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Title: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 29, 2013, 04:04:36 pm
So who else is going to pirate R2?

I'm going to download it and hand out free DVDs in the street. I'm not going to bother playing it though.

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"But Frank WHY? That is both dumb and pointless."

That may well be but it must be done!

CA are a bunch of cock guzzeling cum queens hell bent on fucking their player base silly. There is no way in hell CA learnt the lessons that were on offer during STW2. They have feverishly ignored them in favour of being total and complete cunts!

"We will be releasing DLC on day one and for years to come!"

So you mean that you finished the game and then, after finishing it, cut it into bite size chunks and are now going to drip feed the content to the community one 5$ instalment at a time?

Bravo you fuck wads, bravo.

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I predict that with in two weeks of release they will release DLC that will add multi-player units and become a pre-req for multi-player.

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To use a 'StryaCunt saying from the great Western wastes of Penrith.

"YOU'SE CUNTS ARE FUCKED CUNTS"

Burn in hell CA, burn in hell.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: IR_Kuoin on August 29, 2013, 04:09:52 pm
I hate faction / country DLCs, why not just add it to the game? Paying for DLCs to get the full experience of a game is just greedy
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 29, 2013, 04:11:47 pm
actually, they are deciededly givening us lots of content for free.(seleucids, Greek states for preorder, and Pontus), making us pay for expansions into entirely new areas(barbarian heavy, plus game content). Won't be surprised if they come up with an alexanders conquests, or scenarios(similar to the Rise/Fall method they chose) for this.

Also, frank, you're drunk. Arys rubbing off on you.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on August 29, 2013, 04:20:15 pm
actually, they are deciededly givening us lots of content for free.(seleucids, Greek states for preorder, and Pontus), making us pay for expansions into entirely new areas(barbarian heavy, plus game content). Won't be surprised if they come up with an alexanders conquests, or scenarios(similar to the Rise/Fall method they chose) for this.

Also, frank, you're drunk. Arys rubbing off on you.
Yes, they make you think you get lots of content for free, which should be free content anyway.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Havoco on August 29, 2013, 05:46:12 pm
Considering they already said that they weren't going to focus on multiplayer, why would I need to buy unit packs just for pvp? Though if I were to pirate a total war game, this one would probably be it.

I just hope it isn't like empire with the bugs or shogun with the multi campaign desyncs.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Ganner on August 29, 2013, 06:16:11 pm
Arys rubbing one off on you.

FFYT
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 29, 2013, 06:23:15 pm
FFYT

The fuk does that mean? Sorry I'm not gutter internet boy and need a little help in my advance age.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Doppel on August 29, 2013, 07:35:19 pm
I also hate DLC shit, espacially if they are day one.

But I want to help the stategy genre itself by buying the game, because game developers and publishers focus on shit-COD clones to squeeze as much money as possible out of the new gamer generation. They consider stategy games as a loss of money.. which is true, thanks to the popularity of consoles.
This is very sad in my opinion and I favor a Total War with shitty day one DLCs over the message "sorry no total war anymore. We will do generic action games for all platforms now".

I don't like the approach of CA, but there are almost no games out there without day one DLCs and pre order-shit.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Umbra on August 29, 2013, 08:14:23 pm
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Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on August 30, 2013, 01:28:36 am
FFYT

Flash Flash Your Titties

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@Anders - It's not "free" your paying them money! And the sheer bloody arseholic fact that all that content exists and then they cut it up and release it is just so fucking pathetic!

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Naught Dog is making DLC for their super awesome game "The Last of Us" but it's not due for release for another few months. I have no problem with DLC or a company releasing a full game and then releasing DLC's along way down the line.

CIV V is a good example of pretty decent DLC releases. Some were just shit but others were genuine improvements to the game.

Now what CA do, which is just utter cuntish behavior. Is they put the game out, all the factions are there, just sitting there ready to go. You can fight them but not play them. Then they put out a DLC that basically is just "1" because all it fucking does is switch the option that read

Faction x playable = 0

to

Faction x playable = 1

... Are you fucking joking CA you pack of dirt bag shit headed child rapist mother fuckers? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME! IS THIS SOME HUGE JOKE THAT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND? IS A STRIPER GOING TO LEAP OUT MY CLOSET AND MAN WITH SUIT GOING TO WALK INTO MY ROOM AND TOSS MONEY IN THE AIR AND YELL "SURPRISE BITCH! WE IS JUST FUCKING WITH YOU HOLMES! (see what I did their, I use Holmes instead of homes.) AND THEN I GET AN AWESOME LAP DANCE AND USE THE FLOOR MONEY TO PAY THE FILTHY GIRL FOR SEX!!!

No, no that isn't going to happen, CA are just cunts.

I know I stand more or less alone but this is going in my boycott list.

Suck my dick CA and then maybe, just maybe I'll give you a fiver.

Cunts be cunts yo.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Lizard_man on August 30, 2013, 02:04:32 am
I doubt the non playable factions will have all of the features that you see with playable factions, events and such...
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Banok on August 30, 2013, 04:03:04 am
Seems like your kind of clutching for excuses.

I mean I may still end up pirating this if my dodgy purchase doesn't go through, so I don't say this from a high horse. but CA seem like one of the few good PC developers left who aren't completely corrupt or gone for console $$$ (blizzard/crytek/etc.).

day 1 DLC is lame, but in this case I really don't think its AS bad as other games because A) its free if you pre order B) its not alot or important content C) they are doing free DLC aswell

day 1 dlc was more of a big deal when its shit like ME3 with important chunks of core content. I don't think you really have any right to hate on CA, plus what was wrong with shogun 2? I didnt buy it but its an amazing game.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Adamar on August 30, 2013, 06:36:28 am
Seems like your kind of clutching for excuses.

I mean I may still end up pirating this if my dodgy purchase doesn't go through, so I don't say this from a high horse. but CA seem like one of the few good PC developers left who aren't completely corrupt or gone for console $$$ (blizzard/crytek/etc.).

day 1 DLC is lame, but in this case I really don't think its AS bad as other games because A) its free if you pre order B) its not alot or important content C) they are doing free DLC aswell

day 1 dlc was more of a big deal when its shit like ME3 with important chunks of core content. I don't think you really have any right to hate on CA, plus what was wrong with shogun 2? I didnt buy it but its an amazing game.

Yes, they make you think you get lots of content for free, which should be free content anyway.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 30, 2013, 06:51:33 am
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Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Casimir on August 30, 2013, 03:20:08 pm
People demand better games every year, they demand improvements in graphics, mechanics, physics and everything else, yet expect to carry on paying exactly the same price.  CA put a lot of work and effort into their games and have a pretty big dev team working on them.  Furthermore with a solid base game there is nothing that makes you buy the dlc other than your own weak will or created sense of need.  Only think i brought for shogun was Fall of the samurai and I have nearly 200hrs of play from that.  If you don't want to pay full price wait 6 months and it will likely be on sale, if you can't afford it on release then learn some patience.

Committing yourself to pirate the base game now, before its released is lame arse move.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Bittersteel on August 30, 2013, 03:43:14 pm
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You fucking american scum.  :lol:
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 30, 2013, 04:48:48 pm

You fucking american scum.  :lol:

I just copied that from the Wiki for Rome 1 from TWC.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Tore on August 30, 2013, 06:55:30 pm
Bought Total War games on release games since Medieval 2, was kinda dissapoint after Empire (NTW and Shogun are good games but I didnt enjoy them as much as the previous ones) Not sure if im going to get Rome 2 looks good but the day one dlc crap makes me sick.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 30, 2013, 07:00:06 pm
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egyptian factions: egypt

hahaha...ha...
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Molly on August 30, 2013, 08:03:10 pm
I hope it gets close to the unit diversity that Medieval 2 had. That's still my all-time favourite out of the series.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Adamar on August 30, 2013, 08:37:29 pm
It should have more, considering this time period had the most cultural diversity.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: wayyyyyne on August 30, 2013, 09:12:15 pm
Bought Total War games on release games since Medieval 2, was kinda dissapoint after Empire (NTW and Shogun are good games but I didnt enjoy them as much as the previous ones) Not sure if im going to get Rome 2 looks good but the day one dlc crap makes me sick.

