Well 50,000 seconds would be about 13 hours, and as an outside merc, I didn't think the war was stale or boring...most of my fun this strat has come from fighting in occitan vs VE battles (maybe not most, but probably close to half)Well Hiding behind bugged castle walls will always be fun for the defenders.
The Hounds of Chulainn will be lifting the desert trade blockade and honoring a self imposed ceasefire with the Occitans today. Due to our newly formed independence and neutrality we would like to negotiate an official end of conflict with our long time enemies the Occitans and their allies. To be honest the war with Occitan has been the most stale, boring, lifeless experience we have ever encountered in our 2+ years of doing crpg strategus and almost made us quit due to the absolute boring atmosphere they have created. I beg that Occitans take our ceasefire and just go away for rest of this strat. For real, please just go away. You're not fun to fight or Role play with so I'm taking my toys and going elsewhere. If you want to continue this pointless and obviously boring war, be my guest. Otherwise let the bells ring for two days straight in honor of the tens of thousands of men that have fallen in this less than fun war and enjoy your peace like me. ~BoneSaw the Cruel Drunktldr version = "We're tired of losing"
Well Hiding behind bugged castle walls will always be fun for the defenders.
I am just happy that i dont have to attack F**K**G weyyah castle again. that castle is so tough to take.
tldr version = "We're tired of losing"It wasn't our clan creating the experience that was lifeless, we were not in charge of the battles.
I am all for peace...but your "stale, boring, lifeless experience" reflects the organization and leadership of your clan not ours.
I must say that from the perspective of someone that almost always merc'd for Occitan (nothing against HoC, simply enjoyed their style of leadership a bit more) this war was really enjoyable.I'm sure it's real fun not having to deal with a castle that completely regarrisons itself after each battle with it's own troops and our gear. Sitting on a wall with a maul. Shooting a xbow. Meanwhile, we are stuck with not being able to spawn contruction sites for two of our sieges.
You guys should probably attack Fimbulvetr so you have people of equal skill to fight, it must be boring continually fighting players that outclass you. Condolences.
Try attacking Rindyar Castle...there's only one "low" wall, and the defenders can easily put a ladder across the top and block the attackers from putting up ladders to the wall.
So.... you attacked occitan, failed to destroy them for 4 months, and are now giving up because they're defending well. That's what you meant when you said "we're tired of this boring and lifeless war".You failed to read my post
For the record, that was not done with intention to block your ladders but was put up to allow access to turrets (the large keep turret doesn't have a staircase inside for roof access). We didn't even find out that was a major issue for you until after.
But yeah I don't find that Occitan castle to be too bad compared to many castles, although it does get very tedious fighting the same map over and over. The devs should really add a "siege camp" feature where you can starve out castles that have like 10k troops inside and force them to breakout it would make strat more dynamic cuz right now it's too stacked for defenders.
On fair grounds in a field battle, we have won every single battle so far in such cases.
In fact, I remember taking a plate army down with tribal warrior outfits and being outnumbered.
You failed to read my post
For the record, that was not done with intention to block your ladders but was put up to allow access to turrets (the large keep turret doesn't have a staircase inside for roof access). We didn't even find out that was a major issue for you until after.Yes Turboflex! No man can question your honor sir. What you said about siege camps would be marvelous mainly for small mapped castles like Weyyah, where defenders can shoot attackers from any range right from the get go destroying all equipment. I would've been happy with another 20 yards of map too!
But yeah I don't find that Occitan castle to be too bad compared to many castles, although it does get very tedious fighting the same map over and over. The devs should really add a "siege camp" feature where you can starve out castles that have like 10k troops inside and force them to breakout it would make strat more dynamic cuz right now it's too stacked for defenders.
Find me an even battle where the total sum of HoC kills/deaths surpasses a 1:1 kdr.My dad can beat up your dad.
1. All oure batles where commanded by people who aren't in HOC, not that we wanted to take the command, but certain people forces themselfs to lead the battles of HOC, and failed miserble
because this, we where considert as connon fodders by the other clans
Besides, HoC are the shield wall. Designed by the great chadz to not be KDR whores. I have entertained you long enough. Good day.
My dad can beat up your dad.but u know that u lose right ?
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=3435
Besides, HoC are the shield wall. Designed by the great chadz to not be KDR whores. I have entertained you long enough. Good day.
My dad can beat up your dad.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=3435
Besides, HoC are the shield wall. Designed by the great chadz to not be KDR whores. I have entertained you long enough. Good day.
neither does cav...
Besides, HoC are the shield wall.True. And I love myself some shield wall *remembers hoplite clan days*
1. Stereotypical bullshit merc answer of "I like their leadership more but really meaning I like easy defense mode" makes me cringe. tl:dr "I have no respect for this clan and want to make it public while I shout out how good I am off the castle walls."
True. And I love myself some shield wall *remembers hoplite clan days*It seems our enemies keep some of our true friends.
I don't know the inner workings over there or how close yall were, but did y'all really get called cannon fodder by your own alliance...?
Hypothetically, if I was HoC, and that happened, seriously: ALLIANCE = KAPUT
One of those, "Wait, what the hell just spilled out of your mouth about us... Fuck it boys, pack it up we're going home, and they can deal with this shit alone" type of moments.
So, I wish y'all better pastures to file your fangs upon. Great Hounds of Chulainn.
I'm risking myself every time I run through 10 enemies on the front line...high risk, high reward...ask my teammates if they appreciate hitting enemies that are on their backs...ask your pikers how many times they stop me from doing damage to their teammates. I have to be extremely careful, and even then, I'd say about 1/3 of the passes get me hooked on a pike or spear and my ass roasted on a spit.
You guys should probably attack Fimbulvetr so you have people of equal skill to fight, it must be boring continually fighting players that outclass you. Condolences.
I'm risking myself every time I run through 10 enemies on the front line...high risk, high reward...ask my teammates if they appreciate hitting enemies that are on their backs...ask your pikers how many times they stop me from doing damage to their teammates. I have to be extremely careful, and even then, I'd say about 1/3 of the passes get me hooked on a pike or spear and my ass roasted on a spit.I played a cav gen for strat recently and though I am certainly bad at cav and often did not break 1:1 I was able to break forward spawns and such with ease and smash enemy formations just as they engaged, I also was able to get a ton of kills to go with my ton of deaths, that would be meh if money was short but for those with lots of money they could afford my expenses and benefit from my destroying formations and gear while harassing enemies. As an xbow my kdr is away better but I get less kills and don't break equipment or smash formations or harass people (as much).
I don't know the inner workings over there or how close yall were, but did y'all really get called cannon fodder by your own alliance...?
Hypothetically, if I was HoC, and that happened, seriously: ALLIANCE = KAPUT
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To be honnest, i believe that certain people believed that HOC where there personal army, they hop in ts, and commanding what we have to do according them, but that is mine opinion allone
i left HOC and started a new clan because of this reason
I'm happy that HOC left VE and started a own faction
so NO, i don't believe we lost the war against Ocitan, but on the other side, why fight against an enemy that has infinite gold and troops
its just logic, leaving VE, and asking for a truce
and if occitan wants to fight further, i believe than this would be on the terms that HOC fits
Forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't VE big enough to trade profitably within its own empire? Or are those blue churburgs I see in every battle from Santa Claus? LCO certainly does not have unlimited gold and troops and by saying this you take away the credit they deserve for mantaining their empire on 2 fronts from 2 big enemies at a time of war.2 fronts? When is the last time FCC fought occitan? I know arowaine considers us his number one enemy but that doesn't mean we think the same way, we haven't had a real fight with occitan in months.
Part where i bite the bait: I can think of 5 HoC members who could beat you in vidya game
Forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't VE big enough to trade profitably within its own empire? Or are those blue churburgs I see in every battle from Santa Claus? LCO certainly does not have unlimited gold and troops and by saying this you take away the credit they deserve for mantaining their empire on 2 fronts from 2 big enemies at a time of war.
2 fronts? When is the last time FCC fought occitan? I know arowaine considers us his number one enemy but that doesn't mean we think the same way, we haven't had a real fight with occitan in months.
I can't think of any, then again I don't have dunning kruger glasses on unlike most of Fimulvetr and HoC. My KDRs speak for themselves and they iterate poetry of high value.
i think phantasmal were talking about film alliance and not you!
you are the one being paranoid more then me/kesh....matey stop making bad propaganda you are bad at it sir!
ps: we also figth you over New Ayyike 2 week ago :)
You fought fimbl? Didn't you just take over Hosp fiefs then take some old Hosp villages from population garrisons from your Frisian friends? Sorry if missed something and you did actually fight fimbl.
