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Title: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 29, 2012, 09:06:32 pm
Please give examples and explain why you think it's awesome :)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Boerenlater on December 29, 2012, 09:33:38 pm
Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

Strength: 3
Agility: 39
Hit points: 40
Skills to attributes: 4
Ironflesh: 1
Power Strike: 1
Shield: 13
Athletics: 13
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 147
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

100+ speed shield and rondel dagger and be a troll
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Keshian on December 29, 2012, 09:41:03 pm
Level 35 (230 463 281 xp)

Strength: 27
Agility: 18
Hit points: 62
Skills to attributes: 4
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 9
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 4
Polearm: 1
Archery: 160
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Its awesome because i love my build, even if the current game setup heavily favors agility archers (18-27) over strength archers (27-18).
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Arrowblood on December 29, 2012, 09:47:23 pm
Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

Strength: 7
Agility: 36
Hit points: 42
Skills to attributes: 6
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 12
Horse Archery: 6
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 12

One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 210
Throwing: 1

Fastest and deadliest creature in crpg in combination with +3 steelbolts light xbow and a courser.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Lennu on December 29, 2012, 09:55:36 pm

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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Umbra on December 29, 2012, 10:04:28 pm
2h hero
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1h hero
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1h thrower
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Shemaforash on December 29, 2012, 10:15:59 pm
Level 35

Strength: 21
Agility: 21
Hit points: 62

Skills to attributes: 4

Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 7
Athletics: 4
Riding: 7
Weapon Master: 7

Polearm: 100
Rest to 1h ~~152
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Panos on December 29, 2012, 10:22:00 pm
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My dream build..
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 29, 2012, 10:26:16 pm
21/21

4 skills to attributes

6ps
7riding
7pt
7wm
3ha
2ath

170 throwing wpf

Purely ride a champ arab and use throwing lances and wear a yellow rope with that one faceplate (not the vaegir or chinese one).
You know you want this.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: pepejul on December 29, 2012, 10:42:35 pm
36/6 with greatmaul should be funny....
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 29, 2012, 11:22:22 pm
27/18
7 if
9 ps
6 ath
4 wm

144 2h wpf

i mean, come on :P

edit: 10 skills to attributes
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Falka on December 29, 2012, 11:38:32 pm
2h hero
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Nah, this one is better:
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But
I think about sth like that:
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 29, 2012, 11:56:31 pm
36/6 with greatmaul should be funny....


42/3 is better :wink:
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 30, 2012, 12:25:27 am
Dear community members, thanks for your import. However 2H is a big no no. So, this is what I have in mind:

Option 1 - Most likely will be this. I'm not ranged fan (including throwing) and I'm bored of 2H so 1H and poles it is. Not impressive build (especially for level 35) but it is sturdy and reliable build which allows me to play any map I want any way I want. Want to be 1H cav, no problem. Want to be lancer, no problem. Want to be footman with a shield and a sword, no problemo. Want to use poleaxe/glaive/glb, again it's perfectly feasible. Want to be pikemy old friend, I can and be very effective as one. For me, this is ultimate melee hybrid build and closest build to simulate true knight. I've redistributed wpf like this because I'm fine with lower 1H wpf (I don't spam left swing, I prefer chambered attacks) and most importantly, because I want to have 100 effective wpf in brigandine with both polearm and one handed weapon.

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Option 2 - xbowgaycav hybrid (thanks for tip arrowblood but I would kill myself after 20 minutes of playing that my old friendgy build)

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Option 3 - Stronger than Butan (will have to respec again when wpf overhaul comes and I'm not sure I want to play as total strength douchebag in plate like b0nk for example)

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Archery doesn't interest me on main, I thought about hybrid for a long time but those builds are simply bad for such high level. I'll make dedicated archer (most likely) or hybrid archer (less likely) out of my level 33 alt (which will be ready in half a year if current cRPG survives that long).
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Osiris on December 30, 2012, 12:28:52 am
for a 1h i would probably go

21-18

7PS
7IF
6 Shield
6 Ath
6 Riding
6wpm

for pure 1h power

27-15
9Ps
8 If
5shield
5ath
5wpm

with heavier armour a strong shield and a warhammer or something that would wreck peoples lives :D

but for if you like poles then your build is near perfect leshma




I like teh balance :D
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Taser on December 30, 2012, 12:46:29 am

1h hero
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This is what I'm doing. Who told you??

Seriously though while I loved my 24/18 build I wanted better shield and ath. Figured 1 less PS wouldn't hurt. Dat 1h wpf though. Hnnnnnng
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: San on December 30, 2012, 12:48:12 am
I suggest 1h/polearm, 24/15 or 21/18 with riding, 21/21 or 24/18 without.

1h/polearm with riding, you can play these classes:

1h+shield
2h polearm
hoplite
1h cav
lance cav

Fun things like
sheathable polearm + 1h cav mix
1h no shield

I've always thought about respeccing to a pure build, but the build is too fun.
(My build was geared for 34. Could get more agi/riding/ath at the cost of IF, but I like the bulk)
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Malaclypse on December 30, 2012, 12:50:37 am
I'd say avoid the 7 PS builds as a 1-hander. Go for either 18 or 24 Strength. The difference between 6 and 7 PS has never struck me as worthwhile (with a 1-hander)- more athletics would serve better.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Taser on December 30, 2012, 01:09:35 am
I'd say avoid the 7 PS builds as a 1-hander. Go for either 18 or 24 Strength. The difference between 6 and 7 PS has never struck me as worthwhile (with a 1-hander)- more athletics would serve better.

Now you say something like this when I plan on a 21/21 build. Great mala. Just great.


EVERYTHING IS RUINED
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 30, 2012, 01:19:02 am
I'd say avoid the 7 PS builds as a 1-hander. Go for either 18 or 24 Strength. The difference between 6 and 7 PS has never struck me as worthwhile (with a 1-hander)- more athletics would serve better.

Athletics is a bit overrated imho, if you're not hunting archers or fighting cav or just being s key hero.

7 PS will be useful when mounted and will help to dish out that extra damage to one hit many folks with GLB :wink:

Also, I doubt Long Maul can crush trough anything with just 18 str, just like Mallet can't. 21 str isn't ideal for CT weapons but it is quite decent, especially with mighty weapons I'm planning to use.

Two years ago, answer to this dilemma would be 15/30 build with 10 ath 8 WM in polearms. I would use only two weapons, MW Awlpike and MW Bec de Corbin :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: San on December 30, 2012, 01:28:49 am
I noticed a huge difference from 6 to 7, but that was when I was new almost 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Prinz_Karl on December 30, 2012, 01:36:22 am
Just one simple question, is it true that horsearchery also helps for throwing and crossbow on horse?
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 30, 2012, 01:38:33 am
Of course.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2012, 12:39:13 pm
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Btw : cute puppy
 
Also you could go 24/18 if you drop a few points in WM, shield, athletics and IF.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Tovi on December 30, 2012, 01:12:56 pm
Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

Strength: 7
Agility: 36
Hit points: 42
Skills to attributes: 6
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 12
Horse Archery: 6
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 12

One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 210
Throwing: 1

Fastest and deadliest creature in crpg in combination with +3 steelbolts light xbow and a courser.

Horse Archery is useless for mounted xbows


And here is my lvl 35 build (actually lvl 32) :

Hit Points : 69
Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 5
Athletics: 0
Riding: 3
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 5

1h : 100
Pole : 54
Throwing : 120

1h/shield + throwing lance/hoplite + cav
This is my perfect hybrid. I can play it in many ways for months.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Quentry on December 30, 2012, 01:37:31 pm
I think you should, at first, decide what class do you want to play.
After that i advise you to think which build do you like to play (stregth, balanced, agi)
If you want to play at strat battles you shouldn't do agi or multiclass builds (sad, but true)
After that you may try STF to test your build!  :)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Arrowblood on December 30, 2012, 02:00:09 pm
Horse Archery is useless for mounted xbows


And here is my lvl 35 build (actually lvl 32) :

Hit Points : 69
Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 5
Athletics: 0
Riding: 3
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 5

1h : 100
Pole : 54
Throwing : 120

1h/shield + throwing lance/hoplite + cav
This is my perfect hybrid. I can play it in many ways for months.

Maybe try it before you talk bullshit  :wink:
Your accuracy increases and your dmg.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Tore on December 30, 2012, 02:11:16 pm
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: peter_afca7 on December 30, 2012, 02:21:19 pm
i know this is about lvl 35 builds but this one would be amezing in my opinion you can also take it as polearm

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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Tovi on December 30, 2012, 02:33:47 pm
Maybe try it before you talk bullshit  :wink:
Your accuracy increases and your dmg.

