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Title: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Tigero on November 24, 2012, 10:37:43 am
12/13/14.12.12 It begins, the ultimate filmgasm of our time.

After fighting with theatre's website to buy tickets for half an hour i finally got em, and a decent place, even i didn't have the option to choose. Luckily that theatre has the technology to show it in 3D HFR format, i have faith in Peter Jackson and trust he knows what he is talking about and this is not some Warner Bros. marketing bullshit.

If someone is interested, PJ published production vlog 9 today on his FB page, and who knows maybe we get a third trailer before premiere.


Discuss, debate, fight

Some things that worry me about the trailers are the dwarfs' look, only Gloin looks like a dwarf to my eyes. CGI look, too much of it makes the movie cartoony. Radagast's rabbit sled, are you fking kidding me? Things that im exited about, Howard Shore's music, Rivendell, Dwarven singing! Fuggins can't wait.

Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Moncho on November 24, 2012, 10:54:57 am
The hobbit is alright, but 3 films?!?!??! WTF? The hobbit is a light adventure, not an epic story like the LotR trilogy. But money is very important...
I could maybe understand splitting it into 2, making some big battle scenes, but I seriously cannot see where the material for the third one will be...

Anyway, I might go and see it, but doubt it. Too monetised for my taste
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Tigero on November 24, 2012, 01:56:25 pm
The hobbit is alright, but 3 films?!?!??! WTF? The hobbit is a light adventure, not an epic story like the LotR trilogy. But money is very important...
I could maybe understand splitting it into 2, making some big battle scenes, but I seriously cannot see where the material for the third one will be...

Anyway, I might go and see it, but doubt it. Too monetised for my taste

Calm down, it's not all about money, and as a matter of fact Tolkien Enterprises took legal action against WB:s overmerchandising, which is awesome since I too hate these big profit driven companies. Now to the most important point. I understand how you feel, i thought the Hobbit will be way too slow paced until rumours started leaking, and now it has been confirmed for some time that The Hobbit will have extensive sideplot about Sauron and how he regained his power, known as Dol Guldur sideplot. I also bet that there will be more small information packackes spread throughout the story from the appendices.

Don't lose your hope, the trailer 2 and WB overall gives a bad taste about it, but i think PJ is still on control of the artistic part and will deliver a 15 oscar-worthy movie ;D
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on November 24, 2012, 04:50:08 pm
looks like shit.
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Post by: Overdriven on November 24, 2012, 05:31:05 pm
Gives me the chills every time:

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Post by: pingpong on November 24, 2012, 09:57:14 pm
so wait does this one has the gollum innit? if so its INSTANT OSCAR from me and a must watch, but srsly i've had enough midget bundle of sticksry in the past 3 movies, no more emoboylove sam and frodo romance please!
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Osiris on November 24, 2012, 10:29:16 pm
The hobbit is alright, but 3 films?!?!??! WTF? The hobbit is a light adventure, not an epic story like the LotR trilogy. But money is very important...
I could maybe understand splitting it into 2, making some big battle scenes, but I seriously cannot see where the material for the third one will be...

Anyway, I might go and see it, but doubt it. Too monetised for my taste


to be fair they might not miss so much stuff out. i was dissapointed at how much they missed in the Lotr
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Post by: Leshma on November 24, 2012, 10:35:29 pm
so wait does this one has the gollum innit? if so its INSTANT OSCAR from me and a must watch, but srsly i've had enough midget bundle of sticksry in the past 3 movies, no more emoboylove sam and frodo romance please!

There's a fucking talking dragon in this one. Smarter than both Saruman and Gandalf combined.
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Post by: Falka on November 25, 2012, 12:38:07 am
The hobbit is alright, but 3 films?!?!??! WTF? The hobbit is a light adventure, not an epic story like the LotR trilogy.
When they finish Hobbit they'll make remake of LotR (it's not trilogy): instead of 3 parts - 6! or even 9! Just imagine: Two towers: Beggining, Two towers: Rise of Rohan, Two towers: Fall of Saruman  8-)
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 25, 2012, 01:00:12 am
I like it being 3 parts, more to watch is hey okay with me because they will most likely all be worth every penny. I think they made it 3 parts instead of 2 to squeeze in more details and stuff so it doesnt turn out being a movie that is way different from the books (hate when this happens).
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Kafein on November 25, 2012, 01:35:55 am
Inb4 everybody claims it makes them feel like looking at what they recorded with their camcorder back in the 90's, or a cheap soap opera.


Either the 48 FPS thing is going to kill that movie, either The Hobbit is going to hit the taboo of movie framerates veyr hard.
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: pingpong on November 25, 2012, 03:08:58 pm
Inb4 everybody claims it makes them feel like looking at what they recorded with their camcorder back in the 90's, or a cheap soap opera.


Either the 48 FPS thing is going to kill that movie, either The Hobbit is going to hit the taboo of movie framerates veyr hard.

WHAT? has peter jackson gone mental? 48fps? usually movies are at 24-25ish fps, 48 must feel like on acid, well if its fighting scenes are cut properly and not like 007 Quantum of Solace WTFJUSTHAPPENDWHOSLEGSTHATIS, editing then i suppose its ok..
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Tigero on November 25, 2012, 04:01:42 pm
WHAT? has peter jackson gone mental? 48fps? usually movies are at 24-25ish fps, 48 must feel like on acid, well if its fighting scenes are cut properly and not like 007 Quantum of Solace WTFJUSTHAPPENDWHOSLEGSTHATIS, editing then i suppose its ok..

Quantum of Solace was utter shit, it's not the framerate's fault. How many ''OMGWTFBBQWHATSHAPPENING'' scenes were in LOTR? Propably 0-2, PJ knows how to make movies, and he knows that you don't have to radically change the style of filming just because it's not filmed with some 80 years old shit technology. 48 fps feels exactly the same, you just see things more clearly.

It's a shame really they didn't make LOTR in 4 parts or more, i guess they couldn't guess how much work ROTK was going to need, that's why it has faults and is a bit rushy, while TTT is very slow paced at times.
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Post by: Tot. on November 25, 2012, 04:35:21 pm
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Belgium    12 December 2012    
Denmark    12 December 2012    
Finland    12 December 2012    
France    12 December 2012    
Bosnia     13 December 2012    
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Poland    28 December 2012

FML
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Banok on November 26, 2012, 02:34:34 am
^Still ahead of other 3rd world countries.


but seriously I have some doubts about how they have adapted these films. the hobbit is a shortish childrens book, good but entirely different to lotr which is not entirely the same universe tbh.

but im still hyped to shit, nothing comes close to when the frst lotr film came out. I was 12 years old, and had read the books. I cant see a better book to film adaption ever being made.

even if the films suck I will still be glad for the soundtrack, more music to play the last days mod to.

Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Havoco on November 26, 2012, 03:53:22 am
so wait does this one has the gollum innit? if so its INSTANT OSCAR from me and a must watch, but srsly i've had enough midget bundle of sticksry in the past 3 movies, no more emoboylove sam and frodo romance please!

Well, considering there's gonna be a lot of dwarves in this one, I'd say there will be even more midgetbundle of sticksry.
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Banok on November 26, 2012, 05:24:36 am
dwarves and midgets are different, don't you know.
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Post by: Havoco on November 26, 2012, 07:46:45 am
dwarves and midgets are different, don't you know.

Different by about..... 10 inches?
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Falka on November 26, 2012, 11:13:32 am
I cant see a better book to film adaption ever being made.
Right off the top of my head: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, The Fight Club, The name of the rose, The Godfather.
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Post by: Molly on November 26, 2012, 12:09:21 pm
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Nerds...  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Leshma on November 26, 2012, 12:39:19 pm
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Nerds...  :rolleyes:

Nerds you say?

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Post by: Vibe on November 26, 2012, 12:51:37 pm
real spoilers!!!
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Post by: Molly on November 26, 2012, 01:05:52 pm
real spoilers!!!
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BAN HE!

Also...

Nerds you say?
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That's some kind of Live-RPG and that is just another whole different level... kinda unfair to bring that into this thread   :(
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: pingpong on November 26, 2012, 03:40:22 pm
Well, considering there's gonna be a lot of dwarves in this one, I'd say there will be even more midgetbundle of sticksry.

SO GIMLI is in this one?? BUT dwarves are masculine macho men, AFAIK their dwarf women have beards, so wait how can one tell the difference between a dwarf man and woman? I IS CONFUSED :|
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Post by: [ptx] on November 26, 2012, 03:52:12 pm
SO GIMLI is in this one?? BUT dwarves are masculine macho men, AFAIK their dwarf women have beards, so wait how can one tell the difference between a dwarf man and woman? I IS CONFUSED :|
This is why homosexuality is punishable by death in dwarven societies.
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Tigero on November 27, 2012, 04:31:13 pm
Holy shit the amount of trolls here, we'd need a couple of mighty dwarves to beat their asses'.
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Post by: B3RS3RK on November 27, 2012, 08:10:07 pm
i dont think it´s bad that it stretches out to 3 Films.I mean, hell, the biggest critic in most book-to-film movies is the shortened content cause its hard to press the plot of a book into one film alone.

In my Opinion, the more movies, the better.It´s not like I´d have to pay for it anyway  :lol:
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Post by: Teeth on November 27, 2012, 08:49:44 pm
Inb4 everybody claims it makes them feel like looking at what they recorded with their camcorder back in the 90's, or a cheap soap opera.


Either the 48 FPS thing is going to kill that movie, either The Hobbit is going to hit the taboo of movie framerates veyr hard.
Whenever I see a camcorder shot during regular tv I dread the moment when it turns back to regular TV framerate. I think it is utterly retarded that we have improved everything when it comes to visual and audio quality, but the framerate is still the same jerky shit since 1940.

I don't see at all how 24 fps is better than anything higher, and I dont see at all why people would hate 48 fps. You don't play video games at 24 fps, it's horrendous. I am glad The Hobbit is finally doing something half a century overdue.

Curse Jackson for giving us better visual quality!
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2012, 12:09:37 am
Whenever I see a camcorder shot during regular tv I dread the moment when it turns back to regular TV framerate. I think it is utterly retarded that we have improved everything when it comes to visual and audio quality, but the framerate is still the same jerky shit since 1940.

I don't see at all how 24 fps is better than anything higher, and I dont see at all why people would hate 48 fps. You don't play video games at 24 fps, it's horrendous. I am glad The Hobbit is finally doing something half a century overdue.

Curse Jackson for giving us better visual quality!

I'm not saying 48FPS is bad, I'm saying everyone that saw at least one 24FPS movie in their life will feel the difference. Usually people that are not experts tend to say it doesn't look real (aka you really feel it's just actors doing their job).
Title: Re: The Hobbit is near...
Post by: Leesin on November 28, 2012, 11:38:01 am
^Still ahead of other 3rd world countries.


but seriously I have some doubts about how they have adapted these films. the hobbit is a shortish childrens book, good but entirely different to lotr which is not entirely the same universe tbh.

but im still hyped to shit, nothing comes close to when the frst lotr film came out. I was 12 years old, and had read the books. I cant see a better book to film adaption ever being made.

even if the films suck I will still be glad for the soundtrack, more music to play the last days mod to.

Not entirely the same universe.. really? I'm surprised you've read all of the books if that's the conclusion you have come too, considering The Hobbit sets the stage for LOTR and the main character is Bilbo Baggins who is adoptive parent and relative of Frodo Baggins, who is the 'main' character of LOTR. These movies are going to be as awesome as the LOTR movies without a doubt.
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Post by: Prpavi on November 28, 2012, 12:39:57 pm
Hobbit gonna suck ass and will be even gayer than lotr... there I said it bring it!

Frodo lovers...
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Post by: Chagan_Arslan on November 28, 2012, 01:28:55 pm
it wont be gay if they'll have Balrog in it, the dude is 100% straight
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Post by: djavo on November 30, 2012, 08:24:49 pm
This will be a huge hit in Italy, lot of hobbits there.
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Post by: Prinz_Karl on November 30, 2012, 09:00:41 pm
All the exaggerated exitement is coming from those who are playing the new movies up by expecting new Lord of the rings but who don't understand Tolkien and his messages at all.

I'm sure they will be dissapointed if The Hobbit doesn't provide that much battle material but I'm sure Peter Jackson will succeed in making it interesting for the battle hungry group anyway, he is a master in hitting many interests groups.

I'm looking forward to watch the movie to see another book by Tolkien being filmed by Peter Jackson. I like the battles and all but I also like the occultism the movies and books create.


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Post by: Joseph Porta on December 01, 2012, 12:06:21 am
I am so excited! And I just can't hide it!
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Post by: EponiCo on December 01, 2012, 12:47:14 am
Not entirely the same universe.. really? I'm surprised you've read all of the books if that's the conclusion you have come too, considering The Hobbit sets the stage for LOTR and the main character  is Bilbo Baggins who is adoptive parent and relative of Frodo Baggins, who is the 'main' character of LOTR. These movies are going to be as awesomeas the LOTR movies without a doubt.

It doesn't set the stage or was even intended to. It was just a children book he wrote and later he decided to make much more serious books about it afaik. And the universe does change a lot. Not so much in plain fact, but in tone. But there isn't really that much in common in the first place. You've got the ring, about which they later find out isn't a handy little thing but the doomingly dooming doomthing of doom. And then there's Gandalf (I think in the Hobbit Gandalf hides on a tree from wolves for like days, in LOTR wolves hide on a tree from Gandalf). The few others are really minor characters.
I am pretty sure the movie will follow the tone of LOTR and be full of action and drama and people screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and that's good but for the same reason I'd think that people picking up the book after watching it will be like wtf.
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Post by: Leesin on December 01, 2012, 02:44:56 am
It doesn't set the stage or was even intended to. It was just a children book he wrote and later he decided to make much more serious books about it afaik. And the universe does change a lot. Not so much in plain fact, but in tone. But there isn't really that much in common in the first place. You've got the ring, about which they later find out isn't a handy little thing but the doomingly dooming doomthing of doom. And then there's Gandalf (I think in the Hobbit Gandalf hides on a tree from wolves for like days, in LOTR wolves hide on a tree from Gandalf). The few others are really minor characters.
I am pretty sure the movie will follow the tone of LOTR and be full of action and drama and people screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and that's good but for the same reason I'd think that people picking up the book after watching it will be like wtf.

It does set the stage, it's the beginning, just because it was not originally intended to do so does not mean that it now isn't. He adapted the original The Hobbit book to accompany the future books after he was approached to write more. Any fantasy universe made this way has a beginning where it does not detail everything, a single book, just one story, which is the beginning, i.e The Hobbit. The universe did not "change alot", because there was not much of a universe yet, just that alot more of the universe needed to be created, it was and it flourished.

Yes, things like characters and/or actions differ in The Hobbit because it is tamer and was originally intended as a kids story, but it still doesn't mean it is any less a part of the tolkien universe "middle earth", just an immature unsure start. But the basic route of the story will be there, even if the movie will probably add and alter a bunch of stuff, it's still going to be "The Hobbit", just one more fitting to the current Universe and also the "state" of the movies, i.e more fighting, a more entertaing movie for adults aswell as kids. The LOTR movies have alot of shit that didn't happen in the books and also miss out alot of stuff that happened in the books, but they are still awesome movies.
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Post by: Kafein on December 01, 2012, 01:14:44 pm
Inb4 Jackson starts making Silmarillion short films.
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Post by: Tigero on December 12, 2012, 10:06:26 pm
Just watched the film... and i've neved had this mixed feelings about a movie...

The adaptation was great, effects were solid, 3d 48fps made me forget where i am, character development was nice although too rough at times, but the content was missing... A shame that such a great expirience was lamed by lack of storytelling, but you can't blame only PJ/writers, Hobbit is not the best book to adapt to movie. Wish they only made a LOTR remake this beautiful...
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 13, 2012, 07:09:30 pm
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The Hobbit is near...

