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Title: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 14, 2013, 03:21:31 pm
Ugliest thing I've ever seen, please remove it.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Silicium on February 14, 2013, 03:24:30 pm
No, u mad bro? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B3AnpGw72U)
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Boerenlater on February 14, 2013, 03:28:40 pm
Remove your head.
Ugliest thing I've ever seen, please remove it.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: IR_Kuoin on February 14, 2013, 03:29:44 pm
More goat banners pl0x.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Macropus on February 14, 2013, 03:55:14 pm
You infamy whore!  :P
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 04:57:57 pm
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Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: no_rules_just_play on February 14, 2013, 05:03:56 pm
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i know what to choose
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 14, 2013, 05:08:42 pm
The only thing thats iffy about it is that in medieval times theyd probably never made such high res banners, especially the 3d part. :lol:
But i like it aswell, and theres nothing wrong with zlisch's banner either, imo its more medievalish.. Dontlike the mountain though :)

Who madethe merc banner and intro anyways? He did an amazing job on the videos aswell!
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 05:11:42 pm
Quote from: Joseph_Porta on February 14, 2013, 05:08:42 pm
Who madethe merc banner and intro anyways? He did an amazing job on the videos aswell!

Nocti... :wink:
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Macropus on February 14, 2013, 05:16:03 pm
Quote from: Joseph_Porta on February 14, 2013, 05:08:42 pm
Who madethe merc banner and intro anyways? He did an amazing job on the videos aswell!
Yeah, pretty badass. My respect to him.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 06:03:14 pm
Quote from: Kulin_ban on February 14, 2013, 05:46:11 pm
it is a fail in terms of medieval era.

Because swords and armour aren't medieval... :D
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 06:10:29 pm
May not be Medieval heraldry; still coolest banner in cRPG.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 06:21:26 pm
And...
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Razzer on February 14, 2013, 06:27:55 pm
Quote from: Kulin_ban on February 14, 2013, 06:16:18 pm
It is good, but it needs 2d adaptation to really shine.

3d model on a 2d banner texture on a 3d model of a shield on your 2d monitor surface perceived by your brain's 3d center...

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p.s.
I made this in 10 seconds and I bet it would look just as good ingame as yours original.

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Looks crappy
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 14, 2013, 06:29:17 pm
Are those donkeys ears behind it? :lol:
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Teeth on February 14, 2013, 06:36:46 pm
I am not a huge fan either, but I barely see it anymore.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 06:45:14 pm
Mercs are pretty active, perhaps you just play at different times (rarely see you outside of prime time).
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 14, 2013, 06:48:56 pm
Quote from: Teeth on February 14, 2013, 06:36:46 pm
I am not a huge fan either, but I barely see it anymore.
Really, you don't see at least 3 merc guys probably wearing heraldics or using shields who make you wanna rip your eyes out every time you play? I envy you.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Son Of Odin on February 14, 2013, 06:53:19 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 14, 2013, 06:48:56 pm
Really, you don't see at least 3 merc guys probably wearing heraldics or using shields who make you wanna rip your eyes out every time you play? I envy you.
My problem is usually that I see the Merc banner when it's already too late and I team hit them :O. That black banner is invisible for half a second too long for me in most cases on horse :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 07:03:17 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 14, 2013, 06:48:56 pm
make you wanna rip your eyes out

I feel the same way when I read your fucking posts. You sir, are a prick!
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Tuetensuppe on February 14, 2013, 07:08:32 pm
discussions about "medieval" banners are without any point...

for example > this banner + the whole slot to upload a new one got removed...
(26h after the slot was bought > no warning > no pay back)

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justification of the moderators: "junk banner"
ok its not medieval but what is about these banners?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=1875 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=1875)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=1312 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=1312)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=83 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=83)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=1916 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=1916)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=2557 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=2557)
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=119 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=119)
*indeed > the hilt...

 "medieval" ?

that is no fair justice > only insanity!

so dont discuss about "medieval" style pls ;)
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Torben on February 14, 2013, 07:11:49 pm
holy shit tüten,  thats the most epic banner ever,  right after Morcs goat god an merc  :mrgreen:

in all seriousness though,   I give out for coke.  call me at 036-idontgiveafuck-002
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 07:13:56 pm
Few if any of the existing banners (including all the Native ones) bear any characteristics of Medieval heraldry.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Arrowblood on February 14, 2013, 07:16:44 pm
Just delete the  thread please. Before a shitstorm comes up.

Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 14, 2013, 07:17:11 pm
Medieval banners were full of details aswell with actual meanings, here heraldry is just what is good for the eye. :)

For example, If im right, only templars who went on a crusade we allowed to wear the actual cross, so only templars who are 2 month old should wear heraldics!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Teeth on February 14, 2013, 07:19:37 pm
Quote from: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 06:45:14 pm
Mercs are pretty active, perhaps you just play at different times (rarely see you outside of prime time).
I meant that I don't really notice what exactly is on the banner anymore, due to getting used to the sight. That is why it doesn't bother me. Mercs are active alright.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Torben on February 14, 2013, 07:21:15 pm
you guys are really starting to defend your banner against ZlisCh?  hahaha,  cmon :'D  the merc banner is cool as shit,  and zlish is a great troll,  and on top has a banner even more unsuiting then you guys (but also really cool btw,  props).  how in all hell can you actually argue about this ^^
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 14, 2013, 07:30:48 pm
Quote from: Torben on February 14, 2013, 07:21:15 pm
you guys are really starting to defend your banner against Zlish?  hahaha,  cmon :'D  the merc banner is cool as shit,  and zlish is a great troll,  and on top has a banner even more unsuiting then you guys (but also really cool btw,  props).  how in all hell can you actually argue about this ^^
You spelled my name wrong.  :cry:
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Torben on February 14, 2013, 07:31:47 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 14, 2013, 07:30:48 pm
You spelled my name wrong.  :cry:

dam,  tis cause sch is german and I want to be rly 'merican,  sry Zlisch :*
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Noctivagant on February 14, 2013, 07:37:08 pm
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Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Kafein on February 14, 2013, 07:38:31 pm
Quote from: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 06:10:29 pm
still coolest banner in cRPG.

I demand satisfaction for that !
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Tibe on February 14, 2013, 07:49:54 pm
Ohh zlischy zlischy. I think all that goatpraising has turned you slightly insane.

Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 08:27:28 pm
Quote from: Tuetensuppe on February 14, 2013, 07:08:32 pm
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What cool clan is this?
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 08:29:15 pm
Quote from: Boerenlater on February 14, 2013, 03:28:40 pm
Remove your head.
Ugliest thing I've ever seen, please remove it.

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Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 14, 2013, 08:36:22 pm
Quote from: Kafein on February 14, 2013, 07:38:31 pm
I demand satisfaction for that !
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Miwiw on February 14, 2013, 08:41:34 pm
Decide this by a duel. Loser gotta remove the banner forever!
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Tibe on February 14, 2013, 09:11:03 pm
Quote from: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 08:29:15 pm
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Kudos! That was awesome.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: the real god emperor on February 14, 2013, 09:24:27 pm
Merc banner is cool as shit indeed, but i think it could have fit more to the banner, it looks like 3D :D
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 09:29:40 pm
New sig prompted by your effort, Zlisch.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Tyr_ on February 14, 2013, 09:31:35 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=1875

now that is fucking awesome, too bad im no archer :(
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 09:31:42 pm
Enough talk about the Merc banner, let's discuss Zlisch's passion for sodomising dead goats?
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Elmokki on February 14, 2013, 11:03:29 pm
I hereby declare anyone who thinks the merc banner looks good ingame an idiot.

Seriously, it could be good if it was made to look more two dimensional and probably a bit less detailed too. I'm not even saying this because I find it bothering my larping or anything - I totally endorse the tuxedo banner and I'd love to use my super awesome Finnish Prime Minister banner. The thing is, the Merc banner gives the feeling that some 12 year old pasted some "cool" 3d render because he can't make anything decent.

The logo is pretty cheesy, which is hopefully the point. It suits well for videos and whatnot, but as a cRPG banner it's ugly as fuck and a great way to troll since it isn't threathened by removal like most banners that try to troll and are actually pretty unimaginative attempts at that. Honestly though instead of crying about people having bad banners or banners that disturb your larping, I think it'd be more awesome for the game if any banner except the most blatant diarrhea people spew would be acceptable.

I'd be proud to whack shit with an internet weapon while wearing these pixels after all:
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Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 11:10:49 pm
Are you a goat? One of Zlisch's gay little friends?
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 15, 2013, 12:29:51 am
Let me get this straight, out of all the god-aweful banner sin the entire game, you think the Merc one is the worst?!
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: rufio on February 15, 2013, 12:36:34 am
i think the merc banner is indeed awesome, although to 3d'ish, still theres a place in crpg for everybody.
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Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Kafein on February 15, 2013, 12:44:07 am
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on February 15, 2013, 12:29:51 am
Let me get this straight, out of all the god-aweful banner sin the entire game, you think the Merc one is the worst?!

Out of EU banners at least, the Merc one is quite bad yes.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 15, 2013, 12:48:53 am
Quote from: rufio on February 15, 2013, 12:36:34 am
mercs, whom if u want to join you need to be a fairyboy/ troll/ liar/ hypocrit. preferably a mix of those.

Hmm, rather be a Merc than a pussy Nord. You really have the wrong idea about our clan if you think that's what the members are like...
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 15, 2013, 12:51:42 am
Quote from: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 11:10:49 pm
Are you a goat? One of Zlisch's gay little friends?
I personally don't know him.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 15, 2013, 12:59:30 am
Quote from: Tears of Destiny on February 15, 2013, 12:29:51 am
Let me get this straight, out of all the god-aweful banner sin the entire game, you think the Merc one is the worst?!
The others are usually funny in some way, the merc banner (as Elmokki pointed out) looks like something a twelve year old copypasted though.

In other news... ...Zlisch_The_Butcher, sF_Leonidas, zottlmarsch, Kelpie, Leshma and 1 Guest are viewing this topic...
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Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: zottlmarsch on February 15, 2013, 01:15:12 am
its made nice, but looks way too modern for a medieval game.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Lizard_man on February 15, 2013, 01:43:27 am
Like it matters, this game doesn't even have camels for fuck's sake... :o
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Tuetensuppe on February 15, 2013, 02:14:53 am
Quote from: Angantyr on February 14, 2013, 08:27:28 pm
What cool clan is this?

now only a bit promotion for our own use ;)

http://forum.meleegaming.com/faction-halls/order-of-the-rainbow/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/faction-halls/order-of-the-rainbow/)
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Gurnisson on February 15, 2013, 02:17:54 am
Personally, I've always liked the merc banner. Think Nords have the best banner though! visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: zagibu on February 15, 2013, 02:27:36 am
It's a really cool render, but unfortunately, it's not a banner. Also, one of the older Nord banners was much better than the current one.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Oberyn on February 15, 2013, 02:30:45 am
Merc banner has the most backstory and legitimacy out of any cRPG banner. Originally it was the 3 swords on white and red shield native banner. We took it and made it our own. The meaning behind it was to represent the founder's triumvirate type leadership. Then it was the 3 swords and a scale, pile of gold coins on one side and armor/weaps on the other. Then wings got added, scale removed and armor/helmet added and background changed to black. Then the helmet changed from a sallet to some weird skull mask with a crown of thorns for some reason. Personally I was a fan of the simpler 3 swords+scale banner. Maybe cause that's around the time I started not giving a shit about Strat anymore and left leadership up to others, so it represents my "era" as Merc leader XD.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Torben on February 15, 2013, 05:11:38 am
Quote from: Oberyn on February 15, 2013, 02:30:45 am
Merc banner has the most backstory and legitimacy out of any cRPG banner. Originally it was the 3 swords on white and red shield native banner. We took it and made it our own. The meaning behind it was to represent the founder's triumvirate type leadership. Then it was the 3 swords and a scale, pile of gold coins on one side and armor/weaps on the other. Then wings got added, scale removed and armor/helmet added and background changed to black. Then the helmet changed from a sallet to some weird skull mask with a crown of thorns for some reason. Personally I was a fan of the simpler 3 swords+scale banner. Maybe cause that's around the time I started not giving a shit about Strat anymore and left leadership up to others, so it represents my "era" as Merc leader XD.

any chance one could look at the different banners?  would be nice : )
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: rufio on February 15, 2013, 08:59:48 am
Quote from: Lizard_man on February 15, 2013, 12:48:53 am
Hmm, rather be a Merc than a pussy Nord. You really have the wrong idea about our clan if you think that's what the members are like...

common everybody whos been in this community long enough knows you are like the 4 chan of it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Torben on February 15, 2013, 09:14:00 am
the hell is 4chan
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: oerput on February 15, 2013, 10:32:31 am
its fine as it is but i wouldnt mind if they removed those wings. they seem kind of fairy
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: DaveUKR on February 15, 2013, 11:18:55 am
Quote from: Torben on February 15, 2013, 05:11:38 am
any chance one could look at the different banners?  would be nice : )

There were different versions and some of them I can't find. I'll put here all the banners and heraldics of Mercs. All of them had their symbolism. I'll try to resurrect some info, though there will be mistakes as I can't recall all of this correctly. Nocti would be the most appropriate person to ask.

