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Title: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Panos_ on October 08, 2013, 11:53:08 am
So, lets say you had the chance to add some new weapons to the mod, what weapons would you add and why??

(no ranged)
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Bjord on October 08, 2013, 11:59:47 am
I don't think more weapons are needed. I'd rather see improvements and re-skins of old armours and weapons. The old models are pretty much the only link to Warband Native.
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Post by: Sniger on October 08, 2013, 12:06:46 pm
i belive we are pretty much covered apart from this

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gogo physx :P
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Post by: autobus on October 08, 2013, 12:07:11 pm
All the weapon types could use some more pierce/blunt weapon variations imo.

Sniger, i don't think flexible weapons are doable.
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Panos_ on October 08, 2013, 12:11:07 pm
I don't think more weapons are needed. I'd rather see improvements and re-skins of old armours and weapons. The old models are pretty much the only link to Warband Native.

Couldn`t agree with you more, but this thread is about weapons
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Post by: Molly on October 08, 2013, 12:11:18 pm
I am fine with the amount of choices we have. I don't need more weapons.

I have one specific suggestion tho: Staff and Quarterstaff have both knockdown while the Double Sided Lance doesn't. Make the Lance more expensive but add knockdown please :)
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Post by: Gnjus on October 08, 2013, 12:14:37 pm
When I saw the subject of this thread I thought you were gonna ask for money.......
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Post by: Kafein on October 08, 2013, 12:19:04 pm
A reflecting shield that throws all projectiles back at the sender with the same speed and damage they had when they were fired.
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Post by: Panos_ on October 08, 2013, 12:25:09 pm
I myself voted shields, since I would love to see some themed shields being added


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Post by: Ronin on October 08, 2013, 12:28:08 pm
I would vote for more throwing weapons, but since it is stated not to be ranged; I vote for more African-Muslim polearms.
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Post by: Teeth on October 08, 2013, 12:33:43 pm
I think we should try to add weapons that provide a new fighting style, a new niche. A very long 4 directional polearm is a niche we haven't really covered. We currently have the Fauchard and the Glaive. The Glaive is my old friendgy and not actually all that long and the Fauchard has fucking 28 cut which is just a dumb crap value. I'd like to see something like the Looney Toons Axe back, although that might have been shorter, don't really remember. Something very slow, long, heavy, quite high damage and 4 directional. I don't care if it stats are somewhat crappy, as long as it is viable.

Basically the Long Voulge, I think it should be restored to its former 4 directional glory. Maybe Bars will even come back and play then. It would give us a unique fighting style.

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Do eet! Not really a new weapon as much as fitting a non used shit weapon into its own niche which might actually see it get used.
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Post by: Kafein on October 08, 2013, 01:28:55 pm
I think we should try to add weapons that provide a new fighting style, a new niche. A very long 4 directional polearm is a niche we haven't really covered. We currently have the Fauchard and the Glaive. The Glaive is my old friendgy and not actually all that long and the Fauchard has fucking 28 cut which is just a dumb crap value. I'd like to see something like the Looney Toons Axe back, although that might have been shorter, don't really remember. Something very slow, long, heavy, quite high damage and 4 directional. I don't care if it stats are somewhat crappy, as long as it is viable.

Basically the Long Voulge, I think it should be restored to its former 4 directional glory. Maybe Bars will even come back and play then. It would give us a unique fighting style.

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Do eet! Not really a new weapon as much as fitting a non used shit weapon into its own niche which might actually see it get used.

No. The mechanics of the game are not suited for long 4D weapons. At all. I've used the Looney Tunes Axe for about three months (november 2010 to january 2011) and there is no way to build a weapon like that without making it completely broken one way or another.

Even if you give it a speed of 40 (which would realistically speaking be much too fast anyway) anybody would still be able to hiltslash with 40c.
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Prpavi on October 08, 2013, 01:31:22 pm
Reduced server lag would be a nice start
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Post by: Teeth on October 08, 2013, 01:54:28 pm
No. The mechanics of the game are not suited for long 4D weapons. At all. I've used the Looney Tunes Axe for about three months (november 2010 to january 2011) and there is no way to build a weapon like that without making it completely broken one way or another.

