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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Harpag on October 28, 2012, 11:41:10 am

Title: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Harpag on October 28, 2012, 11:41:10 am
I don't recall when someone was so good for us. We are really surprised by your generosity. We don't know what to say. Simple "thank you" is probably not enough  :wink:

Last night we received from you thousands of pieces of equipment, including hundreds of pieces items such as Siege Ladders, Large Wooden Ladders, Construction Materials and Sites, Siege Shields and a lot of armours (nearly a thousand pieces of Byrnie only) and tons of weapons (special thanks for many hundreds of axes +3 and horses).

I'm afraid that Bushido and Autobus will be unhappy, because I think it was originally a gift for them.

Remember Mechin  :twisted:

Ericson_z_Biskupina_the_Grey vs Mechin
- Battle time: 28.10., 02:20
- Battle duration: 01m45s
- Army size: 1600 vs 2270
- Battle result: 370 vs 247
- Winner: Attacker

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesparticipated#!?page=battleroster&id=1058   :)
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: HarunYahya on October 28, 2012, 01:29:04 pm
It was the best battle in this strat so far.
Challenging ,fun and rewarding exp-wise .
GGWP both sides.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Iymore on October 28, 2012, 02:13:55 pm
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Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Stabby_Dave on October 28, 2012, 02:40:43 pm
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HOW???
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Falka on October 28, 2012, 03:08:29 pm
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And? I'd say they did pretty well taking into account circumstances :rolleyes:
               
GO's gear:                                                                                                                                   SoA's armors:
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And SoA didn't even have enough armors for all troops. In normal cRPG heavy armors are ok, but in strat when almost whole army have 70 body armor it's truly OP.

In current state small factions can leave strat right now, they have no chance to earn enough gold to buy such equipment. I thought that chadz wanted to encourage smaller clans to participate in strat. Seems it doesn't work.

Also, why eastern block does nothing? Are they waiting for UIF to come to their homes? They will, there's no doubt.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Silicium on October 28, 2012, 03:14:36 pm
Pecores_DANTON_Q   1   41

HOW???
bugged items, the archers weren't able to select any types of arrows from the selection menu, so we had to pick them up from the ground at first.
while being charged by the enemy cav, it's one of the most fucked up battle i ever played, even if both army's had the same issue.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Falka on October 28, 2012, 03:20:16 pm
bugged items, the archers weren't able to select any types of arrows from the selection menu, so we had to pick them up from the ground at first.
while being charged by the enemy cav, it's one of the most fucked up battle i ever played, even if both army's had the same issue.
SoA had too many types of gear.

There is an inventory "slot" limit. Once you get past it, stuff at the bottom (so starts at siege/range item row) becomes unaccessible.

Now with 4 new degrees of negative quality mixed in, and gear being looted, people are gonna be hitting this cap real fast in the field.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Silicium on October 28, 2012, 03:38:41 pm
SoA had too many types of gear.
No shit.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Stabby_Dave on October 28, 2012, 03:39:15 pm
bugged items, the archers weren't able to select any types of arrows from the selection menu, so we had to pick them up from the ground at first.
while being charged by the enemy cav, it's one of the most fucked up battle i ever played, even if both army's had the same issue.

Ah, makes more sense now.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Iymore on October 28, 2012, 03:40:54 pm
don't buy lots of shit again then
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Nebun on October 28, 2012, 03:42:48 pm
Half the battle SoA had Surcoat over Mail and better headgear, not that it matters

Vendetta had the same problem with equipment on siege. They had so many different items, that they couldn't even take ladders and construction sites. So we had to kill eachother on spawn for few minutes to get rid of some equipment and to be able to take siege stuff.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Kirman on October 28, 2012, 03:55:32 pm


If you were in battle you know that there was tons of pikeman and great maul on defenders. At this point armor isnt important. It was really fun battle. I hope there will be more battles like this. We might win or lose i dont care i had FUN. Good job for both sides.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 03:58:43 pm
I wish Strat was less buggy, or not at all, because then you would be rid (almost) of these poor behaviours from both sides of the war. :(
Gloating about other side getting bugs and crying about fairplay etc. It's pathetic.