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Post by: Tigero on December 13, 2012, 09:16:55 pm
I can't modify the title anymore :D
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Post by: Varadin on December 14, 2012, 01:15:04 pm
Watched it yesterday , everything is epic, story , advanture, effects , landscapes everything , expect they made it a bit of comedy as well , talking Trolls and Goblins, shame ;(
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Post by: Kafein on December 14, 2012, 01:17:34 pm
I heard it's nice to watch after reading the book, I read the book but didn't watch yet. Opinions about this ?
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Post by: Tigero on December 14, 2012, 02:53:51 pm
I heard it's nice to watch after reading the book, I read the book but didn't watch yet. Opinions about this ?

I think you should read it first, just so that you know what it is about, it's not LOTR, it's not as epic and great storywise but it's an amazing movie expirience nontheless! (just watch it it 3D 48fps, don't mind about the film conservative 24fps 35mm film is the best-idiots  :wink: )
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Post by: Kafein on December 14, 2012, 03:33:15 pm
I think you should read it first, just so that you know what it is about, it's not LOTR, it's not as epic and great storywise but it's an amazing movie expirience nontheless! (just watch it it 3D 48fps, don't mind about the film conservative 24fps 35mm film is the best-idiots  :wink: )

I read the book a looong time ago, and yeah I plan on watching it the modern way.
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 14, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Well worth the money, cant wait for the next one :D

I dont quite like the 3d though, never did but i had to give it another shot. LOVE the framerate increase, looks beautiful. The movie itself is as expected very good, but i hate that lots of people laugh at stuff that really isnt that funny, oh well..
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Post by: Grumbs on December 15, 2012, 03:57:59 pm
I liked the 3d..had nothing to compare it to though. It just felt a bit blurry sometimes but was quite unique, I would go see a 3d movie again

People were laughing at everything to do with Gollum, and
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Post by: Kafein on December 15, 2012, 06:29:07 pm
Reading those comment now I want to make sure I will see it in a desert movie theater.
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Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 15, 2012, 09:19:57 pm
Imo a pretty good movie! It was fun to watch, the story, while not amazing was solid. The effects, acting, cgi, costumes, set, everything like that was amazing.

Spoilers:
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Post by: Rumblood on December 15, 2012, 09:54:19 pm
I watched it in 2D. 3D sucks balls in every movie I've seen so I was not about to let that ruin the experience.

Myself and my 2 teenagers thought it was a really good movie.

On the dwarves, only Kili made you go "that's not a dwarf."

On the story, PJ took some liberties, but only some and it made for a better flow through the story.

Orcs and Goblins should really have been given more of a visual difference. I can see neophytes not getting that they were 2 different factions.

Otherwise, very happy with the film. Plenty for real Tolkien fans, as well as casual movie goers. (And reading some comments in this thread, plenty of people here who have no clue, but plenty of opinion. Please just stop commenting on Tolkien stories and just watch the movie. Because you aren't a Tolkien fan. You just like good films.)

Looking forward to the next segment.
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Post by: Grumbs on December 15, 2012, 10:10:02 pm
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Post by: Knute on December 16, 2012, 01:09:29 am
I went in with lower expectations because of the early reviews but ended up really enjoyed it.  Just like King Kong though, it felt like a directors cut because of the length but overall was still very good.     
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 16, 2012, 01:30:07 am
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Post by: Rumblood on December 16, 2012, 09:42:21 am
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Post by: Elmuri on December 16, 2012, 10:17:14 am
Maybe some spoilers


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Post by: BASNAK on December 16, 2012, 11:35:50 pm
Watched the movie today in 3D. I was thrown out after 30 minutes of watching because of all the buckets I came over how awesome it was.

No but seriously the movie was awesome, can't wait till next part :D
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Post by: enigmatic_stranger on December 17, 2012, 05:24:11 pm
Orcs and Goblins should really have been given more of a visual difference. I can see neophytes not getting that they were 2 different factions.
http://tolkien.cro.net/orcs/goblins.html
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Post by: Rumblood on December 17, 2012, 06:19:20 pm
http://tolkien.cro.net/orcs/goblins.html

Yeah, Tolkien fucked it all up. Too late to change your mind after you've gone to print pal! You don't call someone The Goblin King, and then later try to say he is simply an Orc that calls himself a Goblin instead that isn't actually a King, but some kind of chieftain. :rolleyes: