1. All oure batles where commanded by people who aren't in HOC, not that we wanted to take the command, but certain people forces themselfs to lead the battles of HOC, and failed miserble
because this, we where considert as connon fodders by the other clans
2. i scouted wheyya castle and there where atleast 20 people in that castle, from what i saw, they where recruiting, but i can't say that for sure, so thats the setback that HOC had
3. Occitan has infinite troops and gold, that they have received, remeber that they started in EU side, so prolly they made a profit, before they joined up the NA side, and herefore sold all there EU goods
how else do they have suddenly a shitload of fiefs in a short amount of time