Generally, it would be more enjoyable to play Strategus then.



Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Tyr_ on October 28, 2012, 04:52:47 pm
Half the battle SoA had Surcoat over Mail and better headgear, not that it matters


Russian time feeling is awesome^^. SoA had 200 Surcoat over mail and 200 Zitta Bascinet, which were transfered to the Village by one of our trade caravans passing by. Since SoA lost far more than 400 tickets it wasnt 50% of the time we spent in heavy equipment. You basicly attacked a lighty armed/armed village with shiny armed troops, not that big of an achievement I'd say.

As you said SoA had too many low lvl items in their village, not only that we couldnt use siege equipment which is annoying but not essencial, we also had no access to any kind of ammonition for our range for the first ~30 minutes, which was a real pain in the ass.

Also, why eastern block does nothing? Are they waiting for UIF to come to their homes? They will, there's no doubt.

As i said, we transfered 200 heavy armed tickets into the Village, if we would have known about the exact situation in the Village we would have been able to transfer an addition of 800 heavy armor sets & weapons from our caravan to the Village, unfortunately we couldnt get any further informations within the reinforcement time.
With this 1000 Heavy armed troops it would have been quite easy to hold the village against the first attack and give us time to move more resources down.
Too bad that all the ranged equipment was blocked by stuff like clubs and spiked maces.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Oberyn on October 28, 2012, 05:14:55 pm
Classic UIF, brag about battles they fight when they have overwhelming gear superiority. You don't see them bragging about their shitty ass scores on the few battles they fight with even equip of course. "Challenging" my ass. UIF modus operandi is to avoid anything that might be even slightly challenging. Pikes and longspear just glance constantly on that armor, of course it was a fun battle for those who could just plow into enemy lines and spam to their heart's content without having to worry about blocking.

Many hundreds of horses left? What are you smoking Harpag? Are you sure you're not thinking of the hordes of warhorses you brought yourselves? And what is this better headgear that's superior to the sugarloaf helms UIF was using the whole battle, and the transitional armor? "At this point armor isn't important", hilarious.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Iymore on October 28, 2012, 05:16:31 pm
my military sickle is not glance with 3 ps and 1 wpf^^
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Oberyn on October 28, 2012, 05:24:01 pm
Maybe because you weren't trying to hit people wearing transitional armor, plate boots and gloves and sugarloaf helms? Hur Dur.What was the quality of that equip I wonder?
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Iymore on October 28, 2012, 05:25:57 pm
Maybe because you weren't trying to hit people wearing transitional armor, plate boots and gloves and sugarloaf helms? Hur Dur.What was the quality of that equip I wonder?
it won't glance with 50-55 armor but ofc it will glance on 70 armor. But you guys have atleats 6ps and half of you have 150ish wpf so
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Crob28 on October 28, 2012, 05:40:04 pm
For those who say armor is unimportant, look at it this way :

In the gear of the defenders, most players, on average, would die in 2-3 hits, obv sometimes it would take more, sometimes less, lets say though that it takes 3 hits to kill a defender.

2270 x 3 = 6810 hits that the defenders in total are able to endure.

Now looking at the gear of the attackers, I would say that most players would be able to take 4-5 hits before going down, again sometimes less, sometimes more, but again lets take 5 as the number.

1600 x 5 = 8000 hits that the attackers in total are able to endure.

In other words, the difference in gear was enough to, in effect, give the numerical advantage to the attackers.

In any case, gg to both sides, I'm sad I couldn't make it :(
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2012, 05:40:57 pm
it won't glance with 50-55 armor but ofc it will glance on 70 armor. But you guys have atleats 6ps and half of you have 150ish wpf so

Nice numbers, pulled them out of your ass?
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Iymore on October 28, 2012, 05:47:59 pm
Nice numbers, pulled them out of your ass?
kuyak-wisby is like 50-55(if they are +3 or something) and there is lots of tincans :mrgreen: sg
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: HarunYahya on October 28, 2012, 07:55:52 pm
My fucking god how do you people live in real life ?
Constant crying in every fucking thread.
Why do you keep playing if you don't enjoy the damn game ?
Spoiled  boylovers...
Grey order had better gear so what ? You could collect the same amount of strat gold as they did , let me give you a quick tip : Trading.
I can't fucking believe people whine about their enemy had better gear , its like it's Grey Order's fault lol.

Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Haboe on October 28, 2012, 10:33:57 pm
It was the best battle in this strat so far.
Challenging ,fun and rewarding exp-wise .
GGWP both sides.

You know you were in heraldic transitional armors vs byrny's right? Don't quite get the chalenging part, but fun battle indeed. As a 1hander it was a pain in the ass since we were limited to mostly cut damage weps though.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 28, 2012, 11:48:32 pm
I can't fucking believe people whine about their enemy had better gear , its like it's Grey Order's fault lol.

But it is Grey Orders fault ! They know what their doing and they played strat efficient since start, its not fair to the lemmings on the other side :cry:

specially not fair to the lieing scum SoA   
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: SoA_Sir_ODHarry on October 29, 2012, 12:06:22 am
pl what  :D
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Torben on October 29, 2012, 12:09:11 am
Don't quite get the chalenging part

i think soa put up a decent fight,  specially considering their limited options.  thats why : )
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 29, 2012, 03:43:57 am
specially not fair to the lieing scum SoA

What those lieing scum SoA that your faction told that they had no problems with them settling in current denbitre area? The SoA that you then proceeded to bully into giving up those lands by giving an ultimatum; big faction threatening a small one? The SoA, that after accepting your exorbitant and unjust terms, that were attacked by you after giving a promise of free passage? Who lost all their gains because of this?

Check the facts. Andswaru has been fair and reasonable in many ways this strat, but this was not a shining example of those attributes. It was rather a 'dick move', if you ask me. Im not sure you have alot of moral highground to stand on.


Also a question to greys. Hourglass gauntlets and iron greaves? Was your army equipper over enthusiastic, or is money simply not an issue for you guys?  :D
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 29, 2012, 06:57:13 am
I remember in strat 3 we had the same issues. I told Noc il buy 100 Cd Keys and start a Bot war with the greys.
Noc would not let me do it because it would have destroyed Strat and cRPG.

With that we would have that equipment too Muff.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Harpag on October 29, 2012, 10:49:06 am
Bwahaha... if you want QQ 24/7 265 days in year - feel free  :wink:  It's a big pleasure to watch these streams of tears  :)
Soon we will send a lot more shiny armies and crush you all one by one. We will take your land and you cunts will only QQ on forum. Good luck  :twisted:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Perverz on October 29, 2012, 10:56:23 am
Bwahaha... if you want QQ 24/7 265 days in year - feel free  :wink:  It's a big pleasure to watch these streams of tears  :)
Soon we will send a lot more shiny armies and crush you all one by one. We will take your land and you cunts will only QQ on forum. Good luck  :twisted:

365 if u didnt know
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Andswaru on October 29, 2012, 11:06:26 am
Poland is still using Mayan Calendar system.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Vovka on October 29, 2012, 11:07:46 am
365 if u didnt know
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Cmon guys just create a healthy economy and fight  :twisted:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Vovka on October 29, 2012, 11:08:17 am
 :rolleyes: oops double post
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Haboe on October 29, 2012, 11:10:22 am
Cmon guys just create a healthy economy and fight  :twisted:

We did, but its hard to keep up if you only are in charge of 1 account.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Andswaru on October 29, 2012, 11:12:55 am
We did, but its hard to keep up if you only are in charge of 1 account.

Nord managed  :P
But Haboe when you think about it Greys have more or less just turtled up since the start of the round what were you guys expecting happen when you let them do that for the first month :D
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Vovka on October 29, 2012, 11:15:30 am
We did, but its hard to keep up if you only are in charge of 1 account.
is the most popular excuse for losers from beginning of the first strat
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Harpag on October 29, 2012, 11:17:04 am
365 if u didnt know

No shit, I didn't knew, thank you Gnjus   :lol:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Gingerpussy on October 29, 2012, 11:34:20 am
Not replying to guys like u anymore.

I bet i still can ruin all the fun for Drz and greys and Nords very very soon.



Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Tuetensuppe on October 29, 2012, 11:51:36 am
No shit, I didn't knew, thank you Perverz  :lol:

fixed for harpag!


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Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Perverz on October 29, 2012, 11:52:06 am
No shit, I didn't knew, thank you Gnjus   :lol:

lol its not gnjus......
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: dodnet on October 29, 2012, 12:05:17 pm
365 if u didnt know

Grey bots refuse to work on weekends  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Rebelyell on October 29, 2012, 12:15:48 pm
Not replying to guys like u anymore.

I bet i still can ruin all the fun for Drz and greys and Nords very very soon.
cant wait
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: HarunYahya on October 29, 2012, 12:18:01 pm
We did, but its hard to keep up if you only are in charge of 1 account.
I'll buy you a warband key and gift it to you if that'll quit your QQ.
O wait , i enjoy your QQ !  :lol:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Perverz on October 29, 2012, 12:21:10 pm
gnjus asked me to post this how we are brothers in nose couldnt say no:


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i love it how that fat turkish scum harun yahia keeps writing about QQ from the other side while at the same time he does nothing in his life except getting more and more fat, one of these days that obese son of a bitch is gonna drop dead from a heart attack in his 20's but he will still be convinced that it was Bashies who made all the difference
and Greys superior "tactics", with their braindamaged leader who doesnt even know how many days there are in a full year and cant make a proper forum post without the help of an online translator. Just look at this guy: http://forum.meleegaming.com/profile/?u=16779  a typical polish gamer, member of the Grey Order (i wonder if they're all like him), a pale-skinned poker-eyed fair-haired balding uber geek who (despite being as nerdish as it can get) somehow still hasnt overcome that fearcome mental challenge called "learning English", which in a civilized countries is a pre-requisite even for cleaning toilets. Luckily for them - online translators seem to be getting better and better so one of these days they will be good enough for all the Harpags of this world.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Haboe on October 29, 2012, 12:37:19 pm
I'll buy you a warband key and gift it to you if that'll quit your QQ.
O wait , i enjoy your QQ !  :lol:

I have access to multiple accounts of friends that stopped if i want to. I didn't use them, i don't use them and i won't use them. I won't sink as low i this game as you, Fair play or no play.
I second in gingers actions.


Not replying to guys like u anymore.

I bet i still can ruin all the fun for Drz and greys and Nords very very soon.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: HarunYahya on October 29, 2012, 01:16:11 pm
gnjus
See you even QQ about my life ...
Too much sadness and crying will give you cancer Gnjus , just sayin' .

I have access to multiple accounts of friends that stopped if i want to. I didn't use them, i don't use them and i won't use them. I won't sink as low i this game as you, Fair play or no play.
I second in gingers actions.


Ok then mr honoroble knight , guardian of ethics , saviour of humanity and defender of justice , learn to lose properly like a man aswell. Without blind accusations , constant cry about how you suck and how your opponent wins . It is easy to accuse anyone without any hard facts and crying about how your faction is smaller than grey order and such.Guess what WE DONT GIVE A FUCK.
Actually no one gives a fuck not even your beloved "coalition" you boylovers are fighting against UIF from the first day of strat so you choose to be our enemies now face the consequences like a fucking man.You love to shittalk i see , you are probably a fucking teenager with pride otherwise it's far more worse .
I enjoy watching you cry though it gives me smile all day erryday its like losing a football match then crying about referee how big is your opponent how many stars they have blablabla NO ONE CARES if you lost , it's your fault .
I always imagine you kids like this :
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I always laugh when i picturize this pic , thanks to you folks i picturize this a lot in this section of forum  :lol:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Bjord on October 29, 2012, 01:21:25 pm
Calm down, mate. Breathe in, breathe out. It's going to be all right.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: HarunYahya on October 29, 2012, 01:28:20 pm
Here (http://b1210.hizliresim.com/12/x/fduhn.jpg) , cry over this subject now.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Casimir on October 29, 2012, 01:44:26 pm
I fart at all of you, you all suck.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Tyr_ on October 29, 2012, 01:55:18 pm
Koyama, please, before you go on like this, do something in strat. The only turkish armies in the north belong to kapi or john and Pande, havent seen Bashi up here so far, maybe too cold or no mountain goats up here^^.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Rebelyell on October 29, 2012, 02:02:08 pm
Koyama, please, before you go on like this, do something in strat. The only turkish armies in the north belong to kapi or john and Pande, havent seen Bashi up here so far, maybe too cold or no mountain goats up here^^.
Tyr that is totally Pointless, just wait.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: dodnet on October 29, 2012, 02:07:39 pm
Koyama, please, before you go on like this, do something in strat. The only turkish armies in the north belong to kapi or john and Pande, havent seen Bashi up here so far, maybe too cold or no mountain goats up here^^.

Big brother DRZ just forgot to tell them what to do. So they're sitting in their castles and waiting till the end of days strat.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Tuetensuppe on October 29, 2012, 02:31:13 pm
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the intresting fact is, that no one is crying or raging for the moment, except you ;)

seriously > you argue in a way wich looks for me like cicero is dictating you what to write down as long he is muted...  :rolleyes:

anyway > these threads are entertainment enough for everytime i sit on my toilet and just read the forum because im bored...



pls dont stop and carry on!
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Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Harpag on October 29, 2012, 03:08:57 pm
lol its not gnjus......

gnjus asked me to post this how we are brothers in nose couldnt say no:

Come on Gnjus, one glance at the nose and everything is clear - another key and damn cheater. Next time cover the face you moron  :lol:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 29, 2012, 03:21:21 pm
What those lieing scum SoA that your faction told that they had no problems with them settling in current denbitre area? The SoA that you then proceeded to bully into giving up those lands by giving an ultimatum; big faction threatening a small one? The SoA, that after accepting your exorbitant and unjust terms, that were attacked by you after giving a promise of free passage? Who lost all their gains because of this?

Check the facts. Andswaru has been fair and reasonable in many ways this strat, but this was not a shining example of those attributes. It was rather a 'dick move', if you ask me. Im not sure you have alot of moral highground to stand on.


Also a question to greys. Hourglass gauntlets and iron greaves? Was your army equipper over enthusiastic, or is money simply not an issue for you guys?  :D

1. Dont recall ANY nord attacking the SoA, they all had free passage out of our lands, IF they didnt NONE of them would make it out of our land !

2. We NEVER told them anything was for certain, i know this cause i was the one talking with the SoA who dropped in one day to set up a meeting they never showed up for.

3. We even let them know that we cant let them stay in our land, there was never any backstabbing

4. When SoA then attack Nords and the battle bugs out, we had a 2k army standing on top of Shanks for 5 hours, not locking him down cause we agreed they could keep half of it to be fair, Shanks changed hes mind though after you Mercs once again whispered poision in his ear about Some other bugged battle where we didnt give your horses back?? For all i know you lemmings just didnt reinforce your army in time and got what you deserved !

5. Yep im pretty sure i have alot of moral highground to stand on, specially knowing that it didnt take more than four people to make us millions of golds seeing how you guys think you need multi accounting to have a chance makes me laugh HARD, !

6. If Strat gold is still and issue for you  VV
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I think i got all the facts covered there, if i missed anything please let me know so i can enlighten you.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Perverz on October 29, 2012, 03:57:41 pm
Come on Gnjus, one glance at the nose and everything is clear - another key and damn cheater. Next time cover the face you moron  :lol:

lol harpag do u realy think gnjus or me have multy accounts like you greys and druzina?
cmn....ROFL!!!!


im not gnjus and gnjus is not me.....
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Noctivagant on October 29, 2012, 04:18:29 pm
Actually no one gives a fuck not even your beloved "coalition" you boylovers are fighting against UIF from the first day of strat so you choose to be our enemies now face the consequences like a fucking man.

Just lol, sure we chose to be your enemies, it wasn't you guys who were just carebearing, gangbanging people and on top of that duplicating gold. Nooo no no no, we chose to be your enemies, it's our fault, everything is our fault anyway.

Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Noctivagant on October 29, 2012, 04:20:10 pm
It was our fault that now cRPG players has to play on public to grind in Strategus
Its also our fault that  pumping up prosperity exploit is fixed
Everything is our fault.

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Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Moncho on October 29, 2012, 04:29:55 pm
Daily EU drama thread
I do not want to read the forums, but it is so damn entertaining...
Keep it up boys!
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 29, 2012, 04:48:31 pm
1. Dont recall ANY nord attacking the SoA, they all had free passage out of our lands, IF they didnt NONE of them would make it out of our land !

2. We NEVER told them anything was for certain, i know this cause i was the one talking with the SoA who dropped in one day to set up a meeting they never showed up for.

3. We even let them know that we cant let them stay in our land, there was never any backstabbing

4. When SoA then attack Nords and the battle bugs out, we had a 2k army standing on top of Shanks for 5 hours, not locking him down cause we agreed they could keep half of it to be fair, Shanks changed hes mind though after you Mercs once again whispered poision in his ear about Some other bugged battle where we didnt give your horses back?? For all i know you lemmings just didnt reinforce your army in time and got what you deserved !

5. Yep im pretty sure i have alot of moral highground to stand on, specially knowing that it didnt take more than four people to make us millions of golds seeing how you guys think you need multi accounting to have a chance makes me laugh HARD, !

6. If Strat gold is still and issue for you  VV
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I think i got all the facts covered there, if i missed anything please let me know so i can enlighten you.


Well yes actually.

1. Yes, the nords did, and SoA lost all their equipment. There was even a huge whine thread about it, ask cooties.
2. Yes, the nords did. I know this because it was I who talked with andswaru and cooties and negotiated it.
3. No, the nords didnt. See first point, attacked as they were passing through.

Im not arguing the fairness of either faction overall in strat, as, for the most part nords have been acting fairly in my opinion. But Im arguing that what nords did there was a massive dick move, and andswaru and cooties know it.

Anyways, I dont wanna get drawn into a UIFvs antiUIF discussion with harpag and co. I just want to defend a relatively small faction who have had a lot of shit done to them, and get a bad reputation from a retalliation.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 29, 2012, 04:58:55 pm
No discussion just drawing facts i assume, but you just draw conclussions from stuff you cant have seen with your own eyes cause no Nord attacked SoA, i want to see a screen before i believe it, or any other valuable infomation that backs up your case, i repeat NO NORDMEN attacked SoA people, we only claimed the fiefs that belonged to us, if they dont obey Remove Them, simple logic really...

Nyways if the bigger bully cant bully the smaller bully what is the reason in growing into a big bully then?
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 29, 2012, 05:05:12 pm
Me neither but you just drawing conclussions from asumptions you cant have seen with your own eyes cause no Nord attacked SoA, i want to see a screen before i believe it, or any other valuable infomation that backs up your case, i repeat NO NORDMEN attacked SoA people, we only claimed the fiefs that belongs to us !

I'm sure the forum warriors can prove you wrong! Don't tangle up in the forum wars if you are faint of heart! You'll be chewed up and left for dead faster than Shogunate rage quit.

And if you wanna waste your life: Use the Previous battles listing/battles tab in strat. You can see quickly whether what you say is true or not.

Also, you guys suck, WE NEED MORE DRAMA! I wish the mercs could do what they did in strat 1 and just sell themselves(and their armies) for gold to attack people. EU strat lost it's loving feeling, at least i'm carrying on the tradition.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Tuetensuppe on October 29, 2012, 05:08:37 pm
Also, you guys suck, WE NEED MORE DRAMA!

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Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 29, 2012, 05:29:23 pm
Ask cooties or andswaru or shanks if you do not believe me.  :)
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 29, 2012, 05:32:44 pm
It was our fault that now cRPG players has to play on public to grind in Strategus
Its also our fault that  pumping up prosperity exploit is fixed
Everything is our fault.

Thanks for making strat way more efficient for us Nords, and ofcourse if your to blame for the PP reset i must thank you another time!  8-)

Ask cooties or andswaru or shanks if you do not believe me.  :)

Talking with all 3 on a daily basis fyi, and im still waiting in anticipation for any infomation backing up your words, i do believe that You believe what your saying is the truth, i just feel deep down that i have to tell you, that it doesnt mather how much shit you let out the shit will still be shit !
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: HarunYahya on October 29, 2012, 06:52:22 pm
The only turkish armies in the north belong to kapi or john and Pande, havent seen Bashi up here so far, maybe too cold or no mountain goats up here^^.
Who said we are going north ? :) Talk to your allies more often , they'll tell you about my armies and their positions.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Tyr_ on October 29, 2012, 07:41:30 pm
Every word you say makes you look more stupid...
This thread is about the SoA getting attacked in the NORTH, nothing about the desert, think before post.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: HarunYahya on October 29, 2012, 07:45:38 pm
Every word you say makes you look more stupid...
This thread is about the SoA getting attacked in the NORTH, nothing about the desert, think before post.
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Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on October 29, 2012, 08:21:23 pm
Nords made an agreement with SoA, whereapon they kept the village of aldelen and had safe passage through nord lands. They then reneged apon this agreement because there were 3 SoA players on an enemy roster and declared war.

Proof here on shanks post. http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/eu-strat-battle-from-0912/msg635681/#msg635681

3 people, not even leaders on another side of a formerly neutral strat battle, is a reason to declare war? This is extremely transparent.

The SoA were then attacked in their village of Aldelen, and one of the retreating SoA with the majority of SoA equip was also attacked as far as I recall.
You can say,'oh it was their fault that we did it', but the fact of the matter is that war was declared over 3 people in a roster, and your negotiations with SoA over their fiefs held no restrictions on roster support. It was abundantly clear what happened to anyone with eyes despite your justifications, and as you put it, no amount of bullshit, stops it being bullshit.

Last post on it, just remember it is not so black and white with nords and SoA. Theres much more greys involved. And yes, that was an awful pun.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: dodnet on October 29, 2012, 08:47:49 pm
Who said we are going north ? :) Talk to your allies more often , they'll tell you about my armies and their positions.

Bashis are trying to take Ni's castle which is now at a quite save position for them to scratch DRZ's back later :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: dodnet on October 29, 2012, 09:02:26 pm
Bashis are trying to take Ni's castle which is now at a quite save position for them to scratch DRZ's back later :mrgreen:

Just noticed its a raid... lol, you are so lame. You can be really proud now  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Crob28 on October 29, 2012, 09:26:48 pm
Just noticed its a raid... lol, you are so lame. You can be really proud now  :rolleyes:

Raids need to be removed or reworked
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 29, 2012, 11:49:02 pm
Nords made an agreement with SoA, whereapon they kept the village of aldelen and had safe passage through nord lands. They then reneged apon this agreement because there were 3 SoA players on an enemy roster and declared war.

Proof here on shanks post. http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/eu-strat-battle-from-0912/msg635681/#msg635681

3 people, not even leaders on another side of a formerly neutral strat battle, is a reason to declare war? This is extremely transparent.

The SoA were then attacked in their village of Aldelen, and one of the retreating SoA with the majority of SoA equip was also attacked as far as I recall.
You can say,'oh it was their fault that we did it', but the fact of the matter is that war was declared over 3 people in a roster, and your negotiations with SoA over their fiefs held no restrictions on roster support. It was abundantly clear what happened to anyone with eyes despite your justifications, and as you put it, no amount of bullshit, stops it being bullshit.

Last post on it, just remember it is not so black and white with nords and SoA. Theres much more greys involved. And yes, that was an awful pun.

They broke their Promise,
They clearly promised us that they would not be hostile to us in any way or sign in ANY strat battle against us and they did 5 days later, thats a break of trust, and when your allied with the enemy nothing is tansparent can't look through fingers with that, but we still let them get safe out of our territory trust me we coulda stopped every single one of them if we wanted to, its not like they were invissible on the map when they migrated.
And it was not a neutral battle it was still your castle even though you made a quick 24 hour swap just to force us to break 7 day nap agreement, which we had with the Templars not you, but thats another pathetic story that will have to wait i guess.

