Isn't chairman meow already kind of the "community manager"?He cares alot about the community (i think). =)
fill dev's life with boring bureaucracy and useless hierarchy?i think you got that wrong :lol:
fuck yeah I'm in!
i always read your texts as i am not afraid of wise words.(click to show/hide)
fill dev's life with boring bureaucracy and useless hierarchy?
fuck yeah I'm in!
I think this will help you greatly.
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/8-steps-to-more-concise-writing/ (http://www.dailywritingtips.com/8-steps-to-more-concise-writing/)
Make Joker86 community manager(click to show/hide)
fill dev's life with boring bureaucracy and useless hierarchy?
fuck yeah I'm in!
If such a role would exist because of some kinda accident in the future, count me in.
Actually you were one of the persons I was thinking of :wink:
I never said I wanna do the job, and I definitely don't want to. But I still find it amusing how I made you somehow hate me so much, that whenever I post you never miss the occasion to write something negative about my person. Seems I hit a nerve? :?
Seriously, folks, if you are not able to read any text which is longer than three sentences, I would really recommend you to limit your participation onto the spam forum, because some matters can not be discussed with one liners. I don't fucking care if you didn't read or not.
Joker I don't hate you, I don't hate anyone in this mod really. I just like making fun of you, you can picture me as a dickhead or something, no probsYou appeared today in front of this court because you have been accused of being a dickhead who is not capable or willing to read more than 2 sentences of post made by the sueing party.
PS: i never read more than 2 sentences in your posts, sue me
Really, I just realized how much I wasted my time writing that post. :cry:
[...]The sad thing is actually that probably nobody expected anything else.
and still chadz seems to have misunderstood something and replied with a short, ironic post which I interprete as "No. I don't bother giving a reason. Fuck you.", while cmp just gave my OP a "-".
[...]
I thought this was what Meow was suppose to do yet I don't see him anywhere but IRC which isn't very helpful.
Meow probably got all the compassion and kindness drained out of him by the community. In his place I would've regularly started referring to people seeking my help as "retarded cunts" or "whiny 5 year old girls with pigtails". In fact, I already do that and I'm not even forced to deal with them.
On a more serious note, several gaming companies have gone away from CM's.
An example is EVE. Before none of the devs were allowed to talk to the gamers directly on the forum.
That policy was changed. Most of the CM department was fired and now devs communicate directly with the gamers.
This has in many great ways developed a tighter bond between the gamers and the devs. You just accept more shit, when you can talk to the guy who coded it himself and you foten realise they don't do bugs and bad stuff because they hate you.
TL;DR.
Sorry Joker, you may have good ideas, but that walls of text from you make me skip all your posts. I believe you could have written that in 5 sentences - everyone else can do it :mrgreen:
... and you foten realise they don't do bugs and bad stuff because they hate you.you naive little thing :mrgreen:
When we don't say something, it's not because we are too "lazy" to post on the forum. It's either because we don't know at this point, or we do know and don't want to communicate it yet.
And when I have some real info, I have to take the time to explain it to the community manager and make sure he does understand it so he doesn't misquote me.
And how would that be easier or faster than me posting it directly?
It's really just a guy in the middle that takes away community interaction.
When we don't say something, it's not because we are too "lazy" to post on the forum. It's either because we don't know at this point, or we do know and don't want to communicate it yet.
Either way, all you would get from a "community manager" is someone saying "I don't know" on any question you ask him. I can code a bot for that if you want.
And when I have some real info, I have to take the time to explain it to the community manager and make sure he does understand it so he doesn't misquote me.
And how would that be easier or faster than me posting it directly?
It's really just a guy in the middle that takes away community interaction.
Why do you think the "big gamestudios" have someone like that? Because they don't give a shit about the community themselves. I do.
Edit: and if you think the forum is the wrong medium for those things: then I think this ought to be changed, because messages on IRC channels don't last, and if some info is given 99,9% of the playerbase won't get to know it, as it will disappear. You need a medium which is more "sustainable", like a forum. That way you can also refer to older statements. You can't always rely on community members picking up the information in IRC and posting it somewhere in the forum.
I fear this is a basic problem. You created the "cRPG: status and plans" topic in the announcement forum, and when I saw it I was really tickled, but when I read it I was rather disappointed. Yes, it actually contained the stuff promised in the headline, but I was also hoping for some general, more basic plans and philosophies. Like the questions I mentioned above: what should be more important for success? Skill or teamplay? How far do you want to go into the realism direction? How close will you stick to unrealistic but skill demanding gameplay? What is the way you balance items? Do you have a certain background in mind, which cultures/time periods are okay, which are not? Why? Do you try to force the players to behave like in a real battle (e.g. shoulder to shoulder with your teammates?) or are battles only a basic background for indipendant fights? Are you planning on adding "secondary" skills which help in battles, like in SP where charisma or intelligence also play a (minor) role? What is the targeted relation of the influence of skill and character stats on your success? 50-50? 40-60? 90-10?
If those questions could be clarified, a lot of arguments in this forum could be prevented, because everyone tries to interprete your intentions his way, and that's why his opinion is the right one. If everybody knew what the developers would want to achieve, there would be not much room left for discussions.
If you don't really know it yet: then discuss it! Put things clear, I think your work can only benefit from it.
Sign me up for community manager. I will report my needs, community!here, fixed it for you =D
Thanks a lot!
I got a similar site for you:
http://higherpayingskills.com/2011/12/improve-concentration-attention-span/ (http://higherpayingskills.com/2011/12/improve-concentration-attention-span/)
Seriously, folks, if you are not able to read any text which is longer than three sentences, I would really recommend you to limit your participation onto the spam forum, because some matters can not be discussed with one liners. I don't fucking care if you didn't read or not.
giggle worthy thread.
http://mwomercs.com/media/video/dPoqjslGcO0
skip to the 1 minute mark for the part that makes me laugh every time I think of it...
I fear this is a basic problem.
For the record, we read (as a collective dev/admin/beta tester being) every thread in this forum. Maybe except spam. And faction halls. But definately anything worth reading. If you post a suggestion in the forum, we will read it. If it's good, someone will tell me about that good idea. Happens every day, quite often actually. Not all suggestions are really good, but the good ones stick in our head and get the brainflag "pending". We don't reply at this point because people immediately get their hopes up when we do. And we can't guarantee that we can find the time to implement it. And then people will pester us about 20 different things where we once posted "looks interesting, we'll try and bring it into the game".
That's why we usually inform when something is close to getting finished, not when we think about something.
I think, at least the suggestions which are declined deserve an answer and a short explanation. If someone makes the effort to write a suggestion, then he deserves an answer, I think.
For the record, we read (as a collective dev/admin/beta tester being) every thread in this forum. Maybe except spam. And faction halls. But definately anything worth reading. If you post a suggestion in the forum, we will read it. If it's good, someone will tell me about that good idea. Happens every day, quite often actually. Not all suggestions are really good, but the good ones stick in our head and get the brainflag "pending". We don't reply at this point because people immediately get their hopes up when we do. And we can't guarantee that we can find the time to implement it. And then people will pester us about 20 different things where we once posted "looks interesting, we'll try and bring it into the game".
That's why we usually inform when something is close to getting finished, not when we think about something.