I never tried, I just refer to the game mechanic thread...

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Mounted throwers and bowmen (not crossbowmen) also will have their damage multiplied by
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(horse_archery*0.019 +0.8)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Laufknoten on December 30, 2012, 02:42:47 pm
I noticed a huge difference from 6 to 7, but that was when I was new almost 2 years ago.
It's still a difference. The massive strenght/ironflesh stacking and loomed armors make life hard for shielders these days, as long as you don't use steel picks and shit like that. I respeced and now go for a 21/18 (lvl31) build, cause 6 ps feels too weak especially with low cut damage weapons.
   
I'd definitely choose this as my lvl 35 build:
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 30, 2012, 03:00:50 pm
Dear community members, thanks for your import. However 2H is a big no no. So, this is what I have in mind:

Option 1 - Most likely will be this. I'm not ranged fan (including throwing) and I'm bored of 2H so 1H and poles it is. Not impressive build (especially for level 35) but it is sturdy and reliable build which allows me to play any map I want any way I want. Want to be 1H cav, no problem. Want to be lancer, no problem. Want to be footman with a shield and a sword, no problemo. Want to use poleaxe/glaive/glb, again it's perfectly feasible. Want to be pikemy old friend, I can and be very effective as one. For me, this is ultimate melee hybrid build and closest build to simulate true knight. I've redistributed wpf like this because I'm fine with lower 1H wpf (I don't spam left swing, I prefer chambered attacks) and most importantly, because I want to have 100 effective wpf in brigandine with both polearm and one handed weapon.

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Option 2 - xbowgaycav hybrid (thanks for tip arrowblood but I would kill myself after 20 minutes of playing that my old friendgy build)

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Option 3 - Stronger than Butan (will have to respec again when wpf overhaul comes and I'm not sure I want to play as total strength douchebag in plate like b0nk for example)

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Archery doesn't interest me on main, I thought about hybrid for a long time but those builds are simply bad for such high level. I'll make dedicated archer (most likely) or hybrid archer (less likely) out of my level 33 alt (which will be ready in half a year if current cRPG survives that long).
isnt that Lalien's build? (the 21/18 pole/1h
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 30, 2012, 03:02:32 pm
I think you should, at first, decide what class do you want to play.
After that i advise you to think which build do you like to play (stregth, balanced, agi)
If you want to play at strat battles you shouldn't do agi or multiclass builds (sad, but true)
After that you may try STF to test your build!  :)

I want to play hybrid build. I was pure 2H for 200 million XP as you can see. I want to play balanced build. I'm not interested in strategus atm and will not be until they make standalone game with open world strategus mode.

Riding: 3

Had 3 riding on my main before I used training lessons. It's useless.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 30, 2012, 03:04:16 pm
isnt that Lalien's build? (the 21/18 pole/1h

I don't think so, haven't seen him with using one handed weapons. Ujin has similar build, difference is that he's lower level so he probably doesn't have IF.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Joseph Porta on December 30, 2012, 03:51:17 pm
I don't think so, haven't seen him with using one handed weapons. Ujin has similar build, difference is that he's lower level so he probably doesn't have IF.
ah, with your looms its a great build though, i would play something like that @ lv  35
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Arrowblood on December 30, 2012, 04:25:00 pm
Ujin retired


Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Macropus on December 30, 2012, 09:33:21 pm
Hoplite of my dream.
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Tovi on December 30, 2012, 09:55:05 pm
Hoplite needs more shield and less WM. As pure Hoplite,you should take the Huscarl Shield.

3 cav is enough with a champion rouncey.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 30, 2012, 09:57:52 pm
i dont know yet, but i think i will go either 18/24 or 15/27 for my endbuild. i use the long spear and the long awlpike and im not sure if the speed bonus will give more damage than extra powerstrike
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Macropus on December 30, 2012, 10:16:07 pm
Hoplite needs more shield and less WM. As pure Hoplite,you should take the Huscarl Shield.
For me 4 shield works fine since I use plate covered shield and warspear (which is really good weapon without shield), so my shield doesn't break too fast and I don't care even when it does. And yes, it's not really pure hoplite, but a hoplite/pure polearm hybrid  :)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: rufio on December 30, 2012, 10:41:13 pm
Attribute points:0
Strength:21
Agility:21
Weapon points:3
One Handed:1+
Two Handed:168
Polearm:1+
Throwing:1+
Crossbow:1+
Archery:1+
Skill points:0
Weapon Master:7
Athletics:7
Riding:0
Iron Flesh:7
Shield:4
Horse Archery:0
Power Strike:7
Power Draw:0
Power Throw:0

my build: ballanced (also wont be affected tomuch if str or agil is tweaked in crpg ). can use all melee weapons, all armors, and most of the shields.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Uumdi on December 30, 2012, 10:52:21 pm
Dear community members, thanks for your import. However 2H is a big no no. So, this is what I have in mind:

Option 1 - Most likely will be this. I'm not ranged fan (including throwing) and I'm bored of 2H so 1H and poles it is. Not impressive build (especially for level 35) but it is sturdy and reliable build which allows me to play any map I want any way I want. Want to be 1H cav, no problem. Want to be lancer, no problem. Want to be footman with a shield and a sword, no problemo. Want to use poleaxe/glaive/glb, again it's perfectly feasible. Want to be pikemy old friend, I can and be very effective as one. For me, this is ultimate melee hybrid build and closest build to simulate true knight. I've redistributed wpf like this because I'm fine with lower 1H wpf (I don't spam left swing, I prefer chambered attacks) and most importantly, because I want to have 100 effective wpf in brigandine with both polearm and one handed weapon.

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Great minds think alike, my friend.

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Was even gonna do 120/120 on the wpfs, which is scary.  Tough though.  I've played with many a 0 IF build, but 27/12 pure pole infantry with full IF was disgusting, I can't imagine how awesome 27/18 would be.  Might wind up doing pure infantry, 21/21, 7 in all but 4 shield.  Oh the choices man.  Not sure I can throw away the ability to ride though.  If new armours come out, I'm gonna wanna waste my time retiring more too.
Title: most op build in the game.
Post by: Banok on December 30, 2012, 11:07:06 pm
12 str
24 agi

4 ps
4 if
8 alth
8 shield
8 wm

178 wpf 1h

+3 steel pick

tried this with a stf and its even easier than cavalry, garentee'd valor each round unless your awful.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Warcat on December 30, 2012, 11:17:47 pm
Strength: 3
Agility: 39
Shield: 13
Athletics: 13
Riding: 6
That's what i'd like to get to eventually
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Kafein on December 30, 2012, 11:29:19 pm
Strength: 3
Agility: 39
Shield: 13
Athletics: 13
Riding: 6
That's what i'd like to get to eventually

Can't you get a working 13 shield build at level 35 ?

I mean this :

Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 9
    Agility: 39
    Hit points: 44

    Skills to attributes: 16

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 3
    Shield: 13
    Athletics: 4
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 0

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 123
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Using arena shield + whatever difficulty 9 spear you like (including the light lance and the spear). It's the ultimate support hoplite.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on December 30, 2012, 11:46:24 pm
Well, I want to use shield because I like the looks and need one when mounted but.. my right mouse button isn't working very well. I don't have many issues with blocking but when I need to hold block, my mouse betrayed me many times. Indestructible shield isn't an option because that would require holding block constantly and I'm unable to do so.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: pepejul on December 31, 2012, 01:25:46 am
Actually it is my MAIN build....
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I failed my respec from 18/24 for 27/18 (I forgot one point I think...)  :?
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Tovi on December 31, 2012, 07:27:56 am
Well, I want to use shield because I like the looks and need one when mounted but.. my right mouse button isn't working very well. I don't have many issues with blocking but when I need to hold block, my mouse betrayed me many times. Indestructible shield isn't an option because that would require holding block constantly and I'm unable to do so.

Level 35 suppose a ton of hours on Crpg... I think you can invest in a new mouse... friendly advice ;)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Warcat on January 01, 2013, 10:10:35 am
Well, I want to use shield because I like the looks and need one when mounted but.. my right mouse button isn't working very well. I don't have many issues with blocking but when I need to hold block, my mouse betrayed me many times. Indestructible shield isn't an option because that would require holding block constantly and I'm unable to do so.

