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cRPG => Events & Tournaments => Topic started by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 17, 2012, 03:05:44 pm

Title: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 17, 2012, 03:05:44 pm
Byzantium Team is proud to bring to you :

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This summer, Byzantium clan, with the help of NDitions servers are glad to present to you the first official cRPG NATIONS CUP!
Players from all over the world will join forces to battle along side their countrymen and hopefully be the winning nation.

In the upcomming days/weeks, players will be given the opportunity to apply for their country, captains will be elected and a final roster set.



Stay tuned, this post is bound to be modified....very often
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Idzo on May 17, 2012, 03:10:27 pm
My idea was that every player plays for himself.
No teams. Just duels in knockout tourney.  :P
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 17, 2012, 03:12:12 pm
Hmm... How many players per team? 10?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Latrinenkobold on May 17, 2012, 03:12:28 pm
yeah that would be better because everyone would have a chance to participate and win then...
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: karasu on May 17, 2012, 03:13:07 pm
Good idea, but then again, it'll be like 4 nations tops. Rus, Ger, Pol, NA.

Have fun anyways.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Idzo on May 17, 2012, 03:13:54 pm
this still wouldn't determine who's the "best" player.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 17, 2012, 03:13:57 pm
More details coming soonish guys, we'll think everything through trust us. Can't give you too many specifics at this point. We'll be working on the structure, system, rules, prizes etc in the meantime.

@ Karasu, 4 nations tops ? You seriously underestimate the cRPG playerbase, shame on you.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lysander on May 17, 2012, 03:15:44 pm
Where I can sign in?? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 03:17:37 pm
this still wouldn't determine who's the "best" player.

This is not what this is about, this is like a football world cup, you represent your nation. We like that idea of nation teamplay.

Where I can sign in?? :mrgreen:


All in good times my dear.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on May 17, 2012, 03:17:46 pm
German Player reporting in!


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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 17, 2012, 03:20:59 pm
Can small countries work together with other small countries to form full teams?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 03:22:17 pm
Can small countries work together with other small countries to form full teams?

Will be thought of, some people already suggested Benelux, so we'll see.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Herkkutatti on May 17, 2012, 03:24:00 pm
Hmm... How many players per team? 10?
we don't have 10 Winnish players in this community
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Elmuri on May 17, 2012, 03:26:26 pm
Nice to see this happen 8-)
we don't have 10 Winnish players in this community
Hmm easily. Pantheons and Uljas + many others
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 17, 2012, 03:26:29 pm
we don't have 10 Winnish players in this community
You can always unite with your neighbours , like Russia for example. Kidding . =)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Olwen on May 17, 2012, 03:27:05 pm
Good idea, but then again, it'll be like 4 nations tops. Rus, Ger, Pol, NA.

Have fun anyways.

lolnoob, france wins
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Casimir on May 17, 2012, 03:31:02 pm
Im here to represent wales.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on May 17, 2012, 03:32:20 pm
Im here for Ireland or if a team cant be formed I can play for england.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 17, 2012, 03:39:56 pm
Im here for Ireland or if a team cant be formed I can play for england.
@ Casimir and Muffin - i can't tell you for sure atm, but there will probably be team UK =).
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 17, 2012, 03:42:38 pm
USA'S TEAM IS BEST TEAM IN USA
for all intents and purposes, Canada will be considered USA USA USA USA
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Vibe on May 17, 2012, 03:42:56 pm
Team Slovenia, total players - 2  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 17, 2012, 03:44:20 pm
USA'S TEAM IS BEST TEAM IN USA
for all intents and purposes, Canada will be considered USA USA USA USA
You NA guys are welcome to form both team Canada and team USA if you want to and if you are alright with playing on eu servers  :wink:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lysander on May 17, 2012, 03:54:38 pm
I'm representing Austria. I guess we are at least 10 players.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Thovex on May 17, 2012, 03:57:41 pm
Dutch team is obviously gonna win!

Take Jambi as archer though.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Rebelyell on May 17, 2012, 03:59:23 pm
I think then there will be no problems with team for Poland(if you need one give me a info)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 17, 2012, 04:00:26 pm
Dutch team is obviously gonna win!

Take Jambi as archer though.
Jambi is Dutch? Or am I misunderstanding this? Would explain a lot.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Thovex on May 17, 2012, 04:02:24 pm
Jambi is dutch. Yes.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Prpavi on May 17, 2012, 04:02:41 pm
good idea, i guess the Croatia wont have trouble getting a team together, Bandits could do it alone, plus Ironlake, George, Crojo...

bring it!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: [ptx] on May 17, 2012, 04:03:45 pm
Well, still can't even create a full team Baltics here :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fartface on May 17, 2012, 04:14:12 pm
Il join team Bene.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 17, 2012, 04:14:24 pm
we don't have 10 Winnish players in this community
10 Winnish players? Easy! Fallen alone has 10 Finns I guess.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Herkkutatti on May 17, 2012, 04:16:21 pm
10 Winnish players? Easy! Fallen alone has 10 Finns I guess.
Decent players  8-)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Dalhi on May 17, 2012, 04:22:30 pm
I think then there will be no problems with team for Poland(if you need one give me a info)

I'm pretty sure that might interests Blackitt and CO. as Native NC ended few days ago.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 17, 2012, 04:32:51 pm
I am Panos.

I don`t need teammates,I can own you all by myself.


On a serious note now,since me  and Katsou are the only Greeks who play from EU,there is Arathian(he plays from Canada)

I`m asking from now to be allowed to play with Croatians,if they want me ofc.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 17, 2012, 04:33:52 pm
Decent players  8-)
Don't go there bro :twisted:. May for example. Really good archer. Lennu in melee or ranged, deadly. Rhekimos and I are cavalry, pretty decent I would say, nothing too superior but we get the job done. Spurdo mounted xbowmy old friend annoys everyone. Everkistus, once great polearmer, now xbow + shielder for bad ping times. So there is your decent players that might be available. Then we need 4 more. Xant, Herkkuderp, Massassin, Wiltsu etc xD. Finnish team, ready to roll :mrgreen:

I think May might be a bit inactive, Lennu and Everkistus as well. So there is 3 slots more. King Pave, Haze The Hobo from Pantheon are decent fighters. TM_Wolper from Finland? Get that dude into our team!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: dodnet on May 17, 2012, 04:38:53 pm
Too bad I'm from big old germany. I for sure suck too much to make it in the team  :?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 17, 2012, 04:40:11 pm
you will know all details in time, patience =)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Kalp on May 17, 2012, 04:43:45 pm
Hmm... How many teams per nation ?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Phyrex on May 17, 2012, 04:44:11 pm
Where's Bjord when you need him?!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Herkkutatti on May 17, 2012, 04:46:34 pm
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i would replace 2 fallens wiht robinhood and tuttiritari.
TM is winnish and best winnish he is
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: karasu on May 17, 2012, 04:47:36 pm
More details coming soonish guys, we'll think everything through trust us. Can't give you too many specifics at this point. We'll be working on the structure, system, rules, prizes etc in the meantime.

@ Karasu, 4 nations tops ? You seriously underestimate the cRPG playerbase, shame on you.

No need to be all worked up, kind Sir, my point was precisely Teeth point:

What about those players (like me) from nations without players?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Kansuke on May 17, 2012, 04:52:56 pm
lolnoob, france wins

POUR L'EMPEREUR !