So i guess this will be the end of it, morale ground still Sky High !
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Casimir on October 29, 2012, 11:51:49 pm
no-one has moral high ground in strategus, so don't pretend you do.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Crob28 on October 30, 2012, 12:13:34 am
They broke their Promise,
They clearly promised us that they would not .... sign in ANY strat battle against us


Fairly sure that's not the case...

Anyways, forbidding people from taking part in strat battles/threatening consequences if they do is a bit of a dick move and goes against the basic idea that strat is a GAME where people can ENJOY large scale battles.

Say what you will about the castle switch, the night time crap, etc etc, the three SoA who fought in that battle had NOTHING to do with that and were only trying to have fun, on a battle game, by fighting in a battle.  Trying to control people and who they can and can't fight for to such an extent is utterly ridiculous and most sensible people on these forums would agree to that.

Furthermore, anyone, (regardless of which clan or side of these alliances they are on) who thinks that players playing on one side in a battle means a horrible insult, an act of war, or in anyway takes it personally, needs to chill the fuck out and remember that there are some players here who just want to be a part of big fun battles.

TLDR : Anyone who tries to control the side people sign for/gets pissy about it, is a moron.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 30, 2012, 12:23:23 am
They can do whatever they want, but if they are on our ground they play on our terms, btw we never told them they couldnt apply They told us that they wouldnt and did it anyways dont you see the difference? ^^
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Crob28 on October 30, 2012, 12:39:00 am
They can do whatever they want, but if they are on our ground they play on our terms, btw we never told them they couldnt apply They told us that they wouldnt and did it anyways dont you see the difference? ^^

Speaking as a member of SoA, who btw the Nords have spoke about with a lot needless disrespect since this strat began, as I said, I'm fairly sure thats not the case, and in any event, if such a thing was said it certainly wasn't said with a sudden war erupting over Ismirala castle in mind.  For as long as we were up north talking to you it was with peace in mind, hence giving the fiefs and moving on, etc.

Obviously, the war starting changed the situation dramatically, but gave the potential for good fights, you would have thought that a reasonable clan would have been less pissed about THREE goddamn players in one fight after they'd just been given a bunch of fiefs for free.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 30, 2012, 12:45:48 am
Well tbh i Quoted Exacly what Micah and Shanks told me, i have nothing against you personally, but strat is srs bsns! Yes it was not fair, ill give you that but it was definetely justified, dont say one thing and do the other.

Ontop of that yes war started and you, by applying against us you clearly choose side, and you must understand we cant have enemies in our land, we still gave you free passage to show some heart, and then Shanks buttfucked us, well mostly me since i was the one vouching for him^^
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Crob28 on October 30, 2012, 12:52:03 am
but strat is srs bsns!

Ontop of that yes war started and you, by applyeng against us you clearly choose side^^

Yea strat is serious business lol, only problem is it would be a hell of a lot better if it wasn't so serious  :rolleyes:

I don't think it was really a case of choosing a side either, I think we were merely asked to apply to the merc side by someone, and we weren't asked by your side, and then the "yea why not, sounds fun" line of thinking set it.

Hell we had a recent battle where there were Fallens both on our side and the enemy side in the roster, kudos to Fallens, I genuinely approve of that system of play for who you want they have going on.
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 30, 2012, 12:56:57 am
Weak, fight for the enemy and be excommunicated.

You showed lack of dicipline, it coulda been fixed, but you never came. I wish you did though Shanks  :cry:
but because i loved you once i shall grant you a clean, quick death  :P
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: Crob28 on October 30, 2012, 01:00:40 am
Weak, fight for the enemy and be excommunicated.

Considering I'm playing a lot of MTW2 lately, that made me lol  :D  I'll just assassinate the pope and it's all good again :P
Title: Re: Great thanks to SoA and Mercs!
Post by: FeddyDK on October 30, 2012, 01:04:11 am
Do it for the sake of your people  :D