Even if you give it a speed of 40 (which would realistically speaking be much too fast anyway) anybody would still be able to hiltslash with 40c.
I'd love to see you try to spam people with long maul hiltslash attempts, you are simply not correct. I really don't get this burning hatred for polearms you have. If you were right then the Long Voulge should've been a popular weapon. It wasn't, only Bars used it consistently and he did well because he was simply experienced with it and a good player overall.
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 08, 2013, 02:18:21 pm
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Great long bardiche is pretty long and hardhitting, a weapon longer than that would probably just be broken.
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Post by: Fartface on October 08, 2013, 02:18:55 pm
Great long bardiche is pretty long and hardhitting, a weapon longer than that would probably just be broken.
Except that it's slow and gets stuck on pretty mutch evrything.
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Post by: Prpavi on October 08, 2013, 02:22:19 pm
+3 GLB is awesome, too bad everybody is a spamwhore nowdays

Just might play a gen of 24/15 GLB

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Post by: Torben on October 08, 2013, 02:23:24 pm
mod needs a long,  stabby weapon that can be used on horseback to kill people.  Something like a heavy lance,  but with damage output.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Hirlok on October 08, 2013, 02:24:55 pm
(no ranged)

fu ;-)

actually bows, arrows, xbows and bolts are the LEAST varied items in game and could really use some love and creativity!
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Post by: Spurdospera on October 08, 2013, 02:28:51 pm
I would love to see "Looney tunes axe" again ingame. Just because it was so ridiculous weapon.
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Post by: Kafein on October 08, 2013, 02:30:35 pm
I'd love to see you try to spam people with long maul hiltslash attempts, you are simply not correct.

It doesn't always work with the long maul due to the poor damage and soak negate of blunt. With the great maul, I spam almost always. A bit less if I know I won't get any blockstuns though.

I really don't get this burning hatred for polearms you have.

I really don't hate polearms, I hate hiltslashing, and all kinds of swings and stabs that hit before being actually rendered (or possibly blockable), which in my experience playing on both ends of the attack happens much more often with polearms.

If you were right then the Long Voulge should've been a popular weapon.

The Looney Tunes axe wasn't a popular weapon at all either. It only became slightly more so when I started using it 24/7 even in duel. If you look around, many slightly OP melee weapons aren't that much more used than "just decent" counterparts these days.

It wasn't, only Bars used it consistently and he did well because he was simply experienced with it and a good player overall.

The problem reduces to hiltslashing, really. Bars was good with a long voulge because he had it masterworked and could hiltslash consistently. While I do not want to deny his skill doing that particular thing, it is still a bug.

Everyone agrees the glaive is a my old friendget weapon, but it doesn't seem anybody is able to pinpoint the reasoning behind it. I'm saying it is the combination of length, sideswings, polearm animations, polestun (yes, lower body stun) and decent damage. Basically any weapon with those traits is horrible to play against, because every second attack they will hit before you can see an animation played on your screen and every successful attack pins you on the ground making you a sitting duck for any other player.
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Bjord on October 08, 2013, 02:32:01 pm
stop it, nerds

Also, 2h best h.
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Post by: Rebelyell on October 08, 2013, 02:36:32 pm
2h need some love we have almost the same 2h weapons that in 2010
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Post by: AntiBlitz on October 08, 2013, 02:41:40 pm
I'd love to see you try to spam people with long maul hiltslash attempts, you are simply not correct. I really don't get this burning hatred for polearms you have. If you were right then the Long Voulge should've been a popular weapon. It wasn't, only Bars used it consistently and he did well because he was simply experienced with it and a good player overall.

The NA Chaos clan at the time all used the long Voulge as a weapon, and used it in strat battles as well, at times in battle you would have 10 guys with long voulges, and the strat battles well you get the idea.  They were long and quite spammy with high cut damage, It was very hard to fight that.
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: brockssn on October 08, 2013, 02:53:44 pm
I voted shields, as I played shielder for 6 gens or so. I think some decent lightweight shields are needed and some shields with spikes that could hurt a horse if they run you over while blocking or give dmg with the nudge button.

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Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Teeth on October 08, 2013, 03:02:44 pm
Yes, in Strategus the old Long Voulge was a very good weapon, especially for it's price. The cut damage was quite low though, think it was like 38, which made it suited pretty much only for low armour early strat battles. On regular battle where at least on EU everyone rocks 50-70 body armour, 38c is nothing compared to what the slightly shorter, much faster polearms like a GLB offer. Which was why pretty much no one used it. It was a gimpy weapon which was nerfed because of Strat, which was bullshit. They should have increased the price to prevent it's over usage in early Strat battles.