Oh wait... wrong game
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Gurnisson on May 17, 2012, 04:53:38 pm
Odin, how come you don't mention TucKMuncK for your team? He might be the best finnish player in the mod. :)


Team Scandinavia would be awesome. 8-)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 17, 2012, 04:54:37 pm
No need to be all worked up, kind Sir, my point was precisely Teeth point:

What about those players (like me) from nations without players?
Are you saying Canada/Russia/Usa/Sweden etc should send their hockey players to Zimbabwe or  Australia so they can form their own hockey teams? =)

How about team Iberia (Spain,Portugal) - you can try that , pretty sure there will be enough players.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: peter_afca7 on May 17, 2012, 04:58:06 pm
to bad if archers are aloud in such tourney's
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Gnjus on May 17, 2012, 05:00:38 pm
lolnoob, france wins

http://saxondog.blogspot.com/2010/11/french-rout-fao-barry-and-dave.html
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: karasu on May 17, 2012, 05:22:35 pm
Are you saying Canada/Russia/Usa/Sweden etc should send their hockey players to Zimbabwe or  Australia so they can form their own hockey teams? =)

How about team Iberia (Spain,Portugal) - you can try that , pretty sure there will be enough players.

Never said anything like that, please stop assuming things at your own volition.  :wink:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 17, 2012, 05:25:38 pm
lolnoob, france wins
We will beat them 20.05 in native, & could do the same here  8-)

P.S. 16 players total like in native are fine, but 6 substitutions for hole tournament are not good due to people's unreliability.

How about 3 loom points for each member of the winning team as a price? :)
Permanent titles are good too.(like this http://www.c-rpg.net/?page=marketplaceauction&id=367 )
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fartface on May 17, 2012, 05:28:21 pm
French suck.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 17, 2012, 05:30:43 pm
to bad if archers are aloud in such tourney's
No!, allow archers cause we get Jambi.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fartface on May 17, 2012, 05:33:14 pm
If I can get to lvl 30 before this il have 39 str and full lordly armour , I dont give a fuck about there little arrowsss:)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: gazda on May 17, 2012, 05:38:32 pm
YUGOSLAVIA will win

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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Chester on May 17, 2012, 05:44:14 pm
It would be nice to create a fund of tournament - each team member will go amount, and the tournament winner-team will receive all the money - the reward for victory.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Byrdi on May 17, 2012, 05:45:15 pm
10 k that its a Scandinavian team that wins!

@Gurnisson: Team Scandinavia would indeed be awesome (and OP) :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 17, 2012, 05:46:29 pm
Odin, how come you don't mention TucKMuncK for your team? He might be the best finnish player in the mod. :)


Team Scandinavia would be awesome. 8-)

I didn't know he was Finnish too :D. Yeah indeed really skilled player, personal skill and teamplay.

Since this is going to be about teamwork we need people who can do that too. Herkkutatti is quite decent guy in melee, but I'm not too sure about his team playing skills. That would be hard one considering I know couple guys who can play as a unit really damn well.

Do you remember TheFinn?
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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 17, 2012, 05:51:52 pm
And what would team scandinavia have for roster? I'm pretty sure there's enough members for each and own scandinavian team.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on May 17, 2012, 05:52:20 pm
10 k that its a Scandinavian team that wins!

@Gurnisson: Team Scandinavia would indeed be awesome (and OP) :D

Too bad Scandinavians arent one nation
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 17, 2012, 05:53:30 pm
Too bad Scandinavians arent one nation

Neither are benelux and the balkans.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 05:54:42 pm
And what would team scandinavia have for roster? I'm pretty sure there's enough members for each and own scandinavian team.

This. There will only be grouped nations if we feel like their isn't enough players to fill the roster, but I think we can find enough Swedish players for example.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 17, 2012, 06:02:00 pm
Personally, this is a bad idea because it's under process in native atm.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Kalp on May 17, 2012, 06:04:52 pm
Permanent titles are good too.(like this http://www.c-rpg.net/?page=marketplaceauction&id=367 )
What is this ?  :o

And who is King of Calradia ?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Herkkutatti on May 17, 2012, 06:06:58 pm
Quote
Permanent titles are good too.(like this http://www.c-rpg.net/?page=marketplaceauction&id=367 )
I has the highest bid  8-)
STR_Herkkutatti, the stalwart defender of the innocent virgin
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Thovex on May 17, 2012, 06:08:26 pm
What if you own a fief with it combined?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Moncho on May 17, 2012, 06:10:15 pm
Lady STR_Herkkutatti, the virgin defender of the innocent virgin, owner of bla bla bla i suppose.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 17, 2012, 06:12:01 pm
Personally, this is a bad idea because it's under process in native atm.
It will ends 20.05 then we'll beat France. But still, summer is a bad time for a tourney(vacations etc.)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Herkkutatti on May 17, 2012, 06:15:48 pm
Summer is best time for tourneys cos i play 24/7
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 17, 2012, 06:24:01 pm
Summer best time for tourneys cos i play 24/7
Hate U! I'm going to Finland next week to farm mansikka.


Maybe we should exclude MWs & high level chars? Too make this NC more skill-dependent. (STF & 40-50k for equipment).
& there will be no point to restrict my old friendchers cause without looms they are not so deadly.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 06:27:32 pm
Personally, this is a bad idea because it's under process in native atm.

Dude, native players hate cRPG, and the opposite, what you say is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Elmuri on May 17, 2012, 06:27:59 pm
Don't go there bro :twisted:. May for example. Really good archer. Lennu in melee or ranged, deadly. Rhekimos and I are cavalry, pretty decent I would say, nothing too superior but we get the job done. Spurdo mounted xbowmy old friend annoys everyone. Everkistus, once great polearmer, now xbow + shielder for bad ping times. So there is your decent players that might be available. Then we need 4 more. Xant, Herkkuderp, Massassin, Wiltsu etc xD. Finnish team, ready to roll :mrgreen:

I think May might be a bit inactive, Lennu and Everkistus as well. So there is 3 slots more. King Pave, Haze The Hobo from Pantheon are decent fighters. TM_Wolper from Finland? Get that dude into our team!
If cav isnt allowed, I would suggest Munin and Wiltzu, Lerva(?) for shielders, me ( 8-)) Herkku, TuckMunck, Xant, Kastu for melee, and Spudro and Tommoo for ranged
Of course You, Lennu, Kerkko, Rhekimos, Pantheons etc are also good choices
E: I dont think the line-up will be a big problem cause not everyone is avaiable when the battles take place
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Herkkutatti on May 17, 2012, 06:30:20 pm
Hate U! I'm going to Finland next week to farm mansikka.


Maybe we should exclude MWs & high level chars? Too make this NC more skill-dependent. (STF & 40-50k for equipment).
& there will be no point to restrict my old friendchers cause without looms they are not so deadly.
nice :D Where in Finland ?
 Zakker is also winnish player good for winnish team
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: peter_afca7 on May 17, 2012, 06:35:48 pm
No!, allow archers cause we get Jambi.
true, only good Dutch archer XD
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 17, 2012, 06:46:54 pm
Good new guys

Me and Katsou are going to,or at least try to assemble team Hellas.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Paul on May 17, 2012, 06:50:10 pm
Good new guys

Me and Katsou are going to,or at least try to assemble team Hellas.

