of course, why do i even bother. i am forgetting this is a game where most people play just one weapon style. my bad.
remind yourselves of this thread when you go and moan about 1h knockdown. thanks.
I am sincere in what I said. its natural that every playstyle or class has its problems with certain enemies, you have to adapt your approach...
aaand its quite hypocrite saying
while you want a weapon of another class being balanced to your convinience, without thinking that ranged, polearmers or other 2handers (and even 1handers with other builds) might not experience your problems with high strength maulers.
Give high weight shields (8.5+) a better protection against Mauls and we are fine.
Crushtrough has been nerfed to shit, this is a non issue, move to Chamber of Teras asap and let this thread die in obscurity.
Chrushtrough with high strength is still very strong and extremly frustrating for your enemies.
i would really like to believe you people, but i cant.
more than half of you play nothing but 2h, pole, or cav.
been on EU_1 while ago.
ratios go as this:
shielders: 10%
cav: 15%
ranged of all kinds 30%
the rest is 2h/pole.
most of them cried their eyes out, besides having broken overhead, best sideslashes and stab comparable to 1h, not to mention crush throught weapons.
cant you move around them? and why block if you can hit them first? you can constantly prevent their slow ass overhead by threatening them with a hit... you can dance around them... ahrg(click to show/hide)
They sacrifice quite allot to be able to crush :wink:
1h left swing spam and stab are even more frustrating to everyone not using them, your point?
cant you move around them? and why block if you can hit them first? you can constantly prevent their slow ass overhead by threatening them with a hit... you can dance around them... ahrg
str maulers rly are only a threat if you get overwhelmed or do a mistake, thats what i thought. how much athl do you have? how heavy is your gear?
Mauls were already nerfed a lot. They used to be annoying, but now you can either spam them or block them*. In group fights pikers and other spearmen are even more annoying than maulers who you can outmaneuver most of the time even with 5 athletics.
*Do non-held overheads go through shields? If they don't, I don't see a problem here.
Unlike Mauls you can block left swings and stabs.
nope, they ovehead and turn around, with me receiving full damage besides the overhead being completely off.
Unlike Mauls you can block left swings and stabs.
A mauler is usually a slow tincan that has very heavy armor, low ath, very slow weapon with bugged overhead hitboxes, I believe for all this sacrifices he makes current crushtrough chance is not even fair.For a 1v1 situation you are right. but in a groupfight it is very disturbing if your block is worth nothing.
As an experienced shielder you must know that with proper footwork and that lighting left spam they should present no problem to you.
For a 1v1 situation you are right. but in a groupfight it is very disturbing if your block is worth nothing.
Still you do block most things including projectiles which other melee classes don't have the luxury of and they also suffer to crushtrough.What I would like to see is that the crushthrough only knocks you down but does no damage. So at least there is some difference for me wheter I block or not.
Maulers used to scare me :D U can either outspam them or simply keep the distance since u have longer reachThis.
Still you do block most things including projectiles which other melee classes don't have the luxury of and they also suffer to crushtrough.
What I would like to see is that the crushthrough only knocks you down but does no damage. So at least there is some difference for me wheter I block or not.
I think a 100% knockdownchance against a block is still a pretty good bonus.
I often need about 10 hits to kill a tincan mauler.
30/9 should have dear trouble actually hitting you, try improving your approach
This.
I mean wtf... has any of you recently played a mauler? Even with held overhead it's barely 50% CT on shielders anyway. Not to mention that with the high weight and low ath it's your own fault for even letting a maul into your range.
And in 5v1 situation you complain that there is actually one weapon group you can't block with the magic force field? -.-
This thread is ridiculous.
oh yeah? my last 10 blocks on maul ovehead ended up in crushthrought. what the hell are you talking about?
ah so few pros, maybe a 1h buff is in order?
i dont want 1h buffed, they are pretty fine now. i just wish i could actually do something but to watch how they waltz in front of me [because a guy in full plate with a huge mauls is faster than a guy in light mail and heater shield] and bash my skull in, because they dont need to use their brain to get past the block.
Running backwards and blocking with a shield sure makes you slower than a guy in plate running forward
running backwards is slower for guys w/o shield as well -.-
weapon with bugged overhead hitboxesGolden point :!: Now imagine the fight in clusterfuck on tight walls, team-members behind you. You can move only forward and block or make overhead. If you can't make overhead beacuse this bug/feature you often die.
I often need about 10 hits to kill a tincan mauler.So you use cut weapon or have low PS. I don't remember to survive 10 hits at least once on strategus battles [10 IF] ... I think it's only possible with full STR whore.
And yet another piss dumb thread by a braindead idiot.
Like we didn't have enough of them.
I mean honestly, you sacrifice almost everything except damage for bein a mauler.
80 Speed with shit turnrate, I can spam almost any Mauler to crap with my archer alt.
Maulers are only useful in ganks and tiny spaces but suck quite hard anywhere else.
Just because someone plays shitty against a certain class it doesn't mean the class is op...
I´ve only been playing maul for a day and I already see this post :lol:Yep. Clearly only about you.
Just because someone plays shitty against a certain class it doesn't mean the class is op...1handed stab op
Well, Knightly Heater Shield is one of the lightest (viable) shields in the game. So you shouldn't complain if a Maul is able to crush through it.
What annoys me is that even a Steel Shield with 12.5 weight offers almost no protection against Mauls.
lol the problem with this thread is that you are all EU, quite literally you have not a clue whats goin on in the NA server(you all complain about ranged, which we dont seem to have a problem with, our problem are mauls)......We have the whole Semenstorm Horde literally all using long mauls, so in turn you will have around 10 long maulers who either instantly knock u down or just ct you to death with no skill involved. Please come play on NA, you will see the light of day, i die to Rohypnol and his maul crew almost every round, hell, ill start taking screens of the entire maul crew. Its bad, its meta gaming at its finest and it sucks, because it makes it stupid to play when u are slaughtered without a chance to survive.
High ranged pressure in eu = less slow, hard-hitting maulers.
Low ranged pressure in na = more slow, hard-hitting maulers.
When the cycle turns to more ranged the amount of maulers will probably decrease and more hoplites and shielders will come forth. That's what usually happens.
lol the problem with this thread is that you are all EU, quite literally you have not a clue whats goin on in the NA server(you all complain about ranged, which we dont seem to have a problem with, our problem are mauls)......We have the whole Semenstorm Horde literally all using long mauls, so in turn you will have around 10 long maulers who either instantly knock u down or just ct you to death with no skill involved. Please come play on NA, you will see the light of day, i die to Rohypnol and his maul crew almost every round, hell, ill start taking screens of the entire maul crew. Its bad, its meta gaming at its finest and it sucks, because it makes it stupid to play when u are slaughtered without a chance to survive.
lol the problem with this thread is that you are all EU, quite literally you have not a clue whats goin on in the NA server(you all complain about ranged, which we dont seem to have a problem with, our problem are mauls)......We have the whole Semenstorm Horde literally all using long mauls, so in turn you will have around 10 long maulers who either instantly knock u down or just ct you to death with no skill involved. Please come play on NA, you will see the light of day, i die to Rohypnol and his maul crew almost every round, hell, ill start taking screens of the entire maul crew. Its bad, its meta gaming at its finest and it sucks, because it makes it stupid to play when u are slaughtered without a chance to survive.
Exaggeration at it's finest. There are 3 of us who at running plate/maul builds, not 10. Long mauls are 76 speed, meaning that nearly any weapon can outspam it. Long maul also requires at least a minimum hold in order to get any sort of crushthrough.
I am walrus, palatro did it for a gen and is now a thrower. maple whisky is a throwing lancer, bitchyouaint is a 2her currently. Not trying to downplay it. You said Semenstorm comes on with 10 maulers, and i corrected you. Its 2 maybe 3 maulers from semenstorm. Fluxy is the only other notable long mauler that i can think of off the top of my head that isn't in semenstorm. I have never even remotely seen 10 long maulers on 1 team, 5 maybe, but you know that is few and far between.
On the topic of skill, i can just as easy say that what you do, 1h with shield is skillless. Ive shielder well over 10 gens in CRPG. I challenge you to try out this build and pull a decent score. I promise you, it is significantly easier to score well with a shield, long pointy stick, or a longsword.
Can you honestly tell me who is noteworthy with a crushthrough weapon on NA other than a couple semenstorm guys and fluxy_mb? Not to put anyone down, but nobody really stands out besides maybe 4 people. Players always flock to the easiest way to play games, which is why you see so many crossbows, throwers, longsworders and spearmen. What do you not see a lot of? Mauls, because 9/10 people who pick one up suck ass with them.