weren't you like 8 years old when medieval 2 came out?
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Fips on August 30, 2013, 10:54:06 pm
I saved up money to buy the Collector's Edition, because i never ever got dissappointed since i found out about total war. I'm not a fan of DLCs, but i'm a huge sucker for this franchise, so i don't care, i will buy everything.
I mean, i put at least 200 hours into every single Total war since rome 1. And medieval 2 is approximately like 1.5k hours in total (Although that has mainly to do with all those great mods, but i played vanilla a lot as well).
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Tore on August 30, 2013, 11:44:04 pm
weren't you like 8 years old when medieval 2 came out?

Something like that :D
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Overdriven on August 31, 2013, 12:07:54 am
I can only usually justify pirating a game to myself if I know it's one that I will only play for 10 hours but costs £30. I know for a fact that I will play this, as I have other TW games, for well over 100 hours. So no way I could justify pirating it. Yes day 1 DLC is shit. But then pretty much any DLC is shit in my opinion unless it's free or substantial enough to be sold as a major expansion.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Angantyr on August 31, 2013, 12:24:11 am
I used to buy CA games (and I only very rarely buy games, only ones really worth it) and was something of a fanboy up until buying the Nappy Collector's Edition for a small fortune and the whole dlc and unit pack money scheme just got to me. Haven't bought anything from them since in silent consumer protest. If I'm going to invest a lot of hours in it I may also finally invest the money. Rome looks to be a game I might do so with.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Bittersteel on September 01, 2013, 09:17:14 am
I just copied that from the Wiki for Rome 1 from TWC.


Fuck those english scum  :lol:
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Leesin on September 01, 2013, 04:16:38 pm
I see how many people bash on CA but you have to remember these guys are a development team, I imagine SEGA has a hand in how many DLC's CA must produce and when. This new DLC era in general pisses me off, but it seems like we can't make it go away so I'm not going to sit here and sulk about it. I will play this game for 100's of hours at least, I imagine thousands with multiplayer and mods, the £30 I spent to pre-order is £30 well spent and I'll happily part with a few £ here and there for the DLCs.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 02, 2013, 12:51:52 pm
Where do you get it so freaking cheap? I have to pay 54 euro on steam and on my local Gamestop.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Molly on September 02, 2013, 01:23:16 pm
Where do you get it so freaking cheap? I have to pay 54 euro on steam and on my local Gamestop.
Scroll up.

My bad. Check the other Rome 2 topic.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Leesin on September 02, 2013, 01:41:43 pm
Where do you get it so freaking cheap? I have to pay 54 euro on steam and on my local Gamestop.

UK.. which is why I used the £ lol. It was £30 pre-order on Steam.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Molly on September 02, 2013, 01:46:18 pm
Key seller - paid €35 instead of €59,99
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 02, 2013, 02:16:02 pm
UK.. which is why I used the £ lol. It was £30 pre-order on Steam.

Ik, but that is fucking cheap.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Leesin on September 02, 2013, 04:51:46 pm
Ik, but that is fucking cheap.

CA is based here so we are the master race of Total War and get it cheaper on Steam.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Nightmare798 on September 02, 2013, 08:16:33 pm
CA is based here so we are the master race of Total War and get it cheaper on Steam.

which is pretty strange, considering its digital distribution. if they needed to pack up discs and then ship them to different countries, higher cost for different countries would be understandable. but its a damn digital distribution...
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Leesin on September 02, 2013, 09:16:24 pm
which is pretty strange, considering its digital distribution. if they needed to pack up discs and then ship them to different countries, higher cost for different countries would be understandable. but its a damn digital distribution...