Sponsored by Germany.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 17, 2012, 06:59:18 pm
panos its wirtten crpg in the title. recruting native mercs for this isnt  what we want
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 17, 2012, 07:11:18 pm
If cav isnt allowed, I would suggest Munin and Wiltzu, Lerva(?) for shielders, me ( 8-)) Herkku, TuckMunck, Xant, Kastu for melee, and Spudro and Tommoo for ranged
Of course You, Lennu, Kerkko, Rhekimos, Pantheons etc are also good choices
E: I dont think the line-up will be a big problem cause not everyone is avaiable when the battles take place

Well the best thing about my character is that I can play decent melee with it too :D.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 08:57:41 pm
Yes, there are enough Scandinavian players for each Scandinavian team, but I think it's up to us to decide if we want a Pan-Scandinavian team. If Benelux is allowed to(as I'm positive Holland has enough players too), then we should be no exception to that courtesy.

No offence, but what you think of the skill-level of such a formation is irrelevant. You can't deny a country's entrance because you think all the odds favour them(if this was the reason for your opposition, Exxc). We understand each other easily, communication is no problem.


Anyway, I'll probably have my desktop back at the end of this month. My grades are fixed, so it's all good. I hope you have planned the tournament for summer break, I imagine most players are available then.

@Phyrex: I AM HERE, MY LOVE.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Thovex on May 17, 2012, 09:02:59 pm
Yes, there are enough Scandinavian players for each Scandinavian team

This:

We in the Netherlands MAY be able to make up a small team. But Belgium and Luxemburg (Why do we include this shit anyway, nobody in here comes from Luxemburg anyway) sure as hell wont.


Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 09:09:42 pm
No one ever said Bene(lux) was a thing, it was a thought, if enough players show up, there is no reason to group teams, as you said, Holland probably has enough players and they might not accept Belgian members, no one is going to force them.

Anyways, rules are not set yet, don't go crazy, alot has to be discussed yet. Forums and groups will be set up soon(ish) so we can start setting up teams.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 17, 2012, 09:11:52 pm
panos its wirtten crpg in the title. recruting native mercs for this isnt  what we want

who said about mercs??

I know some decent Greeks play Native like saint and I made a thread at tales forums asking from native player Greeks to come and help  :wink:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Son Of Odin on May 17, 2012, 09:14:53 pm
Would I be allowed into Scandinavian team? I come from a place high up in the North and it is part of Scandinavian Mountains but yes it is on Finland side :(.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on May 17, 2012, 09:32:44 pm
I bet there's too many good brits for me to try for the UK team  :cry:

Looking forward to the streaming though.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 09:51:16 pm
Nobody's going crazy, Exxc. :)
I was stating legit concerns, I think that's a bit far from going crazy. Maybe you should calm down with the accusations.

Anyway, quoting the other thread:
It wouldn't be fair to the other Scandinavian countries if they have to form teams with average players just because they don't have enough competetive players(sadly). We have enough players I'm sure but one thing I know for certain is that a Scandinavian team lets the good players from all countries form an able team with competent players. If Norway has to settle with players who aren't as competetive because there is not enough players for a team, they will most likely lose the mood to compete seriously(just my projection, I know I'd feel shitty about having to play with anyone not mentioned in that list(except for Ragni, I would not mind his absence at all)). No offense to Scandinavian players not mentioned, I probably just don't know you.

Since the tournament is supposed to be consisted of the best players from each country, it would only make sense if Scandinavia was one team. Norway and Denmark most likely doesn't have the option to form a team of only their best players, so naturally they should be merged with Sweden. It's up to us regardless. If we want to form a team there are no reasons that speak against it. But yes, you are right about one thing. Nobody knows how many players per team there are going to be.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on May 17, 2012, 10:00:00 pm
I bet the other scandinavian countries could fill the team for their own country, they just need to make the call louder.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 17, 2012, 10:05:50 pm
Nobody's going crazy, Exxc. :)
I was stating legit concerns, I think that's a bit far from going crazy. Maybe you should calm down with the accusations.

Anyway, quoting the other thread:
Since the tournament is supposed to be consisted of the best players from each country, it would only make sense if Scandinavia was one team. Norway and Denmark most likely doesn't have the option to form a team of only their best players, so naturally they should be merged with Sweden. It's up to us regardless. If we want to form a team there are no reasons that speak against it. But yes, you are right about one thing. Nobody knows how many players per team there are going to be.
You fail to grasp the concept of competitive sports/ tournaments and such. Using your logic, norwegians and danes should hook up with the swedes , cause the first two suck at hockey for example.

If all the different scandinavian countries will be able to form their own teams , there will be no need for a united Scandinavian team. Skill has nothing to do with this.

P.S. and no ,it's not exactly up to you.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on May 17, 2012, 10:06:09 pm
Neither are benelux and the balkans.

But Croatia is ;)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 17, 2012, 10:07:12 pm
Team Sweden will never win because for some reason every Swede is an egotripping douchebag. They will all try to stay out of the fight so they can be the hero of the match and in the end they all die seperately. True story!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Patoson on May 17, 2012, 10:10:00 pm
Dude, native players hate cRPG, and the opposite, what you say is irrelevant.

Shemaforash is a very good Native player (I played by his side in the clan Sarrdakin :)), and he seems to play cRPG now. So why the hate?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Gnjus on May 17, 2012, 10:12:12 pm
Since the tournament is supposed to be consisted of the best players from each country, it would only make sense if Scandinavia was one team.

Why ? This is not real life, the most important thing here is to participate, why only "best" players ? And who is to determine who the "best" players are ? If Denmark can field a squad of Danes on their own then they should be allowed to participate as Denmark no matter the names of the players, as long as they're all Danes, same goes for any other country. If they CAN field a squad and if they WANT to field it then they should be allowed to do so. Danes didn't even qualify for Euro 92 in football and we know how it ended up so please someone enlighten me with a description of "best" players here.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 10:18:18 pm
Amen to Gnjus.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Burr1ck on May 17, 2012, 10:21:28 pm
About streaming, there's a casting channel 'Warband Battlestream' (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,224252.0.html) on Twitch tv which streams competitive Mount & Blade: Warband matches e.g. http://www.twitch.tv/warband_battlestream/b/318087058 . Maybe it would good if the tournament adviser asks the streamers of Warband Battlestream to cast the Nditions cRPG Nations Cup? In the recordings from the channel, notice from spectator's point of view shows the team colored player names and health bars float above the character models, which is pretty darn neat and handy in distinguishing the difference between two teams, I reckon that it would be great to incorporate that into cRPG as an option (on/ off).

I'm up for team UK as long as the tournament is held during Summer.

Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 17, 2012, 10:27:08 pm
About streaming, there's a casting channel 'Warband Battlestream' (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,224252.0.html) on Twitch tv which streams competitive Mount & Blade: Warband matches e.g. http://www.twitch.tv/warband_battlestream/b/318087058 . Maybe it would good if the tournament adviser asks the streamers of Warband Battlestream to cast the Nditions cRPG Nations Cup? In the recordings from the channel, notice from spectator's point of view shows the team colored player names and health bars float above the character models, which is pretty darn neat and handy in distinguishing the difference between two teams, I reckon that it would be great to incorporate that into cRPG as an option (on/ off).

I'm up for team UK as long as the tournament is held during Summer.

Except that's coded for native, not crpg.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 10:27:18 pm
You fail to grasp the concept of competitive sports/ tournaments and such. Using your logic, norwegians and danes should hook up with the swedes , cause the first two suck at hockey for example.

If all the different scandinavian countries will be able to form their own teams , there will be no need for a united Scandinavian team. Skill has nothing to do with this.

P.S. and no ,it's not exactly up to you.

With the pretense of the thread about best players from every country(where this idea originated from)I safely assumed this was the aim of the tournament, to get the best players from every country and pit them against other countries.

Keep the attitude somewhere else, Ujin. I'm not here to argue but raise discussion about the tournament. If you're not willing to listen to anyone but yourself, maybe you should let someone who is organize instead.

However, I apologize for not being completely clear. I thought the tournament aimed to bring competetive players from same countries together, IMO that would be a lot more intense than just regular players.

P.S Yes it is up to us, since we are the ones who register the team members. If we lack enough players, which is something you can't control(i.e availability), there is no way for you to dictate or decide members for us. If the conditions support a Pan-Scandinavian team there is no reason to not go with it. But thanks for making your intentions and personal opinions obvious. It's clear there's strong opposition against such a team, for rather obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Tyr_ on May 17, 2012, 10:31:58 pm
Signing up for team Mercedes Germany!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Arathian on May 17, 2012, 10:37:36 pm
TREMBLE BEFORE TEAM HELLAS BARBARIANS.

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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Osiris on May 17, 2012, 10:38:13 pm
can we form Team BD to take on the winner :D Go BD!

either way im interested and english ^^  Templar BD Osiris/Arthur Wellesley ready to die :p
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Burr1ck on May 17, 2012, 10:44:13 pm
Except that's coded for native, not crpg.

Well, maybe it can be ported/ copy and paste from Native to cRPG?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 17, 2012, 10:48:22 pm
It's a lot harder than that and I don't think that sHocK would recode the mod for cRPG.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 17, 2012, 10:49:18 pm
With the pretense of the thread about best players from every country(where this idea originated from)I safely assumed this was the aim of the tournament, to get the best players from every country and pit them against other countries.

Keep the attitude somewhere else, Ujin. I'm not here to argue but raise discussion about the tournament. If you're not willing to listen to anyone but yourself, maybe you should let someone who is organize instead.

However, I apologize for not being completely clear. I thought the tournament aimed to bring competetive players from same countries together, IMO that would be a lot more intense than just regular players.

P.S Yes it is up to us, since we are the ones who register the team members. If we lack enough players, which is something you can't control(i.e availability), there is no way for you to dictate or decide members for us. If the conditions support a Pan-Scandinavian team there is no reason to not go with it. But thanks for making your intentions and personal opinions obvious. It's clear there's strong opposition against such a team, for rather obvious reasons.

Ughhhhh......You know what, you're absolutely right. Keep it up.

P.S. guys don't rush things yet, we will set up subforums for different teams later on!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 10:52:17 pm
HAHAHhhHHAHA

Naturally if we have enough players, there should be no need for a united Scandi-team. It would be awesome though!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bulzur on May 17, 2012, 11:23:32 pm
what is this, i don't even
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 17, 2012, 11:25:20 pm
If the conditions support a Pan-Scandinavian team there is no reason to not go with it. But thanks for making your intentions and personal opinions obvious. It's clear there's strong opposition against such a team, for rather obvious reasons.
Ahahahaha, oh god, the Swedes do it again!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 11:31:03 pm
You mean did? Don't you have grammar in Holland? Seems like a rarity to me.

Just import it from Sweden, everyone with half a brain does.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Vikings on May 17, 2012, 11:31:29 pm
i did not read all the comment's but the thing is crpg community is not only from europe , bu also from asia NA etc. so how are you guys arrange the servers for everything to be equal ? Like when i go to an NA server i get like 200 ping. If something like this really were to happen do we you plan to arrange the server and ping problem ?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Byrdi on May 17, 2012, 11:32:58 pm
HAHAHhhHHAHA

Naturally if we have enough players, there should be no need for a united Scandi-team. It would be awesome though!

I am quite sure that there are enough Danes. Also seem to remember quite a few decent Norwegians, they could easily make their own team.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 17, 2012, 11:33:09 pm
You mean did? Don't you have grammar in Holland? Seems like a rarity to me.

Just import it from Sweden, everyone with half a brain does.
Atleast there is one contest where no one has a chance against Sweden.

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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 17, 2012, 11:35:29 pm
If cav isnt allowed, I would suggest Munin and Wiltzu, Lerva(?) for shielders, me ( 8-)) Herkku, TuckMunck, Xant, Kastu for melee, and Spudro and Tommoo for ranged
Of course You, Lennu, Kerkko, Rhekimos, Pantheons etc are also good choices
E: I dont think the line-up will be a big problem cause not everyone is avaiable when the battles take place
No luv for me :/
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 17, 2012, 11:36:30 pm
This idea never came from the best player thread in general discussions. iv had this in mind way back before and this thread just made me talk about it with Ujin who thought it was a good idea.

Having a team with 2 nations together is intended for teams that cant gather enough players together to stand alone

Which is clearly not the case of sweden as i can see.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Osiris on May 17, 2012, 11:36:52 pm
Good luck getting lerva :P he is stuck doing military service
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 11:40:46 pm
i did not read all the comment's but the thing is crpg community is not only from europe , bu also from asia NA etc. so how are you guys arrange the servers for everything to be equal ? Like when i go to an NA server i get like 200 ping. If something like this really were to happen do we you plan to arrange the server and ping problem ?

We haven't really decided of this yet, but the initial thought was this would be held only on EU servers, so if NA wants to participate, wich I sure think/ and hope they will, they might have to play on EU servers. Then again this is not fixed yet, don't quote me on this.


hmmm, Teeth, cut the crap dawg  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 11:41:40 pm
Hahahahaha, well said Lactose.

Yeah, the cup is fine. I was not serious about the whole "best" crap. I just felt like messing.

@Teeth, Luke is my new hero.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Idzo on May 17, 2012, 11:41:58 pm
What about European Championship and Olympics? :?

Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 11:43:08 pm
What about European Championship and Olympics? :?

Not sure I get the point of your post :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 17, 2012, 11:44:13 pm
Not sure I get the point of your post :D

Start by learning how to read.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Vikings on May 17, 2012, 11:47:48 pm
So if i get it right this tournament thing is going to be played on official eu servers . And i'm sure turkish players will also participate to this tournament . and i wish a tournament like  this actually happens
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 17, 2012, 11:50:01 pm
So if i get it right this tournament thing is going to be played on official eu servers . And i'm sure turkish players will also participate to this tournament

Of course, Turkey can participate, if you guys have enough players, wich I'm sure you have.

 About the servers, we're not sure yet if it's going to be on official servers or on our server and other clan's ones, though we are in the process of maybe having an arrangement. Again, nothing is certain yet, things will probebly start enlighting themselves in the comming days.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Senni__Ti on May 17, 2012, 11:52:45 pm
Oo, team UK ftw :)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Jarlek on May 18, 2012, 01:01:11 am
Yay?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Pandemona on May 18, 2012, 01:06:34 am
Good luck with organization even i don't think it will be funny as in native, i support you. I know there's just an idea but you've to start think about rules like how many rounds will be played, which items we can use or we can't use, what kind of builds we can do or we can't do.

