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Offline Gurnisson

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2012, 02:45:40 pm »
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As much of a problem as the insta-swings/hiltslashes. Fix both or touch neither.
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Re: Instastab
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2012, 04:12:19 pm »
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It seems as though active hitboxes on stabs are globally much earlier now ever since the turn nerf. It kind of makes sense that way with the change, but you just have to strafe around and make sure to expect or not get hit by that initial hitbox.

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2012, 04:14:46 pm »
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Instaswings have mostly disappeared in my experience. Insta-stabs got in the game after the turnrate nerf and the stab changes. Every weapon can do it. Ye old 2h leftswing/stab combo is stronger than ever. Did some crazy 1h insta-stabs aswell, but it would glance sometimes when doing exactly the same. Very inconsistent. Polearm has always had fast almost insta-stabs but its worse now.

Revert the stab changes and tweak the turnrate nerf so it only affects mauls and 200+ length spears, thank you. Or make the turn limitation less restrictive. This is even worse and glitchier.

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2012, 04:16:52 pm »
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It's not instant, but the part of the animation that the hit does full damage in is ridiculous. 2h and polearms are most noticeable, but even with my 1h I can sneak in "instahits" with a thrust.
I'm pretty sure the chamber anim for 1h is slower than it is for 2h/pole, 2h/pole can do it so fast it's insane.
Havent witnessed it much in 2h swords.
But there is something seriusly unusual about polearm stab, that ive never really figured out.

Also, I dont agree with the instafacehugstab with 2h. I try that alot and it always gets absorbed, which is normally the most common thing that gets me killed. I dunno, mybe I just suck. :D
It only works on light armored enemies and if you got some decent ps but once you do that it's insanely easy to insta stab anyone with a greatsword.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2012, 05:12:07 pm »
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I've noticed this happening with polearms as of late.  Primarily two-directional poles ~91 speed and up.  I'll block an overhead and then get stabbed before I can even think about doing anything else.  The usual offenders are bots with light lances or players with less than twenty ping.

Also got insta-stabbed by a longsword the other night.  I saw him holding the attack but thought I would have time to react to the release so I didn't hold a block.  Nope.  Stabbed the instant the animation started.  It's very wonky with two-handers though.  I've tried to replicate the insta-stab with my HBS but it frequently bounces, even off "clothes".  Might need more than six power strike, I don't know.
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Re: Instastab
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2012, 07:55:38 pm »
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I had one the other day where I got hit 3 times by a boar spear before I could come out of the hit anim for the first one.

Was pretty epic actually.

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2012, 02:52:51 am »
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I had one the other day where I got hit 3 times by a boar spear before I could come out of the hit anim for the first one.

Was pretty epic actually.
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Re: Instastab
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2012, 12:06:41 pm »
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I'm pretty sure that with a 90+ speed stabbing polearm with sufficient wpf, its impossible to get stabbed and then chamber the next stab if they spam it. Your character can't even chamber his weapon within the time the next one hits.

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2012, 12:11:21 pm »
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I've seen the poleaxe Byrdi or NuberT use have an OP insta stab. It's almost as fast as a 1 hander, considering their "normal" speed is much less.
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Re: Instastab
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2012, 03:20:03 pm »
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Your eyes are playing tricks on you sir

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2012, 03:41:59 pm »
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every lass have instant stab, 1h too
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Re: Instastab
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2012, 05:03:22 pm »
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I've seen the poleaxe Byrdi or NuberT use have an OP insta stab. It's almost as fast as a 1 hander, considering their "normal" speed is much less.
Eh are you sure you ain't talking about stun? Polearm stab is fast and when I am positioned good to an enemy after I hit him I can get a free stab. But that depends a lot on the opponents skill/ping/idk. Won't usually work on people who know how I fight, like GTX, who will downblock after he got hit. Just downblock and see if you get "instastabed".

Also when fighting close to each other the stab of a poleaxe for example will ofc connect instantly after beeing released, as the tip is already touching your body. But same goes for swings. Personally I liked combat more, when these early attacks were more likely to bounce off, but thats like 18 months ago :)

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2012, 05:46:50 pm »
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this is killing melee gameplay for me

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Re: Instastab
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2012, 11:31:25 pm »
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same, I can't really find fun in  instant stabs
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Re: Instastab
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2012, 01:45:14 pm »
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Fix the awlpike atleast, that weapon is 200% broken, when it hits me theres half a centimeter between the point and my character. RL cm's
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