Bunch of alts, yeah. Personally i wish there were more big clans, but i guess its not easy to recruit people nowadays, most people are already in clans... Also we did do strat for a while.
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Deserters active member count is around 10 i think and mercs totally guessing like 18.
Panos just jelly his clan is not as cool as ours.
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there there panos, it's going to be ok
GO is kinda a mix germans russians and polishalso Turks, Ukrainians and Belarusians
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I know that Deserters and Mercs play strat, but you play as one faction, so I don`t think you need more members.
And you Byz guys, don`t even play strat... I don`t get it.
Am I the only one here that believes that mass recruiting fucks up the game??
Thank god you pointed that out, please recruit me guysYea, no greeks. Dont want you destorying our economy now do we.
You are partly right Panos, mass recruiting fucks up the game for the rest. But what are you gonna do, certainly a butthurt thread like so many out there already won't help anyhow.
also Turks, Ukrainians and Belarusians
about the numbers: I don't know 1/3 of our players and 1/2 or even more are inactive
they should make reset of ladder once per year or half year to see correct numbers
Well, Panos isn't that far off the truth. There used to be way more little clans which made the whole community a lot more interesting.
My guess is that the multiplier xp we have now kinda works against a high number of smaller clans. "Let's just all group up and roll x5 all day" is the common mindset today. It was different with the proximity xp. There it didn't matter that much...
Banner with high numbers is way more important these days.
...and funny how people still fail to link images properly.(click to show/hide)
I dont think he gets why some clans are more popular than others. These 3 are more popular cause they work. Most clans are only made so that the leader can show off his epeen saying "i haz some authorothay".lol
Also in strat working your arse off for some shit clan that has crap leadership and can only get fiefs by random ninjaing, is pointless and sad.
We do that manually *cough*Ah yes German ordung :D Probably our leaders have more important work to do :P
and eh panos :lol:
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The only problem with big clans is that it stops C-rpg being competitive. Not at a big level I mean just between the clans. All you see now on eu1 is Byz vs Mercs and as for tournaments there has only been 1 clan torny since I started playing this.
... but but that dosen't change fact that you are most activewhine...person on forum that ask for all kind (stupid or not) changes
Panos, you've taken a liking to minusing all my opinions lately. I don't get it why you get so angry when someone says what they think in these forums. Didn't you get banned on several ocassions claiming liberty of speech?
You go way too fast, you complain about everything. Nerf this, buff that, make amends, fix that, new patch now, clans are fucked up... etc. Chill man, you've just come back from banlidays, and now you are stirring things up again.
[...]Yea, they are hilarious. I actually enjoy his comments quite a lot from the entertainment perspective :D
P.S - I`m looking forward for Paul`s smartass post.
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I've seen Panos around with my old friendg.. I mean Byzantium banner.
when do you ever see "Mercs are recruiting today, Join Now!!!!" or "Byz are recruiting today, Join Now!!!!", the answer is never.
IF people want to join a big clan it is their own choice, they shouldn't be forced to apply to the smaller clans
What if there was a sudden mass joining of your clan panos, would you turn away those players who top the scoreboards or generally a nice guy?
That's just bullshit. You mean Byz and Mercs are some of the only clans who's members (even then just a portion of them) consistently top the scoreboards when they are on. That is true whether there are 10 in a server or just 2 of them. And obviously it's not limited to these 2 clans. Deserters, Greys, DRZ, Fallen, Templars, Huscarls, Ninjas, Kapikulu and many other clans come on EU1 with 5 or more players, and they also have players that consistently top scoreboards. It is actually relatively rare when the server turns into a grudgematch between Byz and Mercs, and even then it's only noticeable because they are topping the scoreboards. The important factor here is that this happens because of gear/levels, skill and general teamwork, not because of mass zerg recruitment. Mass zerg recruitment has never been a factor in how well a clan does on EU1, except perhaps in a negative way.
I don't know how Byz go about recruitment and stuff, but I find it hilarious that after being insulted as "elitist" and arrogant since the start of Mercs because of recruitment policies suddenly we are zerg recruiting dickbags, even though the same policy remains and there is a minimum requirement of "skill" before any player is approached for recruitment. I guess crpg players are just better on average now, compared to a couple of years ago?
What makes you think there is even 20 active members in Mercs, Byz or Deserters? Have you ever seen 20 of them in one server?
tldr; but I was mainly taking about tournaments hence why I said competitive. So it's not bullshit as i'm correct only 1 torny has been made for clans.
Here Panos,full byzantium member list. 65 people,~10 people are core and play at least once a week,10 more play at least once a month,rest of the clannies probably will never come back to game. Rest of the "members" in byzantium are alts or stf characters. I have ~5 alts.everyday online and im not in the list(click to show/hide)
At the same time no, but in random periods of a day yes.
If my clan had reached 20 members, yes I would reject applicants.
Alts can make a clan seem more active than it really is though, haven't played on my main for 3 gens atleast :|What does it matter if you play with you main or alt if you play with your clans banner? Also I think theres only one char/member in the member count.
Really, you honestly think that?
I can't speak for all players, but I from what I've seen, most do it cause like easy x5.