My proposed stats have 80 speed with an unbalanced weapon. That shit is tricky to use and you won't hiltslash anyone with it. I don't know what the original stats were from the 4 direction Long Voulge, but they were not OP when combined with an increase in price. I would find those old stats good too.
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Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on October 08, 2013, 03:25:32 pm
Actually, more ranged variety might be nice.
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Post by: Tibe on October 08, 2013, 03:39:50 pm
Althou id like to see even more of my beloved 1h-s ingame, I must admit, the selection is quite varied. The 2h selection is not half bad either. Pole variation aint so awful either..... Personally im pleased with the the current weaponselection. Id just like more armors and perhaps shields.
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Post by: Prpavi on October 08, 2013, 03:40:20 pm
Actually, more ranged variety might be nice.

Also a little ranged buff would be good for the mod
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Post by: Molly on October 08, 2013, 03:41:25 pm
Yes, in Strategus the old Long Voulge was a very good weapon, especially for it's price. The cut damage was quite low though, think it was like 38, which made it suited pretty much only for low armour early strat battles. On regular battle where at least on EU everyone rocks 50-70 body armour, 38c is nothing compared to what the slightly shorter, much faster polearms like a GLB offer. Which was why pretty much no one used it. It was a gimpy weapon which was nerfed because of Strat, which was bullshit. They should have increased the price to prevent it's over usage in early Strat battles.

My proposed stats have 80 speed with an unbalanced weapon. That shit is tricky to use and you won't hiltslash anyone with it. I don't know what the original stats were from the 4 direction Long Voulge, but they were not OP when combined with an increase in price. I would find those old stats good too.
Everyone knows I am no expert on game mechanic. I just play and don't really care about how things work.
The things that made me "not disagree" or object Teeth's proposal is the 20 strength requirement. The best you can achieve on the annoying agi side is probably 21/21 as build. I mean, everyone dislikes GLA spammer. A strong weapon that limits a build in such a reasonable way can't really be a problem, right?

Just my 2 cents.

Oww, and give knockdown to the Double Sided Lance. Nothing else than a quarterstaff with little blades at the end. Do that!
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Bjord on October 08, 2013, 03:44:26 pm
Everyone knows I am no expert...

We couldn't possibly! Your posts are always so educated and enlightening.
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Post by: Molly on October 08, 2013, 03:51:54 pm
As you can imagine how retarded I probably was...
You still seem to be - barely noticeable tho, no really, barely.
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 08, 2013, 03:53:34 pm
I would love a curved 1h sword that could do a stab (I'd even be fine with weak cut damage!) and wasn't byzmy old friendish.
Panos all the shields you proposed could be done with the heraldic shields we got now and a custom banner.
Besides Zagibus amazing hot colored armor and a camel I don't think cRPG really needs new gear.
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Molly on October 08, 2013, 03:55:50 pm
I would love a curved 1h sword that could do a stab (I'd even be fine with weak cut damage!) and wasn't byzmy old friendish.
Panos all the shields you proposed could be done with the heraldic shields we got now and a custom banner.
Besides Zagibus amazing hot colored armor and a camel I don't think cRPG really needs new gear.
But please not as "out of line" with the hitboxes like the Spammitar. Otherwise, a stabby curved sword sounds nice.
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Post by: Joseph Porta on October 08, 2013, 03:56:39 pm
We have the long maul but.. Yeah..  I would like a warhammer about the length of a Bec, maybe even shorter, with polearm animations! Doh
Otherwise I guess the choices are more then plenty

Bec is just gay and puny, need something more manly
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 08, 2013, 03:57:23 pm
But please not as "out of line" with the hitboxes like the Spammitar. Otherwise, a stabby curved sword sounds nice.
Yeah, I'm thinking more something like our old Shashka, and not stabby as much as merely able to stab.
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Post by: Molly on October 08, 2013, 03:59:06 pm
Yeah, I'm thinking more something like our old Shashka, and not stabby as much as merely able to stab.
I loved the Shashka for its looks. And it seems to be pretty much what you mean. Had something around 32c swinging and low 20's on the stab, iirc.
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Post by: Joseph Porta on October 08, 2013, 04:00:30 pm
Shashka was shit and all it did was glance, but it had good looks and i often used it in my eastern nomad outfit
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Post by: Prpavi on October 08, 2013, 04:09:28 pm
Would love to see boulder on a stick back, badassest looking weapon in the game!  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Gurnisson on October 08, 2013, 04:23:01 pm
The 4d long voulge was pretty much only used by Bars, but the economy in strat at that time favoured peasant armies and the Long Voulge was really, really good in those battles considering its price, so they nerfed it.

