Who's next, poor Artem?
Edit: I've never seen Ivani4 killing anyone on purpose. He does teamhit sometimes but that's because he's big and stronk. Just stay away from him and everything will be fine :D
Noob admins.. :)
Only tried to "save" him
Acctually he has been known to have a rather short fuse. Piss him off abit and he will tk you on purpose. It does happen from time to time. We just let it slide mostly cause we love Ivan. Unlucky for him, this time he killed some german nerd whose K/D got slightly touched. :rolleyes:
I thank for good words, but the embittered and envious people should transfer treatment in psychiatry as game already destroys their brain. Don't lose sense of humour! The smile will make this game more attractive. Hatred and false commitment to principles - kill game. It is not necessary to become loyal, it is enough to have a good time! Forgive for very bad language of England, but I really respect you :)
I thank for good words, but the embittered and envious people should transfer treatment in psychiatry as game already destroys their brain. Don't lose sense of humour! The smile will make this game more attractive. Hatred and false commitment to principles - kill game. It is not necessary to become loyal, it is enough to have a good time! Forgive for very bad language of England, but I really respect you :)Anyone else hearing glorious Red Army music when reading this?
It's payback time.(click to show/hide)
How strange, an admin does his job and gets shat on from everywhere by the mighty forum warriors...
Deserved ban, with 4 teamhits in a row, 2 or 3 could (very doubtfully though) be an accident, but 4, not stopping until dieler was dead, seems pretty clear to me.
Where have I seen this before? Oh yes, this lovely community...
QQ moar, pls (and bring the minuses on for not jumping on the bandwagon).
How strange, an admin does his job and gets shat on from everywhere by the mighty forum warriors...
Deserved ban, with 4 teamhits in a row, 2 or 3 could (very doubtfully though) be an accident, but 4, not stopping until dieler was dead, seems pretty clear to me.
Where have I seen this before? Oh yes, this lovely community...
QQ moar, pls (and bring the minuses on for not jumping on the bandwagon).
And Dieler banned for one day for teamwounding.
ivani4 banned for two days for teamkilling.
Dieler is 16 years old or something like that, from what I remember. He could be trolling Ivan, I've witnessed such behavior from Dieler before.He might very well have provoked him, I do not know, and I think noone here does either (bring the proof if you do, please), and since there is no proof, we cannot punish him for whatever we believe he might have done.
And admin you're talking about isn't playing on battle servers at all (at least he wasn't while I was active) but he's always too eager to bring justice to battle offenders. There's more than enough admins active on forums, someone will deal with request, it doesn't have to be Erzengel every time. Active admins in game, now that was always an issue...
Also, I've never seen Ivani4 being mad to anyone who's speaking english. If you piss him off by being rude while speaking russian, that's another thing.
Dieler is 16 years old or something like that, from what I remember. He could be trolling Ivan, I've witnessed such behavior from Dieler before.
And admin you're talking about isn't playing on battle servers at all (at least he wasn't while I was active) but he's always too eager to bring justice to battle offenders. There's more than enough admins active on forums, someone will deal with request, it doesn't have to be Erzengel every time. Active admins in game, now that was always an issue...
Also, I've never seen Ivani4 being mad to anyone who's speaking english. If you piss him off by being rude while speaking russian, that's another thing.
Does anyone see a problem here?
Different crime, different time, an attempted murder is not the same as a commited murder. (teamWOUND vs teamKILL). Dieler stops before killing the guy, ivani does not.
He might very well have provoked him, I do not know, and I think noone here does either (bring the proof if you do, please), and since there is no proof, we cannot punish him for whatever we believe he might have done.
I am quite sure that if new facts are brought forward, the decision will be altered, as it has so many times in the past.
Also, (since you insist on comparing them), in the ban request against Dieler, alec might have bumped him a few times and taken the kill this way, causing the teamattacks from dieler.
Does Dieler have a history of bans for this reason? I do not know if he does.
How is a teamkill different depending on whether it happens on siege or battle? Why should a "siege admin" not get into moderating battle threads? I thought the rules were the same in both servers.
I am actually playing battle quite often. What are you still doing here by the way?
FREE IVANI!(click to show/hide)
This dude is fucking awesome! Wants to burn the whole system so he could be the king of the system. Leshma on a "noble" crusade again?(click to show/hide)
I've been "chosen" to guard The Wall so I'm a bit bitter these days. Don't mind me.
Better that than being in Winterfell, and dying with the rest.
Alexjei is a cool dude, I doubt he provoked Dieler. I know that for a fact because I've been rude (quite obnoxious tbh) to Alexjei couple of times and he was very calm and pleasant despite that (I have my own quirks, most people who know me are familiar with this).
@Erzengel: I'm sorry if you find my post offensive, but I was just pointing a fact that you have delivered more bans based on screenshots than actual ingame bans. And you're playing on siege, which means you can justify banning someone every 30 seconds.
I've been "chosen" to guard The Wall so I'm a bit bitter these days. Don't mind me.
No offense to any parties but Erzengel needs to calm down with giving lengthy bans to people who aren't Mion or Hemmoroid.
Ouh, how are one and two days lenghty bans (especially for people who were already banned for it before)? Bans that are much shorter than one day wouldn't affect most people at all. If you can't live one or two days without one video game, you probably have some serious problems. There also would be not deterrence at all. Besides that, it is quite interesting that most of the time, the people complaying about a ban are not the ones that actually got banned. :wink:Not talking this particular case, besides me considering it silly that Dieler gets a smaller ban than Ivani, but you in general give a bit to long bans (and more importantly, don't refer them to the rules and unban them if they're somewhat new and don't have a ban record) to newer people imo.
you in general give a bit to long bans
If you can't live one or two days without one video game, you probably have some serious problems.
You are North of the wall already. A white walker that keeps coming back from time to time :D.
Take two days break yourself and tell us how it was :wink:
Und du wirst uns jetzt allen erklären, wo der Zusammenhang zwischen diesen Bans und deren Aufhebung liegt
I don't get the connection between Alex and DIelers ban request, seems totally idiotic to remove the bans imo.
Apart from that this stupid hate on admins because they do their job is embarrassing.
Ivani4 is a legend, loved him from thze first moment I played cRPG (On siege with his rusty scale armor and Armet if I remember it right)
But rules apply for everyone and should so.
Both players agreed to lift the ban, so where is the problem? :P Isn't this the best solution for everybody? Drama solved without too many feelings hurt. :wink:Because it wasn't Ivani4 requesting a ban on Dieler Alexjei should have a say (he's a decent guy and would probably say yes anyhow).
Wenn das meine Frage beantworten soll, dann werden ich und mein Kumpel jetzt mal eben schnell wie die Blöden alles in unserem Team umbringen und uns dann nachher gegenseitig entbannen, um dem stressgeplagten und Burn-out gefährdeten Admin unnötige Arbeit zu ersparen.
Because it wasn't Ivani4 requesting a ban on Dieler Alexjei should have a say (he's a decent guy and would probably say yes anyhow).
So if I get it right I can tk a friend on the servers and when I get banned can unban myself by him agreeing on unbanning me?
Seems nice, might test it out.
If all players involved agree that no ban is needed, you will get unbanned. Already did this several times in the past.
Oh and wayyyyyne you don't have to downvote all of my post. It is not my fault that you are not the most intelligent out there. :P
Ich verstehe überhaupt nicht, wie man auch nur auf die Idee kommen kann die Strafe für 2 Leute auszusetzen, nur weil sie sich gegenseitig die Absolution erteilt haben und weil man Angst vor den Reaktionen und verletzten Gefühlen hat.
Und den Vergleich den ich gemacht habe passt. Wie ist das mit 2 Verbrechern, die beide aus der Haft entlassen werden, weil sie sich über die Haftbedingungen beschweren und vom jeweils anderen sagen "passt schon. Macht eh ü-ber-haupt nichts". Deiner Logik nach ist das DIE Lösung, weil hey, dann heulen die beiden doch nicht rum und gegenseitig verziehen haben sie sich doch auch, oder?
No admin for Erzengel!!!
Free ivani4!!
I bet cmp will shut this thread down before Erzengel manages to dig even deeper hole for himself. He's almost good as me at it :lol:
We are not talking about criminals here. This is only a game, in which two online characters were teamattacked/teamkilled once. There is no need to punish somebody for a "greater justice". Nobody was really hurt. It is always the best, if players can solve their conflicts without a ban. If I was afraid of bad reactions, I wouldn't have answered the ban request at all. I knew how popular ivani4 is and that there most likely would be a shitstorm.
People in this game are always complaining, no matter what you do.
He is already unbanned sweetheart. :P
Please explain this a little bit further. :rolleyes: I am not seeing how I am digging a hole for myself.
Beispiele sind immer austauschbar. Die Häfltinge genau so.
Du bist viel zu willkürlich als Admin. Du lässt sowohl Leute wie bei Dieler und Ivani davonkommen, aber auch irgendeinen anderen Koffer, weil der Ersteller des Banthreads gegen ihn sich doch noch umentschieden hat ihn nicht gebannt haben zu wollen. Gleichzeitig spielst du bei einem Fall wie DKG, wo mal ausnahmsweise nicht der Spielfluss gestört wurde, die Sittenpolizei und drohst (oder tust es sogar?) mit Bans weil sie sich im Forum dir nicht gefällig geäußert haben.
Bei Dieler lass ich es mir ja noch einreden, dass er nicht gebannt wird, weil das sein erstes Vergehen ist. Bei Ivani4 ist es ja aber offenkundig nicht das erste Mal und der Beliebtheitsbonus den er genießt hat ihn schon vor Bans bewahrt weil die Leute einfach nachsichtiger mit ihm sind (dir offensichtlich miteingeschlossen)
When someone doesn't agree with you, you offend him (mildly, but it's still a offense). That works for some members of this fine community (cmp being finest example, but he's working so hard on this mod he do whatever he wants).
And I'm not talking about me at all. About that thing from the past, I think you made haste judgement. I bet you don't spend more than 5 seconds looking at ban request before you ban someone. You're too eager to do it and it shows in the ban section where more than 80% of ban requests are resolved by you. Someone might call it efficiency but I call it sloppy work and trying to look better in the eyes of the overlords. After all, you're a moderately new player in this mod. I'm not one of the "old crones" either but still have more mileage than you'll ever will. I can understand why are you like that, but that doesn't mean I approve such behavior.
He bans so much because we other admins cba to solve that many ban requests... It's not always that easy and straight forward u know. Very time consuming in some cases.