I've got a similar problem in reverse, left button tends to act funny, which is partly why I haven't done much ranged lately, but I can hold a shield up forever.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: peter_afca7 on January 01, 2013, 05:38:29 pm
Actually it is my MAIN build....
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I failed my respec from 18/24 for 27/18 (I forgot one point I think...)  :?
yup i gues that point is in Weapon master cause 5 is enough for melee but if i see youre gold you might be able to buy a respec when you reach 35 :D
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Tovi on January 01, 2013, 05:47:26 pm
Go cav lvl 6 or hoplite shield lvl 6
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Butan on January 02, 2013, 02:26:14 pm
Well, I want to use shield because I like the looks and need one when mounted but.. my right mouse button isn't working very well. I don't have many issues with blocking but when I need to hold block, my mouse betrayed me many times.

Give me your IRL adress and I will send you a mouse+mouse pad for christmas (a bit late but its the will that count).



Also I suggest you wait after 6 january to make plan on the moon  :mrgreen:

If they modify WPF points per WM, the STR build option will be less attractive and AGI build will become viable.
If they change some items stats, or add some items, you will maybe be interested in creating a build around them.
If they add new gamemodes, where some classes will have more advantages or place to express themselves, you could base your new playstyle on those.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Gurnisson on January 02, 2013, 02:28:47 pm
18/21 lancer/1h/shield hybrid. Being able to play piker, hoplite, one-hander, poleaxer and lancer with pretty much full effectivity in one build would be my preferable choice. :)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Kafein on January 02, 2013, 02:48:17 pm
18/21 lancer/1h/shield hybrid. Being able to play piker, hoplite, one-hander, poleaxer and lancer with pretty much full effectivity in one build would be my preferable choice. :)

If you go 18/18 you can add throwing, making the most diverse hybrid, but you lose the ability to use the arab warhorse
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Joseph Porta on January 02, 2013, 03:13:33 pm
If you go 18/18 you can add throwing, making the most diverse hybrid, but you lose the ability to use the arab warhorse
I doubt he will have enough wpf for pole, 1h & throwing. :P
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Kafein on January 02, 2013, 03:26:02 pm
I doubt he will have enough wpf for pole, 1h & throwing. :P

You don't need much wfp for polearms, or even for 1h.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Grumbs on January 02, 2013, 03:28:53 pm
Actually it is my MAIN build....
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I failed my respec from 18/24 for 27/18 (I forgot one point I think...)  :?

Same build as me, just i'm at 34 and have 1 point in shields. When / if you ever hit 35 you can put some points in shield and play hoplite or put 4 points in riding (not sure if thats useful)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Joseph Porta on January 02, 2013, 03:53:27 pm
You don't need much wfp for polearms, or even for 1h.
ah, you mean exchanging pole/1h for throwing?
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Rico on January 03, 2013, 02:58:43 am
Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 30

    Skills to attributes: 10

    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 5
    Athletics: 10
    Weapon Master: 10

    One Handed: 50
    Two Handed: 50
    Crossbow: rest

I can't decide between one handed (Grosse Messer, Broad Short Sword) and two handed (Langes Messer, stuff I pick up). As I use the Langes Messer, I want some 1h wpf to reduce the repair chance and some 2h to make better use of it. When I have 1h wpf anyway, I can use Grosse Messer and the Broad Short Sword whenever I feel like it. Twisted logic, but it's fun to play like this.

The rest of the wpf in xbow is just awesome... That reloading speed! That accuracy ;D

10 athletics is pretty nice, too. Ofc it's pointless to kite as a xbowguy, but I really want these athletics to compensate my little melee weapon range.

Imo, it's just the ultimate sniper&melee hybrid build I want to use on Siege playing together with HRE ^_^ Ofc, you need an idea about how to use speed boni and hold swings to penetrate heavy armor with only 5 PS and the cut damage weapons I equip. But I am constantly getting better at this, so I don't give up))
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Falka on January 04, 2013, 03:48:53 am
18/21 lancer/1h/shield hybrid. Being able to play piker, hoplite, one-hander, poleaxer and lancer with pretty much full effectivity in one build would be my preferable choice. :)
Yup, seems better than 21/18  :wink:
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Vodner on January 04, 2013, 03:54:12 am
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As I use the Langes Messer, I want some 1h wpf to reduce the repair chance and some 2h to make better use of it.
Your highest melee proficiency is used to determine the repair chance for all melee weapons (source (http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/using-1h-weapons-as-2h/msg199810/#msg199810)). Also note that 50 WPF has a pretty hefty damage penalty compared to 100 WPF (-7.5% total damage).
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: San on January 04, 2013, 08:39:32 am
18/21 lancer/1h/shield hybrid. Being able to play piker, hoplite, one-hander, poleaxer and lancer with pretty much full effectivity in one build would be my preferable choice. :)