I suggest you to do this tournament with skip the fun characters so amount of levels will be equal. Also match dates are so important thing because of strategus. Are you going to do like knock-out or league? League would be awesome because i knock-out system when you do mistake you're out, in league it's different you've chance to improve your tactics and learn from your mistakes etc. Also if you start to do this tournament a ''Nations Cup'' section in forum would be fine, for announcements, team informations etc. Since there's in-game money in this mod there might be in-game rewards for this from organizators or from devs (if they support).

I just suggest something because i think this would make this module much more funny for the players who like playing competitive, also i got experience about this kind of tournaments.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 18, 2012, 01:19:41 am
I suggest you to do this tournament with skip the fun characters so amount of levels will be equal.

Equality can be found in native. This is a c==RPG== tournament.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 18, 2012, 01:27:01 am
So if i get it right this tournament thing is going to be played on official eu servers . And i'm sure turkish players will also participate to this tournament . and i wish a tournament like  this actually happens
Yes, just like all the other tournaments organized by EU players, it will be held in EU.
We need an iceland server for NA vs EU fights, lol
Although the two cav tournaments held in EU, NA won despite 160 - 200 latency

Aus and Asia players can't participate at all, haha. Absurd ping to eu

Equality can be found in native. This is a c==RPG== tournament.
It should not be a purposely imbalanced torunament, people should battle with STF characters. gear choice shouldn't matter though.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Pandemona on May 18, 2012, 01:28:59 am
Equality can be found in native. This is a c==RPG== tournament.

It's up to you anyway, i just shared my ideas. But if everybody plays with their main characters this tournament won't be fair because of the difference between level 35 and 30. I'm not sure if someone stops retiring and try to reach high level for tournament. I don't know what do you think about items but i hope you won't let using of masterwork items.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 02:15:49 am
Good luck with organization even i don't think it will be funny as in native, i support you. I know there's just an idea but you've to start think about rules like how many rounds will be played, which items we can use or we can't use, what kind of builds we can do or we can't do.

I suggest you to do this tournament with skip the fun characters so amount of levels will be equal. Also match dates are so important thing because of strategus. Are you going to do like knock-out or league? League would be awesome because i knock-out system when you do mistake you're out, in league it's different you've chance to improve your tactics and learn from your mistakes etc. Also if you start to do this tournament a ''Nations Cup'' section in forum would be fine, for announcements, team informations etc. Since there's in-game money in this mod there might be in-game rewards for this from organizators or from devs (if they support).

I just suggest something because i think this would make this module much more funny for the players who like playing competitive, also i got experience about this kind of tournaments.

Yeah, we thought about that, but I think all of us would like to play with their cRPG character, so until things change, we should stick to this idea, assuming some restrictions will be set.
Strategus will be taken into consideration, good point.
Rewards are a thing, wait and see.

And yes we are really aiming to provide more competition since this mod has been lacking on that part lately.

Mod is not d34d!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 18, 2012, 02:17:07 am
So if you're aiming to play with your own characters there's no point with the tourney, because competitive play in cRPG is a joke when it's not equal
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 18, 2012, 02:22:49 am
So if you're aiming to play with your own characters there's no point with the tourney, because competitive play in cRPG is a joke when it's not equal
What do you mean its not equal? Most people are minmaxers and will pick the best build and the best items, therefore the customisation does barely influence the equality.

In that case any type of e-gaming is a joke, because people have different mouses, mousepads, monitors, connections and so on. Not equal either.

If anything, the customization adds to the equality cause everyone has the possiblity to pick everything like they prefer it. Because everyone can do that its equal in the end.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 02:26:02 am
And ultimately skill and tactics get there way on the dancefloor.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 18, 2012, 02:28:48 am
This tourney is a joke, no offense to you guys.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 18, 2012, 02:31:00 am
Guys an NA punk dared to attack me..Unite and defend your dearest friend Panos...

http://www.c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming#!?page=battleroster&id=3190

i promise i ll start repaying Greece`s debt.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 02:31:47 am
This tourney is a joke, no offense to you guys.

Are you new to cRPG? If we wanted a mirror match we would play Native, cRPG is all about customisation, and believe me, Heirlooms don't win you games, oh nonono my boy.

Anyways, we can't please everyone, I hope you'll still apply for your country, or you might miss some of the fun  :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Pandemona on May 18, 2012, 02:34:18 am
And ultimately skill and tactics get there way on the dancefloor.

So please let the skills talk, not level 35 uber builds. If you want to make competitive organization no one should have advantage except their personal skills.

Customization is important i agree with that, but put level cap and everyone will start with ''same'' skill points.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 18, 2012, 02:35:28 am
So please let the skills talk, not level 35 uber builds. If you want to make competitive organization no one should have advantage except their personal skills.

Customization is important i agree with that, but put level cap and everyone will start with ''same'' skill points.

If they do that,then what`s the reason of grinding and playing plenty of hours to build YOUR own build??
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Pandemona on May 18, 2012, 02:38:58 am
If they do that,then what`s the reason of grinding and playing plenty of hours to build YOUR own build??


You say people trying to reach level 35 for play in future tournaments ?


Anyways, we can't please everyone, I hope you'll still apply for your country, or you might miss some of the fun  :D


I hope our country forms up a team, it would be funny.

Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 02:40:20 am
I hope our country forms up a team, it would be funny.

Well what country are you from fella?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Pandemona on May 18, 2012, 02:41:03 am
Well what country are you from fella?

Turkey.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Smoothrich on May 18, 2012, 02:41:07 am
I am announcing the entry of Team USA into the European NdItIOnS Clan Tourney Grand Cup.

I will draft my team and will post the roster whenever more details for this tournament are announced.  Please PM me for all USA Dream Team info, scheduling opportunities, or endorsements.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 02:44:02 am
I am announcing the entry of Team USA into the European NdItIOnS Clan Tourney Grand Cup.

I will draft my team and will post the roster whenever more details for this tournament are announced.  Please PM me for all USA Dream Team info, scheduling opportunities, or endorsements.


Tomorrow/today (friday) depending where you're at in this world, we'll give up more details on how teams are going to set up.
Love the enthousiasm though, but no rush  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 18, 2012, 02:44:51 am
So please let the skills talk, not level 35 uber builds. If you want to make competitive organization no one should have advantage except their personal skills.
There are people with 100 ping and there are people with 8, there are people with 100 euro gaming mouses and people with 5 euro mouses, there are people with 50 euro mousepads and people that use their table. How is all of that fair? cRPG is all about using your character to the fullest. The ability to grind is a personal skill aswell.

'Fairness' and 'skill' are both very relative concepts. If you think connection and input differences are acceptable and a handful more skillpoints which you gained through your own effort aren't then you don't really understand these concepts.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 18, 2012, 02:46:55 am
No, I'm not new to cRPG. I just don't see what the point is to have a tourney that doesn't promote equality but promotes grinding the play to have better gear. It's about as big as a joke the competitive scene is in WoW.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 18, 2012, 06:15:51 am
Maybe we should exclude MWs & high level chars? Too make this NC more skill-dependent. (STF & 40-50k for equipment).
& there will be no point to restrict my old friendchers cause without looms they are not so deadly.
On the over side: 35lvl char with full mw set just have additional 5 attribute & skill points & little boost in dmg & armor.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Vibe on May 18, 2012, 08:19:10 am
YUGOSLAVIA will win

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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Dalhi on May 18, 2012, 08:58:15 am
No, I'm not new to cRPG. I just don't see what the point is to have a tourney that doesn't promote equality but promotes grinding the play to have better gear. It's about as big as a joke the competitive scene is in WoW.

As I prefer to duel in Native (I don't play Native for a year so I don't duel at all  :mrgreen:) becouse of several reasons but if you are a crap you will not magicly became undefeated becouse you have loomed sword and/or high lvl character. For eample winners of last Fallen Tournament (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,22157.0.html) Grey Order had half of the team without single loom or just with a weapon wich at this stage of cRPG is nothing special as almost every clan member has over gen 1 character (generally talking, it's not necessarily true for everyone so please don't argue about that  :P). Why they won? Becouese they are fucking good at this game, some of them participated and won NC 2011 in Native.
Better gear does make a difference (especially for ranged classes) as it gives you some extra damage and survivability but if you know how to kill you will do that anyway. Of course some limitations to gear (mostly talking about the upper limit to armor weight) are needed. But after all playing on this module with STF characters using battlegroups for this kind of tournaments would be just... pointless.
For "competetive" gaming Native is much better, as ex-Native player I know something about that.
The point is that we have here quite big community that would profit from having from time to time oportunity to test themself and their friends in some sort of clan battles against others, becouse simply random battles are not for this. Strategus doesn't suit for this matter as well.
That is why I fully support this idea and we all should be thankfull for future organisators for coming up with this and hopefully future tournaments for clans and maybe individuals.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Gnjus on May 18, 2012, 09:02:58 am
TBH i expected STF's by default. What Salvador Dali said is pretty much correct but things like ping & hardware cannot be influenced so why not reducing imbalance factors down to a minimum instead of just giving up and saying "Life is unfair so screw it" ? You cannot buy someone a new mouse or cut down his ping but you can give him an equal start in terms of character build & equipment (well there should be XY amount cash and you spend it how you like i guess). As close to balance as you can get is still better then completely imbalanced, in my books at least. Yes, this is cRPG but you cannot say that it's fair to have level 33-35's fighting vs level 28-30's especially if half of the people just don't have their builds suitable for this kind of competition. Too many imbalance factors here to talk about skill, in real life whatever sport we're talking about field conditions are the same for both teams. Their input is not the same (not all players are the same height, weight, age, level of training, etc) but in the field conditions must be equal for all. Same with in-game: input factors might be different (ping, hardware, etc) but field stuff must be the same (balanced map, equal builds (with equal amount of skill & attribute points that is), gear costs (maybe not so important but still), etc). That's the way i see it, maybe I'm wrong tho.

Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Elmuri on May 18, 2012, 09:42:11 am
No luv for me :/
Please note etc  :wink: That didnt mean that the rest are crap, but that theres lots of other good players
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Dalhi on May 18, 2012, 10:03:38 am
Well, yeah I do agree that difference in skill/attribute points disstribution given from higher level and loomed gear is imbalancing factor but my point is that I would expect promoting teamplay from this kind of tournaments more then enlarging e-pen. It's up to organisators what they will decide about it, I am here share my point of view.
If one would want to play on some kind of competetive level then Native is designed to this matter, if you want to have fun playing with your friends and enjoy your build/gear you can do it here. Even with STF characters it will never be balnced around skill attribute distrubution wich matters even more then gear, of course pool of overall skills will be the same but still far from being balanced unless you will put strict limitations to how avarage build for each class should look like, but then it would be easier to run server in Native and play there.
If you don't want looms then: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24621.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24621.0.html), it might be perfect oportunity to test it out.
Striving for perfect balance sounds like utopia for me. Of course making it fair for everyone would cut lots of whining and excuses but I wouldn't mind playing it as it is now: with you gear and build. My voice probably doesn't matte much as I will never participate in any of further tournaments, but would be nice to leave some cRPG in this.


PS On a second thought I do believe that cRPG is better balanced class vise then Native is. So if you really would want to make it as equal as possible using some kind of character pre-sets (ready avaiable with STF option builds for each class with some special tag that would make them easy to distinguish from other characters) that might work. Of course it would require some work from dev team to make it possible.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Stabby_Dave on May 18, 2012, 11:27:58 am
Wow, there are more UK players than I thought.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: wanteds on May 18, 2012, 11:34:55 am
There are people with 100 ping and there are people with 8, there are people with 100 euro gaming mouses and people with 5 euro mouses, there are people with 50 euro mousepads and people that use their table. How is all of that fair? cRPG is all about using your character to the fullest. The ability to grind is a personal skill aswell.

'Fairness' and 'skill' are both very relative concepts. If you think connection and input differences are acceptable and a handful more skillpoints which you gained through your own effort aren't then you don't really understand these concepts.

I use my table  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 18, 2012, 12:03:12 pm
I would still like to commend the organizers for the initiative, we probably would never have a Nations Cup if not for them so let's not be petty. You may find my post ironic considering what I wrote previously but I was trolling, that's all(seriously, I basically said everyone was afraid a Scandinavian team would win without any opposition and called Ujin a conspirator :lol:).

So please, shut the fuck up if you don't like the idea, nobody's forcing you to enter. Regardless of equality, the cup is about to have fun. Sure, if one country(Russia) decides to be a min-maxing jerk while the other countries take advantage of the vast variety of items to customize their look in a way that represents their country(because that would be more epic, and way more fun). For example, Scandis would obviously go with viking theme(even though it has been ruined by kuyaks and what not), Turks would go shishkebab knights and the French will get low armour(so they can run away faster).

So thanks, Lactose and Exxc and everyone else involved in organizing. Best of luck and LOOKING FORWARD TO BEATING EACH OF YOUR CUNTRIES.
Also sorry Exxc for trying to annoy you, I just felt like it.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Chasey on May 18, 2012, 12:22:43 pm
Maybe put a poll up in this thread, for and against stf chars being used and decide it that way.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fartface on May 18, 2012, 12:49:26 pm
It wouldn´t feel like a CRPG tournament , if you cant use your own character ,looms , level etc .
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 01:10:48 pm
It wouldn´t feel like a CRPG tournament , if you cant use your own character ,looms , level etc .

Well I feel the same way.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Thovex on May 18, 2012, 01:14:18 pm
stfs!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 18, 2012, 02:00:45 pm
We can still get some feeback of community on stf or not. But it is not my will.

I want the teams to be composed by mains, those are the chars that everyone knows them under, i want the nations  to be represented by these guys. And some builds are only effective at higher levels. looms, high levels are all aprt of this game, people work up to this.

who cares if X is more skilled then Y. If Y is more battle effective then X, I'm taking Y!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on May 18, 2012, 02:11:06 pm
Oh my god WHO THE HELL CARES, this is supposed to be about having fun why are you so butthurt about making it equal (=BORING) for everyone. Just play what you have fun with, play whatever you want to play. Jesus its not like we are playing for money or something, chill out
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: BlackMilk on May 18, 2012, 02:17:41 pm
German Player reporting in!


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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Prinz_Karl on May 18, 2012, 02:37:02 pm
When will we decide which players of each nation will form a team that will compete in this competition when there's too many contestants?

Don't know how many players in Germany will participate for example anyone willing to prepare a list?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 02:57:18 pm
When will we decide which players of each nation will form a team that will compete in this competition when there's too many contestants?

Don't know how many players in Germany will participate for example anyone willing to prepare a list?

We're working on it, soon people will be able to apply.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Tuetensuppe on May 18, 2012, 03:19:10 pm
Oh my god WHO THE HELL CARES, this is supposed to be about having fun why are you so butthurt about making it equal (=BORING) for everyone. Just play what you have fun with, play whatever you want to play. Jesus its not like we are playing for money or something, chill out

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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Kajia on May 18, 2012, 03:40:32 pm
No, I'm not new to cRPG. I just don't see what the point is to have a tourney that doesn't promote equality but promotes grinding the play to have better gear. It's about as big as a joke the competitive scene is in WoW.
this.

i would say as this tournament is a joke you could just admit it is a joke and make it a good one. i personally wouldn't enter this contest because of the inequalities (besides i'm not a very good player), but everyone can do it for the lulz and i doubt someone could have anything against that.
i mean football is a big joke too. (national teams buy good players if they can afford it, crazy business) i'm not forced to watch it though and i never do, so i'm fine.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 18, 2012, 04:20:12 pm
debating over all this is for the moment useless. Of course you are free to not join if you believe this cup is a joke (wich is a joke in itself because we are still getting it up).

I believe we will have many people who will be happy to join and wont feel terribly left behind by the fact some of players have more looms then them.

We are spending our time and using our ressources to get it up...gee.... :rolleyes:

Meh, cant make everyone happy i guess
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Smoothrich on May 18, 2012, 05:22:26 pm
When I entered the EU cav tournament as a wide-eyed ambitious American, I had 0 polearm WPF, a destrier, only 5 riding, a non loomed red tunic, and my dear MW heavy lance, topped off with high NA ping.  I went against nothing but 7+ riding champion arabian pure cavalry builds, made for maximum lethality in cav combat and fighting on their homeland.

When I left the EU cav tournament, I left.. a champion.

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Looms don't make you good.  Levels don't make you good.  Ping doesn't make you good. 

The only thing that matters is the country you came from, and the man who you are.

Let this tournament decide who amongst us truly belong in the pantheon of the greats.

Let those who whine in this thread, stick to DTV and Rage Ball.

I will see all those who represent their countries in the tournament when the design is done, on my main character, with all of my sweet gear, and my pro skills.  What will you bring?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 05:50:06 pm
FUCK YEAH, BRING IT ON!
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Gnjus on May 18, 2012, 06:00:55 pm
I went against nothing but 7+ riding champion arabian pure cavalry builds, made for maximum lethality in cav combat and fighting on their homeland.


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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Mustikki on May 18, 2012, 08:08:48 pm
Hate U! I'm going to Finland next week to farm mansikka.

Say hello from me! :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Osiris on May 18, 2012, 08:21:13 pm
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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Mustikki on May 18, 2012, 09:52:00 pm
No luv for me :/

No respect for us oldies anymore.  :(
We could form a Team Old Fart Finns. You, me, Espu, Okin, Weren, Tuonela, Assarhaddon with some lone wolfs: Dugite, Juhanius, Sepi & Barca
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Stabby_Dave on May 18, 2012, 11:37:45 pm
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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 18, 2012, 11:57:29 pm
Yeah, you guys, just keep counting in stones and feet, and drive on the left side of the road, keeps you guys hip and young :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: BD_Baby_Wolf on May 19, 2012, 09:45:38 am
would be a bit hard for me to join this :/
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Cyber on May 19, 2012, 12:29:50 pm
Would probably never get Estonian or Baltic team together.

Also with all the e-peen fighting would be nice if someone would bother to organize a decent individual duelling tourney, like for example Ndition's European Duelling Tournament not some best of 1 or best of 3 coin toss. Atleast first to 7 wins, loser bracket etc.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Assarhaddon on May 19, 2012, 12:52:34 pm
No respect for us oldies anymore.  :(
We could form a Team Old Fart Finns. You, me, Espu, Okin, Weren, Tuonela, Assarhaddon with some lone wolfs: Dugite, Juhanius, Sepi & Barca

Damn, just learned 2 more old timers names and surprise, surprise, they are 'winns' aswell.
I swear 2 years ago, game servers must have been like fifty percent 'winns', sixty percent other nationalities.  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Eggnogg on May 19, 2012, 01:27:40 pm
Let's unravel our old tactics and ye olde English history! I'm well up for a tournament like this and I'd apply for UK.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on May 19, 2012, 01:59:32 pm
Maybe each team should elect a captain/manager from nominees. Then that person has ultimate say over the team (obviously after the tryouts or whatever process).
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Olwen on May 19, 2012, 03:19:25 pm
Would probably never get Estonian or Baltic team together.

Also with all the e-peen fighting would be nice if someone would bother to organize a decent individual duelling tourney, like for example Ndition's European Duelling Tournament not some best of 1 or best of 3 coin toss. Atleast first to 7 wins, loser bracket etc.

russia dominions count as part of russia !
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: SikiciOttoman on May 19, 2012, 04:52:15 pm
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,212884.0.html
I see,you talk about this but cRPG version.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 19, 2012, 05:04:36 pm
Finals of NC2012:
France vs Ukraine should take place sunday 20.05 at 19:00 BST
There would be 2 streaming channels(ENG & RUS).
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Vikings on May 19, 2012, 05:10:17 pm
France gonna win tobi & peter ftw :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Shemaforash on May 19, 2012, 05:26:46 pm
France gonna win tobi & peter ftw :D

considering the fact that tobi and peter left RNGD i highly doubt that, not exactly peaceful between tobi, peter and nubijuki. UA will probably win
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Vikings on May 19, 2012, 05:31:30 pm
France has the same team as last year or a new line up ? if it's the old players im sure they'll win
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Teeth on May 19, 2012, 05:35:58 pm
France gonna win tobi & peter ftw :D
Why are you talking about ballet in a rugby thread?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Olwen on May 19, 2012, 08:32:59 pm
peter may be good but he's a retard, worse than me

this guy's life relies so much on warband that each time you taunt him he goes emo crying ... i left FRA team and RNGD because i was bored of hearing him crying each time i laughed about him :s
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Razzer on May 19, 2012, 08:38:11 pm
peter may be good but he's a retard, worse than me

this guy's life relies so much on warband that each time you taunt him he goes emo crying ... i left FRA team and RNGD because i was bored of hearing him crying each time i laughed about him :s
Peter's not worse than you Olwen lol
Maybe as 1h inf but not as cav nor in manual blocking.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Osiris on May 19, 2012, 08:46:24 pm
i thought he meant more retarded rather than skill :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Olwen on May 19, 2012, 08:57:15 pm
english, try to understand before replying :s
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Fartface on May 19, 2012, 09:10:48 pm
Who is peter?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 19, 2012, 10:27:28 pm
Who is peter?

Peter? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWIBRhvUWk)
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 20, 2012, 07:01:56 pm
To become the captain of said team, it is very simple. Apply in the recruitment section of the nation you want to be in charge of (Link will be given shortly). If there is more then one application, the nation's players concerned will get to vote for their captain.
The elected captain can then, start forming his team by using the recruitment section of his nation.
So one potential captain could just ask to sign in his clanmates, friends & "brothers"(if you know what I mean  :rolleyes: ). The'll vote for him and then will leave the team   :twisted:
Don't know about other countries but in Russia each year there always good forum drama appears.
2010: 1 captain(Neud(RS\Gardarica) with majority of his clanmates(12 RS, 3 DRZ, 1 22nd)
2011: 2 captains(Neud & Yauzi(T)). Epic drama, 2 battles with 2 trained teams.  Yauzi won.
2012: long drama resulted in 1 captain(Gultar(IG)) being selected by all major clanleaders.