Yeah but you missed the part where we are master race and thus deserve to pay less.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Nightmare798 on September 02, 2013, 11:49:29 pm
Yeah but you missed the part where we are master race and thus deserve to pay less.

as much as n-a-z-i-s were in ww2, and look at how they ended up...
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: NuberT on September 03, 2013, 05:47:24 pm
totally going to buy it!


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Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Tovi on September 03, 2013, 10:57:21 pm
I'll pay only for mods. They are far better than original game ...  8-)
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Havoco on September 05, 2013, 09:19:45 pm
Notice how there's no blood or gore in this? Because they're going to make it a dlc later like shogun.



Ahhhh the magic world of AAA titles.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: [ptx] on September 05, 2013, 09:25:25 pm
There has never really been any gore in any TW games?
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Havoco on September 05, 2013, 09:33:54 pm
There hasn't been but fact is they could've easily added it since shogun but they're still choosing to make it a dlc
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 05, 2013, 10:32:50 pm
People demand better games every year, they demand improvements in graphics, mechanics, physics and everything else, yet expect to carry on paying exactly the same price.  CA put a lot of work and effort into their games and have a pretty big dev team working on them.  Furthermore with a solid base game there is nothing that makes you buy the dlc other than your own weak will or created sense of need.  Only think i brought for shogun was Fall of the samurai and I have nearly 200hrs of play from that.  If you don't want to pay full price wait 6 months and it will likely be on sale, if you can't afford it on release then learn some patience.

Committing yourself to pirate the base game now, before its released is lame arse move.

Demanding better games doesn't mean that it costs exponentially more to make Rome 2 versus Shogun. 

There's no defending companies releasing DLC on day one of a game launch.  Or piece mealing a game into DLC components.  I wish more people pirated these types of game models or just outright didn't buy/play them.  The publishers would get the hint pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Taser on September 05, 2013, 11:29:32 pm
Demanding better games doesn't mean that it costs exponentially more to make Rome 2 versus Shogun. 

There's no defending companies releasing DLC on day one of a game launch.  Or piece mealing a game into DLC components.  I wish more people pirated these types of game models or just outright didn't buy/play them.  The publishers would get the hint pretty quickly.

This.

No one is against dlc that they make after the game is released. The problem is when they haven't even released the game and had a free dlc just for PREORDERING the game. Holy fuck. They had dlc for the game before it was even out.

Come on man. That's not something you should be defending.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Oberyn on September 06, 2013, 11:59:29 am
I encourage anyone that hasn't paid for it and wants to check it out to just pirate the shit out of it. Or wait a year or two until it's actually worth it's price, which will have dropped to something more reasonable, for a lot more worth, especially the potential mods that actually make the game playable and/or enjoyable.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on September 06, 2013, 12:05:02 pm
How to win any battle against AI on Normal as Rome (don't worry, the AI will never field an army like the one in the scenario)

Step 1: Recruit 19 Hastati or better.
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Step 2: Deploy, don't really bother with how you do it.
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Step 3: March forward and attack.
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Step 4: Blob
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Step 5: Win
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Any variations to this tactic will probably improve the results. Have fun playing the game, guys!
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: EponiCo on September 06, 2013, 09:12:39 pm
I don't really get the logic behind "it's shit so (I) pirate it". That's like going to the supermarket to steal some chocolate chip cookies you loathe.
Even if you are making up something about "punishing" them the message you give them is this:
Everyone loves those cookies. But we need to invest more into protection.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 06, 2013, 09:18:39 pm
Your analogy would be more apt if it was cake that we do like, and the frosting was sold separately. 