It is effective both STR and agi oriented. Choose this. It's up to you how you want wpf, but I recommend at least a sizable amount in 1h if you are mostly going to use 1h on the ground.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Commodore_Axephante on January 04, 2013, 09:19:09 am
Have the upcoming changes to weapon focus/prof been announced anywhere, or is everyone just speculating?
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Cyclopsided on January 04, 2013, 09:36:42 am
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: pepejul on January 04, 2013, 11:42:06 am
being medium in each class was my first style in beginning... then I always loose duels VS each class pro...

Now I m very specialized... I still loos my duels !

Maybe I m really noob ?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on January 06, 2013, 07:55:18 pm
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Yeah, that's exactly what I did. Only difference is that Espu's calc doesn't show exact values for wpf. It is 125 wpf for 1H and 120 wpf for polearms.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: San on January 06, 2013, 08:04:34 pm
Nice choice. Sometimes wish I had that build.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: wayyyyyne on January 06, 2013, 10:22:17 pm
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most versatile build you can possibly have, hands down.
afaik Ramses (EU) is aiming for the same exact build it's just that he's still 34 and in Vietnam right now
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: LordBerenger on January 06, 2013, 11:01:14 pm
If i were you Lesh i'd just buy those respec on market and then go 15 Ath speedy gonzales build.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Tovi on January 07, 2013, 08:35:54 am
Take a horse !
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Cris on January 07, 2013, 12:23:27 pm
If someone is gifted at Horse Archery -

Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 30
    Riding: 7 (6 - for a 5 requirement horse)
    Horse Archery: 5
    Power Draw: 5
    Weapon Master: 9 (10)
    Archery: 186 (194)

And hell will rain on the rest
   
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on January 07, 2013, 02:29:49 pm
Gifted or not, I do not enjoy playing ranged classes. Tried couple of times, not my thing.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Shemaforash on January 07, 2013, 03:50:20 pm
If someone is gifted at Horse Archery -

As if that is difficult x)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Laufknoten on January 07, 2013, 04:54:29 pm
If someone is gifted at Horse Archery -

Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 30
    Riding: 7 (6 - for a 5 requirement horse)
    Horse Archery: 5
    Power Draw: 5
    Weapon Master: 9 (10)
    Archery: 186 (194)

And hell will rain on the rest
 
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Cyclopsided on January 07, 2013, 06:28:38 pm
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Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Cris on January 10, 2013, 02:21:11 am
As if that is difficult x)

Olden days did allow HA to show different skill levels, 50+ kills per map; I can only same 3 people who did that on the EU side. Anyway, that's gone. 5HA will now carry -50wpp penalty :(

Gifted or not, I do not enjoy playing ranged classes. Tried couple of times, not my thing.

Fair enough- After a new stf alt, I'd do these 2 builds:

 Silly OP build:   
    Strength: 30
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 77

    Skills to attributes: 10
    Ironflesh: 6
    Power Strike: 10
    Athletics: 5
    Weapon Master: 5
    Two Handed: 154
   

Fun hybrid:

Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 56
    Skills to attributes: 4
    Ironflesh: 2 (0)
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 2 (4)
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 7
    Weapon Master: 7
    Two Handed: 170

Done this one at level 30 with less str and MW Longsword. Lots of fun, viable, shield is only to survive arrow fire and HA/HX on horse. Its on your back most of the time. Suggested horses are Champ courser, Arabian or if you can afford it, armoured horses :)
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Torben on January 10, 2013, 03:10:01 am
Actually it is my MAIN build....
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I failed my respec from 18/24 for 27/18 (I forgot one point I think...)  :?

although this sucks you can now go courser cav with 24 str.  my build back when i was effective : )
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: pepejul on January 10, 2013, 08:38:34 pm
wut ?
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: San on January 10, 2013, 08:44:21 pm
Put all your points into riding after every subsequent level up. The melee part of your build is done.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: pepejul on January 10, 2013, 08:59:08 pm
ah ok.... but I hate horses  :?
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: oohillac on January 10, 2013, 10:02:21 pm
This is my eventual build.  Dedicated Longspear.