Now we have the strategus armies crutching loomed high-tier gauntlets, plate and other high-tier armours, with the best weapons available crafted. The Long Voulge would never be used (except by Bars probably..) in this version of strat. Make Long Voulge what it was or what Teeth suggested. As of now it's one of the, if not the worst weapon in the game.
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Post by: pingpong on October 08, 2013, 04:34:40 pm
Some sort of sarissa spear, like with 500 reach would be nice, just make it have like 40 speed so not to OP, pike just doesnt cut it for me.
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Post by: Panos_ on October 09, 2013, 11:28:12 am
I would love a curved 1h sword that could do a stab (I'd even be fine with weak cut damage!) and wasn't byzmy old friendish.
Panos all the shields you proposed could be done with the heraldic shields we got now and a custom banner.
Besides Zagibus amazing hot colored armor and a camel I don't think cRPG really needs new gear.


a banner slot can cost from 150k to 250k, so themed shields are a must to people who arent in a big clan and wanna play solo a theme..
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Post by: En_Dotter on October 09, 2013, 11:57:24 am
I'd like to see 3 new weapons (or weapons types). Flails are missing (dont know if game can handle it), repeating xbows (it is possible, i did it myself using "tweek m&b" tool), and those katars and similar things used in asia (basically dual wield in a way with those special weapon types, but i doubt engine can handle it and it would be a real SPAMOSAURUS weapon).
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Post by: Ronin on October 09, 2013, 12:44:30 pm
En_Dotter, I believe you didn't see the repeating crossbow in SP mods yet. I don't really think they will gonna get added to crpg. Low damage, insane rate of fire makes the game to favor heavy armor more which would be an undesired effect. I remember using a repeating crossbow in Light&Darkness: Heroes of Calradia mod.

As for dual wielding, I am keeping my hopes high for this. After all it should be similiar to shield bashes, only problem is the game should read as if we have nothing in the left hand; therefore blocking manually with our right hand as if we block with a 1h weapon (with right click). When we attempt a nudge, our left hand will have to play an animation. It doesn't even have to have attack directions. Or maybe we should just wait for bannerlord.
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Post by: RobertOfDrugsley on October 09, 2013, 01:06:08 pm
repeating xbows

HERETIC! KILL IT!
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Post by: Prpavi on October 09, 2013, 01:10:16 pm
I'd like to see 3 new weapons (or weapons types). Flails are missing (dont know if game can handle it), repeating xbows (it is possible, i did it myself using "tweek m&b" tool), and those katars and similar things used in asia (basically dual wield in a way with those special weapon types, but i doubt engine can handle it and it would be a real SPAMOSAURUS weapon).


3 strikes, aaaaand you're out!

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Post by: Grumpy_Nic on October 09, 2013, 08:33:22 pm
tar bombs to slow down rondel f----a. ggo+ts and the ability to set them afire with the torch afterwards to see them burning
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Post by: Mendro on October 09, 2013, 09:38:57 pm
Trowing !
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Post by: Joseph Porta on October 09, 2013, 11:05:38 pm
Pls..
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Post by: bagge on October 09, 2013, 11:22:09 pm
0-slot blunt/pierce please
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Post by: Rebelyell on October 10, 2013, 01:25:46 am
0-slot blunt/pierce please
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Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2013, 01:33:16 am
I'd like to see 3 new weapons (or weapons types). Flails are missing (dont know if game can handle it), repeating xbows (it is possible, i did it myself using "tweek m&b" tool), and those katars and similar things used in asia (basically dual wield in a way with those special weapon types, but i doubt engine can handle it and it would be a real SPAMOSAURUS weapon).

Would you be so kind to get out?
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Post by: bagge on October 10, 2013, 01:00:58 pm
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Post by: Panos_ on October 10, 2013, 01:13:27 pm
whats with all the Namo pictures?
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Post by: Prpavi on October 10, 2013, 01:46:57 pm
whats with all the Namo pictures?

Ha! Knave!
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Post by: Panos_ on October 10, 2013, 01:48:23 pm
Ha! Knave!

YOU FOOL!