You're not quite the heavy weight you think you are when it comes to logic, I'd recommend you post cat pictures until you get better at the internet.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: EponiCo on September 06, 2013, 10:22:12 pm
Yeah, I bet there'd be great outrage if a cake was sold with multiple optional icings. I've heard there's even cars nowadays with optional components for extra charge. How can that even be.
In the end it is very simple. You can decide yourself what DLCs you'd want and calculate how high the total price is.
The best you can say then that it's overpriced but you'd still want to have it. Oh, I can understand pirating it then, but don't go into a fury about how righteous you are. And that's still ignoring you can get it on a steam sale sooner or later and it's only because you want it right now.
Besides you'd be one of the few who think it's good.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Nightmare798 on September 07, 2013, 12:15:51 pm
I don't really get the logic behind "it's shit so (I) pirate it". That's like going to the supermarket to steal some chocolate chip cookies you loathe.
Even if you are making up something about "punishing" them the message you give them is this:
Everyone loves those cookies. But we need to invest more into protection.

chocolate chip cookies, I LOATHE YEE!!!
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Banok on September 08, 2013, 09:41:19 am
well don't I feel retarded now.

I bought a copy but am now torrenting a pirate copy. why?
a) to play DLC which I didnt get even tho I pre-ordered.
b) because cannot play over actual lan with legit copy. see here (http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/84586-Impossible-to-play-over-LAN-with-legit-copy)

unlike everyone else I do actually like this game and think it has great potential. however considering the state it released in, really have no idea why I bought it at release, when I could just purate and wait until price drops and bugs are fixed.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Tibe on September 11, 2013, 06:46:26 pm
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So let me get this straight. Im not the only one who noticed that the AI never really wields a even halfdescent army on the campaignmap? Shiiieeet. And all this time I thought it was me, cause I played on medium now and it was still supereasy.

Ofcourse I wouldnt be as mean as Frank thou. Going totally berserker on a game has a point when the devs go greedy and lazy. In Rome 2s case, im quessing they just made a lot of shit decisions that seemed good on paper + other retarded bugs happened.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Molly on September 11, 2013, 06:58:00 pm
So let me get this straight. Im not the only one who noticed that the AI never really wields a even halfdescent army on the campaignmap? Shiiieeet. And all this time I thought it was me, cause I played on medium now and it was still supereasy.

Ofcourse I wouldnt be as mean as Frank thou. Going totally berserker on a game has a point when the devs go greedy and lazy. In Rome 2s case, im quessing they just made a lot of shit decisions that seemed good on paper + other retarded bugs happened.
My personal guess is that rather the publisher SEGA is to blame for the unfinished state of the game than the developer.

Discussing design decisions is a complete different thing. I've read a comment on the CA forum which made a pretty good cut between bugs/glitches (which happen to every game), design decisions and full-blown fuck ups like the AI (:D).
I think Rome 2 can be a very good Total War game IF they keep working on it. That is the frustrating part tho. I haven't paid full price luckily but still I am very disappointed that the game I was awaiting wasn't delievered even closely. It's the disappointment that weighs on everyone, I guess.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Nightmare798 on September 13, 2013, 09:29:21 pm
well don't I feel retarded now.

I bought a copy but am now torrenting a pirate copy. why?
a) to play DLC which I didnt get even tho I pre-ordered.
b) because cannot play over actual lan with legit copy. see here (http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/84586-Impossible-to-play-over-LAN-with-legit-copy)

unlike everyone else I do actually like this game and think it has great potential. however considering the state it released in, really have no idea why I bought it at release, when I could just purate and wait until price drops and bugs are fixed.

makes me wonder if beta-testing actually exists, especially considering some games. [looking at you dark souls]
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Materia on October 06, 2013, 02:08:08 pm
Who remember times, where games had really FREE content? The Elder Scrolls Morrowind for example. Back then in the 90ties, and in the beginning of XXI century, games had mod support. Now, there is hardly any mod support, because why let people mess with games, create stuff, and release it for free? When developers can do the same thing, and then charge for it!

Also the DLshits. There are people that digg deep in the files, and DLshits are often there. You pay for something that you already have.

Battlefield 4 is not yet released, but 5 DLshits are already announced, and they even know what will be the content.

I keep buying less, and less games, and I believe that one day, I will just stop playing. I often go bak to the old games.. somehow they give so much pleasure, unlike todays mass production a'la Call of Duty.

I myself oppose DLshits, have not bought any, and if we ever want to change something, the words, have to be followed by the deeds.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 06, 2013, 09:40:49 pm
Battlefield 4 is not yet released, but 5 DLshits are already announced, and they even know what will be the content.

Maps, and pay to own guns, rather than unlock them. Mostly aesthetic stuff, save for the maps. What they did for 3...
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 07, 2013, 09:59:36 am
I hate how they just take out good components / extra missions out of a game and put them as DLCs ....
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 09, 2013, 12:45:59 pm
I was right! I WAS FUCKING RIGHT! HA! And I missed the most important part, "they will pull a TW Empire."

Bunch mongoloid bafoons.

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Boy did I fucking call this. I just wish I had done it publicly on youtube, and got a million hits so I could dance around with a "I FUCKING TOLD YOU DO" T Shirt on.

I went to a buddies house 3 days after release and by turn 50 had spain balls deep in swarthy Italian types, and Greece completely wrecked.

CA has made a habit of releasing with terrible AI. I would play a game with Rome 1 graphics if it had amazing AI. Why don't they get that.

I they are beholden to their marketing gods but ffs, stand up and protest it just makes them looks like cowards and cunts.

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If you want to see the future of gaming. It's shit like Star Citizen - no marketing depart, just peeps making games for other peeps that want to play said game and are willing to bank roll it. It's got huge holes and isn't accessible to all but it's a start, it's something and even if it doesn't become the dominant model if it can just show the fuck stained taint wanks that they are wrong, so fucking wrong then it's a win.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Hirlok on October 09, 2013, 03:26:57 pm
procedere as usual: grab an unofficial copy (base Rome II and Greek States DLC are available and work great with the first two patches, well "great" for a total war game of usual bugginess...), play for some time, decide if it is worth keeping, then buy or not.

So far I am not impressed (mostly because AI sucks and graphics are poorly programmed and put insane strain on the computer for little result), keep playing it here and there, but until now I prefer Medieval II with several mods. (which I purchased btw - after several months).

So not going to purchase this until it shows up on gog.com at a decent price (which it never will, because they love their "antipiracy stuff" at CA, LOL). Or when some really stunning mods show up. Middle Earth on Rome II engine might be worth it.

P.S.: oh, and YES, fucking hate that DLC policy as well that most game publishers have adopted. Good to see that a few - like the Witcher guys - take a different approach. Happily churned out some money for both of them Witcher games. Just hoping Witcher 3 does not get even more "console-like"...
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Yazid on November 24, 2013, 09:25:31 pm
not worth pirating.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Vovka on November 25, 2013, 09:28:08 am
I do not remember that in the last couple of years has been released at least one game, only products
that's the difference between games of the 90s and those that they offer to us today

in 90s i played to the end like 99% of games
after 2004 I was only interested in playing till the end in Game of Thrones RPG (but only final part for 1 hero  :P) 
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Cyber on November 26, 2013, 12:15:04 pm
The way I look at pirating in general is ... if you don't like the product, don't buy it. Maybe it's a bit of a simplistic perspective but  it's not like when Nissan puts out a shitty car or Nokia puts out a bad phone model it gives you the right to go and steal it because it doesn't match your expectations, you just don't buy it. You may argue that piracy is a victimless crime but that's not really the case, I'm sure that for many people if the option to pirate would be unavailable they might buy the product.

Now I admit I occasionally pirate stuff as well but trying to morally justify it and act like it's some noble thing seems just silly to me. (there are some exceptions I guess)
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Butan on November 26, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
Pirating is anonymous mass robbery, quite similar to pillages in period of anarchy: so easy to get out with having everything you want for free  :P
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Vovka on November 26, 2013, 02:01:44 pm
The way I look at pirating in general is ... if you don't like the product, don't buy it. Maybe it's a bit of a simplistic perspective but  it's not like when Nissan puts out a shitty car or Nokia puts out a bad phone model it gives you the right to go and steal it because it doesn't match your expectations, you just don't buy it. You may argue that piracy is a victimless crime but that's not really the case, I'm sure that for many people if the option to pirate would be unavailable they might buy the product.

