could something be done about mauls please?

[Nightmare798]

[Tibe]

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[Torben]

30/9 should have dear trouble actually hitting you, try improving your approach

[Prpavi]

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[Nightmare798]

[Erzengel]

Well, Knightly Heater Shield is one of the lightest (viable) shields in the game. So you shouldn't complain if a Maul is able to crush through it.

What annoys me is that even a Steel Shield with 12.5 weight offers almost no protection against Mauls.

[Torben]

I am sincere in what I said.  its natural that every playstyle or class has its problems with certain enemies, you have to adapt your approach...

aaand its quite hypocrite saying 

of course, why do i even bother. i am forgetting this is a game where most people play just one weapon style. my bad.

remind yourselves of this thread when you go and moan about 1h knockdown. thanks.

while you want a weapon of another class being balanced to your convinience,  without thinking that ranged,  polearmers or other 2handers (and even 1handers with other builds)  might not experience your problems with high strength maulers.

[Erzengel]

Mauls are not a huge problem in 1vs1 situations. The annyoing thing about them is that you nearly have no chance fighting several enemies at once if one of them is a mauler. No matter how good you or your enemies are. High strength Mauler is just a no brainer in so many situations...

Give high weight shields (8.5+) a better protection against Mauls and we are fine.

[Nightmare798]

I am sincere in what I said.  its natural that every playstyle or class has its problems with certain enemies, you have to adapt your approach...

aaand its quite hypocrite saying 
while you want a weapon of another class being balanced to your convinience,  without thinking that ranged,  polearmers or other 2handers (and even 1handers with other builds)  might not experience your problems with high strength maulers.

look, if i could at least manual block to defeat this, then it would be fine, but am utterly helpless against them.

i get what? one hit in? before they wiggle their overhead and one shot me.

talk about game balance...

Give high weight shields (8.5+) a better protection against Mauls and we are fine.

i dont want to be completely sluggish when wielding shield.

i already receive huge penalty to movement speed, why should i be also penalized on attacks?

the problem is that i move so slow that i cant even dodge it.

[Prpavi]

Crushtrough has been nerfed to shit, this is a non issue, move to Chamber of Teras asap and let this thread die in obscurity.

[Mr.K.]

Mauls were already nerfed a lot. They used to be annoying, but now you can either spam them or block them*. In group fights pikers and other spearmen are even more annoying than maulers who you can outmaneuver most of the time even with 5 athletics.

*Do non-held overheads go through shields? If they don't, I don't see a problem here.

[Erzengel]

Crushtrough has been nerfed to shit, this is a non issue, move to Chamber of Teras asap and let this thread die in obscurity.

Chrushtrough with high strength is still very strong and extremly frustrating for your enemies.

Edit: Not saying that Mauls need a further nerf, just make high weight shields actually useful versus Mauls.

[Prpavi]

Chrushtrough with high strength is still very strong and extremly frustrating for your enemies.

They sacrifice quite allot to be able to crush 

1h left swing spam and stab are even more frustrating to everyone not using them, your point?

[rufio]

http://forum.melee.org/game-balance-discussion/1h-stab-54339/msg877525/#msg877525

i would really like to believe you people, but i cant.

more than half of you play nothing but 2h, pole, or cav.

been on EU_1 while ago.

ratios go as this:

shielders: 10%
cav: 15%
ranged of all kinds 30%

the rest is 2h/pole.

most of them cried their eyes out, besides having broken overhead, best sideslashes and stab comparable to 1h, not to mention crush throught weapons.

[Torben]

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look, if i could at least manual block to defeat this, then it would be fine, but am utterly helpless against them.

i get what? one hit in? before they wiggle their overhead and one shot me.

talk about game balance...

i dont want to be completely sluggish when wielding shield.

i already receive huge penalty to movement speed, why should i be also penalized on attacks?

the problem is that i move so slow that i cant even dodge it.

cant you move around them?  and why block if you can hit them first?  you can constantly prevent their slow ass overhead by threatening them with a hit...  you can dance around them... ahrg
str maulers rly are only a threat if you get overwhelmed or do a mistake,  thats what i thought.   how much athl do you have?  how heavy is your gear?