The first banner was native "3 swords on red-white background"
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It looked cool and it symbolized the unity of power and 3 leaders: Oberyn, Gnjus and Olwen. This banner was used up to the times of specific clan flags (it was replaced by newer banners but the place was reserved exclusively for Mercs in all of the custom bannerpacks).

This is the banner which symbolizes the idea of Mercenaries. Colours are saved, and they're still red and white, scales added to symbolize fighting for money, wings added to symbolize impossibility to reach Mercs?
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Also there was a logo like this (without Blood and Gold stripe?). It was used in signature
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After that there was a reworked banner with black background, armour and sallet got added. This version of the banner was used for more than a year I think.
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In game it had a small resolution and golden wings.
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After a while there was a decision to change the banner. Most of the clan and I personally wanted the same banner but with a higher resolution. Someone suggested a skull (Nocti IIRC) from Mercenaries never die.
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Also some clanmembers said that they didn't like high detailed banner and Burrick IIRC said that he hated golden wings. So I made a cartoonish version of a skull with all the symbolism of Mercs. There were different version but in the end we stopped at
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Red eyes symbolize blood, golden coin symbolizes money, swords symbolize skill and teamplay, skull symbolizes death, scratches and cracks symbolize fight.

I personally didn't like what we came to as skulls simply can't look cool if you draw them in heraldic way, they just look cartoonish like a rock group for children in 1980s. So I smashed the whole Nocti's brain speaking about new banner every day and asking to remake the old one. There were also a lot of different versions before we came to the final one but it is what we have now:

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Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Nessaj on February 15, 2013, 11:28:04 am
Always found this one most iconic of the Mercs (together with the native red/white swords one):

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Not a fan of the newest as an in-game banner, looks great and all as a picture (great job really), but as a medieval banner it is a bit too 3D/artsy IMO.

I'd try and "herald" up the in-game banner, e.g. make it in a more medieval style - still the same design just with a more old/medieval look.

Else I've never been a fan of the chocolate chip cookie rules for banners in general.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Angantyr on February 15, 2013, 01:07:13 pm
Can see I received some flak for stating my personal taste, that I think the Mercs banner is the coolest in cRPG (barring historicity), you may not agree but let me explain my position  :wink:

First of all I like the color scheme, golden-rimmed white on a black field, very stylish in my opinion. Then there's the most important thing of any banner; symbols. And the Mercenaries banner is full of them, it's not just some dog or fox or other heraldic animal, the things here have meaning, tradition and history tied into the clan directly, it's not just something someone copy-pasted from the internet because 'it looked cool' or something arbitrarily made to fit a clan theme. I also happen to like wings, skulls, crowns, blood, armors and swords, these are powerful symbols, today aswell as in the Middle-Ages.

It may look a bit cheesy if you wear that sort of glasses and it may be too 3d-ish and modern to look like real Medieval heraldry. But especially when worn in-game where it's a bit blurred I think the white wings protruding from the golden sun-like circle with the skull center on the black field looks very iconic and powerful.

But anyway, when I say something 'is the best(est)! or coolest' I'm of course not dead serious, there are many great banners in cRPG, each great for its own reasons and in its own right, the Mercs banner just has something special from my perspective.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Osiris on February 15, 2013, 01:19:28 pm
I used to like this banner 
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i think the new one looks fugly

apart from classic sexy Templar i liked a couple that i uploaded but unfortunately im too poor to keep a banner slot just for an alt or two :D

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Mercs banner is meh to me :D it doesn't look that good on heraldic mail as it blurs a little but it looks ok on a shield but to each their own :P
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: zagibu on February 15, 2013, 01:41:31 pm
This could work well with less detailed and more medieval-type swords:

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Cartoonish is better than a 3d render. Also, if you look a bit on medieval paintings, skulls are prevalent, so maybe you can copy a design that is a bit less pirate-like and more medieval-style.

BTW: The double wyrm banner is exactly the nord banner I was talking about earlier. It worked much better ingame than the current one, which looks almost oriental from afar.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Osiris on February 15, 2013, 01:47:05 pm
i do love the badass merc into to the game tho :D
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Berserkadin on February 15, 2013, 01:57:59 pm
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Nice to read some ancient cRPG history  :lol:
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 15, 2013, 02:44:37 pm
Quote from: no_rules_just_play on February 14, 2013, 05:03:56 pm
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i know what to choose
This bullying has made me change my banner, I hope you're happy. http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderoverviewclans#!?page=ladderinfoclandetail&id=2301
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Joseph Porta on February 15, 2013, 02:53:32 pm
Quote from: Torben on February 15, 2013, 09:14:00 am
the hell is 4chan
Dont go there!
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Elmokki on February 15, 2013, 02:55:12 pm
Let me rephrase since some people misunderstood it:

1. The merc logo is a bit cheesy but (at least the current iteration) is pretty good.
2. In the full web page size it isn't horrible.
3. When rendered in considerably smaller size to both the circle above people's heads and on textures on 3D models it's ugly as hell.

For example the Nord banner looks a shitton better in game.

But as I said before, currently it's a great troll banner since unlike those actual troll banners it isn't threathened by removal.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 15, 2013, 03:16:52 pm
I think the native banner looked better (3 sword one) still think of mercs everytime i see someone use it.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Torben on February 15, 2013, 04:29:50 pm
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=613710175310969&set=vb.198884536813980&type=2&theater
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on February 15, 2013, 09:42:18 pm
Quote from: DaveUKR on February 15, 2013, 11:18:55 am
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That's some interesting history. This should be made in to a thread. In fact, imma go do it.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 01:44:28 am
Quote from: Lizard_man on February 14, 2013, 08:29:15 pm
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This thread caused the creation of glorious artwork, drama, and a new trend of telling the history behind your heraldics, I do believe I succeeded in having a bit of fun and creating something productive. (still think the merc banner looks horrible on heraldics though, and as a banner in general.)
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on February 16, 2013, 03:07:21 am
Quote from: rufio on February 15, 2013, 12:36:34 am
even mercs, whom if u want to join you need to be a fairyboy/ troll/ liar/ hypocrit. preferably a mix of those

Good job Rufio. No really, good job.

On the banner, it has Dave's wall of history behind it, and I kinda like it. Was always more of a fan of simplicity, but i warmed to the new banner over time.... :)
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Noctivagant on February 16, 2013, 11:42:33 am
Thing is you don't have to like it.

Merc banner was designed as Coat Of Arms, not as a banner. In the time it was made, there were no custom banner options.

This was our first ever banner
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so I made this (I have to find the original file)
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Then the coat of arms was improved to this
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it was inspired by
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When custom banners were allowed we thought we should make a version of the coat of arms as banner

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After some fail attempts we have decided to this
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There were some complaints and more fail attempts like
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By time there were new ideas, we were keep posting the US army mercenaries badge around
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So we have combined our past then current coat of arms with us military merc banner and came up with this

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What is the symbolism behind it?

Skull is obviously from the modern mercenary badge, crown of thorns is from Strategus 3 : it symbolizes the shit we've been through. As you can see the golden wings became silver that's because our rule of Calradia is a distant past now.

Banner is sticking out than the rest and that's what it meant to do. So if I ignore the trolling side of this topic, I can say it (banner) have fulfilled its purpose.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Teeth on February 16, 2013, 12:22:27 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on February 16, 2013, 11:42:33 am
This was our first ever banner
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I prefer this one 8-)
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Tuetensuppe on February 16, 2013, 12:28:49 pm
Quote from: Teeth on February 16, 2013, 12:22:27 pm
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I prefer this one 8-)

fixed, my dear :*
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Noctivagant on February 16, 2013, 12:41:13 pm
Quote from: Teeth on February 16, 2013, 12:22:27 pm
I prefer this one 8-)

Apply to Mercs then we will consider your opinion
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 03:49:46 pm
Quote from: Noctivagant on February 16, 2013, 12:41:13 pm
Apply to Mercs then we will consider your opinion
Does this count for me too?
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Arrowblood on February 16, 2013, 03:56:53 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 03:49:46 pm
Does this count for me too?
No.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Osiris on February 16, 2013, 04:05:17 pm
poor zlisch :D
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 04:09:16 pm
Quote from: Arrowblood on February 16, 2013, 03:56:53 pm
No.
:cry:
This thread made me a Marshall.
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Osiris on February 16, 2013, 04:14:30 pm
your not cool enough for the mercs  8-)
Title: Re: Remove the merc banner
Post by: Arrowblood on February 16, 2013, 05:03:15 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 16, 2013, 04:09:16 pm
:cry:
This thread made me a Marshall.