Sure this time there will be another awesome drama with many potential captains. Simple voting is not enough.

P.S. 1 hour till Native Nations Cup finals :) I'll post stream link here.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 20, 2012, 07:21:23 pm
So one potential captain could just ask to sign in his clanmates, friends & "brothers"(if you know what I mean  :rolleyes: ). The'll vote for him and then will leave the team   :twisted:
Don't know about other countries but in Russia each year there always good forum drama appears.
2010: 1 captain(Neud(RS\Gardarica) with majority of his clanmates(12 RS, 3 DRZ, 1 22nd)
2011: 2 captains(Neud & Yauzi(T)). Epic drama, 2 battles with 2 trained teams.  Yauzi won.
2012: long drama resulted in 1 captain(Gultar(IG)) being selected by all major clanleaders.

Sure this time there will be another awesome drama with many potential captains. Simple voting is not enough.

P.S. 1 hour till Native Nations Cup finals :) I'll post stream link here.

Also there is a limit of 4 clanmates per nation!!

if your elected captain, your not selecting more then 3 DRZ  8-)

anyway if there is any problem we will modify it. until then wait until we publish the full rules of the Cup  :wink:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Pandemona on May 20, 2012, 07:28:55 pm
Good luck with organization even i don't think it will be funny as in native, i support you. I know there's just an idea but you've to start think about rules like how many rounds will be played, which items we can use or we can't use, what kind of builds we can do or we can't do.

I suggest you to do this tournament with skip the fun characters so amount of levels will be equal. Also match dates are so important thing because of strategus. Are you going to do like knock-out or league? League would be awesome because i knock-out system when you do mistake you're out, in league it's different you've chance to improve your tactics and learn from your mistakes etc. Also if you start to do this tournament a ''Nations Cup'' section in forum would be fine, for announcements, team informations etc. Since there's in-game money in this mod there might be in-game rewards for this from organizators or from devs (if they support).

I just suggest something because i think this would make this module much more funny for the players who like playing competitive, also i got experience about this kind of tournaments.


There are so many important questions and lack of rules you should decide rules and type of tournament before taking applicants.

Also you need your own category in forum, please speak with forum administration for that without nations cup section this will be so hard for you, surely.


anyway if there is any problem we will modify it. until then wait until we publish the full rules of the Cup  :wink:


I noticed this post lately. But still this is so important part for you '' Also you need your own category in forum, please speak with forum administration for that without nations cup section this will be so hard for you, surely.''
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Gnjus on May 20, 2012, 07:30:14 pm
I couldnt insist more on the fact that we wish the captains of every nation not to select only their friends. Also there is a limit of 4 clanmates per nation!!

This might be a problem. For big nations it's a good thing (or is it ?) because they might have problems with setting the captain, too many people, too many "good players" from "big clans", etc but for smaller countries its a killer. Core of Bandits is Croatian and there are several other Cro players in the mod, just enough for a team of any size, no matter the numbers (taking into consideration that it will be summer and many will be on holidays, etc so we're counting on a system similar to native with more then enough substitutes) but if you make it 4 clanmates per Nation you're eliminating us before it even started and I'm certain it's the same with a few other countries as well.  We shouldn't have any problems with selecting our captain so we should be excused from such rules. If the big boys can't handle their egos & e-peens among themselves it's not our problem. :wink:
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Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 20, 2012, 07:58:07 pm
Streams:

http://www.own3d.tv/live/260310/NeuDs_Channel

http://it.twitch.tv/warband_battlestream
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 20, 2012, 08:02:26 pm
This might be a problem. For big nations it's a good thing (or is it ?) because they might have problems with setting the captain, too many people, too many "good players" from "big clans", etc but for smaller countries its a killer. Core of Bandits is Croatian and there are several other Cro players in the mod, just enough for a team of any size, no matter the numbers (taking into consideration that it will be summer and many will be on holidays, etc so we're counting on a system similar to native with more then enough substitutes) but if you make it 4 clanmates per Nation you're eliminating us before it even started and I'm certain it's the same with a few other countries as well.  We shouldn't have any problems with selecting our captain so we should be excused from such rules. If the big boys can't handle their egos & e-peens among themselves it's not our problem. :wink:
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exceptions can be granted by contacting the byzantium team.

I am already aware of the croatian exception  8-)

rules have been written, they are under current discussion! wait until they are all up before nitpicking  :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Byrdi on May 20, 2012, 10:45:35 pm
BTW I would also like to sign up for the Danish team whenever its up.

I will probably be checking back here, but I hope you'll have a date fixed soon, so we cant start assembling the teams :D
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 20, 2012, 10:49:48 pm
lol, well, we're actually setting down the last details for rules etc, so we don't miss a thing, Since this is quite a large scale event we don't want stuff to go wrong, especially since this is about nations etc, people tend to take it quite seriously :D But it takes some time.

Should be (don't make it a certainty though) good by tomorrow, Monday.

Peace.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Herkkutatti on May 20, 2012, 10:55:25 pm
Streams:

http://www.own3d.tv/live/260310/NeuDs_Channel

http://it.twitch.tv/warband_battlestream
Lol How come so shitty players / teams, could be in finals?
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 20, 2012, 10:57:19 pm
Hmmm Native is completely different dude, don't judge too quickly.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Segd on May 21, 2012, 12:07:32 am
Lol How come so shitty players / teams, could be in finals?
It was a miracle that we made to the finals.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: MrExxc on May 21, 2012, 08:33:36 pm
Waiting.

Not today I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on May 22, 2012, 07:40:17 am
I couldn't arse myself to read the whole thread, but if the Denmark forms a team I'll be willing to be a representative for them. It would be cool to know which danes are coming.

Thanks to the organizers for this great idea. If you need help with something send me a pm, and i will see what i can do.

PS: Make a new thread for signups once the idea is a little bit more "formed"
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Everkistus on May 22, 2012, 07:59:32 am
Same applies to me as well actually. I can't play with my ping, but I'm willing to organize and command the team Finland for this.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Miralay on May 22, 2012, 11:56:16 am
Same applies to me as well actually. I can't play with my ping, but I'm willing to organize and command the team Trollland for this.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Bjord on May 22, 2012, 12:01:32 pm
Swedes, please check our cobwebbed and abandoned language section. We need to know now who is interested in playing in the cup.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Tomas on May 22, 2012, 04:47:01 pm
Same applies to me as well actually. I can't play with my ping, but I'm willing to organize and command the team Finland for this.

Yet another same applies post :D

I could play but am sure there are much better UK players out there.  I'm happy to organise though, even if i don't end up playing.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Everkistus on May 22, 2012, 05:23:11 pm
Damnit if it becomes me vs Tomas vs Ramses commanding the teams. It would be quite lol.
Title: Re: Nditions C-RPG Nations Cup!
Post by: Ujin on May 22, 2012, 08:03:24 pm
Attention people !

You can soon start applying for your team's captaincy if you go here http://nditions.de/forum/index.php?topic=1760.0

If you want to apply as a regular player, you will be able to do it here http://nditions.de/forum/index.php?topic=1761.0


You can also check the newly created thread which contains most of the information you need and will be constantly updated http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,32338.0.html

+ Rules discussion thread. Join before it's too late ! =)   http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,32339.0.html