Code: (longspear build) [Select]
Level:           35

Strength:        18
Agility:         30

Skill to attr:   16

Power Strike:     6
Athletics:       10
Weapon Master:    4

Polearm:        144

Alternatively 2 Shield/2 WM for a little hoplite feel-good.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Joseph Porta on January 11, 2013, 12:13:17 am
This is my eventual build.  Dedicated Longspear.

Code: (longspear build) [Select]
Level:           35

Strength:        18
Agility:         30

Skill to attr:   16

Power Strike:     6
Athletics:       10
Weapon Master:    4

Polearm:        144

Alternatively 2 Shield/2 WM for a little hoplite feel-good.

Mental  :|
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on January 11, 2013, 12:39:24 am
This is my eventual build.  Dedicated Longspear.

Code: (longspear build) [Select]
Level:           35

Strength:        18
Agility:         30

Skill to attr:   16

Power Strike:     6
Athletics:       10
Weapon Master:    4

Polearm:        144

Alternatively 2 Shield/2 WM for a little hoplite feel-good.

Waste of points imho. You should make it completely the opposite. That longspear you're carrying will rape your high athletics.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: TurmoilTom on January 11, 2013, 12:46:16 am
Waste of points imho. You should make it completely the opposite. That longspear you're carrying will rape your high athletics.

Why is that? Longspear is just 2.5 weight. Same as a Danish Greatsword, and that doesn't stop people from using high athletics greatsword builds.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Gurnisson on January 11, 2013, 12:48:13 am
Why is that? Longspear is just 2.5 weight. Same as a Danish Greatsword, and that doesn't stop people from using high athletics greatsword builds.

245 length =/= 124 length. Longer length makes you slower.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on January 11, 2013, 12:57:26 am
Maybe wpf helps but I know that carrying longspear with 1 wpf and 8 ath felt like having 5 ath and since pentaly is percentage based I bet difference will be even bigger for 10 ath char.

Also no IF... I understand that some people don't like it because it's cheesy and OP skill but if that's not the case, you're making huge mistake. IF is the most important battle/siege skill by far, even if you have 0 armor on you. And with extra armor its usefulness grows exponentially.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Dach on January 11, 2013, 02:06:17 am
my lvl 35 build.

27 STR
15 AGI

9 IF
9 PS
5 ATH
5 RIDING
4 WM

144 in pole.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Leshma on January 11, 2013, 02:15:40 am
That's a mean build and a bit gay. Was thinking about it but decided to stick with balanced hybrid.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: oohillac on January 11, 2013, 02:25:21 am
Maybe wpf helps but I know that carrying longspear with 1 wpf and 8 ath felt like having 5 ath and since pentaly is percentage based I bet difference will be even bigger for 10 ath char.

at 8 Athletics right now, I outrun most other melee, which is what counts.


Also no IF... I understand that some people don't like it because it's cheesy and OP skill but if that's not the case, you're making huge mistake. IF is the most important battle/siege skill by far, even if you have 0 armor on you. And with extra armor its usefulness grows exponentially.

I wear full plate, some heirloomed.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: XyNox on January 12, 2013, 04:31:43 am
Str: 3
Agi: 47

Athletics: 15
Powerthrow: 1

Throwing: 123

Now charge people at mach 3 and railgun their faces in with MW stones.
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Dach on January 12, 2013, 05:13:27 am
That's a mean build and a bit gay. Was thinking about it but decided to stick with balanced hybrid.

Yes and Yes.

But for a pretty average skilled player like me, it's the most efficient build!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Shemaforash on January 12, 2013, 04:47:29 pm
Str: 3
Agi: 47

Athletics: 15
Powerthrow: 1

Throwing: 123

Now charge people at mach 3 and railgun their faces in with MW stones.
or opposite with maximum strength :D
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: XyNox on January 12, 2013, 04:55:12 pm
or opposite with maximum strength :D

I would still like to see how fast you can run with 47 agi 15 athletics with no armor and just a practice dagger. Will it outrun sumpter horses ? I remember this guy called "Bystander" running around with 13 ath and when I first saw him I was like "What the fuck are you ??"
Title: Re: Level 35 ultimate build, part deux
Post by: Shemaforash on January 12, 2013, 06:11:29 pm
I would still like to see how fast you can run with 47 agi 15 athletics with no armor and just a practice dagger. Will it outrun sumpter horses ? I remember this guy called "Bystander" running around with 13 ath and when I first saw him I was like "What the fuck are you ??"

stupidly easy to dodge horses  :lol: