How many bugs are there?
Strange formulation for how the Shogunate works - there's a realm divide system that increases hostilities against you the more land you take and battles you win. But this is issued by the current Shogunate. It's possible to capture Kyoto before they can call a realm divide, but the realm divide instantly happens afterwards, even though you're the new Shogun. Not a bug, but retarded anyway.If you grow too big so will the Shogunate make an alliance against you. Even though most clans aren't that loyal to the Shogunate so can't you deny the fact that you're proberly the biggest clan when this happends and the other clans sees this as a chance to crush you.
How many bugs are there?As Guard Bane said. There is a few. Not that major. The AI as said sucks quite much at Siege battles. on normal field battles so are they quite good compared to the older games(Total War games that is)
I haven't purchased this yet. Are the multiplayer and co-op any good?The Campaign coop is for 2 players. I believe you are forced to be allies? Haven't touched it yet. I've heard it is quite good but overall. It is like Singerplayer campaign just with a friend. I've heard that siegeing Kyoto with two big armies, etcetera is great fun.
Vassals, what are they good for? I gain more troops & gold by just occupying the providence myself.. And for some reason my allies and vassals always wage war on each-other QQVassals can be quite a good ally to have. To protect one of your flanks or so from the enemy. But overall so is it better to just conquer the region.
The oda faction's start is way to harsh, especially on the harder difficulty levels. Only managed four rounds as them myself.
Feel the use of ships could have been better. In my previous shogun 2 games i only needed a few trade-ships & a small number of attack-ships to gain & guard the trade-posts. No point in going after the black-ship (too much risk vs reward) and raiding trade-lines are near useless (in my experience).
All in all it is a decent game, and i have had great fun playing it.
steam won't verify my e-mail so i haven't bought it just yet, i'm currently saving up for a midi keyboard at 300 pounds aswell so it'll have to wait...Steam usually overprice newly released games. You can proberly find it cheaper in a local store or a webshop from your country. Even Amazon is cheaper.
The realm divide is ridiculous, thankfully there are mods that either remove it or diminish the effect it has.
Although it mostly happens when i have already efficiently won the game.
The oda faction's start is way to harsh, especially on the harder difficulty levels. Only managed four rounds as them myself.
yeah, i'll probably buy it at asda, usually cheap for games anyway, it's only 29.99 on steam Cymro, has been since before it was released...
hmm, pretty strange since we're both from the uk aswell, how is everyone enjoying the game so far then...
I dont really enjoy it. There is near to no unit variety. That makes the game so much less interesting than the others. Faction choice was always based on their unit roster, now I clicked the one with a pretty banner. One campaign and I'm done with it, glad I borrowed it from a friend
Darth mod makes everything better?I don't find it that intresting. Most things it does aren't that great. And the removal of the Horo was a bad idea.
Ill have to check out that DoTS.
The Third Age mod for M2TW was another extremely good mod
Am I alone having the impression that Shogun 2 is (with max quality) less technically beautifull than Empire and Napoleon ? Of course, there are more units on the ground and I don't really care about graphics, as long as it's playable, but it's intriguing.The game doesn't have AA yet. Unless it came with the last patch? Which I doubt. Did not really check. Shogun 2 looks great.
I started a Shimazu campaign and found it easy, as others said the AI seems to struggle with many armies and does not protect it's borders. You just have to defeat stacks one at a time. But this is on medium difficulty so I can't really say about the real game. All in all, the details make this game cool. Clans, agents and the province building mechanics are really well done.
Battles were easy since the AI seems to favor Ashigeru, and those peasants tend to flee like chicken.
I dont really enjoy it. There is near to no unit variety. That makes the game so much less interesting than the others. Faction choice was always based on their unit roster, now I clicked the one with a pretty banner. One campaign and I'm done with it, glad I borrowed it from a friend
Played Shogun 2 for a few sessions over a couple of days and haven't played it since, have far more fun playing mods for M2TW still. Not enough variety for me where units and factions are concerned, I also couldn't care less about the new diplomacy and AI when I find the battles boring as hell after playing a little while. Better AI or mechanics to make the game harder don't mean shit to me when the battles begin to bore me.
download some mod, maybe darthmod and universal AI, than go play on legendary.. if you will find it easy, than you can complain :]The game is kinda hard enough when playing on Legendary. I just doubt anyone here really have played it.
I started recently as Shimazu and conquered my starting island and the other to the east. Does anyone know if the suspicion of the Shogun will decrease over time?It won't. I believe it is around 20-25 regions when it happends.
Makes me stay with M2TW and its great selection of mods. I tried Shogun 2 and was not impressed in comparison. It is really sad to me that a big developer company cannot capture or supercede the fun of gameplay, depth and versatility of a predecessor in now !! 3 !! subsequent new game releases!Vanilla Shogun 2 is far better than Vanilla M2TW.
Epic fail award to a once great series :(
I think ill upgrade my graphics card from 4800 to 5780 before I buy shogun :DThe CPU is the most important part for TW games.
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Makes me stay with M2TW and its great selection of mods. I tried Shogun 2 and was not impressed in comparison. It is really sad to me that a big developer company cannot capture or supercede the fun of gameplay, depth and versatility of a predecessor in now !! 3 !! subsequent new game releases!
Epic fail award to a once great series
Vanilla Shogun 2 is far better than Vanilla M2TW.
Plus. You can't really compare a modded old game with a newly released one. Who says Shogun 2 won't have glorious mods later on?
Vanilla Shogun 2 is far better than Vanilla M2TW.
Plus. You can't really compare a modded old game with a newly released one. Who says Shogun 2 won't have glorious mods later on?
Sorry mate, I disagree. Liked the vanilla M2TW much better than Shogun 2 or any of its other two in-betweens. Just the sheer variety of cultures, units and historical non-comic balloon-on-the-back-of-horsemen, non eye-vision-damaging-color combination units made it so much more fun for me :!:
Agreed, stopped playing Shogun 2 after 1 campaign and didnt enjoy it, its only about 2 months ago that I played a MTW2 campaign which was much more fun.
Vanilla Shogun 2 is far better than Vanilla M2TW.
Plus. You can't really compare a modded old game with a newly released one. Who says Shogun 2 won't have glorious mods later on?
Sorry mate, I disagree. Liked the vanilla M2TW much better than Shogun 2 or any of its other two in-betweens. Just the sheer variety of cultures, units and historical non-comic balloon-on-the-back-of-horsemen, non eye-vision-damaging-color combination units made it so much more fun for me :!:
Erika my cpu is a - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz, 2793 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)\Yeah it's good enough.
is that good?
(Beat campaign once with the shimazu as christians. Interesting way to expand: Get some high level Missionary's and then go and convert the populations and then foment revolts. Easiest way to hurt enemies and allies without being dragged into a war, though beware of enemy agents.)Yeah, Shimazu, Mouri and Chosokabe are the easier clans to win the game as christians, Seeing that Christianity doesn't arrive to the eastern parts of Japan untill later, and converting late-game when you have alot of regions is not really that good.
some claim that those horo's (baloons) are historic accurate as they were used by general bodyguards and messengers to stand out on the battlefield, and those colors might also be accurate but this opinion i give only from watching the kurosawa's movies (Ran for example as its his first color movie), one could assume they had costumes that looked as authentic as they could