Also, with the amount of damage that arrows do (see none) shooting into melee is a great way to stun the enemy and help your teams get kills.
Not shooting into melee will often make archers useless until the melee is over, that's something people dont think about.The archers who shot me are usually shooting while at the current situation when they decide to release their arrow the enemy is directly behind me, but in this particular case both allies were on the other side of the fucking map, and I was pretty much stationary when fighting, same was the enemy, I play ranged, horsethrower, the thing is, I don't play like a complete retard, and I only ever teamshot when someone makes a direct turn into my view when I've released or when I miss by an inch, my throwing lance flies a mile away, and lands in some ally who I can't even sees leg, all you archer retards need to fucking stop shooting into melee thinking of your teammates as fucking AI and not real people and thinking that it's ok to just shoot 'cuss "worst thing that can happen is me hitting ally, as long as I don't take damage I don't care", to the guy bitching about arrow damage arrows deal decent damage, you're a retard, don't shoot into melee 'cuss once you miss which you noskills ALWAYS fucking do then you stun your ally, I don't mind people shooting into melee when they do it from a safe distance and are good enough players to realize when to shot and when not to, but most of you shits don't realize that.
The battle is not just about you.
What you need to do is learn to play with the other classes in your team, dont dance around if you have archer support, try to present the enemy's back to the archer while poking him from the other side, outflanking the enemy, and lastly dont let the enemy make an arrow shield out of you, even if you must abandon your attack. Many battles have been lost by self serving duel hungry meleers who simply refuse to teamplay with their archers. You can't imagine how annoying it is to have to wait until an ally dueler gets killed when the enemy would be easely owned with a little teamplay.
No need to fuck up Bows stats besides 1 thing. Just make it CUT AGAIN! Or atleast keep pierce only for LongBow.Archery doesn't need a nerf, retards just need to be banned from using it, once all you fucking noskill motherfucker bitches stop teamshooting me I can eventually cool down and go back to supporting a buff for archery.
So it's ok for xbower ?! :mrgreen:No, when I say my old friendchers, I include xbows, when I say archers, I include throwers but exclude xbows.
Zlisch, most of the battle is melee, so archers have to shoot into melee. And a lot can happen the time it takes the arrow to reach the target, it's not a flawless mechanic. That's why I say, bad aim a side, you must learn how to play with ranged. Otherwise the duel server is still there.Adamar you fucking cunt, didnt' I just tell you I was fucking standing still? Can you not read or what? You expect me to fucking move out the way 'cuss mr ally on the other side of the map decides that he can shoot through my back? Fuck you, and I'm a fucking horsethrower, you know why I don't really ever TH? It's 'cuss I got brains enough to shoot from a decent angle and range, not from the other fucking side of the map, you must learn to read my post, that archers shouldn't shoot when there is no chance in hell it won't teamwound unless the ally jumps three meters to the left, and then you must get a shitposter title for posting in my thread with your bullshit.
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Cicero mad 'cuss in his heavy armor he can tank more teamshots from archers and it might give the noskill an opportunity to win a fight before he dies due to arrow stun on both sides and him not being able to block worth a fuck anyways.You are stupid , and this not an insult ; even when i draw an -_- to an ass could be fuckin genius if we gonna compare with you.
You are stupid , and this not an insult
You are stupid , and this not an insult ; even when i draw an -_- to an ass could be fuckin genius if we gonna compare with you.Lol at random Turk who can't speak proper English calling someone else stupid...
Literally stupid.
Calling you stupid is not an insult ; its a fact."Calling you stupid is a fact.", wow, nice English...
You are just like one of random turkFail, inb4 he tells me to go in Turkish penis.
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I see a target, I take the shot.And when the archer is standing five miles away outside your view/behind you and you first notice he's there when he shots you in the back?
The best melee players are those who learn to use their team mates as an advantage. You have a friendly archer? move sideways or backpedal so the archer takes a clean shot and you take profit of the stun.
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The best melee players are those who learn to use their team mates as an advantage. You have a friendly archer? move sideways or backpedal so the archer takes a clean shot and you take profit of the stun.
And when the archer is standing five miles away outside your view/behind you and you first notice he's there when he shots you in the back?
To all the dicks who can't aim, can't think, and still think you should try and help your teammates, fuck off, please drop your bow/xbow and find some other class to play as.Hm... Cavalry? :rolleyes:
So it's ok for xbower ?! :mrgreen:
I shoot into melee as much as i want to. It's like telling melee's to only go in one at a time.Which is pretty much what I've been fucking saying, retard.
What you should say however is for friendly archers to only take SAFE shots. No risky shots where you might hit whoever.
Now really a cav player complains about teamhits and spamz M? Be carefull you dont get too many Ms for teambumps while trying to "help" teammates.I'm a ranged player.
Zlisch is right with a thing. As Archer you simply do not shoot into a melee fight IF the fight takes place on the other side of the map. You cannot hit that far away unless you are named DaveUKR or Sir_Agor. This is not native!Miwiw, just one issue with that post, while the archer is close to the fight, he should indeed shoot into melee, when he is shooting from a correct angle and not directly at his allies/enemies back which will have the likeliest chance to teamhit, and in battle if I know a ranged player is there and I'd actual trust the particular player with not shooting me to pieces I'll rotate to an angle so he can shoot at the guy I'm fighting, if a cav is coming from the side I'll S key and jump when the cav hits my enemy, when an archer decides to shoot me from miles away 'cuss he thinks he got the slightest fucking chance of hitting my enemy then I'll support perma banning him from using a bow/xbow/throwing weapon.
While the Archer is close to the fight, he should indeed shoot into melee. What else should he do? People would complain if the Archer would just pass by and ignore the fight.
The infantry has to adapt to it and let teamplay happen. Use your "s"key, you're no damn hero. Don't jump all the time, don't try to kill the enemy alone. It is a battle server, therefore being a hero is the biggest bullshit ever. Kills are useless as well, there is no reward for those.
But there is reward for successful teamplay, winning the round gives you a multiplier. A won "duel" on a battle server not.
That's the same with cavalry. Damnit, as lancer you dont charge into 2 infantries when they are fighting. Especially not with a couched lance. That's usually death for the friendly infantry... happens so often.
I am dehorsed,
ranged cav then, and you surely NEVER bumpMost of the time when I accidently bump people I'll stop my horse on them to block the enemies attack, If an archer shot me and then as an apology rushed into the battle and blocked the enemies sword with his body while letting me hit I guess I'd be ok with him shooting me as well, and unlike all you idiots with bows I don't fucking charge straight at my teammates back throwing a throwing lance at the teammates head and then blame him for not moving...
I love archers who shoot in melee when I'm (2H) fighting an enemy using huscarl shield...
Let the cannonfodder die first - enjoy a clean shot.
As much as I agree on excessively teamhitting scrub archers should be banned from using bows, to the same amount I have to rage about stupid melee nonbrainers meatshielding the enemy all the time.
What is this shit?Don't call anybody idiot bro.
Are you playing the same mod as the rest of us?
idiot.
To the OP, arrows take so long to fly across the map that:Bitch please, I've played as an archer several times before, your arrows fly fast as fuck compared to my throwing lances so don't fucking complain about them.
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With my 5PS EVERYTHING UNLOOMED horse archer alt I deal decent damage, and I headshot people in bucket helmets (which is absolutely ridiculous), so...yeh, cool story bro.
With Bodkins amirite? Just give bows cut dmg alrdy..jeez lol.
What's the point going XBow when you got a weapon that gets most rape by rain and slow reloads and really mediocre dmg that Bows can do just as well or hell even better as they won't have to reload and get bonus from PD.
Just make em cut already T_T
Yep ofc bodkins...and gay horn bow, and on sumpter horse, with 4 HA skill...
It looks to me that everybody has different view of what arrow damage does.
All I knows is this: Even +3 tatars (i'm guessing they are +3) and probably +3 Rus(gay)bow, some my old friend called camels_something_ROBINHOOD (LOL LARPer) was able to do ridiculous damage to my tincan STF (11 IF, 36 STR, 70 body armor)...yet all these ranged my old friends and ranged sympathisers QQ about low damage...
Yep ofc bodkins...and gay horn bow, and on sumpter horse, with 4 HA skill...
and on sumpter horse
sumpter horse
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What is this shit?
Are you playing the same mod as the rest of us?
idiot.
oh really. I thought my masterwork bow and arrows were the best way to deal damage? I guess my headshot on that berserker guy that did 1/6 of his hp bar is fair and balanced.Obvious bullshit is obvious, you'd at least take 50% of his health even if what you was using was a "bow" and "arrow" and not "Rus bow" and "Bodkins".
Obvious bullshit is obvious, you'd at least take 50% of his health even if what you was using was a "bow" and "arrow" and not "Rus bow" and "Bodkins".
oh really. I thought my masterwork bow and arrows were the best way to deal damage? I guess my headshot on that berserker guy that did 1/6 of his hp bar is fair and balanced.
Yes, they deal great damage to terri-bad agi builds and people walking around in blue gambeseons, otherwise it takes like 6 shots to kill unless you get a couple headshots, (lol at people who don't wear any headgear or use headgear with 8 armor, they should die with one headshot)
Polka, just to make sure the guy is wrong wanna go EU_3 and test my archer build? I won't use bodkins or a horn bow and my headshots will probably still hurt the living shit out of you.
You must be doing something wrong in the same way that someone using practice dagger with a "perfect build" is doing something wrong.As far as I know the dmg formula of ranged is different on EU_3. Dmg is smaller than on the other servers
Also, how do you know you only did 1/6 damage? i've never posted shit on these forums, and test most of my theories with friends on the duel server. Just yesterday me and Butan found out that throwing cut dmg axes at my tincan alts body is useless, about 4-6% per axe, yet the same tincan STF on eu4 is taking 50% to one cut damage arrow....maybe someone tampered with eu_3's damage trololololololol gtfo.
Do you have any other words than english , speak , bad ?
You are just like one of random turk which is trying to speak english at Antalya
Room ? Sex ? Yes ?
Shooting into melee is like charging your horse into melee = fucking entertaining every time. It makes me smile, every time.