I`m an Exiled King!
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Post by: bagge on October 10, 2013, 01:50:44 pm
YOU FOOL!

I`m an Exiled King!

That suck dicks for money. The exiled-prostitute-beggar king :(
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Post by: Rebelyell on October 10, 2013, 01:52:53 pm
:cry:
to be honest bagge get some ps and that weapon
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it is fuking sick weapon
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Post by: bagge on October 10, 2013, 01:58:56 pm
to be honest bagge get some ps and that weapon
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it is fuking sick weapon

I have 6 PS. I'm currently playing with MW Broad Short Sword. Tbh I'd prefer the Scottish Sword, cause of it's 33 pierce as MW :)
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Post by: Panos_ on October 10, 2013, 01:59:31 pm
That suck dicks for money. The exiled-prostitute-beggar king :(

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Post by: bagge on October 10, 2013, 02:03:17 pm
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 :mrgreen:
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Post by: Prpavi on October 10, 2013, 02:06:23 pm
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 10, 2013, 03:58:14 pm
YOU FOOL!

I`m an Exiled King!
The Namo appreciation day has nothing to do with royalty, you simply are being excluded due to not appreciating Namo and his Namodachi.
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Post by: //saxon on October 11, 2013, 09:10:45 am
Iron Greatsword.
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Post by: Bjord on October 11, 2013, 09:14:10 am
Iron Greatsword.

Strawberry Pancake.
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Post by: Panos_ on October 11, 2013, 09:14:25 am
This is not skyrim  :twisted:
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Post by: Rebelyell on October 11, 2013, 02:34:48 pm
bring me new 2h panos
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Post by: //saxon on October 11, 2013, 05:04:53 pm
Strawberry Pancake.
move 72 posts..

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Post by: BASNAK on October 11, 2013, 08:16:03 pm
Well since nothing useful came out from this thread I'll try this new gif here.


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Post by: Hiro on October 11, 2013, 08:39:41 pm
I prefer 2h and polearms

I hope chadz could nerf the ranged weapons
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Post by: XyNox on October 11, 2013, 09:10:28 pm
I prefer 2h and polearms

I hope chadz could nerf the ranged weapons
He is a spy. He will turn red any second now ... aaaany second
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Post by: Franke on October 12, 2013, 01:19:19 am
Voted for shields. Mainly because I'm a shielder myself.

But apart from that: When Fips and I reworked the HRE equipment restriction we noticed that there are quite a numer of shields with a nice "preset" pattern on it (mainly the Norman shields, not the heraldic ones). Unfortunately most of these patterns do not fit (color-wise) to simple color combinations like the yellow and black of HRE. Some more shields with simple color combinations like for example black and yellow stripes would be nice.

I like the dedication with which you still try to contribute, Panos, but if I were you I would not expect too much (item-adding-wise) from this mod anymore. Just my two cents...
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Post by: Panos_ on October 14, 2013, 09:25:04 am
I like the dedication with which you still try to contribute, Panos, but if I were you I would not expect too much (item-adding-wise) from this mod anymore. Just my two cents...

Have faith my young padawan..  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Sniger on October 14, 2013, 12:48:19 pm
i know... no range....


BURNING ARROWS
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Post by: Algarn on October 14, 2013, 04:14:02 pm
i know... no range....


BURNING ARROWS

This ... It's soooo realistic to destroy catapults by shooting them with fireless arrows on strat ... Such realism  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Joseph Porta on October 14, 2013, 04:22:36 pm
Polearm unbalanced maul pls, say shorter version long maul, please.


Please?

Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Franke on October 14, 2013, 10:17:11 pm
This ... It's soooo realistic to destroy catapults by shooting them with fireless arrows on strat ... Such realism  :rolleyes:

Don't realism discussions about Strat belong into the Diplomacy forum?
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Rebelyell on October 14, 2013, 10:32:04 pm
panos where is my new 2h blunt weapon
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Panos_ on October 14, 2013, 10:42:00 pm
panos where is my new 2h blunt weapon

here bobby
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No need to thank me  :twisted:
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Jarold on October 14, 2013, 11:38:34 pm
Everything everyone is asking for is sitting in the suggestions corner wrapped up with a nice bow on top.


Panos' signature, mmmmmmhmmmmm
Title: Re: Attention people, I need your help..
Post by: Rebelyell on October 16, 2013, 06:36:25 pm
here bobby
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No need to thank me  :twisted:

it is 1h pierce weapon you dummy