Complete Lies Panos
And honestly i think people join big clans because there is no inactivity, i left the Templars for this reason
Alts can make a clan seem more active than it really is though, haven't played on my main for 3 gens atleast :|
If my clan had reached 20 members, yes I would reject applicants, topping the scoreboard was never a factor for me in either joining a clan or accepting new members.When your clan has reached 20 members, 15 of those will probably be already inactive, you won't kick them as you liked them and hope they return, so you recruit another 15 and so on.. sry for that grammer mess^^
It`s only natural that new players would want to join a big clan, I myself would like to play with Gurni or Muffin or Chase or Tyr at my side and wear the same banner with them, but I don`t. Because I look at the big picture, quality over quantity.but.. but... this is quality
What does it matter if you play with you main or alt if you play with your clans banner? Also I think theres only one char/member in the member count.
Panos, It's really nice you say I whine like a bitch at strat battles because I never talk, or rarely. My voice sounds akwaard with my mic, besides most of the time I have nothing important or non-retarded to say. You sure the whiny bitch isn't Tiberius? :|
Bobby's a cool guy. He makes 1+ mistakes per word, but he's a good teammate and teamplay with him usually ends up great.
Also you can get to know from the list that Nordmen have 72 members... Well, we are pretty much inactive.
I never said he`s a bad guy, I like him aswell, but that doesnt change the facts, that longsword is op and his bitchiness on strat battles!!Longsword didn't need that buff that it received in that big patch when axes got +3 dmg and stuff, I agree, but you really shouldn't say anything about other people bitching ^^
For real, Panos giving advice on how to manage a clan?
Honestly I would say that Mercs has 40 active members, the other 70 are inactive...... (or banner leechers)
When you reach 30 members panos, you will most likely find yourself having 5 active and 5 playing sporadically. Numbers from the ladder mean nothing to be honest. I am happy with the amount of Mercs at the moment. We usually have 5 people on at most times, so you always have someone to play with whatever time you come online and at peak times we can roll on the server with 10-15 players which is enjoyable.
That may be different to how you want your clan to be, but it is how we like it.
Last I heard we have democracy, and in democracy everyone is free to express his opinion, right or wrong.
everyday online and im not in the listDon't blame me,i downloaded this from byzantium member list on nditions forum.
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Complete Lies Panos
And honestly i think people join big clans because there is no inactivity, i left the Templars for this reason
lolPoint made. Il be quiet. :D
You obviously have no clue how Deserters were founded in the first place, do you? :D
Don't blame me,i downloaded this from byzantium member list on nditions forum.:cry:
You are not on the list. :?
i think the last person to be accepted into the Mercs was Woodland and that was about 3 weeks ago. (but we let those who we like banner Leech) Plus Mercs do not recruit we Invite
What makes you think there is even 20 active members in Mercs, Byz or Deserters? Have you ever seen 20 of them in one server?I have seen about 25 on at the same time of both Byzantium and Mercs. That is when teamspeak becomes incomprehensible though. What is most staggering though is the number of Mercs at unholy hours. Playing 20 vs 20 at noon, 9 Mercs on one team, x1 whoop whoop.
Pretty sure you left cos alpha took away your fief, then you got all mad.
I don't believe any large clans intentionally mass recruit in order to unbalance servers or anything. They simply have no reason to deny people from playing with them, and players want to be part of big clans and fight on the side of their heroes.
alts mate, alts.It's funny cause alts don't count in that calculation of members, gg.
Sometimes standing for what you believe means standing alone.You call me anti-social, well you're fucking right!
Why does every Merc, Deserter and Byz here want to underestimate the amount of active players in their clans?
Anyway you can't blame people if they want to join in a big clan, cause there are quite a few clans that provide some company to play with most of the day. Only thing that I wondered was when half the Nords left for Byzantium, but that's not my business.
What does it matter if you play with you main or alt if you play with your clans banner? Also I think theres only one char/member in the member count.
I for one, still play this crap, 4 alts and a main, I even got invited to several of these factions, but simply cba.
Basically we got tired of all the strat bullshit (most of us even got tired of cRPG overall), so players that still play this mod and that aren't, let's say, part of the "core" from old Sea Raiders/VRN, obviously started to leave and get an active faction. Some failed to realize we're a multi-gaming community, not cRPG only.
When they looked for a faction, instantly popped up the Byz/GO/HRE/Fallen/Mercs holy pentacle, being either Byz the best choice for Battle players and either GO or HRE for siege oriented players.
I for one, still play this crap, 4 alts and a main, I even got invited to several of these factions, but simply cba. I like my nord brothers too much. :oops:
I'd rather be a lone wolf if nordmen ceased to exist as the community it is.
...and yet they haven't made you an admin.......disgrace, I say........
...and yet they haven't made you an admin.......disgrace, I say........
I'm actually an admin in a server that's constantly full, but I understand that the urge to shitpost in every possible thread is of the utmost urgency for such a narrow minded gentleman as thyself. You must be the soul of every party! :wink:
I informally have been invited into wolves (long ago) and HRE (yesterday). I feel so proud
I informally have been invited into wolves (long ago) and HRE (yesterday). I feel so proudwell, where is your application than?