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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Mr_Oujamaflip on September 07, 2012, 08:27:58 pm
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Hi.
If I'm right in saying that spears and 2hs have instastab, that shit is rediculous and needs changing to something not instant.
Discuss.
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You are not right.
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You are not right.
that about sums it up
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Hi.
If I'm right in saying that spears and 2hs have instastab, that shit is rediculous and needs changing to something not instant.
Discuss.
Your eyes are playing tricks on you sir
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Getting hit with pikes before the animation starts is pretty common.
Hell I'm even doing it with my katana, although that doesn't really hurt anyone.
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Getting hit with pikes before the animation starts is pretty common.
This is called "lag".
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This is called "lag".
and bad animations
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I love blatant denial of broken stuff.
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I know right.
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If you're wearing light armor/cloth 2hs can instafacehugstab you, same with poles.
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this does exist, I'v witnessed this
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Havent witnessed it much in 2h swords.
But there is something seriusly unusual about polearm stab, that ive never really figured out.
Also, I dont agree with the instafacehugstab with 2h. I try that alot and it always gets absorbed, which is normally the most common thing that gets me killed. I dunno, mybe I just suck. :D
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It's not instant, but the part of the animation that the hit does full damage in is ridiculous. 2h and polearms are most noticeable, but even with my 1h I can sneak in "instahits" with a thrust.
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It is there, you can get INSTAstabbed, if you are wearing light or no armor and the enemy starts his stab with the weapon "in" you. As in, it is literally instant, hitting you the moment he starts his attack. Even without that, stabs generally can hit earlier in the animation (except for hiltslashes)
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Ashwood Pike is the master of this BS,
mostly see it on Poles since 2H stab glances 90% if youre to close too your enemy.
SHurely needs some tweakin, though.
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As much of a problem as the insta-swings/hiltslashes. Fix both or touch neither.
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It seems as though active hitboxes on stabs are globally much earlier now ever since the turn nerf. It kind of makes sense that way with the change, but you just have to strafe around and make sure to expect or not get hit by that initial hitbox.
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Instaswings have mostly disappeared in my experience. Insta-stabs got in the game after the turnrate nerf and the stab changes. Every weapon can do it. Ye old 2h leftswing/stab combo is stronger than ever. Did some crazy 1h insta-stabs aswell, but it would glance sometimes when doing exactly the same. Very inconsistent. Polearm has always had fast almost insta-stabs but its worse now.
Revert the stab changes and tweak the turnrate nerf so it only affects mauls and 200+ length spears, thank you. Or make the turn limitation less restrictive. This is even worse and glitchier.
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It's not instant, but the part of the animation that the hit does full damage in is ridiculous. 2h and polearms are most noticeable, but even with my 1h I can sneak in "instahits" with a thrust.
I'm pretty sure the chamber anim for 1h is slower than it is for 2h/pole, 2h/pole can do it so fast it's insane.
Havent witnessed it much in 2h swords.
But there is something seriusly unusual about polearm stab, that ive never really figured out.
Also, I dont agree with the instafacehugstab with 2h. I try that alot and it always gets absorbed, which is normally the most common thing that gets me killed. I dunno, mybe I just suck. :D
It only works on light armored enemies and if you got some decent ps but once you do that it's insanely easy to insta stab anyone with a greatsword.
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I've noticed this happening with polearms as of late. Primarily two-directional poles ~91 speed and up. I'll block an overhead and then get stabbed before I can even think about doing anything else. The usual offenders are bots with light lances or players with less than twenty ping.
Also got insta-stabbed by a longsword the other night. I saw him holding the attack but thought I would have time to react to the release so I didn't hold a block. Nope. Stabbed the instant the animation started. It's very wonky with two-handers though. I've tried to replicate the insta-stab with my HBS but it frequently bounces, even off "clothes". Might need more than six power strike, I don't know.
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I had one the other day where I got hit 3 times by a boar spear before I could come out of the hit anim for the first one.
Was pretty epic actually.
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I had one the other day where I got hit 3 times by a boar spear before I could come out of the hit anim for the first one.
Was pretty epic actually.
Lolstun
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I'm pretty sure that with a 90+ speed stabbing polearm with sufficient wpf, its impossible to get stabbed and then chamber the next stab if they spam it. Your character can't even chamber his weapon within the time the next one hits.
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I've seen the poleaxe Byrdi or NuberT use have an OP insta stab. It's almost as fast as a 1 hander, considering their "normal" speed is much less.
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Your eyes are playing tricks on you sir
This :mrgreen:
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every lass have instant stab, 1h too
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I've seen the poleaxe Byrdi or NuberT use have an OP insta stab. It's almost as fast as a 1 hander, considering their "normal" speed is much less.
Eh are you sure you ain't talking about stun? Polearm stab is fast and when I am positioned good to an enemy after I hit him I can get a free stab. But that depends a lot on the opponents skill/ping/idk. Won't usually work on people who know how I fight, like GTX, who will downblock after he got hit. Just downblock and see if you get "instastabed".
Also when fighting close to each other the stab of a poleaxe for example will ofc connect instantly after beeing released, as the tip is already touching your body. But same goes for swings. Personally I liked combat more, when these early attacks were more likely to bounce off, but thats like 18 months ago :)
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this is killing melee gameplay for me
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same, I can't really find fun in instant stabs
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Fix the awlpike atleast, that weapon is 200% broken, when it hits me theres half a centimeter between the point and my character. RL cm's
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Wow, fighting 2 direction poles is now even more horrible than before since they don't even need to lolstab wiggle in order to inflict maximum damage. Just thrust with your 2 meters long weapon at facehug range and it's fine.
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Instastab been there since forever. Still blockable though.
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Fix the awlpike atleast, that weapon is 200% broken, when it hits me theres half a centimeter between the point and my character. RL cm's
I feel like I need to stand right next to someone for it to not glance off. Its actually a very short range weapon if you want to use it reliably
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I feel like I need to stand right next to someone for it to not glance off. Its actually a very short range weapon if you want to use it reliably
i do admit that when i use 45+ body armor you need to be close but tbh i cant always play with that heavy armor, on my mail hauberk it néver glances and when it does hitn it takes a shitload HP away.
Awlpikes make me rage so hard :lol:
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Awlpikes are nothing nowadays. Just block down.
Lawlpikes, which were more of a term used when they had polestagger, now that was broken! Mostly 2-hit enemies and you had a 50 % chance of getting polestagger on a hit which meant a free hit afterwards. Ridiculous. :lol:
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Fix the awlpike atleast, that weapon is 200% broken, when it hits me theres half a centimeter between the point and my character. RL cm's
yeah you would know how it is to have RL half a centimeter between "the point" and your character when you at last hit it, EH?
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Think of it like running at a person with a spear. If you are not careful you might run into the spear tip. Even if you are in his face, there's a chance you might trip and stab yourself.
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Think of it like running at a person with a spear. If you are not careful you might run into the spear tip. Even if you are in his face, there's a chance you might trip and stab yourself.
I like to think of us as well trained warriors, not the bumbling buffoons we really are.
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yeah you would know how it is to have RL half a centimeter between "the point" and your character when you at last hit it, EH?
saw it this sunday on the training server. :lol: