the neutrality with the Wolve Pack Mercenaries. I wrote in my first post, that this attack was done to get kinngrimm out of the area around Yruma Castle, because it is kinngrimm and not because it is a member of the Wolves Strategus faction. If you, Odysseus and all the other Wolves around, take offence out of this (of course we hope you dont) we cannot do anything against your descisions.
The point of this thread is a declaration of war.And insulting the Brotherhood as shamefully losers of all honor and respect? Get over it...We never asked you about your betrayals or used them against you in the past and maybe in other strategus times, so I expect you to do the same to us now.
I suggested to the perpetrators a possible solution to come clean, by handing over Yruma Castle which is a CFA claim and would then either be held by Wolf Pack Mercenaries, as it makes sence out of a geographic perspectiv or another CFA faction. After the suggestion i felt compelled to include that i took the betrayel to my person rather serious and that reperations to show goodwill and regain some honor, could be seen as a fresh start. I mentioned also along the lines that by noncomplience i would not want to have anything to do with them again. So be it.You, kinngrimm, do not have any claims at the moment as you said yourself several times now. I never heard from another Wolve that they want their castle back. It was pretty obvious that you would liked to have it back, but this happened about 10 months in the past and we did not get a word from any Wolve to give the castle back yet. Now we claim it for ourself as we owned it for a longer time then Wolves did.
There are many small clans out there who have done more with less ressoruces, even with only the stolen roughly 7k troops, gear for more then 10k and well you know the castle.So for stealing 7k troops with (mostly shit) equipment for ~8k and a castle which is not more easy to defend then any of the castles the Wolves own at the moment you want to get a Castle with 27k troops (+3k population) with shiny gear for all of them in reward? This is even more "jewish" (sorry for the word, dont want to sound racist, but I dont know another word to express this so please dont feel offended) then me on the Marketplace...
... my ars, they had been an independent clan, but then they formed a Strat Faction with another Clan. Within the CFA i did most of the strategic planning, but everyone still was able to say "no" to my suggestions and thereby the overall strategy would change as i didn't go against the explicit wishes of the members.
actually, they couldn't bother me less ...Why the Thread then?
pick one
a bunch of clownsAt the moment you are making a clown out of yourself with taking over bad behaviors on the forum.
Hush you :) I can call em w/e I want now. They don't exist here anymore do they :)
Mercs are a crpg clan very much more active than your own and clearly does exist. apostates was a strat faction that lost the war and has one castle left. Mercenaries are also now a strat faction that has one city. There is a difference between strat and crpg perhaps learn it and your taunts can be directed at the right people ^^ I see you can tell the difference between Fallen/HRE and Coalition yet are unable to do so with mercs deserters and apostates. it baffles me :P
I remember you backstabbing the coalition yourself a while back. Basically it's not coalition vs wolves/ fenris, but probably something more like rogue vs dirty traitor kinngrimm. Sucks!i waited for this so now again for a 100th time.
Welcome back.:D thanks man and congratz to Fisdnar. After a too long exile you have finnally returned to your rightful heritage.
I remember you backstabbing the coalition yourself a while back.
So i went there and heared again the refrain, but this time with more force and more voices at the same time, besides those i mentioned befor, there also had been Fallen and Nords in ts. Nords came a bit later, as the others first needed to work me. After a while i got upset, but kept my cool. I told them, "i couldnt just leave my alliance partner alone"; "but perhaps templars would wanna join in, if i may colect alpha and ask him about that too". Silcene .. .then i believe Ujin said "that would be even better"(remember Ujin always ranting about numbers ...)This bit is the only thing I find really relevant. So to summarize the course of events:
Anyhow, i went back to my ts and chatted with alpha in steam and he came by and we taked, first he was like "wtf"
then he became aware that i was really pissed at those bastards and he figured, "we are not doing that for real" ... silence ... gigling like little kids ... "nope we wont". There the ruse was born.
You betrayed The Wolves by not attacking the Apostates when they broke alliance and attacked us the first time.
Then to top it all off when peace was forced on the opposing parties you say that you'l attack whoever breaks the peace this time.
Then you betray the Apostates by letting them get wiped.
You people needed the Wolves (CFA?), The Apostates, yourselves and the Temps to beat the GO who were semi active. By throwing away your "friends" (we'l call it that) you forced a defensive war on your selves that you will lose when the 1/3d rule is removed.
(I wonder how good your grinding troops will go when you're getting hit 10x a day)
I made this small for your small attention spans.
You betrayed The Wolves by not attacking the Apostates when they broke alliance and attacked us the first time.
How can we betray the Wolves when we never had an alliance with them?
Then to top it all off when peace was forced on the opposing parties you say that you'l attack whoever breaks the peace this time.
Then you betray the Apostates by letting them get wiped.
These two points join together. Looks like you forgot that we did send armies to the north to help the Apostates.
You people needed the Wolves (CFA?), The Apostates, yourselves and the Temps to beat the GO who were semi active. By throwing away your "friends" (we'l call it that) you forced a defensive war on your selves that you will lose when the 1/3d rule is removed.
(I wonder how good your grinding troops will go when you're getting hit 10x a day)
This is just lies, there's really no need for me to answer this. I direct to the previous threads about these subjects. Read them and change your points, because they are nothing but baseless statements, (hopefully) born from ignorance.
I made this small for your small attention spans.
I wanted to a) show causalities & timelines b) perspectives
Kinngrimm, nobody asked for your novel about strategus :D
The point gets lost in this massive wall of text.That maybe so, still i tried to structure as good as possible.
... How can there be as much as a simple doubt in this matter?
I respect you as a player, and I respect your intelligence RamsesKinngrimm, but I certainly don't respect this unhinged disregard for other people. I'm well aware its a game, and I'm not taking things too seriously,
but the amount of constant arrogance you and your allies put into pressuring me to
leave "all the worthless smaller clans" behind. This was always the tenor from the big clans you know.
It started that way in strat 2.0 when i looked for cooperations and was small clan myself. And Risen, Mercs, Byzantium or Fallen all acted as bigshots not on eye level or worse treated me like a worthless peace of shit.
And now to the real hypocrisy: You even have the balls to be mad about others being traitors to you! You accuse the Brotherhood of being "Cowardly backstabbers" when you've done the exact same thing to at least as big a scale. As I've mentioned before, you're an intelligent man, so I am simply baffled that you allow yourself this false virtue.
So please, enlighten me on this matter (And only this).
So please, enlighten me on this matter (And only this).Backstab after 7 months VS Ruse of 2 weeks
[...] this whole forum vomiting can end now.Please, don't, sooo much drama... it's awesome. Even addictive. Kinngrimm, the saviour of small clans vs... well... the rest really... right? Am I missing something?
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You betrayed The Wolves by not attacking the Apostates when they broke alliance and attacked us the first time.
Then to top it all off when peace was forced on the opposing parties you say that you'l attack whoever breaks the peace this time.
Then you betray the Apostates by letting them get wiped.
You people needed the Wolves (CFA?), The Apostates, yourselves and the Temps to beat the GO who were semi active. By throwing away your "friends" (we'l call it that) you forced a defensive war on your selves that you will lose when the 1/3d rule is removed.
(I wonder how good your grinding troops will go when you're getting hit 10x a day)
I made this small for your small attention spans.
....I didn't bring it up, but i don't let myself get slandered from guys, who personally dont know me , but talk about my morals and telling me i'd be the hypocrit here ^^.
>>>> THIS STRAT ROUND <<<< no one, I repeat NO ONE cares about strat 1,2 and 3.
... Kinngrimm, the saviour of small clans vs... well... the rest really... right? Am I missing something?Not a saviour as i do have self interests. Most of the times, the Wolves had been a small to medium sized clan. Only in strat 3.0 we became fucking huge, then still not as huge as other clans.
...:) look Rogue, i don't blame big clans for being big, i see the arms race and the simalarites to RL politics and geopolitical strategies. I even get that Okin, tried to stay neutral in 3.0/4.0 and when i asked him also again, imposing the realities that we needed that space to be able to get our economy up, that he wasnt inclide to be pressed into an alliance in 3.0. I do get that you, ramses, and others had have some hopes in strat 3.0, which had been shattered by me and that in a way which wasnt nice and i told you in 4.0 in the beginning and later, i wouldnt hold it against you if you would just wipe us, up there in the north. You had been speaking very openly, sometimes rough, but at least not to me ever insulting. I do respect you and came to like your personality.
@Kinn Ramses has you there, moving and twiggling will just squeeze them tighter.
...2.0
Your going to have the same enemies every strat ...
I did see my wrong in strat 3.0, and i tried to make up for it in 4.0 and you know it!Yes you did! I admit I was not happy when Alpha "rammed you all down our collective throats", as we came to call it, on the voting day. First we accepted it mainly because of Alpha, who we and especially I already held in high regards <3. We also fulfilled our obligations to you in the voting, as strange as it felt to hand over all these fiefs to someone so many of us still wanted to see bleed.
Mercs stood idlyThe story of Mercs in Strat 4 summed up. I am not saying this to trashtalk Mercs, just ask Tyr how much I kept trying to kick his ass into action.
And while HRE even in 2.0 did retreat from an attack after i questioned what was going onI do remember this, first time we ever talked. But this giant army was always inteded to and proceeded to head further north to help FCC vs DRZ.
I even worked my ass off to help broker a peace between some very stubborn Mercs and Wolves with outrageous and silly demands on both sides.
NA offers more Drama these days
Battlegazi => Battalgazi 8-)
The point is that you still try to whitewash what happened in Strat3. Remember what you told me on Steam immediatly after the big "coming out"? That you were sorry and you claimed that, at the very least, you will not try to deny and stand for what and how you did it? This did not last very long, minutes later you were already hard had work to construct the tale of an unwilling kinngrimm being "pressured" into something he didn't want.The world is not only black or white, it is grey(no pun intended, otherwise i would add 'without order'). Why in your and other peoples minds, can only be one of these positions be true, it is not math or binary code. In human relations, the perspective is different in how you expierence situations. I did what i did out of my own reasons. The difference is, i did saw and see your perspective and ackowledged them, why cant others care to try to put themselves into my shoes ^^. I know that i caused pain in a way which wasnt nice and yes i appologized, also to Battalgazi back then. He was pissed, but congratulated me to a good ruse i played.
It was not even close to that. You had your backs to the wall and the war vs the Nords was going nowhere.We were in a stalement.
I even asked you specifically about Hospitaller & Occitan, because after talking with Peppo & Arrowaine (which was bascially a 30min rant about what an evil SOB Loki was), I had serious doubts there would be any agreement possible. You claimed they didn't matter and the war should go on. I don't know where this sad story about the opressed small clans comes from, but it was never a topic in these talks. There was also no unwillingness on your part. You seemed very eager for it, even personally put up the agreement on googledocs to move things forward.Well to play a ruse, you need to make it believable, we also attacked Hospitallers because of that reason, took the goods, swapped them with GO and brought back materials to Hospitallers. The players in Asugan Castle could have eysily determined the true nature of the realtions and there were some. Again Loki addmitted he always knew "as a matter of fact" that we were playing them, but couldnt do anything about it. If he didnt tell you, i dont know why.
We did form a good working relationship and I came to trust you again.all true and also again as meanwhile not surprsing to me anymore, with good judgment.
Remember hat I told you about that Ottoman/Merc issue and your concerns about Mercs in general! When the Apostates started that war against Wolves/CFA we were asked to participate (by both sides btw) and contemplated doing it, but among being a collosal waste of resources you did not deserver it, and especially after you left, punishing Wolves for Strat3 would have been wrong. I even worked my ass off to help broker a peace between some very stubborn Mercs and Wolves with outrageous and silly demands on both sides. In the end big turkish pride and general inactivity made it all useless. A decision I presently regret.
The story of Mercs in Strat 4 summed up. I am not saying this to trashtalk Mercs, just ask Tyr how much I kept trying to kick his ass into action.
As a sidenote:I do remember this, first time we ever talked. But this giant army was always intended to and proceeded to head further north to help FCC vs DRZ.I am inclined to believe you, especially as i have some trouble remembering the exact circumstances .