Anyway you can't blame me for a bit of paranoia arowaine... You do actively work against us after all, even though most of us like occitan and many even merced for you.
yeah all my hate is toward kesh sorry for fcc i did apologize already but since kesh is the one in charge and doing fcc buisness i have no choice to keep the war going. we did try everything with you guys but dealing with kesh is like let form a huge alliance and cock fuck everyone one by one. Sorry fcc one day maybe when kalam will take back the lead let hope.... maybe if fcc would have fougth ve we would have actually merc for them :P cheers
yeah all my hate is toward kesh sorry for fcc i did apologize already but since kesh is the one in charge and doing fcc buisness i have no choice to keep the war going. we did try everything with you guys tough| But dealing with kesh is like... let form a huge alliance and cock fuck everyone one by one. Sorry fcc one day maybe when kalam will take back the lead let hope.... maybe if fcc would have fougth ve we would have actually merc for them :P cheers
Last I heard you tried to get ve to ally with you against us...now that would be quite the huge alliance. Its also hard for us to look for new opportunities when you do your best to convince your friends to never make peace with us.
Kalam is way more evil. Trust me.
not my fault if everyone hate kesh by now probably cause he troll to much on the forum. Don't blame me :PWell when peace talks fail because you uhh enthusiastically encourage your allies to never make peace with us and to never merc for us, it makes me think your purpose in strat is less than beneficial to us.
Kalam is way more evil. Trust me.
also Kesh does not run FCC. Pretty sure I have said it plenty. There is a council of his various accounts who decide on things. Sure he has a lot of input but he also puts in the most time organizing things. Have to say I put in way to much time as well, but that is the benefit of working with internet access available from my phone.
It wasn't our clan creating the experience that was lifeless, we were not in charge of the battles.I'm sure it's real fun not having to deal with a castle that completely regarrisons itself after each battle with it's own troops and our gear. Sitting on a wall with a maul. Shooting a xbow. Meanwhile, we are stuck with not being able to spawn contruction sites for two of our sieges.
I think what you guys are really missing here is that HoC never had the chance to run our own battles... Now that you are informed, I must now educate you on why we thought this war was a terrible experience.
1. Stereotypical bullshit merc answer of "I like their leadership more but really meaning I like easy defense mode" makes me cringe. tl:dr "I have no respect for this clan and want to make it public while I shout out how good I am off the castle walls."
2. HoC taking the full blame for the sieges failing and being singled out as being a worthless cannon fodder clan (great description, must have taken ages to come up with that one).
3. Being the only clan in the empire actually involved in the front while certain other ally is completely inactive.
There are several other reasons why, but you guys and gals shouldn't know of these things.
Now then, as we are now a separate entity we are no longer the attackers, contrary to the prior sieges. We are waiting for occitan's move. If they want us to continue the war, we shall.
I can't think of any, then again I don't have dunning kruger glasses on unlike most of Fimulvetr and HoC. My KDRs speak for themselves and they iterate poetry of high value.
i also always let people decide either fcc or us they just go with what their mind tell them to, the crazy french canadian or the evil kesh, they just prefer the crazy french canadian apparantly. but see remnant decide to go with you still fallen aswell you are still quite big sir dont worry you will still do good.
having almost a funeral somber ts its so serious.
I see the war with Occitan similar to the war with Iraq. It was justified and they had it coming, but after a while we start to think "Why are we still doing this? It isn't getting us anywhere".
We don't like the way the diplomacy subforum is being used right now - most threads derail into offtopic within page 1. We want to see more roleplaying and in-character conversation. This doesn't mean hardcore roleplaying, but you should write stuff with your character in mind.
Therefore, we will announce some rules that you should read closely before posting:
- no one liners - if you have something to say, put some effort in it.
- complete sentences, proper grammar - as above, put some effort in it.
- stay on topic
- no links to outside pictures, unless they really fit (ok: strategus map screenshot, not ok: link to 4chan images)
- same for youtube videos - unless you've done one yourself, it's most likely inappropiate.
- refrain from using "modern talk" - comparing a battle with the invasion of the iraq doesn't really help setting the mood
- think of it as people with messages that are getting sent to all of the lords.
- keep it in the timespan - so no talk about last strategus rounds, if possible
I can't think of any, then again I don't have dunning kruger glasses on unlike most of Fimulvetr and HoC. My KDRs speak for themselves and they iterate poetry of high value.
If less people would post while smoking crack, that would also be great.
Fixed that for you. :P
1. I don't choose defense over offense. I choose who leads their battles better or whoever fights against FCC. In the VE vs. LCO war that was LCO and not VE, I cannot honestly say that I would merc for you, HoC, against LCO, but I would have no problem mercing for you in a fief assault, as long as you lead decently.
2. I did not realize you guys were not allowed to lead your own battles, I figured after TKoV screwed up so many you would have tried to take over leading at least the fights your armies were involved in. That said, the Velucan Empire using you as the front-line soldiers without allowing you to lead the front-line battles does smack of cannon foddery, although it is good on you that you kept the alliance going for as long as you did despite that, if it were the case.
1. All oure batles where commanded by people who aren't in HOC, not that we wanted to take the command, but certain people forces themselfs to lead the battles of HOC, and failed miserble
because this, we where considert as connon fodders by the other clans
2. i scouted wheyya castle and there where atleast 20 people in that castle, from what i saw, they where recruiting, but i can't say that for sure, so thats the setback that HOC had
3. Occitan has infinite troops and gold, that they have received, remeber that they started in EU side, so prolly they made a profit, before they joined up the NA side, and herefore sold all there EU goods
how else do they have suddenly a shitload of fiefs in a short amount of time
cav get to choose where and how they attack. They can manage the risk. Melee on the line (granted not all stay in line and fight as ordered) have no choice and are hit as much by team as by enemy... including that super helpful cav from both teams and ranged always taking the shot. Totally different experience. Come on down and stand next to me on the wall. Not many can make the transition and maintain impressive k/d.
In that statement I am not downplaying cav. They are awesome and are a great thing to have on the battlefield. But comparing K/Ds should not be done.
To the hounds. They know I love them. When I give a command form wall here and do not move.. The fight could go on for hours and I know damn sure when I look for them that is exactly where they will be standing. I wish other mercs had half the discipline.
also Kesh does not run FCC. Pretty sure I have said it plenty. We are a council who decide on things. Sure he has a lot of input but he also puts in the most time organizing things. Have to say I put in way to much time as well, but that is the benefit of working with internet access available from my phone.
He's come into our teamspeak server on multiple occasions just to yell at people signed up against FCC before or after a battle. He seems to have some self-fulfilling paranoia about a big bad secret alliance out to get him and FCC.
HoC were allowed to lead their own battles, in fact we would have preferred if they had, but for a majority of this strat they havent had anyone who has wanted to lead the battles, so we did it for them. As to them being called cannon fodder, Bonesaw himself told us that he preferred it that way, which is why alot of HoC armies at the start of the war were mostly in lighter equipment.
I'm surprised you mentioned me as being a nasty forum poster; I thought I was considered pretty reasonable, I even get +s from arowaine and smoothy-kun on occasion D:
as for muzzling Kesh, I used to do that in strat 2 and a bit in 3 and I think it helped since we were pretty popular back then I guess; but I haven't really tried to do it in 4 cause I was inactive for so long and Kesh and the others have been fantastic in building FCC into the power it is this strat so I didn't think it made sense for me to go yelling at Kesh to change anything; we have never been wanting for enemies and I'll take struggling against hordes of enemies over sitting around waiting for something to happen.
cav get to choose where and how they attack. They can manage the risk. Melee on the line (granted not all stay in line and fight as ordered) have no choice and are hit as much by team as by enemy... including that super helpful cav from both teams and ranged always taking the shot. Totally different experience. Come on down and stand next to me on the wall. Not many can make the transition and maintain impressive k/d.
In that statement I am not downplaying cav. They are awesome and are a great thing to have on the battlefield. But comparing K/Ds should not be done.
Les chevaliers occitans, will agree on a peace agrement, once all of you (hoc and your ally rest of ve) will leave the desert and give us back our rigthful claim.
For more information i welcome you guys to get in toutch with me or bonsai.
Didn't you buy that stuff off semenstorm who took it from tiny BIRD clan (actually technically all your fiefs have been bought on NA side). Not really a rightful claim unless you mean only the old chevalieres fiefs before they joined your faction, though they did agree to a peace where they dropped claims to durquba and gave it to ve rather than keep fighting.damm kesh u really love arowaine ! :P
damm kesh u really love arowaine ! :P
ps : do u need his adress ? i can give it to u !
Didn't you buy that stuff off semenstorm who took it from tiny BIRD clan
Didn't you buy that stuff off semenstorm who took it from tiny BIRD clan (actually technically all your fiefs have been bought on NA side). Not really a rightful claim unless you mean only the old chevalieres fiefs before they joined your faction, though they did agree to a peace where they dropped claims to durquba and gave it to ve rather than keep fighting.
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Didn't you buy that stuff off semenstorm who took it from tiny BIRD clan (actually technically all your fiefs have been bought on NA side). Not really a rightful claim unless you mean only the old chevalieres fiefs before they joined your faction, though they did agree to a peace where they dropped claims to durquba and gave it to ve rather than keep fighting.
This thread went way off course...
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The HoC's thread has been high-jacked and turned it into every other thread in the NA diplomacy
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