Now I admit I occasionally pirate stuff as well but trying to morally justify it and act like it's some noble thing seems just silly to me. (there are some exceptions I guess)



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Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Cyber on November 26, 2013, 02:15:37 pm


----------------1---------------------             ------------------------2-------------------------------                  ---------------------------------------3---------------------------------------------------
---------Nissan for free------------            -------------Same nissan for cost price+5$-------                ----------Same Nissan for cost price+5$+10000$ for Board directory---------
 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: :twisted:              :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P                  -----------------------------------cyber the nice guy----------------------------
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If you don't think it's worth the price you don't break into the car dealership and steal it, you just don't buy it, just like I did with Rome II.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Xant on November 26, 2013, 02:52:07 pm
The way I look at pirating in general is ... if you don't like the product, don't buy it. Maybe it's a bit of a simplistic perspective but  it's not like when Nissan puts out a shitty car or Nokia puts out a bad phone model it gives you the right to go and steal it because it doesn't match your expectations, you just don't buy it. You may argue that piracy is a victimless crime but that's not really the case, I'm sure that for many people if the option to pirate would be unavailable they might buy the product.

Now I admit I occasionally pirate stuff as well but trying to morally justify it and act like it's some noble thing seems just silly to me. (there are some exceptions I guess)
Pirating isn't analogous to any kind of physical theft, because you are not stealing anything from anyone, you are copying it.
If you don't think it's worth the price you don't break into the car dealership and steal it, you just don't buy it, just like I did with Rome II.
Or.. if you don't think it's worth the price, you pirate it?
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Cyber on November 26, 2013, 03:26:08 pm
Pirating isn't analogous to any kind of physical theft, because you are not stealing anything from anyone, you are copying it. Or.. if you don't think it's worth the price, you pirate it?

Don't you think that some people if they didn't have the option to pirate the game available might buy it which cuts direcctly into the developer/publisher or whoever income.  I know I have pirated some games where if didn't have that option I would have bought the game. I satisfied my wish to play their game by pirating it instead of perhaps eventually paying for it which results in them losing money in a very real way. They are not offering a "physical" product, they make money from our desire to play the game and if we already fulfill it with piracy then they obviously lose potential customers and money. Now yes I do admit that it's not as bad as stealing a car from someone but I still don't think you can morally justify it, then again I also still do it because I'm a jerk.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Xant on November 26, 2013, 04:21:01 pm
Some people would have, but some wouldn't. If someone who wouldn't buy Rome 2 even if he couldn't pirate it pirates it, it is a victimless crime.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Turboflex on November 27, 2013, 12:31:19 am
I haven't pirated a video game for like 10 years but feel tempted to pirate this out of principal. seriously fuck CA
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Siiem on November 27, 2013, 05:39:39 pm
I'm going to download it and hand out free DVDs in the street. I'm not going to bother playing it though.

But you you are going to put an effort into the product, in silly more time consuming way.

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Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Elemental on December 11, 2013, 04:46:07 am
Game developers ruin the gaming experience when they add DLC like this...
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Adamar on December 11, 2013, 06:04:44 am
I can say, this is the last time I buy a TW game without pirating it first.
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Dalfador on December 12, 2013, 11:34:47 pm
Hey yeah we're releasing the game, and in 3 weeks we'll release this add on that was prepared before hand but we're going to make it separate to leech more money from you.

thanks!
Title: Re: Pirating Rome II (Because fuck you CA)
Post by: Butan on December 12, 2013, 11:47:49 pm
Hey yeah we're releasing the game, and in 3 weeks we'll release this add on that was prepared before hand but we're going to make it separate to leech more money from you.

thanks!

Pretty much, or at least it was planned to be ready to sell (and not ready to release) at around Christmas.

The release dates have meanings, it means the base game could have been planned to be released in Q1 or Q2 2014, but others with more influence decided to speed things up to sell it just before next gen console/christmas/new year.


Give the game 3 or 6 more months and it will be in the state it should have been at release : working and good. Atm, if you play without mods you're losing your time.